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Sayoria posted...

The thing is, this can transfer over to these same beliefs that 'all black people are bad', 'all trans people are bad', 'all mexicans are bad'.... etc. They just fail to see how the same people they attack face this kind of shit day in and day out, and these people try to still be upstanding citizens and are still attacked for being who they are.

To me, the whole situation is the blind leading the blind here. They want to be seen as 'not all men are bad, I am a nice guy' but refuse to give those royalties to other groups because they feel they deserve it and they are in the right.

America has been strongly getting more publicly angry and defensive. It's incredibly rare to find someone who will agree it was 'their bad' when they were at fault. And the media has been feeding these people this narrative for decades. "You lost your job because THAT GUY FROM COLOMBIA stole it!" ...... not because "You may have an anger problem" or "Saying sexualizing comments to people is bad" .....

Like, I dunno. I am trans. I am pretty much ace. I cannot relate to these guys but it's always been absolutely baffling how they can't just act fucking normal around women. Oh, and on that note, accept that the 'friend zone' is bullshit, and many women would love to settle down with a guy they got to knew first. I think randomly starting dates with people you never met is absolutely the wildest thing and it definitely makes women more on edge and in danger, so women's retaliation against men overall when it comes to dating, likely stem from this.

Problem number 1 there is the false assumption that all of them also think trans are bad, or whatever you insert.

Like what you are saying in your first paragraph works both ways. Too many fall into this trap when asking the question to how to win a base over. If your genuine intention is to win them over.... accusing them of believing something that they genuinely don't isn't winning them over.

For the same reason one shouldnt point to one black person, and then paint all of us as bad. Same applies to many other groups such as immigrants, white people, etc etc. Or in this case, young men.

Pointing at actual bigoted young men doesn't mean it's correct to assume all young men who voted Trump in 2024 think immigrants are bad, or hate women, or any other assumed belief you think they voted for Trump for. Especially when many people voted for Trump for things like the economy, and for example don't know what a tarrif is.

TLDR, So to answer this topic question, start with tackling this question as if all young men aren't a monolith. So why we lost some this election is not a monolith reason. Assuming all of them hate immigrants or LGBT or whatever you want to insert your assumptions..... aren't helping if you genuinely want to win them back.