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gamepimp12 posted...

thats the difference between race, nationality and culture.

I know, but I'm saying there's a good number of the population that make the culture a part of their identity. which I'm cool with, since it makes blackness have some kind of "tangibility", in some ways.

gamepimp12 posted...

its not gate keeping because Im not saying youre not apart of the culture or that you arent black or anything like that. Im saying that song is hard to miss without being in your own world and youve clearly missed somethings culturally if thats the case.. You cant gate keep culture cause that goes in the face of what culture is, you can push out disingenuous people, but actually gate keeping kills culture.

I'm saying it's gatekeeping to say that you're not attached to the culture because you're not aware of one of her songs, like you said earlier. I've already given a number of reasons why people might miss out on popular songs, and they have nothing to do with missing out on culture/not being current.

and again, it's arbitrary, since there's so much more to the culture than music (obviously music is a big part), but to use knowledge about her music as a metric makes no sense for reasons already posted.

gamepimp12 posted...

uhhhh its one of the driving force behind her album beating thriller, its won Grammys and is already considered critically one of the best RnB songs in 25 years and broke multiple the charts records for a RnB song.

also what song would you think is better

I wasn't asking based on the quality of the song (it's a good song), but how it's measured to be the biggest r&b song in 5 years.

I ask because I googled it, and other songs came up, so I was wondering how you came to that conclusion.

as for r&b albums, I haven't really listened through one since A Seat at the Table, so I couldn't tell you which song from the past five years is my favorite. Cranes in the Sky is my favorite from the album, but I think it has lower numbers than Snooze.

I also liked the one HER album, but I dunno when it came out.

gamepimp12 posted...

Shes got 10 years as an artist, 3 popular and critically acclaimed albums and song writing credits for Rihanna among others.

Its 100% fair to call her THE generational RnB act, either that or second to Beyonce

when I say "generational" talent, I mean having appeal outside of r&b/hip-hop.

like we've seen with Usher, Beyonce, Rihanna, etc.