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Cemith posted...

Unfortunately the people that love bombs will kill everyone, even the ones that aren't in the same building.

You can not reason with people that willingly burn their hands on the stove.

You can't keep infantilizing people like this if you want to convince them. I'm not even sure what your goal is here. Do you want to dunk on them and call them children? Or do you want to change their minds? Pick one and go with it.

I'm trying to get you to understand that most of the people who are reluctant aren't "willingly burning their hand on the stove", they think that their hand will be forced on the stove regardless of what they do. They tend to think decisions are made in the backrooms of power and aren't up for debate anyway. That it's downhill either way and that people are just yelling at them to choose their version of downhill that ends up in the same place. I know you don't think that, but understand that they genuinely genuinely do, it's not a bit, it's not something they do to spite you, they're not secret Republicans/fascists. People on all ends of the political spectrum reach that conclusion.

That's why fear and harm reduction messages don't work on them. They've already deadened themselves/been deadened to any possibility of anything better. They've given up on agency. The only thing that would change that is getting involved in a project to change that fundamental reality.