Current Events > 76% of Swiss population supports banning the Burka says new study.

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UnfairRepresent 01/08/18 1:41:43 PM #1:	Should the Burka be banned? Yes No I have no view. View Results If they voted today, three quarters of the Swiss public would say yes to an initiative calling for a ban on covering the face in public, which would effectively ban the burqa. A survey of 1,167 people conducted by two Sunday papers found 76 percent in favour of the initiative, compared with 20 percent against and three percent with no view on the issue, reported Swiss media on Monday. The popular initiative 'Yes to a ban on face coverings', which last September garnered more than the required 100,000 signatures to put it to a popular vote, calls for it to be made illegal for anyone to cover their face in public, with some exceptions including for local customs, the weather and health and safety reasons. Such a law would effectively ban the burqa, though the committee says it is also targeting hooligans and others who cover their face for criminal intent. The Swiss government opposes the idea, saying its up to the cantons to legislate on the issue. However in December it proposed a counter-project suggesting it be made illegal to force anyone to cover their face. The initiative and the counter-project will likely be put to the vote in 2019. Full Article: .https://www.thelocal.ch/20180108/swiss-public-in-favour-of-burqa-ban I wonder if CE will reflect the views of Switzerland. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893652883] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote> Should the Burka be banned? Yes No I have no view. View Results If they voted today, three quarters of the Swiss public would say yes to an initiative calling for a ban on covering the face in public, which would effectively ban the burqa. A survey of 1,167 people conducted by two Sunday papers found 76 percent in favour of the initiative, compared with 20 percent against and three percent with no view on the issue, reported Swiss media on Monday. The popular initiative 'Yes to a ban on face coverings', which last September garnered more than the required 100,000 signatures to put it to a popular vote, calls for it to be made illegal for anyone to cover their face in public, with some exceptions including for local customs, the weather and health and safety reasons. Such a law would effectively ban the burqa, though the committee says it is also targeting hooligans and others who cover their face for criminal intent. The Swiss government opposes the idea, saying its up to the cantons to legislate on the issue. However in December it proposed a counter-project suggesting it be made illegal to force anyone to cover their face. The initiative and the counter-project will likely be put to the vote in 2019. Full Article: .https://www.thelocal.ch/20180108/swiss-public-in-favour-of-burqa-ban I wonder if CE will reflect the views of Switzerland.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 01/08/18 1:55:09 PM #2:	It should be banned --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:893653625] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>It should be banned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 01/08/18 1:55:42 PM #3:	Surprised it's only 76% tbqh --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:893653656] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>Surprised it's only 76% tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 01/08/18 1:56:04 PM #4:	RE_expert44 posted... I hate freedom --- http://i.imgur.com/loj3Iz4.jpg <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:893653675] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>I hate freedom</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/08/18 1:56:24 PM #5:	"I have no view" ~ What people who wear Burkas would vote --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893653689] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>"I have no view" ~ What people who wear Burkas would vote</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 1:58:36 PM #6:	AmericaTheBrave posted... RE_expert44 posted... I hate freedom --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893653798] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>I hate freedom</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 01/08/18 2:00:24 PM #7:	I don't support banning it here but over in Europe? Fuck yes. Glad they're going to fight before it's too late. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:893653874] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I don't support banning it here but over in Europe? Fuck yes. Glad they're going to fight before it's too late.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 01/08/18 2:01:45 PM #8:	I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:893653946] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 01/08/18 2:03:53 PM #9:	K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. Would you support nudity protections? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:893654049] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> Would you support nudity protections?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/08/18 2:06:53 PM #10:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... I don't support banning it here but over in Europe? Fuck yes. wut --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893654201] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>I don't support banning it here but over in Europe? Fuck yes.</quote> wut</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 01/08/18 2:13:01 PM #12:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. Would you support nudity protections? I wouldn't put enforcing societal decency standards on the same level as banning certain kinds of clothing. But that being said, I don't support having public nudity be a felony or anything like that either. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:893654540] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> Would you support nudity protections?</quote> I wouldn't put enforcing societal decency standards on the same level as banning certain kinds of clothing. But that being said, I don't support having public nudity be a felony or anything like that either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 01/08/18 2:14:02 PM #13:	Nah, I don't like the government telling me what I can't wear... except for masks. That's different, which balaclavas go under unless its cold af --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:893654589] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>Nah, I don't like the government telling me what I can't wear... except for masks. That's different, which balaclavas go under unless its cold af</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 01/08/18 2:33:56 PM #14:	AmericaTheBrave posted... RE_expert44 posted... I hate freedom So, you like the burqa, then. Unsugarized_Foo posted... Nah, I don't like the government telling me what I can't wear... except for masks. That's different, which balaclavas go under unless its cold af The burqa's essentially a mask that covers the entire body and the face, instead of just the face. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:893655709] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>I hate freedom</quote></quote> So, you like the burqa, then. <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, I don't like the government telling me what I can't wear... except for masks. That's different, which balaclavas go under unless its cold af</quote> The burqa's essentially a mask that covers the entire body and the face, instead of just the face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 01/08/18 2:35:19 PM #15:	How can you support women's rights and also support the burqa --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:893655785] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>How can you support women's rights and also support the burqa</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmonAmarth 01/08/18 2:35:28 PM #16:	i have another opinion not listed there. --- i7-4790@ 3.6GHZ \| GA-Z97-HD3 \| ASUS GTX 960 2GB \| Samsung 850 EVO 250GB \| 1TB HDD \| CX750M \| 12GB DDR3 <cite>AmonAmarth posted [p:893655796] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>i have another opinion not listed there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/08/18 2:37:36 PM #17:	I mean, they should still be able to wear one if they want. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 9 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:893655929] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I mean, they should still be able to wear one if they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RE_expert44 01/08/18 2:38:59 PM #18:	Damn_Underscore posted... How can you support women's rights and also support the burqa Some people are under the illusion that they choose to wear it because it represents their freedom or something --- RESIDENT EVIL COMMUNITY BOARD http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1074-resident-evil-past-present-and-future <cite>RE_expert44 posted [p:893656002] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>How can you support women's rights and also support the burqa</quote> Some people are under the illusion that they choose to wear it because it represents their freedom or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 01/08/18 2:41:42 PM #19:	K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:893656137] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 01/08/18 2:49:15 PM #20:	I don't think most women are wearing burkas voluntarily, so yes they should be banned. Oppressing women don't belong to civiliced countries. --- Can't think any good sig <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:893656493] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I don't think most women are wearing burkas voluntarily, so yes they should be banned. Oppressing women don't belong to civiliced countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 01/08/18 2:50:07 PM #21:	Excellent, it should be outlawed everywhere. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:893656546] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>Excellent, it should be outlawed everywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tommybel89 01/08/18 2:54:56 PM #22:	When an ISIS city gets liberated, these things get flung into the air by the oppressed. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 <cite>tommybel89 posted [p:893656777] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>When an ISIS city gets liberated, these things get flung into the air by the oppressed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 01/08/18 2:55:44 PM #23:	RE_expert44 posted... It should be banned --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:893656824] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>RE_expert44 posted...</cite> <quote>It should be banned</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/08/18 2:58:05 PM #24:	UnfairRepresent posted... Such a law would effectively ban the burqa, though the committee says it is also targeting hooligans and others who cover their face for criminal intent. Someone is actually taking the "balaclava argument" seriously? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:893656964] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Such a law would effectively ban the burqa, though the committee says it is also targeting hooligans and others who cover their face for criminal intent.</quote> Someone is actually taking the "balaclava argument" seriously?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 01/08/18 2:59:56 PM #25:	I'll support the right of women to wear it in Europe once there is some semblance of gender equality, and I know women are wearing it out of choice and not out of fear that their husbands will beat them or their community will ostracize them. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:893657048] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I'll support the right of women to wear it in Europe once there is some semblance of gender equality, and I know women are wearing it out of choice and not out of fear that their husbands will beat them or their community will ostracize them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/08/18 3:00:59 PM #26:	The Admiral posted... I'll support the right of women to wear it in Europe once there is some semblance of gender equality, and I know women are wearing it out of choice and not out of fear that their husbands will beat them or their community will ostracize them. this sums up my feelings entirely as well --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893657103] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>I'll support the right of women to wear it in Europe once there is some semblance of gender equality, and I know women are wearing it out of choice and not out of fear that their husbands will beat them or their community will ostracize them.</quote> this sums up my feelings entirely as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 01/08/18 3:03:11 PM #27:	LightHawKnight posted... K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public. That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:893657219] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public.</quote> That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 01/08/18 3:03:37 PM #28:	I don't understand the logic behind banning it. If it's to "protect" other people then that seems a little silly seeing as women account for very few of the overall terrorist population. If it's to safeguard women's rights that's also flawed seeing as women could be the ones choosing to wear it and we don't knit pick other religious practices such as circumcision (I'm not some weird anti-circumcision believer, just pointing out the hypocrisy). Should it be illegal to wear a ski-mask in Sweden, even when skiing, just because it's covering your face? --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:893657240] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I don't understand the logic behind banning it. If it's to "protect" other people then that seems a little silly seeing as women account for very few of the overall terrorist population. If it's to safeguard women's rights that's also flawed seeing as women could be the ones choosing to wear it and we don't knit pick other religious practices such as circumcision (I'm not some weird anti-circumcision believer, just pointing out the hypocrisy). Should it be illegal to wear a ski-mask in Sweden, even when skiing, just because it's covering your face?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryo_the_Inferno 01/08/18 3:12:40 PM #29:	K181 posted... LightHawKnight posted... K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public. That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures. no, it was invented with the intent of 'obfuscating' human rights. --- 3DS FC: 3222-6077-2683 <cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted [p:893657683] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public.</quote> That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures.</quote> no, it was invented with the intent of 'obfuscating' human rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 01/08/18 3:13:16 PM #30:	ChromaticAngel posted... "I have no view" ~ What people who wear Burkas would vote underrated --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:893657713] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>"I have no view" ~ What people who wear Burkas would vote</quote> underrated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 01/08/18 3:17:29 PM #31:	Ryo_the_Inferno posted... K181 posted... LightHawKnight posted... K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public. That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures. no, it was invented with the intent of 'obfuscating' human rights. And I'm opposed to laws requiring women to wear them, and if there's a circumstance where a husband or a father is forcing their wife or children to wear them against their will they should be prosecuted for abuse. But if a woman voluntarily wants to wear a burka, I don't think that should remotely be illegal. --- The poster formerly known as Kakarot181: July 2, 2002 - March 14, 2012. Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:893657906] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryo_the_Inferno posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public.</quote> That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures.</quote> no, it was invented with the intent of 'obfuscating' human rights.</quote> And I'm opposed to laws requiring women to wear them, and if there's a circumstance where a husband or a father is forcing their wife or children to wear them against their will they should be prosecuted for abuse. But if a woman voluntarily wants to wear a burka, I don't think that should remotely be illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:21:15 PM #32:	Damn_Underscore posted... How can you support women's rights and also support the burqa Because I also support religious freedom and freedom of expression. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893658108] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>How can you support women's rights and also support the burqa</quote> Because I also support religious freedom and freedom of expression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:22:07 PM #33:	justaguy3492 posted... I don't understand the logic behind banning it. If it's to "protect" other people then that seems a little silly seeing as women account for very few of the overall terrorist population. If it's to safeguard women's rights that's also flawed seeing as women could be the ones choosing to wear it and we don't knit pick other religious practices such as circumcision (I'm not some weird anti-circumcision believer, just pointing out the hypocrisy). Should it be illegal to wear a ski-mask in Sweden, even when skiing, just because it's covering your face? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893658157] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't understand the logic behind banning it. If it's to "protect" other people then that seems a little silly seeing as women account for very few of the overall terrorist population. If it's to safeguard women's rights that's also flawed seeing as women could be the ones choosing to wear it and we don't knit pick other religious practices such as circumcision (I'm not some weird anti-circumcision believer, just pointing out the hypocrisy). Should it be illegal to wear a ski-mask in Sweden, even when skiing, just because it's covering your face?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 01/08/18 3:22:15 PM #34:	K181 posted... LightHawKnight posted... K181 posted... I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes. But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public. That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures. Doesn't stop it from doing so. Also the established history is pretty terrible to begin with. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:893658168] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>K181 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm opposed to laws banning certain types of clothes just as much as being opposed to laws requiring people to wear certain types of clothes.</quote> But they are not banning certain types of clothes, just banning covering your face in public.</quote> That's a certain type of clothing with an established history, though. It wasn't invented or popularized with the intent of obfuscating security measures.</quote> Doesn't stop it from doing so. Also the established history is pretty terrible to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 01/08/18 3:25:00 PM #35:	justaguy3492 posted... Should it be illegal to wear a ski-mask in Sweden, even when skiing, just because it's covering your face? this is about Switzerland. --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:893658332] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>Should it be illegal to wear a ski-mask in Sweden, even when skiing, just because it's covering your face?</quote> this is about Switzerland.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/08/18 3:25:38 PM #36:	So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893658364] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:29:02 PM #37:	NibeIungsnarf posted... So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public. Go ahead and believe that. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893658548] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public.</quote> Go ahead and believe that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/08/18 3:30:01 PM #38:	darkjedilink posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public. Go ahead and believe that. Your feels are compelling evidence. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893658597] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public.</quote> Go ahead and believe that.</quote> Your feels are compelling evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:34:36 PM #39:	NibeIungsnarf posted... darkjedilink posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public. Go ahead and believe that. Your feels are compelling evidence. Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893658839] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public.</quote> Go ahead and believe that.</quote> Your feels are compelling evidence.</quote> Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/08/18 3:36:22 PM #40:	darkjedilink posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... darkjedilink posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public. Go ahead and believe that. Your feels are compelling evidence. Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers? Probably. This might be news to Americans but most of Europe knew about Muslims before 9/11 --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:893658934] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public.</quote> Go ahead and believe that.</quote> Your feels are compelling evidence.</quote> Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers?</quote> Probably. This might be news to Americans but most of Europe knew about Muslims before 9/11</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 01/08/18 3:37:32 PM #41:	darkjedilink posted... Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers? "Logic" You mean inference and assumption? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:893659017] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers?</quote> "Logic" You mean inference and assumption?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:40:47 PM #42:	UnfairRepresent posted... darkjedilink posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... darkjedilink posted... NibeIungsnarf posted... So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public. Go ahead and believe that. Your feels are compelling evidence. Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers? Probably. This might be news to Americans but most of Europe knew about Muslims before 9/11 Probably? Then what's the impetus for banning facial coverings, if not to ban burqas? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893659179] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>So they are not in favour of banning the burqa, that would just be an effect of their desire to ban covering your face in public.</quote> Go ahead and believe that.</quote> Your feels are compelling evidence.</quote> Not feelings, but logic. Are you telling me that, without Muslim refugees, the Swiss would still want to ban face coverings in such numbers?</quote> Probably. This might be news to Americans but most of Europe knew about Muslims before 9/11</quote> Probably? Then what's the impetus for banning facial coverings, if not to ban burqas?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/08/18 3:43:00 PM #43:	I'm sure that the influx of Muslim refugees and immigrants has made the issue of public interaction with someone who hides their face one people are much more aware of, but that doesn't mean that the desire to see it done away with is tied to that person's specific nature for doing so. If Switzerland sees a lot of people who cover their face and the people don't like that that seems very natural to me as a non-religious issue. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893659287] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure that the influx of Muslim refugees and immigrants has made the issue of public interaction with someone who hides their face one people are much more aware of, but that doesn't mean that the desire to see it done away with is tied to that person's specific nature for doing so. If Switzerland sees a lot of people who cover their face and the people don't like that that seems very natural to me as a non-religious issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 01/08/18 3:44:03 PM #44:	justaguy3492 posted... we don't knit pick other religious practices such as circumcision (I'm not some weird anti-circumcision believer, just pointing out the hypocrisy). when you claim that, have you checked the Swiss stance on circumcision? --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:893659346] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>we don't knit pick other religious practices such as circumcision (I'm not some weird anti-circumcision believer, just pointing out the hypocrisy).</quote> when you claim that, have you checked the Swiss stance on circumcision?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/08/18 3:44:19 PM #45:	NibeIungsnarf posted... I'm sure that the influx of Muslim refugees and immigrants has made the issue of public interaction with someone who hides their face one people are much more aware of, but that doesn't mean that the desire to see it done away with is tied to that person's specific nature for doing so. If Switzerland sees a lot of people who cover their face and the people don't like that that seems very natural to me as a non-religious issue. See also: https://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/pull-your-pants-up-1280x720.jpg <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:893659359] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure that the influx of Muslim refugees and immigrants has made the issue of public interaction with someone who hides their face one people are much more aware of, but that doesn't mean that the desire to see it done away with is tied to that person's specific nature for doing so. If Switzerland sees a lot of people who cover their face and the people don't like that that seems very natural to me as a non-religious issue.</quote> See also: https://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/pull-your-pants-up-1280x720.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:46:50 PM #46:	NibeIungsnarf posted... I'm sure that the influx of Muslim refugees and immigrants has made the issue of public interaction with someone who hides their face one people are much more aware of, but that doesn't mean that the desire to see it done away with is tied to that person's specific nature for doing so. If Switzerland sees a lot of people who cover their face and the people don't like that that seems very natural to me as a non-religious issue. So, you have no clue why they want to ban facial coverings so much, but are certain it has nothing to do with the burqa... --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893659502] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure that the influx of Muslim refugees and immigrants has made the issue of public interaction with someone who hides their face one people are much more aware of, but that doesn't mean that the desire to see it done away with is tied to that person's specific nature for doing so. If Switzerland sees a lot of people who cover their face and the people don't like that that seems very natural to me as a non-religious issue.</quote> So, you have no clue why they want to ban facial coverings so much, but are certain it has nothing to do with the burqa...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/08/18 3:48:22 PM #47:	I'm not certain of anything, I was just giving a more fair reading of Unfair's unfair topic title. Be a little less militant, please. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893659590] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>I'm not certain of anything, I was just giving a more fair reading of Unfair's unfair topic title. Be a little less militant, please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/08/18 3:57:52 PM #48:	NibeIungsnarf posted... I'm not certain of anything, I was just giving a more fair reading of Unfair's unfair topic title. Be a little less militant, please. Stop being blatantly ignorant. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:893660089] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote><cite>NibeIungsnarf posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not certain of anything, I was just giving a more fair reading of Unfair's unfair topic title. Be a little less militant, please.</quote> Stop being blatantly ignorant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NibeIungsnarf 01/08/18 3:59:29 PM #49:	Nobody's stopping you from going to Switzerland and conducting a survey on whether people want to ban the burqa specifically or just hiding your face in public. <cite>NibeIungsnarf posted [p:893660162] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>Nobody's stopping you from going to Switzerland and conducting a survey on whether people want to ban the burqa specifically or just hiding your face in public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 01/08/18 4:13:26 PM #50:	The burka, like many Islamic traditions, is intentionally patriarchal, misogynistic, regressive, etc. This might not be of major concern were it not for mass immigration of these people who don't hold the same Western values into European countries. Once the population is for the most part replaced and the natives are driven away the country will no longer be what it once was. There's a real imminent threat here. Their Islamic traditions must be reigned in. They need to adapt to Europe, not the other way around. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:893660904] in 76% of Swi... [t:76180367]...</cite> <quote>The burka, like many Islamic traditions, is intentionally patriarchal, misogynistic, regressive, etc. This might not be of major concern were it not for mass immigration of these people who don't hold the same Western values into European countries. Once the population is for the most part replaced and the natives are driven away the country will no longer be what it once was. There's a real imminent threat here. Their Islamic traditions must be reigned in. They need to adapt to Europe, not the other way around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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