Board 8 > Survivor/Big Brother/TAR Summer Topic 2: I was Tempted to make this...

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even worse
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Paul being obnoxious as usual.
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literally the person most likely to nominate cody and jess

zzz week incoming
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Oh god.
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Why the FUCK would they have a random HoH the week after a cancelled set of noms? I'm so glad we get to watch TWO weeks of Cody/Jess getting treated like shit while Paul controls everything.
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do you believe that the comps are planned ahead?
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So this will be Paul's 6th straight week with power.
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soo raven looked really bad and matt looked really good, right? hmm
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Ugh, production trying to make Paul - the kingpin of the bullies - look good makes me sick.

Josh as HOH also makes me sick, especially when the bullies continued to try to instigate.

I hope Josh goes crazy again... and tries to get out someone other than the "Meatballs" :X
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The worst part is that Mark has made up with Josh so it is literally just Jess or Cody unless one of them wins the temptation comp and the other one wins the veto. Of which case we lose Mark.
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http://big-brother-camera-7.tumblr.com/post/163772928192/bugguhl-me-everytime-pail-talks

I don't think it is physically possible for anyone other than Cody to end up as my favorite for this season.
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Re: Last year's Survivor AUS

What the hell are they thinking in targeting NICK? 1) Nick has an idol, so if he plays it, you're SOL for the rest of the game, 2) it's BROOKE bossing all of you around, and 3) the threatening alliance is Brooke, Flick, and El... and they don't trust Nick. The lack of strategic thinking here baffles me. Instead of trying to earn Nick's trust to be able to use him as a vote, these bozos tried to just vote him out when he's paranoid as can be. He naturally played the idol. The very idol they could've used to their advantage. Appears he didn't need it.

Sam could have instead targeted one of those he'd anger the most. Brooke would be the most ideal - she's the one bossing people around and the one who won the first individual immunity, plus it's breaking apart the trio trying to run shit. Splitting her, Flick, and El up should be priority #1. Vote Nick out and they're not going to trust you, because you lied to them even if they wanted Nick out anyway. If you're going to flip, take out the person in power, not the guy on the bottom with the idol.

I find this final 11 to be mostly dull. It's sad considering how great the pre-merge was. But like I thought would happen, I am at very slim pickings for favorites. Nick is the only very rootable person I still have, since Flick is getting a little cocky (Brooke, however, is getting REALLY cocky). Kate was one of the most developed people there and now she's gone.

Should I just fast-forward to the finale? Or do things get better from here?
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don't fast forward
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I watched tonight's airing and I think that production made Paul look plenty bad.

The people that the edit made look clean/better were:
Cody - keeping his cool and taking his harassment like a champ.
Jess - keeping her cool and taking her harassment like a champ.
Matt - keeping his mouth shut and using the diary room to say that the house was acting badly.
Mark - keeping his mouth shut and using the diary room to say that the house was acting badly.

People who avoided any kind of editing to make their character worse/better:
Kevin - We see him walk around a lot, that's about it.
Elena - I don't even recall her in the episode lol.

Everyone else got a fairly negative edit from harassment.
Paul, Josh, Raven, and Jason definitely got a pretty negative edit, especially with Paul acting like a child, Josh acting extremely immature as usual, and Raven doing the double bird flip and acting like a complete idiot and being shady and grabby during her confrontation with Jess. Jason just seemed to be acting like a asshat in general.

Alex and Christmas looked bad for sidelining it, and popping in a comment once in a while, but not as bad as the above 4.

That's what I took from the edit at any rate. While you may not get the visual justice you were hoping for in regards to the "bullying," I do think that production fairly villainized and martyred appropriately. There's only so much they can do in an hour, and they still need to keep the show entertaining to watch, but at least nothing was really skewed by the edit by the sounds of it.


Anyone who watched tonight's episode and think Paul was being portrayed favorably must be watching a completely different show than me. My wife doesn't get spoiled, and even she felt bad for Jess and Cody and thought Paul was awful.
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From what I can tell, Paul came off bad sicking his dogs to attack Jess and Cody, but apparently, he's done so much more and worse, proportionally.
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josh hoh is hilarious
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yikes a josh HoH

I guess at least kudos to CBS for sticking to their comp schedule
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I just want Josh to be Josh and get emotional and blow up his own or Paul's game.
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And damn, feeds have been down 8 and a half hours for the temptation competition. I wonder if something happened.
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Re: Last year's Survivor AUS

Watched one more. Skipping to finale now.

Sam is an absolutely horrible human being. HE is the snake, HE is the petty one, and HE is the one who can't get over himself. Just WHAT did Nick to do him - kill his family? I can't fucking stand him. What a piece of shit. The way he treated Nick was just disgusting. He was another jock bully ganging up on the nerd and lording over him. Easily one of my least favorite people to ever play Survivor.

Now that my favorite to make the merge is gone, I am not rooting for a single person. I am rooting against pretty much everyone - there are horrible people like Sam, arrogant and then there's nonentities like El, Sue, Jennah-Louise. Thus, it's probably better to save my time. What say you guys? Is the rest of this season interesting enough to not skip seven episodes?
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It's worth watching, Andy. Definitely.
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^I tried another episode. It's only getting worse. Kylie was one of the most rootable people left, and now we're left with the most unlikable final 9 I think I've ever seen. Brooke is an arrogant meathead spoiled brat who thinks people should just bow to her. Flick is a sexist who also thinks people should do whatever she says, wanting a boring Pagonging. El is their invisible flunky who doesn't offer anything to the show. J.L. won immunity and nobody cared because she's bland, too. Sam is a piece of shit who bullies nerds because he's "macho." Lee is... boring, too. Sue is... kind of rootable, but rather forgettable. Kristie has fallen behind the scenes, which makes for an underwhelming winner. Matty the Mentalist is the most interesting one left, and now he's in a minority and is probably the next to go. Whoever I am rooting for always seems to go home these days. It's frustrating the crap out of me to see the bullies always get their way. This is exactly why I didn't like Kaoh Rong....
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Trust the story man :)
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I agree with Machete, don't be giving up on it just yet.

^
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Am I nuts or did Jessica basically confirm that she's an escort on Wednesday? "VIP concierge" was already suspect, but her whole rant to Cody where she was like "In my line of work I'm expected to act a certain way and I can't have a hothead boyfriend" is even moreso. How would a boyfriend have any bearing on your job, unless you're supposed to appear single at all times and can't have a jealous psychopath boyfriend beating up the rich old men you're paid to sleep with?
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As it was explained on feeds, she spends a lot of time with celebrities and if Cody is gonna be with her he needs to know how to behave himself.
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One more episode down. (Last year's Survivor AUS) SO STOKED J.L. won immunity. I can't fucking stand the likes of Brooke, Flick, and El at this point. They are like "She's an idiot, challenging us! She had it so good with us, being 6th." Uh, do the math. J.L. wants to win the money as much as you morons do. They're "pissed off" that she won immunity because "she's supposed to go home tonight." How stupid, selfish, and entitled can you get? And openly rooting for Matt at the challenge only fueled J.L.'s resolve. Sam is a horrible person, as I've already discussed. Matty the Mentalist is a complete moron for ratting out someone who offered him final four - can't he take a hint that Brooke and Flick have been lying to him? Lee bores me. Because they're entitled, they want a Pagonging so badly, which only makes them intolerable. They're not good TV! This group of five is an even less likable alliance than Zapatera - none of them want to win, they just want to be buddy-buddy. They can't do the math and realize that only two people can sit at the end. For some reason, they're just being sheep - even Sam the Snake (who takes every opportunity he can to attack Nick - what, does he not want jury votes?). Therefore, I can only root for J.L., Sue, and Kristie. Since one of them is gone, J.L. is the only one I find remotely rootable right now.

Tiers:
ROOTING FOR:
Jennah-Louise

LIKE:
(Sue)

NEUTRAL:
Kristie

DISLIKE:
Matt
Lee

HATE:
N/A

DONKEY SHIT:
El
Flick

WORSE THAN DONKEY SHIT:
Brooke
Sam

Anyway, with another person I started liking going out, I am done. I am not returning to this and am just skipping to next season - not even bothering with the finale. I can't stand the sight of people worse than shit (Brooke and Sam - hoping that one of them falls in the fire) anymore. I am pretty certain J.L. goes next. But even so, this is the least likable final eight I've ever seen. Worse than Thailand or South Pacific, yes. Many of these people just want a Pagonging and are just "WHY DO YOU CHALLENGE ME? YOU NEED TO BE A SHEEP!" and that's the type of player I can't stand in Survivor - the ones that openly say that and get angry when things don't go their way. I much prefer manipulators that convince others to unwittingly be sheep - ones that try to right their course when things go awry, as opposed to complaining - without outright saying inane things like "She should have just accepted 7th with us, that's so good!" This is like the "Cool Kid's Table" sort of thing and the fact that that group continues to get its way means I am done. I am sick of this. I have not enjoyed this season since the waste of an episode that was the "kidnapping" twist. I've given it enough chances. I know who wins. I've wasted enough of my time.

However, let me ask one question that may change my mind: Does something big happen in the next episode? If yes, I will keep going. If no, I will save my time. Thanks.
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Yeah to my understanding, it's for social events where she would be bringing a boyfriend that she can't have Cody acting that way.
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Andy: fun starts not in the next episode but in the following one imo. the people you don't like start to turn on each other
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don't be a bitch, watch it through
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I enjoyed this temptation comp
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damn, I hope this Josh layin' down the law against Paul and doing his own thing is legit and lasts
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Is there any chance that Josh has the numbers to defy Paul because I don't think so.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Is there any chance that Josh has the numbers to defy Paul because I don't think so.

This literally just happened on the feeds:
Christmas got Josh to acquiesce to booting Jess. Words cannot express how angry I am at this development. So much for this season.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Is there any chance that Josh has the numbers to defy Paul because I don't think so.

This literally just happened on the feeds:
Christmas got Josh to acquiesce to booting Jess. Words cannot express how angry I am at this development. So much for this season.

Aww... Earlier today Christmas seemed to be really into the idea, and was talking about it with Jason and he was on board too.
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mnkboy907 posted...

BlueCrystalTear posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Is there any chance that Josh has the numbers to defy Paul because I don't think so.

This literally just happened on the feeds:
Christmas got Josh to acquiesce to booting Jess. Words cannot express how angry I am at this development. So much for this season.

Aww... Earlier today Christmas seemed to be really into the idea, and was talking about it with Jason and he was on board too.

Hey, there's four days, so things can change. It would be a way more interesting season if Paul wasn't going to get his way for once. Or if Josh, say, backdoors Paul. Or Jess convinces Mark to use the Veto on her ("if you use the Veto on me, Elena is going. You'll be safe and you're not going to end up on the block again." But would Mark be that stupid? Doubtful, but who knows with him?)
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Wait I just read into it and Christmas was playing devil's advocate and going over reasons why keeping Jessica could backfire, and apparently that was enough to make Josh want to change his mind. Right prior to that, Christmas was still complaining about Paul playing everyone, so I'm not sure if her intention was really even to change his mind or not.
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Christmas vs. Paul is going to be huge soon methinks.
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I don't understand why people are rooting for Jessica. She's not an underdog, she's nota good person, and her going against the entire house is not interesting. It will be boring until her and Cody go. If you're rooting for her because you don't want predictable results then you should be rooting for her to go. Make Paul's group start cannibalizing each other.
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The problem I have with that idea, Timjab, is that enough of Paul's group seems to have imbided the KoolAid that I don't expect the "cannibalization" of their group to be any more interesting than that of Big Brother 16. It's Jess/Cody, then Mark/Elena, then probably Christmas, then either Alex/Jason or Matt/Raven, leaving Paul/Josh/Kevin in the final 3.
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Two more episodes of last year's Survivor AUS down!

Sucked to see Jennah-Louise go out - and just as I was starting to like her, too.

Then, in the episode Machete said where things get fun, it was AWESOME. It was absolutely delightful to see that cold bitch Brooke get backstabbed by her BEST FRIEND in the game! I now like Flick again - she showed poise and, even though she overcredits her own move (no, this is not a better blindside than Ozzy's in Micronesia or J.T.'s in HvV), she made an actual big move that I never anticipated her making. Brooke was talking about "making a big move" with her core alliance of four taking out someone outside of said alliance. Um, sorry, but that's not even a remotely big move. In fact, it's hardly a move at all.

Brooke got what she deserved for being so stupid, arrogant, and bossy. "No, Sam, you want to vote out Lee." Uh... you know that, to be a good Survivor player, you have to convince them subtly so they think it's their idea as opposed to just giving orders, right? Just telling people what to do is going to make them feel uncomfortable with their position in your version of the alliance. I did not like the tactic when Hantz did it, I don't like it now. I don't get why people were so impressed with Brooke as a player. I wasn't. Her taking charge of every vote was not done in an effective enough way to ensure her longevity. Her iron-fisted nature made her ripe for blindsiding. Boston Rob and Kim Spradlin were far more effective at ruling an alliance because they made their allies feel like their opinions mattered, even when... they actually didn't.

ROOTING FOR:
(Phoebe)
(Nick)
(Craig)
Flick
(Jennah-Louise)
Kristie
(Andrew)

LIKE:
(Kate)
(Sue)
Lee
(Kylie)
(Tegan)

NEUTRAL:
(Bianca)
(Evan)
El
(Connor)
(Rohan)
(Kat)

DISLIKE:
Matt
(Barry)
(Des)
(Peter)

WORSE THAN DONKEY SHIT:
(Brooke)
Sam

All-Stars picks should be Kristie, Flick, Brooke, Nick, and Phoebe, with a 6th being Jennah-Louise. Very female-dominated here. Brooke is necessary to be the token villain. Such a bitch - and yet, I love to hate her. And although I was not impressed with how she set herself up to be a prime target, other people seem to think she's a good player (I did like her move to convince Jonathan to fork over her letter from home and she'd end the challenge, though). Plus, imagine what happens if Flick and Brooke are on the same tribe again... they're not going to get along anymore, are they?
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I thought you'd enjoy that. It was very satisfying for me as well :)
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wtf is this filler episode doing here (Survivor AUS, last year, etc.)

What is Survivor without a vote-out? This is even worse than the "kidnapping" thing not leading to a vote-out (they should've had to vote somebody out after Sue was kidnapped). They come to Tribal and play Majority Rules, only... we don't get to see everything? Wut? And it's all just for reward? They destroyed any buildup they had. Again. Every episode of Survivor needs to have a vote and/or elimination (MedEvacs/Quits count as eliminations). I was fine with the "Oh right, I forgot, you guys were voting someone to join the other tribe." thing - that was a vote, that was dramatic, and that was interesting. It isn't like "We're not voting. Kidnap somebody." or "we're just having a challenge." I hope season 2 is shorter in terms of episodes so we don't get filler garbage.

Oh, and this challenge is garbage since El didn't get to strike back because she was "out" even though she still got it right. The rule is, you get it right, you still get to whack even if you're eliminated because it's not fair to get it right and not get to hit. Turn order should not be important.

But anyway, the final 6 is supposed to be an exciting time in Survivor. This was far and away the worst final 6 episode ever, simply because nothing happened.
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okay can i just say how amazing survivor aus 2 is

all new challenges
amazing cast

just everything
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For as much as I would think that every Survivor episode should have a vote off in it, I'll admit that I'm fine with the first episode and the merge episode not having one because if the first vote off and merge vote off takes 2 episodes, then it lets you see a lot more about what leads to the result.

Chaeix posted...

okay can i just say how amazing survivor aus 2 is

all new challenges
amazing cast

just everything

You mean 4 right? Or 2nd since the reboot? Not literal 2 right? >_>
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Chaeix posted...

okay can i just say how amazing survivor aus 2 is

all new challenges
amazing cast

just everything

You mean 4 right? Or 2nd since the reboot? Not literal 2 right? >_>

It would have to be. The 2nd one was the "celebrity" version from memory. I remember even at the time I had no idea who most of them were, so guessing non-Australians would be even more clueless as to who those nobodies were. I also vaguely remember it having some BS twist. Nobody could say that one was amazing.
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Yeah, I had no idea who almost all of them were. I only knew Kym because my folks used to watch Dancing With the Stars and she showed up on the American version.

it's 2 after the reboot

the survivor subreddit refers to it as Australian survivor 2

it's so good so far, amazing first 5 episodes

Survivor NA is being put to shame right now honestly
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