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cjsdowg
05/23/17 2:21:09 AM
#102:


shnangyboos posted...
Could they not have made a black comic without the "the evil police are killing black people" angle?


They should have black people singing and dance like in the Song of the South.
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shnangyboos
05/23/17 5:34:01 AM
#103:


I feel like there's some room in between those two things that they could have aimed for.
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MangaFan462
05/23/17 8:44:11 AM
#104:


Why didn't more black people buy these comics?
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SSJGrimReaper
05/23/17 9:00:06 AM
#105:


MangaFan462 posted...
Why didn't more black people buy these comics?

probably because it wasn't advertised at all, nobody really knew it existed.

Marvel has just been throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks these days
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cjsdowg
05/23/17 10:16:39 AM
#106:


shnangyboos posted...
I feel like there's some room in between those two things that they could have aimed for.


The X-men were a minority group targeted by killer robot becuase how they were and people said hey this is ok. But yet what the crew was dealing was just too much. So I guess when you have oppressed minorities just make sure most of them are white, if there black people than there happen to be an issue.
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dave_is_slick
05/23/17 11:33:11 AM
#107:


cjsdowg posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I feel like there's some room in between those two things that they could have aimed for.


The X-men were a minority group targeted by killer robot becuase how they were and people said hey this is ok. But yet what the crew was dealing was just too much. So I guess when you have oppressed minorities just make sure most of them are white, if there black people than there happen to be an issue.

You're delusional, seek professional help.
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cjsdowg
05/23/17 11:36:28 AM
#108:


dave_is_slick posted...

You're delusional, seek professional help.


So no retort, literally the Crew is facing just what the X-Men faced, yet here it is an issue .
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MrPeppers
05/23/17 11:38:00 AM
#109:


cjsdowg posted...

The X-men were a minority group targeted by killer robot becuase how they were and people said hey this is ok. But yet what the crew was dealing was just too much. So I guess when you have oppressed minorities just make sure most of them are white, if there black people than there happen to be an issue.


Wow, it's almost as if nuance, subtlety, and tact sell better than a ham-fisted, borderline insulting approach to the same subject matter.
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The Admiral
05/23/17 11:38:36 AM
#110:


cjsdowg posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I feel like there's some room in between those two things that they could have aimed for.


The X-men were a minority group targeted by killer robot becuase how they were and people said hey this is ok. But yet what the crew was dealing was just too much. So I guess when you have oppressed minorities just make sure most of them are white, if there black people than there happen to be an issue.


So did you buy this comic or not?
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cjsdowg
05/23/17 11:40:18 AM
#111:


MrPeppers posted...

Wow, it's almost as if nuance, subtlety, and tact sell better than a ham-fisted, borderline insulting approach to the same subject matter.


There only difference are the race of the people targeted.

You have the government going have oppressed groups.
You have then using robots to police the people.
You have these robot police going over broad.
You have the targeted groups stand up.
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FaultyGourry
05/23/17 11:44:38 AM
#112:


cjsdowg posted...
shnangyboos posted...
I feel like there's some room in between those two things that they could have aimed for.


The X-men were a minority group targeted by killer robot becuase how they were and people said hey this is ok. But yet what the crew was dealing was just too much. So I guess when you have oppressed minorities just make sure most of them are white, if there black people than there happen to be an issue.

X-Men: Protect those that hate and fear us.
The Crew: Fuck the Police!
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MrPeppers
05/23/17 11:44:39 AM
#113:


cjsdowg posted...


There only difference are the race of the people targeted.

You have the government going have oppressed groups.
You have then using robots to police the people.
You have these robot police going over broad.
You have the targeted groups stand up.


I'm not sure if you know what nuance, subtlety, or tact are.
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cjsdowg
05/23/17 12:01:00 PM
#114:


FaultyGourry posted...

X-Men: Protect those that hate and fear us.
The Crew: f*** the Police!


What you think Black Panther, and Luke Cage don't protect people.
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cjsdowg
05/23/17 12:02:26 PM
#115:


MrPeppers posted...

I'm not sure if you know what nuance, subtlety, or tact are.


tact and a 60 foot tall government funded robot bent on killing and arresting a minority group normally don't go hand in hand.
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thelovefist
05/23/17 12:05:59 PM
#116:


The Admiral posted...
@cjsdowg posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...


You don't think a comic where BLM starts rioting and terrorizing the city and some superheroes come into save the day would sell well? It would sell great and you know it.


Only to you alt-right people. Tell me did you post about one of your killing a black ROTC student .


Did you buy one of the 35,000 copies sold? I mean, you're their prime demographic. If even you aren't buying this stuff, you understand why they failed.

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FaultyGourry
05/23/17 12:13:55 PM
#117:


cjsdowg posted...
FaultyGourry posted...

X-Men: Protect those that hate and fear us.
The Crew: f*** the Police!


What you think Black Panther, and Luke Cage don't protect people.

Apparently not anymore. Gotta fight the Americops!
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Mist_Turnips
05/23/17 12:48:17 PM
#118:


They actually made shit like this? Lmao, marvel almost as much of a joke as anything in the DC universe.
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Sexypwnstar
05/23/17 2:18:51 PM
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TheBiggerWiggle
05/23/17 2:34:15 PM
#120:


This is a good topic.
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Kirby
05/23/17 2:35:31 PM
#121:


I think the biggest surprise is that dumpster fire managed to sell 35,000 copies.
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Shadowplay
05/25/17 1:22:29 AM
#123:


ChromaticAngel posted...
Kineth posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
It was canceled because of special snowflakes like this who got offended.


No it was canceled because no one bought it.


Overlapping demographics would suggest that what Vipa said quite possibly played a role in that.


No. It's because they tried to appeal to a vocal crowd who doesn't read their fucking shit.

"Wah wah wah I can't read this comic because straight white males if you did something else I'd read it." so they do something else and surprise surprise no one fucking reads it.

Having stories about black people in which the main point of the story is that they're black is shitty storytelling in most cases. It works out well when the story is about real life (such as Moonlight) and not about capeshit punching robot cops.

You should treat characters as if they're people first and foremost, and their labels secondary. Simon Baz talks about having been imprisoned in Gitmo, and the harassment his family faces, but the comic is, first and foremost, still a story about him cooperating with Jessica to punch Aliens in the face in the name of the Green Lantern Corps and not a twitter hashtag.

Well said
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emblem boy
05/25/17 1:29:39 AM
#124:


Was the series actually bad, in terms of writing or whatever it is comics get judged on?

Or is it that people didn't buy it because of the message and theme?
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ManSpread
05/25/17 4:22:28 AM
#125:


emblem boy posted...
Was the series actually bad, in terms of writing or whatever it is comics get judged on?

Or is it that people didn't buy it because of the message and theme?

cant say i read this series but 95% + of marvel comics since the early 2000s have been total shit
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cjsdowg
05/25/17 4:55:50 AM
#126:


emblem boy posted...
Was the series actually bad, in terms of writing or whatever it is comics get judged on?

Or is it that people didn't buy it because of the message and theme?


Many didn't get it because Black Panther has 2 or 3 other books out right now .
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Tryhaptaward
05/25/17 8:19:23 PM
#127:


Everyone who didn't buy this is alt-right and racist
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/25/17 8:24:15 PM
#128:


SSJGrimReaper posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Why didn't more black people buy these comics?

probably because it wasn't advertised at all, nobody really knew it existed.

Marvel has just been throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks these days


I'm gonna go with this.


This evidence of "HAHA TAKE THAT SJWS!" or that white people hate black characters.


It's a comic that got practically zero advertising (this is the first time I'm even hearing about this) and comic books already sell like shit nowadays anyway.
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Nomadic View
05/25/17 9:12:20 PM
#129:


When was the last time you seen an ad for a comic book?
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cjsdowg
05/25/17 11:07:51 PM
#130:


Nomadic View posted...
When was the last time you seen an ad for a comic book?


I get them on face book all the time.
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Darmik
05/25/17 11:10:00 PM
#131:


https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/05/the-real-reasons-for-marvel-comics-woes/527127/

The Atlantic wrote an article about the issues with Marvel Comics which gives an interesting perspective.
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jimbiz
05/26/17 3:10:48 PM
#132:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
Good.


"Why don't people of color create their own superheroes and stories instead of making existing white characters white?"

We all knew y'all were full of shit

FrisbeeDude posted...
Celebrating the death of a series because you're triggered by black activism...but keep telling us how you're not racist lmfao

cjsdowg posted...
Will white groups .. fine. Having a group for just black people. Oh know you damn SJWs should die in a fire.


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MangaFan462
05/26/17 7:48:32 PM
#133:


How many copies did you guys buy?
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TrollSlayer11
05/26/17 7:51:34 PM
#134:


Forlorn_Ass posted...
Good.

The Admiral posted...
Good riddance.

DuranOfForcena posted...
the person who wrote such trash should be ashamed of themselves

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The Admiral
05/26/17 7:51:39 PM
#135:


MangaFan462 posted...
How many copies did you guys buy?


We know the answer. This is their primary cause, they didn't do shit to help it out financially, but somehow it's still white people's fault that this comic failed.
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sylverlolol
05/26/17 7:56:11 PM
#136:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Just because YOU think it's dumb doesn't mean everyone does.

...and just because you think it didn't sell because people were offended doesn't mean that is true.
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cjsdowg
05/26/17 10:40:12 PM
#137:


It is funny , the Crew sold as much as Deadpool vs Punisher and Deadpool and sold around the same as Captain America -Steve.
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Kineth
05/27/17 4:26:39 AM
#138:


The Admiral posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
How many copies did you guys buy?


We know the answer. This is their primary cause, they didn't do shit to help it out financially, but somehow it's still white people's fault that this comic failed.


Local man apprehended on PI after being found assault a scarecrow in the middle of a cornfield.
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MangaFan462
05/27/17 10:22:30 AM
#139:


Kineth posted...
The Admiral posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
How many copies did you guys buy?


We know the answer. This is their primary cause, they didn't do shit to help it out financially, but somehow it's still white people's fault that this comic failed.


Local man apprehended on PI after being found assault a scarecrow in the middle of a cornfield.


BLM?
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Hexenherz
05/27/17 10:26:05 AM
#140:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Was the series going to be about people acting like assholes standing in the street blocking traffic. Or about people marching through libraries being disruptive for no good reason? Or even better looting local businesses by throwing rocks through the windows and lighting shit on fire followed by flipping cars and making strange noises..?


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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/27/17 11:02:26 AM
#141:


Why would regular racism even be a thing in the Marvel universe? Suspension of disblief n all to keep the setting relevant but there are aliens, mutants, robots, fey, all manor of insane, wild, legitimately dangerous walking talking nukes, but this different shade of your own species? "Those are the problem."
Give me a fucking break.

There's a reason the X-men were allegory for civil rights and not literally dealing with civil rights on a racial level.
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AmericaTheBrave
05/27/17 11:16:49 AM
#142:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Why would regular racism even be a thing in the Marvel universe? Suspension of disblief n all to keep the setting relevant but there are aliens, mutants, robots, fey, all manor of insane, wild, legitimately dangerous walking talking nukes, but this different shade of your own species? "Those are the problem."
Give me a fucking break.

There's a reason the X-men were allegory for civil rights and not literally dealing with civil rights on a racial level.


Why wouldn't regular racism still be an issue? Even if they were aliens, mutants, robots, etc. around, there is no reason to believe people would stop distrusting or disliking other groups of their own species. You think if aliens landed tomorrow, people will suddenly start liking Muslims?

It's entirely possible issues pertaining to African-Americans would continue, even with addition of fantastical elements existing.

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marc55
05/27/17 11:25:15 AM
#143:


kuwab0 posted...
Why would Black Panther be on that team

it made sense to me

he took over protecting hell kitchen a while ago

so maybe thats why
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Kineth
05/27/17 10:21:34 PM
#144:


MangaFan462 posted...
Kineth posted...
The Admiral posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
How many copies did you guys buy?


We know the answer. This is their primary cause, they didn't do shit to help it out financially, but somehow it's still white people's fault that this comic failed.


Local man apprehended on PI after being found assault a scarecrow in the middle of a cornfield.


BLM?


Local man taken to hospital after being found in the woods suffering from dehydration and screaming at some trees, thinking they were a group of black people.
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LittleScootaIoo
05/27/17 10:23:59 PM
#145:


Hur dur I'm black and I read comics!

LOL

Gimme a break, G
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Offworlder1
05/27/17 10:49:19 PM
#146:


Marvel needs to stop these gimmicks and just do what makes them successful, if they want to make a political statement do it with class and be subtle, no one is impressed with blatant and "beating you over the head with it" messages. I think the fans have said this many times and sadly Marvel is being very stupid and foolish with some of the garbage they peddle.
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CatataFish462
05/27/17 10:59:34 PM
#147:


Leftists try to say the comics always had personal politics in it...

Well sure, though I guess having a hero fight against Nazis doesn't quite hold up against snarky 4th wall breaking dialog from female characters bashing men who read comics.
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Mal_Fet
05/27/17 11:18:00 PM
#148:


Kineth posted...

Local man taken to hospital after being found in the woods suffering from dehydration and screaming at some trees, thinking they were a group of black people.

So how many copies of Black Panther + Crew did you buy, Kineth?
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Kineth
05/27/17 11:31:25 PM
#149:


Kineth posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Pwease just tell me I'm right and a good girl. I want your approval.


Sorry babe, we broke up a long time ago. It's time for you to move on.

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ViewtifulGrave
05/27/17 11:51:01 PM
#150:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Awwww seems like Marvel needs to make a safe space series for you guys.

What do you mean you guys?
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Mal_Fet
05/28/17 12:53:38 AM
#151:


Kineth posted...
Kineth posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Pwease just tell me I'm right and a good girl. I want your approval.


Sorry babe, we broke up a long time ago. It's time for you to move on.

Your refusal to even engage with the question fools nobody, bro.
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Deadpool_18
05/29/17 10:52:15 PM
#153:


PiOverlord posted...
Lol, Libby Hippies are embarrassing. When will companies realize pandering to Libby Hippies will never work as they only live to be offended. They do not plan on actually buying a product unless the Government gives it out for free.


The snowflake effect is in no way limited to liberals.
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