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Daremo posted...

I think your premise here is flawed

The people who don't agree with you would say your premise is flawed for all the reason already described.

Daremo posted...

Neither is inherently malicious, but some people, for reasons ranging from depression, negative self esteem/self image, previous experience, other causes, will read a negative connotation into one, and less so the other.

Like I said, that applies to both of your examples.

Daremo posted...

This is not because they are 'looking to be offended', but simply because that's how their brains work; if something can be seen in a negative light, it will be. That is the context I'm operating in.

Yes it is. When you ignore context to find offense, you are looking for a reason to be offended. It only becomes a question is context being ignored intentionally or unintentionally.

Also no, that is no by default how the brain works as not everyone goes around doing what you described by doubling down.

It's one thing to misunderstand the context of someones words, it's another when someone is made aware the context was misunderstood, they double down to still be offended.

2 types of people who do the above are:
- malicious types who want to stir up controversy. These types find joy in causing discourse and prey on the delicate little flowers to get offended.
- The ones that are delicate little flowers. These types find every way possible to find a victim. They aren't malicious in nature, but definitely are quick to warp your words to be an attack and will even double down on it.

Both types throw context to the wind. But it is not how everyone's brain works like you claim.

Daremo posted...

The proposed adjustment isn't about not making delicate little flowers not feel bad

It most definitely is.

You are advocating for individuals to intentionally ignore context of a conversation because someone "might" warp someones words to be malicious. "So we should be mindful that some bad faith actors will manipulate those words to be malicious."

What you are saying literally, not metaphorically, but literally applies to all words, sentences..... speach. Hence why context is always key in a conversation. When you ignore context, ofc it can be perceived however you want to warp it to.

You can manipulate speech to be whatever your imagination wants it to be when you ignore context.