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Blue_Inigo 12/20/17 8:50:53 PM #52:	Mal_Fet posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is. You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:892596290] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously</quote> ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is.</quote> You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZombiePelican 12/20/17 8:51:34 PM #53:	Talk is cheap, there are the same people who cut thousands of jobs just to give themselves bonuses. I'll belive this shit of they actually do it (which they won't) --- https://i.imgur.com/SiKIsHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/V62ygzP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/M0MRS6S.gifv https://i.imgur.com/Lc56ify.jpg <cite>ZombiePelican posted [p:892596336] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>Talk is cheap, there are the same people who cut thousands of jobs just to give themselves bonuses. I'll belive this shit of they actually do it (which they won't)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/20/17 8:51:35 PM #54:	Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... Mal_Fet posted... EndOfDiscOne posted... MakoReizei posted... i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper. I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:892596337] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote> i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this </quote> </quote> The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. </quote> Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world.</quote> The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper.</quote> I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 8:51:53 PM #55:	Blue_Inigo posted... Mal_Fet posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is. You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash Do tell, what comments did I make? That Nazis are trash, but you still don't get to assault them just like they don't get to assault you? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892596355] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously</quote> ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is.</quote> You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash</quote> Do tell, what comments did I make? That Nazis are trash, but you still don't get to assault them just like they don't get to assault you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/20/17 8:52:01 PM #56:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Next you'll tell me net neutrality is unnecessary because Ajit Pai promises nothing will happen and Twitter still exists. Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place. Blue_Inigo posted... Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is. How are you able to tie your own shoes? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:892596361] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Next you'll tell me net neutrality is unnecessary because Ajit Pai promises nothing will happen and Twitter still exists.</quote> Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place. <cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously</quote> ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is.</quote> How are you able to tie your own shoes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/20/17 8:52:27 PM #57:	Mal_Fet posted... Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place. The 2015 rules were necessary when in 2014 the FCC lost it's ability to enforce net neutrality. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:892596382] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place.</quote> The 2015 rules were necessary when in 2014 the FCC lost it's ability to enforce net neutrality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 8:53:27 PM #58:	Hexenherz posted... You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees. These statements are non-sequiturs. If their profit margin was small enough then no, they couldn't do that. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892596430] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees.</quote> These statements are non-sequiturs. If their profit margin was small enough then no, they couldn't do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 12/20/17 8:53:28 PM #59:	Mal_Fet posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Mal_Fet posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is. You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash Do tell, what comments did I make? That Nazis are trash, but you still don't get to assault them just like they don't get to assault you? Are we just forgetting the timeout you got for making pro nazi statements? Dont even try to deny this, clown --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:892596432] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously</quote> ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is.</quote> You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash</quote> Do tell, what comments did I make? That Nazis are trash, but you still don't get to assault them just like they don't get to assault you?</quote> Are we just forgetting the timeout you got for making pro nazi statements? Dont even try to deny this, clown</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 8:54:23 PM #60:	Webmaster4531 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place. The 2015 rules were necessary when in 2014 the FCC lost it's ability to enforce net neutrality. The FCC could never "enforce" NN before 2015. On paper they could, but they had no teeth whatsoever. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892596494] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place.</quote> The 2015 rules were necessary when in 2014 the FCC lost it's ability to enforce net neutrality.</quote> The FCC could never "enforce" NN before 2015. On paper they could, but they had no teeth whatsoever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 8:54:37 PM #61:	Blue_Inigo posted... Mal_Fet posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Mal_Fet posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is. You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash Do tell, what comments did I make? That Nazis are trash, but you still don't get to assault them just like they don't get to assault you? Are we just forgetting the timeout you got for making pro nazi statements? Dont even try to deny this, clown Mal_Fet posted... Do tell, what comments did I make? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892596506] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Mal fet defends nazis. Dont take him seriously</quote> ^ Proof leftists are more likely to lie than a corporation is.</quote> You can try to forget the comments you made during the Charlottesville riots, but I wont you piece of trash</quote> Do tell, what comments did I make? That Nazis are trash, but you still don't get to assault them just like they don't get to assault you?</quote> Are we just forgetting the timeout you got for making pro nazi statements? Dont even try to deny this, clown</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Do tell, what comments did I make?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 12/20/17 8:56:03 PM #62:	This is good. If they keep it up. But I have a feeling most will just do this one good thing so they can look good, then go back to the way they were. I was thinking the tax bill should have had some sort of requirement that businesses have to invest a minimum of their savings from the tax cuts into their company, be it giving raises, bonuses, hiring more people, etc. But that'd probably be very difficult to enforce. --- http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb289/volcaitlin/gifs/dancning.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:892596584] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>This is good. If they keep it up. But I have a feeling most will just do this one good thing so they can look good, then go back to the way they were. I was thinking the tax bill should have had some sort of requirement that businesses have to invest a minimum of their savings from the tax cuts into their company, be it giving raises, bonuses, hiring more people, etc. But that'd probably be very difficult to enforce.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 12/20/17 8:56:42 PM #63:	Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... Mal_Fet posted... EndOfDiscOne posted... MakoReizei posted... i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper. I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees. It's funny rhat you argue that Europe is an economic powerhouse while the entirety of the EU economy output is only .6 trillion higher than the US alone and while China's is 2.1 trillion higher than the EU's by itself. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:892596619] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote> i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this </quote> </quote> The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. </quote> Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. </quote> The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper.</quote> I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees.</quote> It's funny rhat you argue that Europe is an economic powerhouse while the entirety of the EU economy output is only .6 trillion higher than the US alone and while China's is 2.1 trillion higher than the EU's by itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralZhao 12/20/17 8:57:03 PM #64:	Please don't tell me there are people who are so vacantly idiotic that they actually believe FedEx is going to do something with their projected near $1.5 billion increase in profits other than pad their own pockets --- https://imgur.com/a/f52rH <cite>GeneralZhao posted [p:892596639] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>Please don't tell me there are people who are so vacantly idiotic that they actually believe FedEx is going to do something with their projected near $1.5 billion increase in profits other than pad their own pockets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralZhao 12/20/17 8:57:51 PM #65:	Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... Mal_Fet posted... EndOfDiscOne posted... MakoReizei posted... i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper. I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees. It's funny rhat you argue that Europe is an economic powerhouse while the entirety of the EU economy output is only .6 trillion higher than the US alone and while China's is 2.1 trillion higher than the EU's by itself. Its almost as if the US is an economic power as well --- https://imgur.com/a/f52rH <cite>GeneralZhao posted [p:892596679] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote> i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this </quote> </quote> The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. </quote> Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. </quote> The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper.</quote> I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees.</quote> It's funny rhat you argue that Europe is an economic powerhouse while the entirety of the EU economy output is only .6 trillion higher than the US alone and while China's is 2.1 trillion higher than the EU's by itself.</quote> Its almost as if the US is an economic power as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 12/20/17 8:58:06 PM #66:	B-b-ut, Hillary! The emails! --- https://i.imgur.com/lwkIVOb.png <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:892596691] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>B-b-ut, Hillary! The emails!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/20/17 8:58:59 PM #67:	Unless "real Americans" are naive children, it might be time for Trump supporters to stop claiming he represents them. Because only naive children could take this at face value, no questions asked. "Don't ever trust the government, unless they say they're small and agree with me. Also, trust what corporations say while also reminding everyone that they have no responsibility to anyone beyond shareholders." --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:892596744] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>Unless "real Americans" are naive children, it might be time for Trump supporters to stop claiming he represents them. Because only naive children could take this at face value, no questions asked. "Don't ever trust the government, unless they say they're small and agree with me. Also, trust what corporations say while also reminding everyone that they have no responsibility to anyone beyond shareholders."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 12/20/17 8:59:11 PM #68:	Hexenherz posted... After all the revisions that were made to the thing, how much of it was actually Trump's ideas? Were any of them the president's ideas to begin with or just pitched to him by corporate interest groups? I'm not claiming to know the answer to this, but blindly praising one individual for something that hundreds of individuals worked on to make happen is kind of ridiculous to me. Literally everything is attributed to the US president. The good stuff by his supporters and the bad stuff by his opponents? Stubbed your Toe? Fuck you mr president, Found a dollar? Thank you mr president, --- I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:892596752] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>After all the revisions that were made to the thing, how much of it was actually Trump's ideas? Were any of them the president's ideas to begin with or just pitched to him by corporate interest groups? I'm not claiming to know the answer to this, but blindly praising one individual for something that hundreds of individuals worked on to make happen is kind of ridiculous to me.</quote> Literally everything is attributed to the US president. The good stuff by his supporters and the bad stuff by his opponents? Stubbed your Toe? Fuck you mr president, Found a dollar? Thank you mr president,</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 8:59:19 PM #69:	GeneralZhao posted... Please don't tell me there are people who are so vacantly idiotic that they actually believe FedEx is going to do something with their projected near $1.5 billion increase in profits other than pad their own pockets https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/money/tax-reform-must-get-done-before-wages-can-go-up-fedex-ceo-fred-smith-says/ar-AAsxmkJ --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892596762] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>GeneralZhao posted...</cite> <quote>Please don't tell me there are people who are so vacantly idiotic that they actually believe FedEx is going to do something with their projected near $1.5 billion increase in profits other than pad their own pockets</quote> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/money/tax-reform-must-get-done-before-wages-can-go-up-fedex-ceo-fred-smith-says/ar-AAsxmkJ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 12/20/17 8:59:34 PM #70:	Mal_Fet posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place. The 2015 rules were necessary when in 2014 the FCC lost it's ability to enforce net neutrality. The FCC could never "enforce" NN before 2015. On paper they could, but they had no teeth whatsoever. They fined and stopped many instances until they lost the ability in 2014. They've been fighting a tug of war most of the life of the internet. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:892596770] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Net neutrality is unnecessary because none of the apocalypse scenarios happened before 2015, when the NN rules that were rolled back were put in place.</quote> The 2015 rules were necessary when in 2014 the FCC lost it's ability to enforce net neutrality.</quote> The FCC could never "enforce" NN before 2015. On paper they could, but they had no teeth whatsoever.</quote> They fined and stopped many instances until they lost the ability in 2014. They've been fighting a tug of war most of the life of the internet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/20/17 8:59:51 PM #71:	Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... Howl posted... Hexenherz posted... Mal_Fet posted... EndOfDiscOne posted... MakoReizei posted... i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper. I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees. It's funny rhat you argue that Europe is an economic powerhouse while the entirety of the EU economy output is only .6 trillion higher than the US alone and while China's is 2.1 trillion higher than the EU's by itself. Wow, a territory smaller in size than the US has a smaller economy than the US, mindblowing. Not to mention I was talking about Germany specifically, not the EU in general, but that's alright. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:892596780] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote> i can't believe anyone would have a problem with this </quote> </quote> The only people who have a problem with this are the leftists who can't accept that they were wrong about company owners being greedy assholes upon getting a tax break rather than, you know, invest it back into their company and workers. </quote> Because companies could already afford to make these changes lol how do you not get this? Not to mention that it's just going to worsen the deficit and it's taking us in the opposite direction of the rest of the world. </quote> The opposite direction of who exactly are you referring to as the rest of the world? Germany with their reugee crisis? The Middle East? Russia? England who literally voted to leave the EU and whose population is essentially following in the footateps of the US? Oh you must have meant Venezuela who went full socialist and now their citizens can't afford bread and toilet paper.</quote> I can't believe this. You default to some of the worst propaganda about the economic powerhouse of Europe and then try to compare both the US and Germany to countries that aren't even to our level yet. Mindblowing. Shows how much you know about the world outside of whatever state you live in. As far as the guy questioning my knowledge about companies' books - the new corporate tax is 21%, the previous minimum was 20% and default was around 35%. You're in some really serious denial if you don't think companies were doing all they could already to get their deductibles down to 20%. And if they could afford to do that, they could afford to raise wages for employees.</quote> It's funny rhat you argue that Europe is an economic powerhouse while the entirety of the EU economy output is only .6 trillion higher than the US alone and while China's is 2.1 trillion higher than the EU's by itself.</quote> Wow, a territory smaller in size than the US has a smaller economy than the US, mindblowing. Not to mention I was talking about Germany specifically, not the EU in general, but that's alright.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/20/17 9:00:10 PM #72:	pikachupwnage posted... Hexenherz posted... After all the revisions that were made to the thing, how much of it was actually Trump's ideas? Were any of them the president's ideas to begin with or just pitched to him by corporate interest groups? I'm not claiming to know the answer to this, but blindly praising one individual for something that hundreds of individuals worked on to make happen is kind of ridiculous to me. Literally everything is attributed to the US president. The good stuff by his supporters and the bad stuff by his opponents? Stubbed your Toe? Fuck you mr president, Found a dollar? Thank you mr president, I know it's disturbing. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:892596792] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>pikachupwnage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>After all the revisions that were made to the thing, how much of it was actually Trump's ideas? Were any of them the president's ideas to begin with or just pitched to him by corporate interest groups? I'm not claiming to know the answer to this, but blindly praising one individual for something that hundreds of individuals worked on to make happen is kind of ridiculous to me.</quote> Literally everything is attributed to the US president. The good stuff by his supporters and the bad stuff by his opponents? Stubbed your Toe? Fuck you mr president, Found a dollar? Thank you mr president,</quote> I know it's disturbing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 9:00:17 PM #73:	hockeybub89 posted... Unless "real Americans" are naive children, it might be time for Trump supporters to stop claiming he represents them. Because only naive children could take this at face value, no questions asked. Mal_Fet posted... How many examples can you find of companies making big public statements about giving bonuses and raises and then never following through? Be surprised if you could find even one in the past 10 years --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892596801] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Unless "real Americans" are naive children, it might be time for Trump supporters to stop claiming he represents them. Because only naive children could take this at face value, no questions asked.</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How many examples can you find of companies making big public statements about giving bonuses and raises and then never following through? Be surprised if you could find even one in the past 10 years</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 12/20/17 9:01:27 PM #74:	Its almost as if the US is an economic power as well I know he implied that, but the implication from his post by tge way it was worded was that Europe is leading the world or something economically while that's just demonstrably false. China is clearly ahead of everyone at this point, and no European country is doing even close to what the US or China is so his statement is laughable. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:892596860] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><quote>Its almost as if the US is an economic power as well</quote> I know he implied that, but the implication from his post by tge way it was worded was that Europe is leading the world or something economically while that's just demonstrably false. China is clearly ahead of everyone at this point, and no European country is doing even close to what the US or China is so his statement is laughable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 12/20/17 9:03:36 PM #75:	Hexenherz posted... After all the revisions that were made to the thing, how much of it was actually Trump's ideas? Were any of them the president's ideas to begin with or just pitched to him by corporate interest groups? I'm not claiming to know the answer to this, but blindly praising one individual for something that hundreds of individuals worked on to make happen is kind of ridiculous to me. No doubt this touched a lot of hands. But Trump was campaigning for this. He promised us "big beautiful tax cuts" before Christmas and we got it. Sure it's not all Trump that went into this. But he was the one pushing this and wanted it implemented. And given how historical these tax cuts are, it's highly doubtful you're average Republican president would have done this. Certainly not Hillary Clinton. Obviously not Obama. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:892596975] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>After all the revisions that were made to the thing, how much of it was actually Trump's ideas? Were any of them the president's ideas to begin with or just pitched to him by corporate interest groups? I'm not claiming to know the answer to this, but blindly praising one individual for something that hundreds of individuals worked on to make happen is kind of ridiculous to me.</quote> No doubt this touched a lot of hands. But Trump was campaigning for this. He promised us "big beautiful tax cuts" before Christmas and we got it. Sure it's not all Trump that went into this. But he was the one pushing this and wanted it implemented. And given how historical these tax cuts are, it's highly doubtful you're average Republican president would have done this. Certainly not Hillary Clinton. Obviously not Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/20/17 9:05:12 PM #76:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... Unless "real Americans" are naive children, it might be time for Trump supporters to stop claiming he represents them. Because only naive children could take this at face value, no questions asked. Mal_Fet posted... How many examples can you find of companies making big public statements about giving bonuses and raises and then never following through? Be surprised if you could find even one in the past 10 years They've also quietly fucked people over and destroyed the economy since the turn of the Century and had to be bailed out. Curious how you only care about the good or the perceived good. You are such a curious individual indeed. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:892597060] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Unless "real Americans" are naive children, it might be time for Trump supporters to stop claiming he represents them. Because only naive children could take this at face value, no questions asked.</quote> <cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>How many examples can you find of companies making big public statements about giving bonuses and raises and then never following through? Be surprised if you could find even one in the past 10 years</quote></quote> They've also quietly fucked people over and destroyed the economy since the turn of the Century and had to be bailed out. Curious how you only care about the good or the perceived good. You are such a curious individual indeed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/20/17 9:06:29 PM #77:	Great to see. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:892597138] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>Great to see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 9:07:26 PM #78:	hockeybub89 posted... They've also quietly fucked people over and destroyed the economy since the turn of the Century and had to be bailed out. All corporations did that? Or was it banks acting on behalf of the CRA and giving out subprime loans to people who would never afford to pay them off but were given them anyway because the government insured the banks against loan defaults? Also I like how you completely ignored my question of when a company had ever lied about giving out bonuses and increasing wages like this XD shows how sure you are of your argument. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892597194] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>They've also quietly fucked people over and destroyed the economy since the turn of the Century and had to be bailed out. </quote> All corporations did that? Or was it banks acting on behalf of the CRA and giving out subprime loans to people who would never afford to pay them off but were given them anyway because the government insured the banks against loan defaults? Also I like how you completely ignored my question of when a company had ever lied about giving out bonuses and increasing wages like this XD shows how sure you are of your argument.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 12/20/17 9:09:15 PM #79:	Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted... They've also quietly fucked people over and destroyed the economy since the turn of the Century and had to be bailed out. All corporations did that? Or was it banks acting on behalf of the CRA and giving out subprime loans to people who would never afford to pay them off but were given them anyway because the government insured the banks against loan defaults? Remember you can't bring up the bank bailouts because Obama supported them. That doesn't jive with their "Obama was a saint as President" narrative. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:892597299] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> They've also quietly fucked people over and destroyed the economy since the turn of the Century and had to be bailed out. </quote> All corporations did that? Or was it banks acting on behalf of the CRA and giving out subprime loans to people who would never afford to pay them off but were given them anyway because the government insured the banks against loan defaults?</quote> Remember you can't bring up the bank bailouts because Obama supported them. That doesn't jive with their "Obama was a saint as President" narrative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 12/20/17 9:17:13 PM #80:	AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already. <cite>gp1829 posted [p:892597736] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 12/20/17 9:25:51 PM #81:	Real income has not changed since the 70s. This fucks poor people as any increase in money they dont pay in taxes will be offset by inflation. Its doesnt make them better off. --- Jake Peralta: World's Grossest Pervert <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:892598245] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>Real income has not changed since the 70s. This fucks poor people as any increase in money they dont pay in taxes will be offset by inflation. Its doesnt make them better off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/20/17 9:34:45 PM #82:	gp1829 posted... AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already. ITP not agreeing to all union demands somehow means you aren't willing to pay workers higher wages when its feasible --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892598752] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already.</quote> ITP not agreeing to all union demands somehow means you aren't willing to pay workers higher wages when its feasible</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 12/20/17 9:41:32 PM #83:	"all" --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:892599124] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>"all"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 12/20/17 9:45:36 PM #84:	KazumaKiryu posted... That moment when you realize Donald Trump is making America great again Well when did it happen? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:892599375] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>That moment when you realize Donald Trump is making America great again</quote> Well when did it happen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHarenChamp 12/20/17 10:04:32 PM #85:	just imagine --- literally the jags <cite>DanHarenChamp posted [p:892600459] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>just imagine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 12/20/17 10:07:30 PM #86:	Corporate tax cut is fine. Its the changes to the individual tax rates that are a joke --- https://i.imgur.com/7wSxCIG.gif <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:892600604] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote>Corporate tax cut is fine. Its the changes to the individual tax rates that are a joke</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gp1829 12/20/17 11:51:53 PM #87:	Mal_Fet posted... gp1829 posted... AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already. ITP not agreeing to all union demands somehow means you aren't willing to pay workers higher wages when its feasible No ITP a measly $1000 bonus doesn't negate the fact the main union demand is to keep jobs in the US and not outsource them. You probably know nothing about it at all but a post about them giving bonuses and improving their infrastructure(which they were going to do anyway) is seen as a positive to you. <cite>gp1829 posted [p:892606064] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already.</quote> ITP not agreeing to all union demands somehow means you aren't willing to pay workers higher wages when its feasible</quote> No ITP a measly $1000 bonus doesn't negate the fact the main union demand is to keep jobs in the US and not outsource them. You probably know nothing about it at all but a post about them giving bonuses and improving their infrastructure(which they were going to do anyway) is seen as a positive to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 12/21/17 1:23:53 AM #88:	gp1829 posted... Mal_Fet posted... gp1829 posted... AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already. ITP not agreeing to all union demands somehow means you aren't willing to pay workers higher wages when its feasible No ITP a measly $1000 bonus doesn't negate the fact the main union demand is to keep jobs in the US and not outsource them. You probably know nothing about it at all but a post about them giving bonuses and improving their infrastructure(which they were going to do anyway) is seen as a positive to you. You know what will actually keep jobs in the US? Making it less expensive to hire. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:892609914] in Tax reform... [t:76120591]...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gp1829 posted...</cite> <quote>AT&T is going to pay a $1,000 bonus but a re currently in labor disputes with many of their workers who they want to screw over. By not promising to keep jobs in the US and wanting to cut back benefits for their union workers. Seems like a publicity stunt like has been said already.</quote> ITP not agreeing to all union demands somehow means you aren't willing to pay workers higher wages when its feasible</quote> No ITP a measly $1000 bonus doesn't negate the fact the main union demand is to keep jobs in the US and not outsource them. You probably know nothing about it at all but a post about them giving bonuses and improving their infrastructure(which they were going to do anyway) is seen as a positive to you.</quote> You know what will actually keep jobs in the US? Making it less expensive to hire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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