LogFAQs > #980399206

What I think would help is attempting to make the case for everyone still alive to be scum. Logistically, what would it take? There's only 9 of us left so without further ado:

.

1. Ben

For Ben to be scum he would have to be a Scum neighborizer. No one can refuse the fact that he is a neighborizer, it has been independently confirmed, but neighborizers by definition are not confirmed to be town, so he could be scum. He has also never been Jailed so he could have submitted any one of the night kills since night 1. He also said that the neighborizing action was a day action, so he could potentially be responsible for non killing night actions as well, such as vote suppression or redirection. I know that feels like a lot, but the two scum roles we've seen so far have both been completely stacked so it's feasible that it's just a small (4?) scum team that all have pretty busted roles.

It's also worth reminding that when it was time to full claim he attempted to lie about his claim, multiple times. Not only did he tell his neighbors to not say anything when he claimed vanilla, but he put them through some weird exercise of reciting something so he could "be bulletproof". Something he first said was true and then walked back after it justifiably made him suspicious. The justification for "tricking them into thinking he was bulletproof" still doesn't make sense.

.

2. Blade

For blade to be scum then Lopen will have had to be doctor with Blade claiming Lopen's role. In which case all the claimed doc saves will have been fake. Now that Kirby's night 5 target flipped vanilla that would mean that Blade only pretended to save IGCD and scum NK'd instead. Now scum might have been assuming ctes (if town) was going to bet his life on IGCD's death so the logic might have been to fake the doc save combined with a no kill to both "confirm" Blade is actually doctor and not even lose a night kill thanks to Ctes' bet.

.

3. Chang

Chang is definitely a lawyer, so he would have to be a scum lawyer. The last time a scum lawyer was used it was used with the caveat that it could only be used to take out a scummate. Scum put wallz in the dirt day 2 so for him to be scum it would have to have been a bus. Now that's not so much of a reach on account of Kirby JK'd wallz night 1, so it would have been as good a time as any to use it. Perhaps the best time even since the beginning of day 2 was met with chang getting a lot of suspicious for thinking Knightz was town. So in a scum Chang scenario, Chang decided NOT to lawyer Knightz day 1, because Knightz' role was too strong and was worth trying to save, but once it was clear wallz was likely going to be the lynch without or without his case there was no reason not to commit do it day 2. Chang has also never been jailed so there is nothing that prevents him from having submitted a kill or some other night action.

.

4. Ctes

Ah yes, Starburns the "bookie". He has demonstrated an ability to be unable to vote, but thanks to bad (or unlucky?) choices he has failed to provide any proof that the bets he is claiming even exist. I hate the flavor/role combination, I hate the terrible way he dragged out his claim yesterday, I hate that he seemed to think scum would somehow benefit from knowing about a bookie existing as he described when it legitimately seems to be the opposite. Not only would scum have to continue to potentially play around 2 saving roles in Kirby/Blade but now they would also have to consider who ctes thinks will die to try and prevent him from getting something good. There was no reason to painstakingly resist claiming this role if it's real. But in this scenario ctes is scum so the bookie role likely doesn't exist. Just ctes, likely Evil troy, having some kind of no vote/no voice condition that fights Evil Troy perfectly.

.

5. FD

I'm not scum. I'm not and I know I'm not. I know the rest of you lot don't have access to my PMs so feel free to make the case against me, but I assure you it's wrong. It would not only involve regular pierce being scum with the evil study group members, but also a lot of questionable scum team decisions that I would never sign off in. Lopen's vanishing? Not in a million years. Lopen was instrumental to my victory in Valentine's mafia and I was very disappointed/worried when he got eliminated that game. If I am on a team that has a day kidnap/janitor/whatever then it is being used on Red or Blade or Death, full stop. Death and Red were both town, so the only way I'm scum is with Blade and leaving the other two alive was a tactic to justify Blade not being targeted at night. I don't know who signs off on the Lopen vanishing and the night kills that we've seen, but it sure as hell isn't me.

.

6. IGCD

IGCD's sidequest was either a true thing that occurred or it was an elaborate ruse. In either case him being scum requires him to actually have access to a dayvig shot, which would be a rarity for scum. If I were thinking more clearly yesterday I would have asked IGCD to "##Kill" somebody just to prove the he didn't already have the shot, in which case the 3x hammer thing could potentially be fluff he added on to have an excuse not to make a decision for 3-5 days. The other thing that would have to be true is that IGCD would have to have gambited on town not having it's own regular ass day vig to shoot him as soon as he claimed. Now ctes (if truthful) may have access to a dayvig shot, but only after succeeding on a very unlikely bet with his own life at stake. I believe he also claimed his shot and his hammer conditions before Lopen disappeared so it's not like Lopen could have been day vig which allowed him the safety of a claim. So yeah, IGCD scum requires all of that and it also requires either a no kill last night or a kill on death.