Current Events > Andromeda is honestly not THAT bad.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I mean, yeah, story is hot garbage, and characters are bland as fuck, so in that regard, it's bad.

But since the patches, it's at least fun in an exploration and gameplay sense. Not worth more than 20 or 30 bucks max, but still.

It's more of a disappointment than it is bad at this point, but in a lot of ways, t hats worse. Like when your parents say "I'm not mad, I'm disappointed". That shit cuts deepest.
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pres_madagascar posted...

It's more of a disappointment than it is bad at this point

That's sort of the whole reason people are so bitter about it. Think of it like this; the Star Wars prequels are still being lambasted seventeen years later. There have been thousands, if not tens of thousands of bad movies since then. Yet, we remember the prequels as absolute hot garbage. It's only because when you stick a beloved brand name on something, people have a tendency to levy a lot more criticism towards it.

Dash_Harber posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

It's more of a disappointment than it is bad at this point

That's sort of the whole reason people are so bitter about it. Think of it like this; the Star Wars prequels are still being lambasted seventeen years later. There have been thousands, if not tens of thousands of bad movies since then. Yet, we remember the prequels as absolute hot garbage. It's only because when you stick a beloved brand name on something, people have a tendency to levy a lot more criticism towards it.

the starwars prequels, while bad, still have more depth than SW7. i cannot think of anything more flamboyantly fake

The combat's decent, and some of the allies (Vetra/Drack) were fine, but it doesn't reach the same heights as previous MEs.
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StreetFighter5 posted...

the starwars prequels, while bad, still have more depth than SW7. i cannot think of anything more flamboyantly fake

Three movies have more depth than one? You don't say...

StreetFighter5 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

It's more of a disappointment than it is bad at this point

That's sort of the whole reason people are so bitter about it. Think of it like this; the Star Wars prequels are still being lambasted seventeen years later. There have been thousands, if not tens of thousands of bad movies since then. Yet, we remember the prequels as absolute hot garbage. It's only because when you stick a beloved brand name on something, people have a tendency to levy a lot more criticism towards it.

the starwars prequels, while bad, still have more depth than SW7. i cannot think of anything more flamboyantly fake

I actually enjoyed SW7 much more, but different strokes, I guess.

The combat is fun but the exploration is pretty bad. Every planet is the same thing with a different skin. Quests often require you to bounce between loading screens. Quests on that pirate planet were awful if you needed to go to the surface.
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Shotgunnova posted...

The combat's decent, and some of the allies (Vetra/Drack) were fine, but it doesn't reach the same heights as previous MEs.

And that's the biggest issue probably.

While it might not be a bad game by itself, compared to the previous trilogy it just falls flat and doesn't meet the expectations people had of a mass effect game.
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StreetFighter5 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

It's more of a disappointment than it is bad at this point

That's sort of the whole reason people are so bitter about it. Think of it like this; the Star Wars prequels are still being lambasted seventeen years later. There have been thousands, if not tens of thousands of bad movies since then. Yet, we remember the prequels as absolute hot garbage. It's only because when you stick a beloved brand name on something, people have a tendency to levy a lot more criticism towards it.

the starwars prequels, while bad, still have more depth than SW7. i cannot think of anything more flamboyantly fake

your username matches the quality of post
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Andromeda is a much worse game than people say it is.

I still don't get the SJW attacks it got .

I paid full price for it and I think it was ok, if it was any other game besides Mass Effect. They set the bar high with their stuff and this just felt run of the mill. I knew we would have new heroes, but damn Ryder is like the dumb guy in movies who somehow leads everyone when objectively it should have been anyone else.

Also they are in a new galaxy and most of the people you see are from ours.
And the knew people we meet are horrible.
And it didn't feel much like a role playing game. I know you had about as much freedom as you did in the other games (even more so in some areas ) however for some reason this felt lacking .
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Darmik posted...

The combat is fun but the exploration is pretty bad. Every planet is the same thing with a different skin. Quests often require you to bounce between loading screens. Quests on that pirate planet were awful if you needed to go to the surface.

I am someone who enjoyed Dragon age inquisition, so keep that in mind in why I enjoy this lol
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What's sad is, if they'd just have released the current patched version at launch, instead of that buggy mess, the backlash wouldn't have been so severe.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Darmik posted...

The combat is fun but the exploration is pretty bad. Every planet is the same thing with a different skin. Quests often require you to bounce between loading screens. Quests on that pirate planet were awful if you needed to go to the surface.

I am someone who enjoyed Dragon age inquisition, so keep that in mind in why I enjoy this lol

I thought Andromeda was worse than Inquisition. Inquisition at least generally kept the quests within the one map and there was nothing as dull as those story hub planets that lacked music for some reason.

pres_madagascar posted...

What's sad is, if they'd just have released the current patched version at launch, instead of that buggy mess, the backlash wouldn't have been so severe.

It still would have been there though.
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Darmik posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

Darmik posted...

The combat is fun but the exploration is pretty bad. Every planet is the same thing with a different skin. Quests often require you to bounce between loading screens. Quests on that pirate planet were awful if you needed to go to the surface.

I am someone who enjoyed Dragon age inquisition, so keep that in mind in why I enjoy this lol

I thought Andromeda was worse than Inquisition. Inquisition at least generally kept the quests within the one map and there was nothing as dull as those story hub planets that lacked music for some reason.

pres_madagascar posted...

What's sad is, if they'd just have released the current patched version at launch, instead of that buggy mess, the backlash wouldn't have been so severe.

It still would have been there though.

Oh absolutely. Not denying that. But at least it'd have been a functional game and the complaints levied against it would have been what we've already discussed in this topic instead of "holy shit thus game is broken"

And yeah, inquisition was basically a single player mmo. It's gameplay was solid, and story sucked until trespasser

I'm noticing a trend of games lately with solid gameplay but everything else is lacking.
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disappointment is a fair word for it.

I enjoyed it and probably put in about 50 hours, the gameplay was fantastic.
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BootyGif posted...

disappointment is a fair word for it.

I enjoyed it and probably put in about 50 hours, the gameplay was fantastic.

Yeah that's why I like it. It's fun jumping and dashing all over shooting dudes.
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So I was playing the demo, and I had some fun.

I didn't pay much attention to the story. Without spoilers, how long after ME 1-3 are these guys? I never played them. I just saw this crew wake up like 600 years after 2185 in Andromeda.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

Andromeda is a much worse game than people say it is.

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it works best as a third person shooter than as a roleplaying game, so I played it as such
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It really isn't. Coming from hearing all the hate and it being my first ME game, I quite liked it. Definitely an 8/10 game in my book.
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pres_madagascar posted...

BootyGif posted...

disappointment is a fair word for it.

I enjoyed it and probably put in about 50 hours, the gameplay was fantastic.

Yeah that's why I like it. It's fun jumping and dashing all over shooting dudes.

the asteroid level with the rover (forgot the name) was one of the best parts.
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DoctorVader posted...

So I was playing the demo, and I had some fun.

I didn't pay much attention to the story. Without spoilers, how long after ME 1-3 are these guys? I never played them. I just saw this crew wake up like 600 years after 2185 in Andromeda.

They leave earth after me2, before me3. Then wake up in andromeda galaxy 600 years later. So this game is roughly 599 years after me3.

chill02 posted...

it works best as a third person shooter than as a roleplaying game, so I played it as such

Same. I went soldier for that reason.

bulletproofvita posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Andromeda is a much worse game than people say it is.

Nah, people already say it's shit. So much so that ea is doin it's best to bury it.
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hell, this is a game I would recommend if you only want to play online with people
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Terra-enforcer posted...

It really isn't. Coming from hearing all the hate and it being my first ME game, I quite liked it. Definitely an 8/10 game in my book.

The original trilogy is one of my favorite series, but after me3's ending, I didn't exactly go into andromeda expecting much, which I'm sure affected my enjoyment.
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chill02 posted...

hell, this is a game I would recommend if you only want to play online with people

Actually, the multiplayer is the best part of the game. Considering the team was responsible for the mp in the games before, it makes sense that at least that part would be good.
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pres_madagascar posted...

people already say it's shit

Aside from people crying about SJWness, I don't really see people saying it's shit. People criticize it heavily, but the end result always seem that it falls in the "disappointing, but alright" to "slightly mediocre" range.


But it's not.

It's irredeemable garbage.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

people already say it's shit

Aside from people crying about SJWness, I don't really see people saying it's shit. People criticize it heavily, but the end result always seem that it falls in the "disappointing, but alright" to "slightly mediocre" range.


But it's not.

It's irredeemable garbage.

Nah man, seriously. I remember when it came out, all the vitriol, the YouTube vids, etc.

The "it's a disappointment but alright" sentiment is the newer view since the dust settles and it got patched.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

people already say it's shit

Aside from people crying about SJWness, I don't really see people saying it's shit. People criticize it heavily, but the end result always seem that it falls in the "disappointing, but alright" to "slightly mediocre" range.


But it's not.

It's irredeemable garbage.

its really not.
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pres_madagascar posted...

Nah man, seriously. I remember when it came out, all the vitriol, the YouTube vids, etc

The "vitriol" was about the animation and the mmoey quest. From the beginning people, like myself and chill, had been saying gameplay is good and multi is good. The story is okay, the characters are solid. Not great like garus but no stinkers like Vega or me1 Ashley/kaiden.

I don't fault a mass effect fan being upset with it not being a great mass effect game but it was still a fun game. And it's a shame that solely because it was published by ea it got shat on so hard over irrelevant fluff and now the quarian arc dlc will never happen
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It wasn't just the animation that got rightly criticized. Everything about the game is subpar. And I literally mean everything. Except the gameplay which people like a lot. Personally I'm not gonna say it was bad, but if I want gameplay that makes me feel like a superhero wielding guns made of paper, I'd play Viewtiful Joe, not Mass Effect.


The game is the most buggy release I've played since Spyro Enter the Dragonfly. It was unacceptable. Not just poor. Unacceptable that it was released in the state it was. Sure, with enough reboots you could make it through the whole thing, but I have no qualms calling it a broken game none the less. The quality is increased but still not what is to be expected of an AAA game on release date, much less half a year down the line.

The story is not just bad, it's unfathomably lazy. They moved the story 600 years and billion of lightyears away from what we know in the series, and what do we get? Re-treads of major and minor plots and elements from the original trilogy. Not a single new thing. Ancient and mysterious progenitor species: check. Generic bad guy aliens who turns their enemies into their own soldiers: check. Bipedal sentient species who follow the same familiar social structures we know with at most minor variations: check. Everyone vs Krogans plotline: check. No interesting new take on weapon technology from a civilization in another galaxy: check. Generic ice, desert and jungle planets: check.

Literally the one thing that made the Andromeda concept interesting is that they could do whatever they wanted. And obviously they should feel limited to some extent on what the series has built itself up as, they could basically re-invent everything and give a fresh perspective to the series.

The most innovative thing they gave us was a jetpack during combat. There's nothing in the game that is original to Andromeda. All the concepts and story elements and characters and even humour is ripped from the original trilogy. Nobody in the entire production had an original thought that they put into the game. And again, aside from the combat, does Andromeda do it better? Does the remnant even compare to the mystery of the protheans? Does female Garrus compare to OG Garrus? Does the krogan plot compare to the krogan plot? Does the Kadara button joke compare to the Sur'kesh button joke? Does Conrad Verner's sister compare to Conrad Verner?

You might say that there's a bigger focus on exploration than in the OT and if that's your thing, sure, but is it good exploration? I don't remember finding much of interest. There's the giant remnant ship on Elaaden and that was cool, I guess. Wasn't actually anything inside it other than turrets stuck in the wall. Couldn't even do much exploration when the game was initially released cause you had like 50 inventory slots. They increased that in a patch, but really. Plus the game pressures you to not explore via gameplay mechanics that tell you to go check your ship computer for rewards every 45 min to an hour via cryo pod and strike team systems. And at best your reward for exploration is randomly generated loot, generic garbage fetch quest (that glitched the fuck out all the time), or the 20th remnant vault that aesthetically looks identical to the last 19 you visited.

Everything about Andromeda's execution was half-baked (again, minus the combat if you feel so inclined).

Quite frankly, I feel the root of the problem lies in the premise itself. Andromeda was born of laziness. Too lazy to write around ME3's ending, let's go to a new galaxy! Too lazy to write original story or characters, let's reuse the old ones! Too lazy to contemplate the horrifying reality of humanity (and co) coming to Andromeda as a colonizing force, let's turn it into an upbeat space romp instead!

Nobody cared.

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NibeIungsnarf posted...

Sure, with enough reboots you could make it through the whole thing, but I have no qualms calling it a broken game none the less

Had 1 crash in 80 hours and I played at launch. But sure
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I Like Toast posted...

NibeIungsnarf posted...

Sure, with enough reboots you could make it through the whole thing, but I have no qualms calling it a broken game none the less

Had 1 crash in 80 hours and I played at launch. But sure

Had at least 30 reloads and reboots, as well as several un-completable quests, plus story elements I couldn't experience cause no matter how many times I reloaded my save file (not counted among the 30 mentioned above) character models and/or dialogue wouldn't play in those scenes.

NibeIungsnarf posted...

It wasn't just the animation that got rightly criticized. Everything about the game is subpar. And I literally mean everything. Except the gameplay which people like a lot. Personally I'm not gonna say it was bad, but if I want gameplay that makes me feel like a superhero wielding guns made of paper, I'd play Viewtiful Joe, not Mass Effect.


The game is the most buggy release I've played since Spyro Enter the Dragonfly. It was unacceptable. Not just poor. Unacceptable that it was released in the state it was. Sure, with enough reboots you could make it through the whole thing, but I have no qualms calling it a broken game none the less. The quality is increased but still not what is to be expected of an AAA game on release date, much less half a year down the line.

The story is not just bad, it's unfathomably lazy. They moved the story 600 years and billion of lightyears away from what we know in the series, and what do we get? Re-treads of major and minor plots and elements from the original trilogy. Not a single new thing. Ancient and mysterious progenitor species: check. Generic bad guy aliens who turns their enemies into their own soldiers: check. Bipedal sentient species who follow the same familiar social structures we know with at most minor variations: check. Everyone vs Krogans plotline: check. No interesting new take on weapon technology from a civilization in another galaxy: check. Generic ice, desert and jungle planets: check.

Literally the one thing that made the Andromeda concept interesting is that they could do whatever they wanted. And obviously they should feel limited to some extent on what the series has built itself up as, they could basically re-invent everything and give a fresh perspective to the series.

The most innovative thing they gave us was a jetpack during combat. There's nothing in the game that is original to Andromeda. All the concepts and story elements and characters and even humour is ripped from the original trilogy. Nobody in the entire production had an original thought that they put into the game. And again, aside from the combat, does Andromeda do it better? Does the remnant even compare to the mystery of the protheans? Does female Garrus compare to OG Garrus? Does the krogan plot compare to the krogan plot? Does the Kadara button joke compare to the Sur'kesh button joke? Does Conrad Verner's sister compare to Conrad Verner?

You might say that there's a bigger focus on exploration than in the OT and if that's your thing, sure, but is it good exploration? I don't remember finding much of interest. There's the giant remnant ship on Elaaden and that was cool, I guess. Wasn't actually anything inside it other than turrets stuck in the wall. Couldn't even do much exploration when the game was initially released cause you had like 50 inventory slots. They increased that in a patch, but really. Plus the game pressures you to not explore via gameplay mechanics that tell you to go check your ship computer for rewards every 45 min to an hour via cryo pod and strike team systems. And at best your reward for exploration is randomly generated loot, generic garbage fetch quest (that glitched the fuck out all the time), or the 20th remnant vault that aesthetically looks identical to the last 19 you visited.

Everything about Andromeda's execution was half-baked (again, minus the combat if you feel so inclined).

Quite frankly, I feel the root of the problem lies in the premise itself. Andromeda was born of laziness. Too lazy to write around ME3's ending, let's go to a new galaxy! Too lazy to write original story or characters, let's reuse the old ones! Too lazy to contemplate the horrifying reality of humanity (and co) coming to Andromeda as a colonizing force, let's turn it into an upbeat space romp instead!

Nobody cared.

Well put. I know the game ended up like this due to development issues.
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These topics only make me happier that I cancelled my pre order after those derp pictures were released.

I'd rather save my $30
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apocalyptic_4 posted...

These topics only make me happier that I cancelled my pre order after those derp pictures were released.

I'd rather save my $30

I paid 25 for it.
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