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Topic	What four monuments are on the United States Monuments Mt. Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER
NFUN 04/09/24 8:57:45 PM #36:	hylianknight3 posted... Like all symbols, obviously. No, there's a degree of abstraction there you don't usually get. You can have direct, declared symbolism: the Statue of Liberty was created to be a symbol, WYSIWYG. You can have it becoming a symbol because of its context: the Confederate Flag is a symbol because of associations of who used it and why and how. Here, the Liberty Bell is a symbol not because it was created to be one (it was just a bell), or even because of its use lending it power (I don't think its use as a way to bind that community has any relevance or thought in our minds at all), but because of the other people using it as a symbol who decided it was a symbol. It's like the Gadsden Flag now; most people don't think about its use in the revolution, they think about the libertarian dipshits who ruined it. It's not a symbol of what it's actually a symbol of, it's a symbol of the people that took it as a symbol. A symbol of what it was a symbol of. Its original birth is gone. It's just a symbol that's a symbol because it's a symbol now. It's a symbol of those civil rights groups, and if they used a cool-shaped rock it'd be just the same, and I'd be hesitant to go venerate that rock symbol symbol symbol. I'm so semantically satiated it's beyond belief --- List the ominous stern whisper from the delphic cave within: They enslave their children's children who make compromise with sin <cite>NFUN posted [p:979828221] in What four ... [t:80743272]...</cite> <quote>hylianknight3 posted... </cite><quote>Like all symbols, obviously.</quote>No, there's a degree of abstraction there you don't usually get. You can have direct, declared symbolism: the Statue of Liberty was created to be a symbol, WYSIWYG. You can have it becoming a symbol because of its context: the Confederate Flag is a symbol because of associations of who used it and why and how. Here, the Liberty Bell is a symbol not because it was created to be one (it was just a bell), or even because of its use lending it power (I don't think its use as a way to bind that community has any relevance or thought in our minds at all), but because of the other people using it as a symbol who decided it was a symbol. It's like the Gadsden Flag now; most people don't think about its use in the revolution, they think about the libertarian dipshits who ruined it. It's not a symbol of what it's actually a symbol of, it's a symbol of the people that took it as a symbol. A symbol of what it was a symbol of. Its original birth is gone. It's just a symbol that's a symbol because it's a symbol now. It's a symbol of those civil rights groups, and if they used a cool-shaped rock it'd be just the same, and I'd be hesitant to go venerate that rocksymbol symbol symbol. I'm so semantically satiated it's beyond belief --- List the ominous stern whisper from the delphic cave within:They enslave their children's children who make compromise with sin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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