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Topic	The Last Jedi had good ideas SPOILERS
SAlYAN 05/15/25 10:04:38 AM #29:	Southernfatman posted... The new trilogy didn't necessarily have to be about the Skywalker family. Sure, they're still around and are important, but that didn't mean Rey had to be one. I'm more so against the idea because it's kind of a tired trope at this point. They already did the secret family member thing in the OT twice and as I said earlier, SW has a problem with overly connecting everything like Anakin making C3PO and things like that. "Star Wars" doesn't have that problem. The mainline movies do. Because the mainline, numbered movies are a giant, connected narrative about a particular family and the friends/allies of that family. Love it or hate it, that's just how they are. It's also why forcibly trying to pivot away from being that at the 11th hour feels so jarring. One of the biggest problems with Episode 8 is that it's a Star Wars movie that is ashamed to be a Star Wars movie, and this is a prime example. There are entire friggin ENCYCLOPEDIAS of stories about "nobody" characters in Star Wars. This idea that Star Wars is somehow obsessed with the idea that "only a Skywalker can be the hero" is ridiculous. We have a solid dozen TV series, multiple movies, and hundreds of books about non-skywalker heroes, many of whom accomplish things just as grand, if not greater, than the Skywalkers. There's nothing wrong with saying "the mainline numbered saga should be about the Skywalkers." Becauze that's narratively cohesive. It certainly doesn't help matters that Kylo Ren was clearly, and very obviously, a much better choice for protagonist. He was the character with the most interesting arc, he was the one with the most growth, he was the one with a clear character motivation, with the most obstacles to overcome, and his dynamic of "inherently good person trying to deny their better nature to live up to a dark legacy" is an angle for a protagonist that's pretty unique for the franchise. And he was a Skywalker. Disney just didn't have it in them to make the obviously-more-interesting protagonist the protagonist. --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter. <cite>SAlYAN posted [p:985074468] in The Last J... [t:80982855]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>The new trilogy didn't necessarily have to be about the Skywalker family. Sure, they're still around and are important, but that didn't mean Rey had to be one. I'm more so against the idea because it's kind of a tired trope at this point. They already did the secret family member thing in the OT twice and as I said earlier, SW has a problem with overly connecting everything like Anakin making C3PO and things like that.</quote>"Star Wars" doesn't have that problem. The mainline movies do. Because the mainline, numbered movies are a giant, connected narrative about a particular family and the friends/allies of that family.Love it or hate it, that's just how they are. It's also why forcibly trying to pivot away from being that at the 11th hour feels so jarring. One of the biggest problems with Episode 8 is that it's a Star Wars movie that is ashamed to be a Star Wars movie, and this is a prime example.There are entire friggin ENCYCLOPEDIAS of stories about "nobody" characters in Star Wars. This idea that Star Wars is somehow obsessed with the idea that "only a Skywalker can be the hero" is ridiculous. We have a solid dozen TV series, multiple movies, and hundreds of books about non-skywalker heroes, many of whom accomplish things just as grand, if not greater, than the Skywalkers. There's nothing wrong with saying "the mainline numbered saga should be about the Skywalkers." Becauze that's narratively cohesive.It certainly doesn't help matters that Kylo Ren was clearly, and very obviously, a much better choice for protagonist. He was the character with the most interesting arc, he was the one with the most growth, he was the one with a clear character motivation, with the most obstacles to overcome, and his dynamic of "inherently good person trying to deny their better nature to live up to a dark legacy" is an angle for a protagonist that's pretty unique for the franchise. And he was a Skywalker. Disney just didn't have it in them to make the obviously-more-interesting protagonist the protagonist. --- Doesn't take a lot of brains to be a good fighter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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