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Patty_Fleur
02/10/18 4:22:34 PM
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Lol it's fun being a teacher.

He had is hood on in class so I told him to take it off. 5-7 minutes he has it back on.

The parent claims that the hoodie was only half way up his head because his son was leaning back in his chair.

This is the first time in 1 and a half years of teaching that some parent actually got upset with me.
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Genocet_10-325
02/10/18 4:23:10 PM
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Fair, next
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SSJ2GrimReaper
02/10/18 4:24:07 PM
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you gonna get that ass whooped after school
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/10/18 4:24:39 PM
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As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.
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Patty_Fleur
02/10/18 4:26:44 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.


It's associated with gangs.

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.
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MrNintendo1213
02/10/18 4:28:15 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.


It's associated with gangs.

It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.


Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.
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QueenCarly
02/10/18 4:28:59 PM
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MrNintendo1213 posted...
Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.

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Offworlder1
02/10/18 4:30:12 PM
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If your young and attractive most gang members will not respect you, and a woman coming down on them is a big hit to their pride/ego. Taking the approach you are is the only way they will have any respect for you.
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CapnMuffin
02/10/18 4:31:03 PM
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lol no, you do have to set the stage as a teacher or theyll eat you alive, especially before that winter break hump
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Kineth
02/10/18 4:31:07 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
If your young and attractive most gang members will not respect you, and a woman coming down on them is a big hit to their pride/ego. Taking the approach you are is the only way they will have any respect for you.


TC is a dude.
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Genocet_10-325
02/10/18 4:31:13 PM
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QueenCarly posted...
MrNintendo1213 posted...
Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.

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weapon_d00d816
02/10/18 4:32:33 PM
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Lunch detention? That sounds unethical. "As punishment you can't eat!"
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knuxnole
02/10/18 4:33:16 PM
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Why did you punish him? Give him a warning

He is going to keep doing it.
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Offworlder1
02/10/18 4:34:42 PM
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Huh I thought Patty was a woman poster, oh well, still need to do as they are doing to command respect.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/10/18 4:36:02 PM
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I was just curious. I can understand with gang affiliation that you don't allow them to wear gang colors or obscure their face.
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0AbsoluteZero0
02/10/18 4:37:07 PM
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Its disturbing to think that TC is in charge of peoples children.
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pegusus123456
02/10/18 4:42:34 PM
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Oh snap, it's the dude from my sig
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_MorningStar
02/10/18 4:45:52 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Lunch detention? That sounds unethical. "As punishment you can't eat!"

Holy shit this is a stupid post
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DK9292
02/10/18 4:48:13 PM
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I hope you lose your job, TC. I seriously do.
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weapon_d00d816
02/10/18 4:55:20 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Lunch detention? That sounds unethical. "As punishment you can't eat!"


That's not how lunch detention works.

_MorningStar posted...
Holy shit this is a stupid post

Okay then what the hell is it? I'm short for alternate ideas here. Eating lunch in the detention room? Going to lunch but not being allowed to sit with your friends?
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Hexenherz
02/10/18 4:56:52 PM
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I got lunch detention once in middle school because the bus was late. And the teacher didn't even show up to the detention because he forgot about it so some other teacher had to watch me.

Getting upset about someone wearing a hood is like basically the same thing imo.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:01:40 PM
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People itt dont understand that

Were demonstrating basic uniformity

Stuff like this snowballs, one kid wears a hoodie another kid wears it and then everyone wears it and then people start challenging the teacher

You have curb the small infractions to prevent the large ones, its basic classroom management

None teachers dont understand this

Source - 7th grade ELA teacher in Brooklyn

Also, tc - look into positive reinforce techniques, its a lot to learn but in the long run it is excellent to use
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Hexenherz
02/10/18 5:02:44 PM
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"None teacher"? -_-
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DK9292
02/10/18 5:04:08 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:05:47 PM
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DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Honestly, like I said - I dont expect anyone who isnt a teacher to understand why we come down so hard on stuff like this
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On_The_Edge
02/10/18 5:06:07 PM
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Imagine being so authoritarian that you care if someone wears a hoodie

You have no authority as a teacher if you enforce that shit
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knuxnole
02/10/18 5:06:21 PM
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When you give a kid detention, they act up WORSE

I usually did.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:07:41 PM
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On_The_Edge posted...
Imagine being so authoritarian that you care if someone wears a hoodie

You have no authority as a teacher if you enforce that shit


OTE you teach fully functioning young adults

You dont teach children who are still learning social norms

Stay in your lane dude
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weapon_d00d816
02/10/18 5:07:56 PM
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knuxnole posted...
When you give a kid detention, they act up WORSE

I usually did.

True.

You start impressing upon them that they're a bad kid and that acting out is their place in the world.
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DK9292
02/10/18 5:08:19 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Yes, let kids run the class and not the adult in charge trying to be...the adult in charge.

Being the adult in charge doesn't give you the opportunity to shit on your students.

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:09:00 PM
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DK9292 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Yes, let kids run the class and not the adult in charge trying to be...the adult in charge.

Being the adult in charge doesn't give you the opportunity to shit on your students.

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.


This is extremely different than what tc is implying dude
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DK9292
02/10/18 5:09:37 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Honestly, like I said - I dont expect anyone who isnt a teacher to understand why we come down so hard on stuff like this

Oh, perfect, real fucking mature.

"If you're not a teacher, then you're just too stupid to understand."

Shit like this is why teachers genuinely piss me off.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:10:38 PM
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DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Honestly, like I said - I dont expect anyone who isnt a teacher to understand why we come down so hard on stuff like this

Oh, perfect, real fucking mature.

"If you're not a teacher, then you're just too stupid to understand."

Shit like this is why teachers genuinely piss me off.


Dude Im not being petty, classroom management is a thing - it is an extensively
Studied art. I cant convince you that what I enforce in my class is the proper thing to do cuz most people assume all I do is come up with a lesson and go lecture - thats an invitation to chaos
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DK9292
02/10/18 5:11:05 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
DK9292 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Yes, let kids run the class and not the adult in charge trying to be...the adult in charge.

Being the adult in charge doesn't give you the opportunity to shit on your students.

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.


This is extremely different than what tc is implying dude

Patty_Fleur posted...
It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.

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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:11:55 PM
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DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
DK9292 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
then people start challenging the teacher

Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Yes, let kids run the class and not the adult in charge trying to be...the adult in charge.

Being the adult in charge doesn't give you the opportunity to shit on your students.

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.


This is extremely different than what tc is implying dude

Patty_Fleur posted...
It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.


Ooooh. I didnt see that, Yeah tc that kind of thinking is wrong dude
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On_The_Edge
02/10/18 5:13:21 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
On_The_Edge posted...
Imagine being so authoritarian that you care if someone wears a hoodie

You have no authority as a teacher if you enforce that shit


OTE you teach fully functioning young adults

You dont teach children who are still learning social norms

Stay in your lane dude

I'm sick and tired of you people.... Every single one of you disrespects the maharajah
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R_Jackal
02/10/18 5:13:59 PM
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If it's associated with gangs, I'm with you that it was the right call. Better to teach them early that there are consequences.
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DK9292
02/10/18 5:14:33 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
DK9292 posted...
soulunison2 posted...
DK9292 posted...
GregShmedley posted...
DK9292 posted...
Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.


Yes, let kids run the class and not the adult in charge trying to be...the adult in charge.

Being the adult in charge doesn't give you the opportunity to shit on your students.

This is like at my secondary school. You had the choice of a blazer or a waterproof jacket in the school colours, but teachers would go around giving the students shit for not wearing blazers. Even though the blazer was more expensive and the waterproof was given as a cheaper alternative. It was just as TC said; they were showing the kids who were in charge. It was bullying, plain and simple, but nothing happened because they were fucking teachers and nobody DARES challenge a fucking teacher in this shithole of a country.


This is extremely different than what tc is implying dude

Patty_Fleur posted...
It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge.


Ooooh. I didnt see that, Yeah tc that kind of thinking is wrong dude

Exactly. Maybe learn what the fuck you're arguing for before you start talking down to people.

Oh wait. That's right. You're a teacher, so I'm just supposed to sit down and shut up even when you're blatantly wrong.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/10/18 5:15:19 PM
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Also, often times as a teacher you have to enforce rules that are school wide, not ones that you personally feel are necessary.

Many schools still enforce no hats in class. I personally couldn't care less, but it's not my job to basically tell my bosses to fuck off with that stupid rule.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:15:39 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
If it's associated with gangs, I'm with you that it was the right call. Better to teach them early that there are consequences.


Dont ever assume anything like that about your student, get the hood down because you want a uniform classroom
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glitteringfairy
02/10/18 5:15:59 PM
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DK is out for blood!
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Master_Bass
02/10/18 5:15:59 PM
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I'm not a teacher, and I was a well behaved kid. I always hated school because of needlessly authoritarian crap like this, though. Maybe my school was just bad, but it always annoyed me how much they felt the need to micromanage what we did.

I am sympathetic to teachers, though. My mom works in a school and she tells me what little monsters even elementary school kids can be. Some of those kids are out of control.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:16:46 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
DK is out for blood!


I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher Im not gonna prod him cuz hes not gonna listen to what I say
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/10/18 5:17:47 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
I'm not a teacher, and I was a well behaved kid. I always hated school because of needlessly authoritarian crap like this, though. Maybe my school was just bad, but it always annoyed me how much they felt the need to micromanage what we did.

I am sympathetic to teachers, though. My mom works in a school and she tells me what little monsters even elementary school kids can be. Some of those kids are out of control.


I enjoy teaching high school more. By that time if someone doesn't want to be there, you can just kick them out or they won't show up. I have more people in my classes in high school who WANT to be there versus in earlier years.

Grades 7-9 are the worst to teach.
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soulunison2
02/10/18 5:18:29 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
I'm not a teacher, and I was a well behaved kid. I always hated school because of needlessly authoritarian crap like this, though. Maybe my school was just bad, but it always annoyed me how much they felt the need to micromanage what we did.

I am sympathetic to teachers, though. My mom works in a school and she tells me what little monsters even elementary school kids can be. Some of those kids are out of control.


Like I said, the micromanaging is to make sure we keep the class rolling and smooth without hiccups, TLAC is a good source for knowing why teachers do certain things

I dont do what tc does tho I use a positive reinforcement based type of approach because I work extensively with the homeless population
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DK9292
02/10/18 5:18:41 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
I honestly have no idea why hes so pissed st teacher

...I told you why, quite fucking clearly. Because the teachers I had growing up were cowards and bullies who enforced random shit and picked on students as powerplays, and got away with it, because they were teachers. Just like TC.

But like every other teacher, if it's not what YOU want to hear, you just fucking ignore it. Funny how you whine I won't listen when you're fucking ignoring what you don't like. Fuck you.
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