Current Events > No matter how much extra weight you have. YOU ARE NOT FAT.

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I know that I have a health topic for those interested in weight loss, and I welcome anyone who wishes to join. However, I feel its important to share a message for anyone who might need to hear it, and everyone on the board. Whether youre 50, 100, or 300 pounds overweight, please remember: You are not fat. You have fat. Fat does not define you; it is not your personality, nor is it an intrinsic part of who you are. Its simply something that you carry with you. If fat were truly a part of your identity, it would imply it is permanent, but thats not the case. You can shed fat, but you cant lose what truly makes you, you. So rest assured, you are not fat. And for those trying to lose keep going. Remember the only easy day was yesterday. But the goal is worth it.

What about Fats Domino?

Not me watching My 600 Pound Life when this topic was made.

Define it however you want, obese people are fat as fuck.

Kim_Seong-a posted...

What about Fats Domino?

Forget Fat Dom who goes over to Jersey and never comes back.

That's the dumbest thing I've read today that is probably meant in earnest.

Fat is a noun and an adjective, and probably a verb in old timey almanacs.

You can have fat, and you can be fat.

LonelyStoner posted...

Not me watching My 600 Pound Life when this topic was made.

Define it however you want, obese people are fat as fuck.

While some may choose to define people by their weight, I believe in looking beyond the surface. Each person carries their own story, struggles, and strengths, regardless of their size. Lets focus on encouragement and support, which can be far more transformative than labels. We all have the potential for change, and positive reinforcement is a powerful tool in that journey. While you carry the name lonely stoner on here. I am guessing you would not want everyone in the world from your boss to your family to think that and just that anytime they see you.

cjsdowg posted...

While some may choose to define people by their weight, I believe in looking beyond the surface. Each person carries their own story, struggles, and strengths, regardless of their size. Lets focus on encouragement and support, which can be far more transformative than labels. We all have the potential for change, and positive reinforcement is a powerful tool in that journey. While you carry the name lonely stoner on here. I am guessing you would not want everyone in the world from your boss to your family to think that and just that anytime they see you.

Youre trolling hard rn. And you havent done a lick of research into the psyche behind obesity..

cjsdowg posted...

I am guessing you would not want everyone in the world from your boss to your family to think that and just that anytime they see you.

And if they do, you're just going to lie and say they don't?

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Saying that carrying fat on them is not lying to them. Do you think bigger people don't know that they are bigger ? The harmful thing is when you say carrying that extra weight is not dangerous like some people do.

cjsdowg posted...

Saying that carrying fat on them is not lying to them. Do you think bigger people don't know that they are bigger ? The harmful thing is when you say carrying that extra weight is not dangerous like some people do.

Are you a big person?

LonelyStoner posted...

Are you a big person?

I could stand to lose about 20 pounds. But I don't know if I would say I am big. I wear a size large and 36 pants. And with all these people here taking about losing, I lost around 70 pounds. When I for sure was bigger person.

TC is making a valid point but it seems to have hurt some peoples feelings.

cjsdowg posted...

I could stand to lose about 20 pounds. But I don't know if I would say I am big. I wear a size large and 36 pants. And with all these people here taking about losing, I lost around 70 pounds. When I for sure was bigger person.

How tall are you?

Yeah I don't encourage fat culture. All you're doing is shortening your lifespan if you're severely obese.

It shouldn't be that hard for us to find a middle ground between an eating disorder.... and an eating disorder.

deoxxys posted...

Yeah I don't encourage fat culture. All you're doing is shortening your lifespan if you're severely obese.

It shouldn't be that hard for us to find a middle ground between an eating disorder.... and an eating disorder.

Its usually depression that causes this massive weight gain. The people most guilty of it will beat you over the head with the thyroid argument, but we all know what most of them mean.

cjsdowg posted...

If fat were truly a part of your identity, it would imply it is permanent,

I don't see why that necessarily implies permanence. Adjectives that apply to you today don't necessarily apply tomorrow.

No, I'm pretty damned sure that I'm a straight-up fat sack of crap.

SpawnShadow posted...

No, I'm pretty damned sure that I'm a straight-up fat sack of crap.

Which post are you replying to?

LonelyStoner posted...

Which post are you replying to?

The first one.

SpawnShadow posted...

The first one.

Ah , gotcha.

cjsdowg posted...

Fat does not define you; it is not your personality, nor is it an intrinsic part of who you are.

You can shed fat, but you cant lose what truly makes you, you.

I don't necessarily agree with this.

I got fat as a child because I used binge eating to cope with a series of traumatic experiences. This poisoned me on a foundational level and kept me from every developing a personality outside of being the funny, self-deprecating fat guy, or someone with poor impulse control and zero discipline.

I lost 150+ lbs and once it started becoming a regular occurrence for me not to be the heaviest person in every room I walked into, I had an identity crisis of sorts. I started losing weight and realized that there was nothing else about me, nothing serious at my core.

All of my interests, friends, and perception of myself were heavily entangled with me being fat or with the C-PTSD that made and kept me fat. I've changed nearly everything about me, diet, hobbies, mindset, and seriously everything. I'm a completely different person because of the physical and mental process of losing weight in a healthy, sustainable way.

The more I become my own person on my own terms and get to actually grow in healthy and positive ways, the more obvious it is that I was, in every sense, a big fat guy and very little else.

I can only speak of my own experience though, and I know that it is not universal. Everyone should be able to define themselves how they want.

this is toxic positivity and has the opposite of the intended effect. if you are overweight, you are fat and more likely than not, it is something that you did to yourself. face that and either do or don't do something about it

don't twist words and terminology around to make yourself feel better, you are not made out of glass

what about boogie?

TheLiarParadox posted...

I don't necessarily agree with this.

I got fat as a child because I used binge eating to cope with a series of traumatic experiences. This poisoned me on a foundational level and kept me from every developing a personality outside of being the funny, self-deprecating fat guy, or someone with poor impulse control and zero discipline.

I lost 150+ lbs and once it started becoming a regular occurrence for me not to be the heaviest person in every room I walked into, I had an identity crisis of sorts. I started losing weight and realized that there was nothing else about me, nothing serious at my core.

All of my interests, friends, and perception of myself were heavily entangled with me being fat or with the C-PTSD that made and kept me fat. I've changed nearly everything about me, diet, hobbies, mindset, and seriously everything. I'm a completely different person because of the physical and mental process of losing weight in a healthy, sustainable way.

The more I become my own person on my own terms and get to actually grow in healthy and positive ways, the more obvious it is that I was, in every sense, a big fat guy and very little else.

I can only speak of my own experience though, and I know that it is not universal. Everyone should be able to define themselves how they want.

For me it seems like when people see themselves as just the fat guy it makes he harder to lose weight. It makes it harder to do so many things because they connect with that idea of being the fat guy. ( I got have lost some pounds) not on your level so I am also speaking for my journey and not trying to take thing away from yours . It is odd that we see the same thing and come out with different points of view. (not suggesting you are wrong in any way).

Goderator posted...

what about boogie?

Boogie is a ranging asshole who is a wort on society, why would anyone just talk about his weight when you can talk about how horrible of a person he is .

You can be many things.
Including overweight, or obese.
You can be an amazing person and still be fat.
So I agree. A persons weight doesn't define them.

From personal experience I know being fat in the US does define you

Doe posted...

From personal experience I know being fat in the US does define you

I believe labeling individuals as fat is a societal issue that diminishes their value. Such labels tend to stick in peoples minds, both as the first impression and the lasting one, because we, as a society, have allowed it. Those who carry extra weight often fall victim to this mindset, which can erode self-esteem and lead to discouragement. It creates a self-fulfilling prophecy where setbacks are felt more deeply because theyre seen not as temporary challenges but as reflections of identity.

However, if we shift our perspective and stop defining people by their weight, we can make a more supportive environment for weight loss. In this very topic, We have seen people reply with rudeness, bluntness, ect about this topic. Some people even suggesting I am surgar coating things. But where in my original message did I imply that individuals carrying extra weight are should not change, or blame anyone else.

Consider how we treat other health conditions not related to weight; the response is usually more compassionate. Weve evolved in our understanding and treatment of conditions like AIDS; its time we do the same with weight-related issues.

This idea isnt about acceptance of an unhealthy state; its about recognizing that excess weight is a condition, not a character flaw. Its something a person carries, not who they are.

I'm just saying the status quo in the US believed by a supermajority of people (even if they don't realize it explicitly) is that fatness is a character flaw. Even fat people believe it from internalizing the culture. And it's also often considered acceptable to be rude about fat people

cjsdowg posted...

This idea isnt about acceptance of an unhealthy state; its about recognizing that excess weight is a condition, not a character flaw. Its something a person carries, not who they are.

Nobody cares, bro.

Carrying extra weight and fat mean the same thing. Anyone with a brain knows what youre saying. Youre not doing anything kind here. Its patronizing more than anything.

People are fat. But its important to know what you are today to change it for the future.

cjsdowg posted...

I know that I have a health topic for those interested in weight loss, and I welcome anyone who wishes to join. However, I feel its important to share a message for anyone who might need to hear it, and everyone on the board. Whether youre 50, 100, or 300 pounds overweight, please remember: You are not fat. You have fat. Fat does not define you; it is not your personality, nor is it an intrinsic part of who you are. Its simply something that you carry with you. If fat were truly a part of your identity, it would imply it is permanent, but thats not the case. You can shed fat, but you cant lose what truly makes you, you. So rest assured, you are not fat. And for those trying to lose keep going. Remember the only easy day was yesterday. But the goal is worth it.

Right, you aren't fat if you have fat. You're overweight if you have fat.

"Your best thinking got you here."

I understand your point but lets not sugar coat anything, pardon the pun.

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I thought it was clear, I meant carrying more then normal, however youve highlighted an important point: we all have fat. And so saying something that EVERYONE has is now what we call them is odd. Its unreasonable to let a single characteristic define a person entirely. We dont typically define people by their ailments; for instance, someone with an infection isnt identified by the disease. They are not the infection; they have an infection. The same principle applies to weight. You don't say someone with the clap is clap.

The push back I have gotten here by just saying we should not call people fat underscores exactly why such labels are problematic. Not using derogatory terms doesnt mean ignoring the issue on the contrary, its about addressing it without stigmatization. Focusing on the individual rather than the weight fosters a more supportive environment for change. After all, making a persons weight the core of their identity only hinders progress and can be detrimental to their self-improvement efforts.

People want to call others fat so much. I didn't expect that .

No matter how much extra weight you have. YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN. You have American citizenship. American citizenship does not define you; it is not your personality, nor is it an intrinsic part of who you are. Its simply something that you carry with you. If American citizenship were truly a part of your identity, it would imply it is permanent, but thats not the case. You can renounce a citizenship, but you cant renounce what truly makes you, you. So rest assured, you are not American.

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I said that they are carrying more weight. I don't understand why people would assume that I am trying to down play that .

This topic is obviously a put-on, but I think that was still well said, hypno.

Sounds like wat a fatty would say tc

It's amazing how many people are getting butthurt at the mere suggestion that we not call people insulting and derogatory terms.

superben posted...

Sounds like wat a fatty would say tc

There was a time when I carried extra weight, and its something Im still addressing. Recognizing that labeling myself as the fat guy was detrimental to my weight loss journey is a step Ive taken without hesitation. I was knocking on the door of 300 pounds an I am not even 6' Yet, I refuse to be defined by that weight. It was not a reflection of my identity or character; it was merely a circumstance. The normalization of calling someone fat is a form of tacitly endorsing the mistreatment that often follows. Expressing concern for someones health while simultaneously labeling them fat is contradictory. We dont apply such harsh labels to other challenges people face. For instance, we wouldnt incessantly call someone struggling academically stupid because we understand that with the right support, they can improve.

Note I had those issues too, and those names are not fun either. The same principle applies to weight. When someone is overweight, its often the first thing noticed, overshadowing all else. It's like someone brought up Boogie. Boogie is a horrible person, and he makes the world worse with every breath he takes. Wouldn't it be better to focus on how horrible he is as a human being, rather than taking potshots at his weight, which doesn't matter at all?

TheOtherMike posted...

It's amazing how many people are getting butthurt at the mere suggestion that we not call people insulting and derogatory terms.

Which posts?

TheOtherMike posted...

It's amazing how many people are getting butthurt at the mere suggestion that we not call people insulting and derogatory terms.

It's fine to shame fat shaming (calling someone fat won't make them decide to show you up and hit the gym), but what OP is trying to do is redesign the definition of an adjective that has done its job effectively and accurately for god knows how long. OP, your logic need some reworking, but I will give you points in that your heart is in the right place.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go for a run; this fat won't trim itself.

Thats not how words work.

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This has always bothered me, and it's getting worse, and it's bothering me more.

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When has calling someone fat not been insult? Stores do not have the fat section for a reason. If you liked someone I am guessing you would not call them fat or tell them to watch out you are kind of getting fat.

cjsdowg posted...

When has calling someone fat not been insult?

There are cases, but aside from that: Where did he say otherwise?

nah, there's definitely some fatties out there.