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TopicFluent Japanese speakers who have also watched Shogun, a question (no spoilers)
DoGCyN
05/06/24 10:55:52 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
they are speaking modern.

also, to be clear, changing a few words isn't "old english"

this is old english:

Hwt. We Gardena in geardagum,
eodcyninga, rym gefrunon,
hu a elingas ellen fremedon.
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaena reatum,
monegum mgum, meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas. Syan rest wear
feasceaft funden, he s frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum, weormyndum ah,
ot him ghwylc ara ymbsittendra
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan. t ws god cyning.

Then there is middle english:

Whan that Aprille with his shoures soote,
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licur
Of which vert engendred is the flour;
Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the Ram his halfe cours y-ronne,
And smale foweles maken melodye,
That slepen al the nyght with open ye,
So priketh hem Natre in hir corages,
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages,

then there is just changing a few words, like thou and thine, and that's just modern english with a few old words.

Did not know that. Thanks!

Robot2600 posted...
it's not historically-accurate speech of the time, even if they use some phrases from the time period and strange old-timey ways of says some things.

it'd be like a fantasy show where everyone said "Good day!" instead of "Hello!" And instead of "bank" we say "Coinage vault" or w/e. that doesn't mean im speaking a new language. speaking in a british accent is not speaking in a new language.

I see. So if I'm putting everything together, them being longwinded and formal (post 2) makes it sound a bit more old-timey, but it actually isnt. They're using Japanese words, just in a different way, vs using what would be actual "old-Japanese".

Appreciate it yall!

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