Current Events > Boy who transitioned to female at 12 changes his mind after 2 years.

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The_Donald
09/08/17 12:58:45 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/12-year-old-boy-trans-female-change-mind-years-later-patrick-mitchell-australia-oestrogen-hormones-a7933741.html

At just 12-years-old, Patrick Mitchell, begged with his mother to begin taking estrogen hormones after doctors diagnosed him with gender dysphoria.

After heeding advice from professionals who suggested that it was right choice, his mother was fully supportive and Mitchell began to transition.

He grew out his hair and started to take the hormones, which caused his body to grow breasts. But two years on, Mitchell had a change of heart.

Now, in a bid to revert back to his original body, he has stopped taking his medication and is about to have an operation to remove excess breast tissue in what will be the final stage of his transition.


I wonder how many thousands of others who have transitioned regret their decision but stay the course for "the cause."
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:00:03 AM
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If she wants to transition to a boy, let her transition to a boy. No biggie
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legendarylemur
09/08/17 1:00:12 AM
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Why didn't he keep the boobs and the dick? Think of the possibilities

This is why we can't leave the choices to kids. Their foolish minds cannot handle common sense
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Lost_All_Senses
09/08/17 1:01:12 AM
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This news story was such an obvious happening. People way overshot with this "be who you wanna" thing. Soon all little girls are gonna get surgery to look like fairies cause thats what they wanna be
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ForestLogic
09/08/17 1:02:49 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
If she wants to transition to a boy, let her transition to a boy. No biggie


Based on this line of thought, isn't gender identity kind of pointless? I'm not saying it is or isn't, but like come on. You can't act like cases such as this are totally okay.
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Zikten
09/08/17 1:04:03 AM
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you should not be allowed to do gender surgery until your 18. kids don't know what they want, and that is a life long decision. and adults that push them towards the surgery are evil. even if the kid wants it, if you let them do it, you are scum
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/08/17 1:04:04 AM
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Kids and teenagers are the most insecure and indecisive people on the planet. That's why transgender procedures should be reserved for people over the age of 18.

If you don't trust them to have consensual sex, why would you trust them to make the decision to cut their dick off and scar them for life?
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the_cajun88
09/08/17 1:04:18 AM
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...did you just assume that I assumed that you were assuming my gender?
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The_Donald
09/08/17 1:04:42 AM
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Its extremely dangerous telling children its ok and normal to take body changing medicines and having surgical procedures at such a young age.
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Gamer99z
09/08/17 1:05:40 AM
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He was just a trans man trapped in a biological males body you fucking bigot.
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hockeybub89
09/08/17 1:08:12 AM
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There are bound to be people who try to transition that aren't truly trans. Thankfully cases like this are not the norm and the process can be reversed.

But let's use this case as a bullshit reason to justify all trans people suffering until they are adults with enough money to address their serious condition. That is the typical way we deal with health issues that develop before we turn 18 after all.
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shnangyboos
09/08/17 1:08:23 AM
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Nobody saw this coming at all.
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EverDownward
09/08/17 1:09:21 AM
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John Money was a monster, and I will spit on his fucking grave if I ever get the chance.
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_Reivax_
09/08/17 1:09:29 AM
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So he cured himself of gender dysphoria naturally?

Fucking bullshit
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Callixtus
09/08/17 1:11:47 AM
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Good thing he escaped the progressive gender brigade before it was too late. I'm sure he'll have plenty of horror stories to tell when this is all over.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:13:09 AM
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The_Donald posted...
Its extremely dangerous telling children its ok and normal to take body changing medicines and having surgical procedures at such a young age.

Why?

Let anyone do anything
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Rika_Furude
09/08/17 1:13:17 AM
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I told you guys this was going to happen at some point
Nobody believed me and i was called a troll
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kkTheKiller42
09/08/17 1:15:23 AM
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Lost_All_Senses
09/08/17 1:16:03 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I told you guys this was going to happen at some point
Nobody believed me and i was called a troll


It was obvious to a lot of people
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The_Donald
09/08/17 1:16:34 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Let anyone do anything

So if a child consents let them have sex with a 40 year old man?

Let anyone do anything after all.
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hockeybub89
09/08/17 1:16:44 AM
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Callixtus posted...
Good thing he escaped the progressive gender brigade before it was too late. I'm sure he'll have plenty of horror stories to tell when this is all over.

Because a few regret stories mean that mental and physical issues that have been documented for centuries are a brand new invention by the "progressive gender brigade" and should be completely ignored for the first 18 years of life, unlike any other condition that people suffer.
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Bio1590
09/08/17 1:16:50 AM
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Kinda weird some of you are ranting about surgery when the only surgery this kid is undergoing is part of the "reversal".
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:17:06 AM
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The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Let anyone do anything

So if a child consents let them have sex with a 40 year old man?

Let anyone do anything after all.

No cause that's pedo. But if the child wants to have sex with himself, go for it
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Kanaya413
09/08/17 1:17:25 AM
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kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

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Callixtus
09/08/17 1:17:45 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Callixtus posted...
Good thing he escaped the progressive gender brigade before it was too late. I'm sure he'll have plenty of horror stories to tell when this is all over.

Because a few regret stories mean that mental and physical issues that have been documented for centuries are a brand new invention by the "progressive gender brigade" and should be completely ignored for the first 18 years of life, unlike any other condition that people suffer.

Nah it's just because males can't become females. It's really that simple.
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The_Donald
09/08/17 1:19:15 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
No cause that's pedo. But if the child wants to have sex with himself, go for it

Alright so you advocate for children being able to use sex toys on themselves?
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Medussa
09/08/17 1:19:24 AM
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at 12, he shouldn't have been given hormones. (and, from one of the reddit threads, he wasn't. he was taking meds prescribed to his mother. have not verified that, so take it for what you will)

despite all the histrionics, this is exactly why the current suggestions are only puberty blockers at his age.

anyone who takes this story and turns it into a weapon against trans people has an agenda. it's unfortunate what happened, but, all in all, it's not that difficult of a fix. but everything that happened is on him and him alone.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:20:28 AM
#28:


The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
No cause that's pedo. But if the child wants to have sex with himself, go for it

Alright so you advocate for children being able to use sex toys on themselves?

I mean, do you intend to stop them?
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Lost_All_Senses
09/08/17 1:21:05 AM
#29:


The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
No cause that's pedo. But if the child wants to have sex with himself, go for it

Alright so you advocate for children being able to use sex toys on themselves?


This is a really bad road you're going down
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hockeybub89
09/08/17 1:21:15 AM
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kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.
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The_Donald
09/08/17 1:22:17 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
I mean, do you intend to stop them?

Yup sure do.
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Sayoria
09/08/17 1:23:24 AM
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Few notes.

1 - He was taking the MOTHER'S pills. A doctor did not prescribe him these pills.
2 - Doctors typically live by a 12 - 16 - 18 rule. Blockers at 12, hormones at 16, surgery at 18.
3 - He never went under therapy.


This was a stupid-as-shit mother.
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/08/17 1:24:35 AM
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Being a transgender is purely cosmetic and nothing more. You're never really a male or female. You don't have the biological functions of the sex you transitioned into. Trans men still get periods. Trans women has a piece of meat as a penis.

That's why even after being fully transitioned, many transgender people still commit suicide. They realized that the change was cosmetic and it wasn't what they expected. Or they regret their decision and couldn't change back.

You should never let kids make these type of decisions when they're so immature. Most parents don't let their kids have a tattoo, but some are stupid enough to let them make a life altering decision.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:25:40 AM
#34:


The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I mean, do you intend to stop them?

Yup sure do.

How? With this?

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kkTheKiller42
09/08/17 1:26:03 AM
#35:


hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.

i just feel like you shouldn't undergo gender reassignment stuff if you're under 18.

I feel like unless it was necessary, kids shouldn't have that option.
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hockeybub89
09/08/17 1:26:21 AM
#36:


Callixtus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Callixtus posted...
Good thing he escaped the progressive gender brigade before it was too late. I'm sure he'll have plenty of horror stories to tell when this is all over.

Because a few regret stories mean that mental and physical issues that have been documented for centuries are a brand new invention by the "progressive gender brigade" and should be completely ignored for the first 18 years of life, unlike any other condition that people suffer.

Nah it's just because males can't become females. It's really that simple.

But something is going on and doctors have a few courses of treatment they currently pursue if they determine a kid has this something.

Are you trying to tell me there is nothing going on with trans people because "Hurr you can't change chromosomes"? Or that is somehow completely trivial despite the intense distress it can cause?
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Callixtus
09/08/17 1:27:58 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Callixtus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Callixtus posted...
Good thing he escaped the progressive gender brigade before it was too late. I'm sure he'll have plenty of horror stories to tell when this is all over.

Because a few regret stories mean that mental and physical issues that have been documented for centuries are a brand new invention by the "progressive gender brigade" and should be completely ignored for the first 18 years of life, unlike any other condition that people suffer.

Nah it's just because males can't become females. It's really that simple.

But something is going on and doctors have a few courses of treatment they currently pursue if they determine a kid has this something.

Are you trying to tell me there is nothing going on with trans people because "Hurr you can't change chromosomes"? Or that is somehow completely trivial despite the intense distress it can cause?

Yeah what's going on is that they are suffering a mental disorder. So some of them can only be appeased by the mutilation surgery. But luckily for this kid, he didn't let it progress far enough to get emasculated, despite the progressive gender brigade urging him on. Good for him!
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Sayoria
09/08/17 1:28:30 AM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Being a transgender is purely cosmetic and nothing more. You're never really a male or female. You don't have the biological functions of the sex you transitioned into. Trans men still get periods. Trans women has a piece of meat as a penis.

That's why even after being fully transitioned, many transgender people still commit suicide. They realized that the change was cosmetic and it wasn't what they expected. Or they regret their decision and couldn't change back.

You should never let kids make these type of decisions when they're so immature. Most parents don't let their kids have a tattoo, but some are stupid enough to let them make a life altering decision.


Damn, who knew that surgery regret was the lead cause of suicide and not social rejection, family rejection, and inability to get a job because no one wants to hire a "freak" as they say?

Of course they would commit suicide because of the surgery. What other reasons would there be?
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TimePharaoh
09/08/17 1:29:06 AM
#39:


hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.


...are you comparing taking out an exploded organ, or making a kid talk to a counselor, with permanently mutilating your body?

lulz k.
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slothica
09/08/17 1:31:15 AM
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Well at the very least he figured himself out before going through with the surgery.
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The_Donald
09/08/17 1:31:54 AM
#41:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I mean, do you intend to stop them?

Yup sure do.

How? With this?

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/783/838/b6c.jpg

The same way you dont take a child to the doctor for a sex change you dont take your child to the sex shop for toys.
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hockeybub89
09/08/17 1:32:16 AM
#42:


kkTheKiller42 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.

i just feel like you shouldn't undergo gender reassignment stuff if you're under 18.

I feel like unless it was necessary, kids shouldn't have that option.

What makes gender reassignment so special though? I had a reconstruction surgery on my feet that wasn't immediately necessary before I turned 18. Kids take medication every day for every physical and mental condition under the sun. What is the specific reason people completely change their tune when it comes to trans people? Suddenly, we should treat it like a passing phase or at least not do anything until 18 because doctors don't have an ultimate cure and thus are just quacks listening to SJWs.
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Medussa
09/08/17 1:33:25 AM
#43:


hockeybub89 posted...

What makes gender reassignment so special though? I had a reconstruction surgery on my feet that wasn't immediately necessary before I turned 18. Kids take medication every day for every physical and mental condition under the sun. What is the specific reason people completely change their tune when it comes to trans people? Suddenly, we should treat like a passing phase or at least not doing anything until 18 because doctors don't have an ultimate cure and thus are just quacks listening to SJWs.


because opposing it gets the people with the right letter after their name more votes.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:33:47 AM
#44:


The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I mean, do you intend to stop them?

Yup sure do.

How? With this?

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/783/838/b6c.jpg

The same way you dont take a child to the doctor for a sex change you dont take your child to the sex shop for toys.

What if he saves up his allowance and buys it himself
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Callixtus
09/08/17 1:33:57 AM
#45:


hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.

i just feel like you shouldn't undergo gender reassignment stuff if you're under 18.

I feel like unless it was necessary, kids shouldn't have that option.

What makes gender reassignment so special though? I had a reconstruction surgery on my feet that wasn't immediately necessary before I turned 18. Kids take medication every day for every physical and mental condition under the sun. What is the specific reason people completely change their tune when it comes to trans people? Suddenly, we should treat it like a passing phase or at least not do anything until 18 because doctors don't have an ultimate cure and thus are just quacks listening to SJWs.

Because maybe teenagers aren't mature enough to take a decision that is irreversible, and could very well leave them sterile??
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TimePharaoh
09/08/17 1:35:16 AM
#46:


hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.

i just feel like you shouldn't undergo gender reassignment stuff if you're under 18.

I feel like unless it was necessary, kids shouldn't have that option.

What makes gender reassignment so special though? I had a reconstruction surgery on my feet that wasn't immediately necessary before I turned 18. Kids take medication every day for every physical and mental condition under the sun. What is the specific reason people completely change their tune when it comes to trans people? Suddenly, we should treat it like a passing phase or at least not do anything until 18 because doctors don't have an ultimate cure and thus are just quacks listening to SJWs.


Because literally no one in the world would ever change their mind/get second thoughts/not have actually thought through getting their feet to work properly? What the fuck? Are you trying to be a dip?
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The_Donald
09/08/17 1:36:19 AM
#47:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
The_Donald posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
I mean, do you intend to stop them?

Yup sure do.

How? With this?

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/783/838/b6c.jpg

The same way you dont take a child to the doctor for a sex change you dont take your child to the sex shop for toys.

What if he saves up his allowance and buys it himself

He can't it's against the law. Just like children under 18 getting their sex organs mutilated for cosmetic effect should be.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/08/17 1:36:48 AM
#48:


The_Donald posted...
He can't it's against the law. Just like children under 18 getting their sex organs mutilated for cosmetic effect should be.

So it's against the law for a kid to go into a grocery store and buy a cucumber?
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hockeybub89
09/08/17 1:36:59 AM
#49:


TimePharaoh posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
kkTheKiller42 posted...
i feel like transitioning should be illegal if you're under 18

How do you feel about other surgeries or the treatment of other mental conditions? I mean, kids have no idea about anything, parents who pursue treatment are just crazy SJWs, and no real doctors are involved in the process. Best wait until 18 so you can sort out your health yourself. Hopefully the life lottery isn't too unfair on kids before then. You know, typical healthcare stuff.


...are you comparing taking out an exploded organ, or making a kid talk to a counselor, with permanently mutilating your body?

lulz k.

You mean the long, arduous process involving various doctors and psychologists to determine whether someone is trans and what is the correct course of treatment for them? Totally sounds like some casual life choice any 12 year old can make by running down to the local SJW chapter and getting a same day dick removal
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RE_expert44
09/08/17 1:37:20 AM
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Hopefully people don't still treat him like he's a weirdo. But after this I bet there will be transgenders out there that will damn him for getting over his disorder and not going all the way. Like it is detremential to their cause because people can "snap out of it" before they take it too far.
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