Poll of the Day > finally, you can be arrested for driving people to suicide

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Zikten 01/25/18 1:11:31 PM #1:	http://nbc4i.com/2018/01/24/two-12-year-olds-arrested-for-cyberbullying-before-girls-suicide/ 2 12 year olds made a girl they used to be friends with (which makes it even more fucked up) to hang herself. on the very day of her death she skyped with one of her enemies, and he told her to just hurry up and do it. now they are in deep shit. hopefully this puts a dent in online bullying when people see the consequences <cite>Zikten posted [p:894780161] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>http://nbc4i.com/2018/01/24/two-12-year-olds-arrested-for-cyberbullying-before-girls-suicide/ 2 12 year olds made a girl they used to be friends with (which makes it even more fucked up) to hang herself. on the very day of her death she skyped with one of her enemies, and he told her to just hurry up and do it. now they are in deep shit. hopefully this puts a dent in online bullying when people see the consequences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sherm128 01/25/18 3:21:07 PM #2:	Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it. --- 3DS FC: 1332-7873-0454 Name: Sherman ACPC ID: 5250-5545-598 Name: Sherman <cite>Sherm128 posted [p:894788216] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 01/25/18 3:22:06 PM #3:	Sherm128 posted... Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it. I don't know if I agree with full-on murder charges, but I certainly agree for the most part. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:894788275] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sherm128 posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it.</quote> I don't know if I agree with full-on murder charges, but I certainly agree for the most part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 01/25/18 3:22:30 PM #4:	I saw another case years ago where a girlfriend was telling her boyfriend to kill himself over and over and I believe she got charged too. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:894788303] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>I saw another case years ago where a girlfriend was telling her boyfriend to kill himself over and over and I believe she got charged too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 01/25/18 3:24:06 PM #5:	Finally you can be charged for murder because of your words. What a great day we live in. --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:894788427] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Finally you can be charged for murder because of your words. What a great day we live in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sherm128 01/25/18 3:26:14 PM #6:	Krow_Incarnate posted... Sherm128 posted... Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it. I don't know if I agree with full-on murder charges, but I certainly agree for the most part. If not murder, then definitely manslaughter --- 3DS FC: 1332-7873-0454 Name: Sherman ACPC ID: 5250-5545-598 Name: Sherman <cite>Sherm128 posted [p:894788583] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krow_Incarnate posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sherm128 posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it.</quote> I don't know if I agree with full-on murder charges, but I certainly agree for the most part.</quote> If not murder, then definitely manslaughter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sherm128 01/25/18 3:27:20 PM #7:	Moonjay posted... I saw another case years ago where a girlfriend was telling her boyfriend to kill himself over and over and I believe she got charged too. I remember this story too. The girl was trying to get insurance money out of his death if I remember correctly --- 3DS FC: 1332-7873-0454 Name: Sherman ACPC ID: 5250-5545-598 Name: Sherman <cite>Sherm128 posted [p:894788653] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>I saw another case years ago where a girlfriend was telling her boyfriend to kill himself over and over and I believe she got charged too.</quote> I remember this story too. The girl was trying to get insurance money out of his death if I remember correctly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:31:30 PM #8:	Sherm128 posted... Moonjay posted... I saw another case years ago where a girlfriend was telling her boyfriend to kill himself over and over and I believe she got charged too. I remember this story too. The girl was trying to get insurance money out of his death if I remember correctly no she wasn't trying to get insurance money. what happened was she kept telling her boyfriend it was okay to kill himself because he was suicidal and basically told him to get back in the truck when he chickened out. so he did and then he died. after that, she did a suicide awareness fundraiser acting like she was a victim of the event and raised a bunch of money in his name. later the text messages were discovered. she was charged and convicted and is in jail now. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894788901] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sherm128 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>I saw another case years ago where a girlfriend was telling her boyfriend to kill himself over and over and I believe she got charged too.</quote> I remember this story too. The girl was trying to get insurance money out of his death if I remember correctly</quote> no she wasn't trying to get insurance money. what happened was she kept telling her boyfriend it was okay to kill himself because he was suicidal and basically told him to get back in the truck when he chickened out. so he did and then he died. after that, she did a suicide awareness fundraiser acting like she was a victim of the event and raised a bunch of money in his name. later the text messages were discovered. she was charged and convicted and is in jail now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 01/25/18 3:32:56 PM #9:	Nice job remebering the case. I vaguely remembered a truck being involved but couldn't remember exactly what happened. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:894788988] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Nice job remebering the case. I vaguely remembered a truck being involved but couldn't remember exactly what happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:34:16 PM #10:	Wasn't there another one where the kids were young and some girl texted some guy (like less than 16 years old) to kill himself and he did --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894789090] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't there another one where the kids were young and some girl texted some guy (like less than 16 years old) to kill himself and he did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:35:40 PM #11:	Moonjay posted... Nice job remebering the case. I vaguely remembered a truck being involved but couldn't remember exactly what happened. yeah suicide by carbon monoxide. very sad. Muffinz0rz posted... Wasn't there another one where the kids were young and some girl texted some guy (like less than 16 years old) to kill himself and he did that's the case we're talking about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texting-suicide-trial-sentencing-michelle-carter-conrad-roy-death-by-text/ --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894789178] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>Nice job remebering the case. I vaguely remembered a truck being involved but couldn't remember exactly what happened.</quote> yeah suicide by carbon monoxide. very sad. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Wasn't there another one where the kids were young and some girl texted some guy (like less than 16 years old) to kill himself and he did</quote> that's the case we're talking about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texting-suicide-trial-sentencing-michelle-carter-conrad-roy-death-by-text/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
supergamer19 01/25/18 3:42:21 PM #12:	Man, I don't think I like this law. --- I love the Power Glove. It's so bad --- PSN & Wii U: BrunyBrunz Nintendo Switch: 7367-4887-2583 <cite>supergamer19 posted [p:894789676] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Man, I don't think I like this law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:43:10 PM #13:	supergamer19 posted... Man, I don't think I like this law. why? are you driving lots of people to commit suicide? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894789751] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>supergamer19 posted...</cite> <quote>Man, I don't think I like this law.</quote> why? are you driving lots of people to commit suicide?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 01/25/18 3:44:28 PM #14:	Smarkil posted... Finally you can be charged for murder because of your words. What a great day we live in. yeah, sketchy precedent to set --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:894789835] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Finally you can be charged for murder because of your words. What a great day we live in.</quote> yeah, sketchy precedent to set</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:45:01 PM #15:	Jen0125 posted... that's the case we're talking about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texting-suicide-trial-sentencing-michelle-carter-conrad-roy-death-by-text/ oh Jen0125 posted... supergamer19 posted... Man, I don't think I like this law. why? are you driving lots of people to commit suicide? PaddysPub posted... sketchy precedent --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894789879] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>that's the case we're talking about https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texting-suicide-trial-sentencing-michelle-carter-conrad-roy-death-by-text/</quote> oh <cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>supergamer19 posted...</cite> <quote>Man, I don't think I like this law.</quote> why? are you driving lots of people to commit suicide?</quote> <cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote>sketchy precedent</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:46:16 PM #16:	i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894789969] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:46:39 PM #17:	Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling" --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894790001] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 01/25/18 3:47:16 PM #18:	Sherm128 posted... Krow_Incarnate posted... Sherm128 posted... Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it. I don't know if I agree with full-on murder charges, but I certainly agree for the most part. If not murder, then definitely manslaughter That's what I was thinking. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:894790053] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sherm128 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krow_Incarnate posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sherm128 posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Telling someone to kill themselves should be considered murder, especially if the person follows through with it.</quote> I don't know if I agree with full-on murder charges, but I certainly agree for the most part.</quote> If not murder, then definitely manslaughter</quote> That's what I was thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/25/18 3:47:38 PM #19:	I'm happy to see action taken, but they're 12 so... idk, that's a kinda mitigating circumstance. Smarkil posted... Finally you can be charged for murder because of your words. What a great day we live in. 1) They're not being charged with murder. 2) You already could be "charged because of your words" for crimes. For starters, there are incitement laws. 3) They harassed and intimidated her for weeks prior to this so it wasn't an isolated incident. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:894790073] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>I'm happy to see action taken, but they're 12 so... idk, that's a kinda mitigating circumstance. <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>Finally you can be charged for murder because of your words. What a great day we live in.</quote> 1) They're not being charged with murder. 2) You already could be "charged because of your words" for crimes. For starters, there are incitement laws. 3) They harassed and intimidated her for weeks prior to this so it wasn't an isolated incident.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:47:52 PM #20:	Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling" yeah and there are varying degrees of crimes so. if you pressure someone into committing suicide and don't call the police when you know they have their car rigged to kill themselves you should be charged with a crime, imo. i don't have a problem with that. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894790088] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling"</quote> yeah and there are varying degrees of crimes so. if you pressure someone into committing suicide and don't call the police when you know they have their car rigged to kill themselves you should be charged with a crime, imo. i don't have a problem with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 01/25/18 3:47:59 PM #21:	How about you don't torment people and then you don't have to worry about the precedent. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:894790094] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>How about you don't torment people and then you don't have to worry about the precedent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 01/25/18 3:48:19 PM #22:	Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:894790124] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:48:45 PM #23:	PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894790158] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 01/25/18 3:49:21 PM #24:	Moonjay posted... How about you don't torment people and then you don't have to worry about the precedent. Im not the one telling people to kill themselves. I can just see how this legally, is murky water --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:894790198] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>How about you don't torment people and then you don't have to worry about the precedent.</quote> Im not the one telling people to kill themselves. I can just see how this legally, is murky water</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:49:49 PM #25:	Jen0125 posted... PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for. Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894790233] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for.</quote> Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 01/25/18 3:50:03 PM #26:	Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling" Well it has to be a little more involved than saying go kill yourself once out of context. To be honest though there's no reason to ever say that to someone. Like ever. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:894790252] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling"</quote> Well it has to be a little more involved than saying go kill yourself once out of context. To be honest though there's no reason to ever say that to someone. Like ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:50:35 PM #27:	Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for. Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime? well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894790293] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for.</quote> Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime?</quote> well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:51:20 PM #28:	chaosbowser posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling" Well it has to be a little more involved than saying go kill yourself once out of context. To be honest though there's no reason to ever say that to someone. Like ever. Oh I agree, and I don't defend anything she (or people like her) did. It's a devil's advocate thing. It's a very slippery slope, is the only point I'm making. Jen0125 posted... well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did. So I should go to jail? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894790354] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> There's a difference between "tormenting" and "telling"</quote> Well it has to be a little more involved than saying go kill yourself once out of context. To be honest though there's no reason to ever say that to someone. Like ever.</quote> Oh I agree, and I don't defend anything she (or people like her) did. It's a devil's advocate thing. It's a very slippery slope, is the only point I'm making. <cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did.</quote> So I should go to jail?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeeVees 01/25/18 3:51:23 PM #29:	For some reason I thought you meant driving people to their suicide destination in a car. --- Rudy sucks <cite>VeeVees posted [p:894790360] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>For some reason I thought you meant driving people to their suicide destination in a car.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 01/25/18 3:53:13 PM #30:	Jen0125 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for. Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime? well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did. Also you basically have always been accountable for your words as much as your actions. Its just being considered more in the case of verbally tormenting someone to kill themselves. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:894790504] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for.</quote> Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime?</quote> well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did.</quote> Also you basically have always been accountable for your words as much as your actions. Its just being considered more in the case of verbally tormenting someone to kill themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 01/25/18 3:53:19 PM #31:	PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. Which would be an argument not to try any cases. After all, many rape cases aren't cut & dry. Should we not try rape as a crime? More importantly, they're being arrested on cyberbullying charges, for which there's plenty of precedent and -- as in most cyberbullying cases -- a tremendous amount of evidence because cyberbullying is an evidence-friendly offense. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:894790512] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> Which would be an argument not to try any cases. After all, many rape cases aren't cut & dry. Should we not try rape as a crime? More importantly, they're being arrested on cyberbullying charges, for which there's plenty of precedent and -- as in most cyberbullying cases -- a tremendous amount of evidence because cyberbullying is an evidence-friendly offense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 01/25/18 3:54:09 PM #33:	see yall in jail --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:894790580] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>see yall in jail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xfma100 01/25/18 3:54:54 PM #34:	VeeVees posted... For some reason I thought you meant driving people to their suicide destination in a car. Same lol. <cite>Xfma100 posted [p:894790640] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeeVees posted...</cite> <quote>For some reason I thought you meant driving people to their suicide destination in a car.</quote> Same lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:55:39 PM #35:	chaosbowser posted... Jen0125 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for. Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime? well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did. Also you basically have always been accountable for your words as much as your actions. Its just being considered more in the case of verbally tormenting someone to kill themselves. It's one thing to design and orchestrate an entire heist But if I literally said "you should rob a bank" and you did, should I get charged for it? PaddysPub posted... kill yourselves b7 and also in jail --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894790685] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> so what? that's what a police investigation and trial are for.</quote> Okay but like if I told you to go rob a bank and you did, should I be arrested for being accomplice to a crime?</quote> well technically you are an accomplice. you ordered someone to rob a bank and they did.</quote> Also you basically have always been accountable for your words as much as your actions. Its just being considered more in the case of verbally tormenting someone to kill themselves.</quote> It's one thing to design and orchestrate an entire heist But if I literally said "you should rob a bank" and you did, should I get charged for it? <cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote>kill yourselves</quote> b7 and also in jail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 01/25/18 3:58:12 PM #36:	not banned for that lol --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:894790875] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>not banned for that lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 3:58:24 PM #37:	Muffinz0rz posted... So I should go to jail? that'd be up to a jury to decide --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894790885] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>So I should go to jail?</quote> that'd be up to a jury to decide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 3:58:42 PM #38:	Jen0125 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... So I should go to jail? that'd be up to a jury to decide What's your opinion? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894790916] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>So I should go to jail?</quote> that'd be up to a jury to decide</quote> What's your opinion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 01/25/18 4:00:19 PM #39:	I was talking more about verbal threats/harassment. Theyre considered just as seriously as physical. Idk why this would be a new slippery slope for manslaughter. Depending on the level of involvement. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:894791043] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>I was talking more about verbal threats/harassment. Theyre considered just as seriously as physical. Idk why this would be a new slippery slope for manslaughter. Depending on the level of involvement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaddysPub 01/25/18 4:01:32 PM #40:	Zeus posted... PaddysPub posted... Jen0125 posted... i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide? because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case. Which would be an argument not to try any cases. After all, many rape cases aren't cut & dry. Should we not try rape as a crime? More importantly, they're being arrested on cyberbullying charges, for which there's plenty of precedent and -- as in most cyberbullying cases -- a tremendous amount of evidence because cyberbullying is an evidence-friendly offense. good point tbh --- Paddys Pub, home of the original Kitten Mittens! <cite>PaddysPub posted [p:894791118] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>i don't find it sketchy at all. why shouldn't there be consequences if you torment someone so badly they commit suicide?</quote> because its not always going to be as cut and dry as this case.</quote> Which would be an argument not to try any cases. After all, many rape cases aren't cut & dry. Should we not try rape as a crime? More importantly, they're being arrested on cyberbullying charges, for which there's plenty of precedent and -- as in most cyberbullying cases -- a tremendous amount of evidence because cyberbullying is an evidence-friendly offense.</quote> good point tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 4:02:10 PM #41:	Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... So I should go to jail? that'd be up to a jury to decide What's your opinion? if you literally just said "go rob a bank" to someone once and they went and did it i don't think you should be charged. but that's also not what is happening here. they aren't going to arrest you for saying "kill yourself" to a person once. this type of charge is due to a history of repeated abuse or coercion to get someone to kill themselves. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894791171] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>So I should go to jail?</quote> that'd be up to a jury to decide</quote> What's your opinion?</quote> if you literally just said "go rob a bank" to someone once and they went and did it i don't think you should be charged. but that's also not what is happening here. they aren't going to arrest you for saying "kill yourself" to a person once. this type of charge is due to a history of repeated abuse or coercion to get someone to kill themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 01/25/18 4:06:08 PM #42:	Yeah I think the more comparable situation would be if you told someone to rob a specific place every day for weeks and maybe even planned how they should do it. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:894791464] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I think the more comparable situation would be if you told someone to rob a specific place every day for weeks and maybe even planned how they should do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 01/25/18 4:11:25 PM #43:	Jen0125 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Jen0125 posted... Muffinz0rz posted... So I should go to jail? that'd be up to a jury to decide What's your opinion? if you literally just said "go rob a bank" to someone once and they went and did it i don't think you should be charged. but that's also not what is happening here. they aren't going to arrest you for saying "kill yourself" to a person once. this type of charge is due to a history of repeated abuse or coercion to get someone to kill themselves. I guess you can also be charged for saying you're going to harm the president... I get it, but where is the line drawn? "Lol! Omg you should totally rob that bank" "Yeah dude Billy and Joe can drive getaway" "Hahahah perfect and Alex can be the one who goes in exactly at 1:00" What if you just punctuated a really specific plan with "lols?" Could you then claim it's a joke? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:894791774] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>So I should go to jail?</quote> that'd be up to a jury to decide</quote> What's your opinion?</quote> if you literally just said "go rob a bank" to someone once and they went and did it i don't think you should be charged. but that's also not what is happening here. they aren't going to arrest you for saying "kill yourself" to a person once. this type of charge is due to a history of repeated abuse or coercion to get someone to kill themselves.</quote> I guess you can also be charged for saying you're going to harm the president... I get it, but where is the line drawn? "Lol! Omg you should totally rob that bank" "Yeah dude Billy and Joe can drive getaway" "Hahahah perfect and Alex can be the one who goes in exactly at 1:00" What if you just punctuated a really specific plan with "lols?" Could you then claim it's a joke?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 01/25/18 4:12:16 PM #44:	the line depends on the situation. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:894791837] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>the line depends on the situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/25/18 4:13:42 PM #45:	Muffinz0rz posted... I guess you can also be charged for saying you're going to harm the president... Welching isn't illegal... Yet. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:894791951] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>I guess you can also be charged for saying you're going to harm the president...</quote> Welching isn't illegal... Yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 01/25/18 4:15:05 PM #46:	@Kimbos_Egg you gonna jail, boi --- Official King of Black People http://i.imgur.com/Zk3VS3o.jpg http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:894792038] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>@Kimbos_Egg you gonna jail, boi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 01/25/18 4:15:22 PM #47:	That's the whole thing. Laws are guidelines and things can fall within those guidelines and be treated differently than another thing under the same guidelines because nothing happens in a vacuum and there are millions of factors to consider. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:894792059] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>That's the whole thing. Laws are guidelines and things can fall within those guidelines and be treated differently than another thing under the same guidelines because nothing happens in a vacuum and there are millions of factors to consider.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 01/25/18 4:22:10 PM #48:	EvilMegas posted... @Kimbos_Egg you gonna jail, boi confirm the kill first. --- You think you've Got problems? http://i.imgur.com/vgckRUN.jpg <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:894792491] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>EvilMegas posted...</cite> <quote>@Kimbos_Egg you gonna jail, boi</quote> confirm the kill first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 01/25/18 4:26:02 PM #49:	Harassment and bullying isn't cool. I'll never understand why some people just can't leave others alone if they don't like them. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:894792727] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Harassment and bullying isn't cool. I'll never understand why some people just can't leave others alone if they don't like them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 01/25/18 4:26:07 PM #50:	Moonjay posted... That's the whole thing. Laws are guidelines and things can fall within those guidelines and be treated differently than another thing under the same guidelines because nothing happens in a vacuum and there are millions of factors to consider. Nope. Social conventions are guidelines, laws are absolute (though not the severity). I know laws are drawn up for all kinds of stupid shit, but they're meant to be the last resort. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:894792735] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>That's the whole thing. Laws are guidelines and things can fall within those guidelines and be treated differently than another thing under the same guidelines because nothing happens in a vacuum and there are millions of factors to consider.</quote> Nope. Social conventions are guidelines, laws are absolute (though not the severity). I know laws are drawn up for all kinds of stupid shit, but they're meant to be the last resort.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 01/25/18 4:27:30 PM #51:	Laws are not absolute. Nor should they be. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:894792824] in finally, y... [t:76241457]...</cite> <quote>Laws are not absolute. Nor should they be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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