o Pennsylvania Man who RAPED a 4 YEAR OLD GIRL is voted FIRE CHIEF!!!

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Full Throttle 02/11/18 8:03:06 PM #1:	Do you think this pervert should be removed? Yes No View Results A Registered SEX OFFENDER was just re-elected as volunteer FIRE CHIEF of a small 300 people Pennsylvania town and has now caused outrage but the Mayor STANDS BY HIM!! Chief Fatty Roger Gilbert Jr of Spartansburg was convicted of sexual intercourse in 2001 with 4 YEAR OLD GIRL and completed a 5-10 year sentence for "involuntary deviate sexual intercourse" The 43 y/o joined the Volunteer Fire Dept in 2010 and was recently re-elected position of fire chief for a second time, sparking outrage and an online petition to have him removed!! The victim's mother says he should NOT be in a position where he can interact with children. But Republican Mayor Ann Louise Wagner SUPPORTS him and said that she and the volunteer firefighting dept were aware of his history and of his unpaid volunteer position. She said "I support the fire department and their decision to have him as chief. The firemen have always elected their own officers and that's how it's always been done. We don't question their decisions" Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good" State police said it's up to the community to decide whether to allow sex offenders who have completed their sentences to serve in an office at the local level. This town has only 300 residents as many are still outraged over the position. Terry Sheets said "No grown man that has had intercourse with a 4 y/o should still be alive! Much less fire chief where they are looked to as a refuge from harm" Danielle Card said "Why is he even allowed to work in a profession where children are taught to trust and turn to them?!? His job should NEVER allow him to be in the vicinity of children. SICK" Reta Hull said "WTF!!! I don't care if it was 50 years ago and if the person was now 100 y/o he should never be allowed to participate in areas where he has access to children" Do you think this pedophile should be removed?. Roger - Convicted Freak http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/17/491B275900000578-5376457-image-m-30_1518368976770.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/16/491AE2E000000578-5376457-image-a-5_1518366392616.jpg Ann - Idiot http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/22/491CFB3D00000578-5376457-image-a-51_1518386997670.jpg Firehouse - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/16/491B091900000578-5376457-image-a-28_1518368081782.jpg --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. Everytime a GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:895906308] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote> Do you think this pervert should be removed? Yes No View Results A Registered SEX OFFENDER was just re-elected as volunteer FIRE CHIEF of a small 300 people Pennsylvania town and has now caused outrage but the Mayor STANDS BY HIM!! Chief Fatty Roger Gilbert Jr of Spartansburg was convicted of sexual intercourse in 2001 with 4 YEAR OLD GIRL and completed a 5-10 year sentence for "involuntary deviate sexual intercourse" The 43 y/o joined the Volunteer Fire Dept in 2010 and was recently re-elected position of fire chief for a second time, sparking outrage and an online petition to have him removed!! The victim's mother says he should NOT be in a position where he can interact with children. But Republican Mayor Ann Louise Wagner SUPPORTS him and said that she and the volunteer firefighting dept were aware of his history and of his unpaid volunteer position. She said "I support the fire department and their decision to have him as chief. The firemen have always elected their own officers and that's how it's always been done. We don't question their decisions" Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good" State police said it's up to the community to decide whether to allow sex offenders who have completed their sentences to serve in an office at the local level. This town has only 300 residents as many are still outraged over the position. Terry Sheets said "No grown man that has had intercourse with a 4 y/o should still be alive! Much less fire chief where they are looked to as a refuge from harm" Danielle Card said "Why is he even allowed to work in a profession where children are taught to trust and turn to them?!? His job should NEVER allow him to be in the vicinity of children. SICK" Reta Hull said "WTF!!! I don't care if it was 50 years ago and if the person was now 100 y/o he should never be allowed to participate in areas where he has access to children" Do you think this pedophile should be removed?. Roger - Convicted Freak http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/17/491B275900000578-5376457-image-m-30_1518368976770.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/16/491AE2E000000578-5376457-image-a-5_1518366392616.jpg Ann - Idiot http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/22/491CFB3D00000578-5376457-image-a-51_1518386997670.jpg Firehouse - http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/11/16/491B091900000578-5376457-image-a-28_1518368081782.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/11/18 8:05:01 PM #2:	You can't elect someone and then complain you elected them - ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:895906412] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>You can't elect someone and then complain you elected them - ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aHappySacka 02/11/18 8:07:07 PM #3:	Lokarin posted... ... "The firemen have always elected their own officers and that's how it's always been done." a.k.a Those firemen are pedophiles and look out for each other. --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. http://i.imgur.com/91NC0Cb.gifv <cite>aHappySacka posted [p:895906553] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>...</quote> "The firemen have always elected their own officers and that's how it's always been done." a.k.a Those firemen are pedophiles and look out for each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/11/18 10:29:30 PM #4:	So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:895914073] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowDragon548 02/11/18 10:36:23 PM #5:	Why always a goatee --- ArctheLad13 is the best PotDer ever! America>>>Watermelon>>>Master Chief <cite>ShadowDragon548 posted [p:895914408] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Why always a goatee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 02/12/18 10:44:14 AM #6:	No, but I believe he should've received a much worse initial sentence. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:895936395] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>No, but I believe he should've received a much worse initial sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FellWolf 02/12/18 11:02:36 AM #8:	Full Throttle posted... Ann - Idiot Rip Ann --- http://i.imgur.com/QzUHUGL.gif http://i.imgur.com/IJPGRfT.jpg WORK IT! ARF ARF ARF! <cite>FellWolf posted [p:895937214] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Ann - Idiot</quote> Rip Ann</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/12/18 11:06:54 AM #9:	Zangulus posted... Lokarin posted... So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place. When you worry about things you have zero control over you just worry all day and that's not a goods --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:895937426] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place.</quote> </quote> When you worry about things you have zero control over you just worry all day and that's not a goods</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FellWolf 02/12/18 11:09:49 AM #10:	Lokarin posted... Zangulus posted... Lokarin posted... So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place. When you worry about things you have zero control over you just worry all day and that's not a goods But they are worrying that a sex offender is a volunteer firefighter chief --- http://i.imgur.com/QzUHUGL.gif http://i.imgur.com/IJPGRfT.jpg WORK IT! ARF ARF ARF! <cite>FellWolf posted [p:895937552] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place.</quote> </quote> When you worry about things you have zero control over you just worry all day and that's not a goods</quote> But they are worrying that a sex offender is a volunteer firefighter chief</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 02/12/18 1:23:46 PM #11:	Republicans? Why am I not surprised? --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:895945178] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Republicans? Why am I not surprised?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 02/12/18 10:20:11 PM #13:	Zangulus posted... Lokarin posted... Zangulus posted... Lokarin posted... So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place. When you worry about things you have zero control over you just worry all day and that's not a goods You're really this oblivious? Okay. Perhaps. Explain the situation. In what way does kiddy diddling affect your ability to put out a fire? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:895976793] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>So the situation is more humourous than originally thought - they're complaining about something they had zero control over in the first place.</quote> </quote> When you worry about things you have zero control over you just worry all day and that's not a goods</quote> You're really this oblivious? Okay.</quote> Perhaps. Explain the situation. In what way does kiddy diddling affect your ability to put out a fire?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 02/12/18 11:04:46 PM #14:	Full Throttle posted... Do you think this pervert should be removed? No matter how I feel about paedophiles and rapists at least this scum bag is being used productively. What I'm saying is if something bad happens to him in a fire it's no loss. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:895979065] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think this pervert should be removed?</quote> No matter how I feel about paedophiles and rapists at least this scum bag is being used productively. What I'm saying is if something bad happens to him in a fire it's no loss.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HelIWithoutSin 02/12/18 11:11:01 PM #15:	Lokarin posted... In what way does kiddy diddling affect your ability to put out a fire? I think the question that should be asked is, "In what ways does being a kiddy diddling fire chief give you access to kids to diddle?" Other than putting out fires, firemen are also called out to medical incidents, community outreach programs and events, school functions, and host school field trips. So the answer is plenty. --- And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. -Hans Gruber <cite>HelIWithoutSin posted [p:895979418] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote> In what way does kiddy diddling affect your ability to put out a fire?</quote> I think the question that should be asked is, "In what ways does being a kiddy diddling fire chief give you access to kids to diddle?" Other than putting out fires, firemen are also called out to medical incidents, community outreach programs and events, school functions, and host school field trips. So the answer is plenty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dioxxys 02/14/18 10:06:40 PM #17:	Hows he supposed to save anyone when he cant go anywhere near children? "ahh shit that baby is on fire in there, oh well..." <cite>dioxxys posted [p:896105490] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Hows he supposed to save anyone when he cant go anywhere near children? "ahh shit that baby is on fire in there, oh well..."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/14/18 10:10:14 PM #18:	ShadowDragon548 posted... Why always a goatee Lmao --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:896105662] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShadowDragon548 posted...</cite> <quote>Why always a goatee</quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/14/18 10:15:19 PM #19:	Full Throttle posted... Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good" If people who serve their time in prisons aren't given a second chance, what's the point of releasing anybody from prison? Seriously? It's not like he's a teacher or some role where he's with kids, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:896105919] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good"</quote> If people who serve their time in prisons aren't given a second chance, what's the point of releasing anybody from prison? Seriously? It's not like he's a teacher or some role where he's with kids, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 02/14/18 10:53:11 PM #20:	Honestly, I'm all for giving people second chances in most cases. But not people who raped a baby. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:896108032] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I'm all for giving people second chances in most cases. But not people who raped a baby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FellWolf 02/15/18 12:52:42 AM #22:	Zeus posted... Full Throttle posted... Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good" If people who serve their time in prisons aren't given a second chance, what's the point of releasing anybody from prison? Seriously? It's not like he's a teacher or some role where he's with kids, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief. He can get a second chance by not being in prison and getting a job where he doesn't interact with children. --- http://i.imgur.com/QzUHUGL.gif http://i.imgur.com/IJPGRfT.jpg WORK IT! ARF ARF ARF! <cite>FellWolf posted [p:896113818] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good"</quote> If people who serve their time in prisons aren't given a second chance, what's the point of releasing anybody from prison? Seriously? It's not like he's a teacher or some role where he's with kids, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief.</quote> He can get a second chance by not being in prison and getting a job where he doesn't interact with children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
002 02/15/18 12:53:49 AM #23:	Judgement is the lords <cite>002 posted [p:896113852] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Judgement is the lords</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/15/18 12:56:11 AM #24:	Moonjay posted... Honestly, I'm all for giving people second chances in most cases. But not people who raped a baby. For real. There are some crimes so heinous that I feel like the best thing to do is temporarily omit the outlaw of cruel and unusual punishment in the US. Their punishment should be both unusual, and cruel by design. --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:896113942] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I'm all for giving people second chances in most cases. But not people who raped a baby.</quote> For real. There are some crimes so heinous that I feel like the best thing to do is temporarily omit the outlaw of cruel and unusual punishment in the US. Their punishment should be both unusual, and cruel by design.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/15/18 12:57:59 AM #25:	FellWolf posted... Zeus posted... Full Throttle posted... Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good" If people who serve their time in prisons aren't given a second chance, what's the point of releasing anybody from prison? Seriously? It's not like he's a teacher or some role where he's with kids, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief. He can get a second chance by not being in prison and getting a job where he doesn't interact with children. He doesn't interact with children, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief. The only time he might interact with them is when saving them from a burning building and that doesn't give much time to take liberties. Frankly, whatever job he has probably gives him greater access to kids, whether he's working in a store or restaurant. VioletMassacre posted... What exactly did he do to the girl and what happened to her? Calling it "intercourse" sounds a bit tame considering the age. Given the age, there's not much he could have done. If you really care, there might be a record of the case you could look into. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:896114010] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>FellWolf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Roger vows he's a "changed man" and said "That was 20 years ago. You know, the story you are telling kids is once you make a mistake, you will be punished for the rest of your life. I've changed my life for the better. Every day i get up and try to do good"</quote> If people who serve their time in prisons aren't given a second chance, what's the point of releasing anybody from prison? Seriously? It's not like he's a teacher or some role where he's with kids, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief.</quote> He can get a second chance by not being in prison and getting a job where he doesn't interact with children.</quote> He doesn't interact with children, he's a VOLUNTEER fire chief. The only time he might interact with them is when saving them from a burning building and that doesn't give much time to take liberties. Frankly, whatever job he has probably gives him greater access to kids, whether he's working in a store or restaurant. <cite>VioletMassacre posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly did he do to the girl and what happened to her? Calling it "intercourse" sounds a bit tame considering the age.</quote> Given the age, there's not much he could have done. If you really care, there might be a record of the case you could look into.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 02/15/18 1:05:40 AM #26:	What he was actually convicted of sounds like he may have used foreign objects or something. But men have fully penetrated kids that age. And it's unbelievably heinous because they can literally die from it. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:896114292] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>What he was actually convicted of sounds like he may have used foreign objects or something. But men have fully penetrated kids that age. And it's unbelievably heinous because they can literally die from it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Moonjay 02/15/18 1:34:11 AM #28:	Mead posted... Moonjay posted... Honestly, I'm all for giving people second chances in most cases. But not people who raped a baby. For real. There are some crimes so heinous that I feel like the best thing to do is temporarily omit the outlaw of cruel and unusual punishment in the US. Their punishment should be both unusual, and cruel by design. Oh yeah going back to this. Nah, I don't believe in adding more evil to evil by torturing people. A nice clean bullet through the head would sure work for me though. Or at least a life of poverty and sorrow because all of society shuns them. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:896115380] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I'm all for giving people second chances in most cases. But not people who raped a baby.</quote> For real. There are some crimes so heinous that I feel like the best thing to do is temporarily omit the outlaw of cruel and unusual punishment in the US. Their punishment should be both unusual, and cruel by design.</quote> Oh yeah going back to this. Nah, I don't believe in adding more evil to evil by torturing people. A nice clean bullet through the head would sure work for me though. Or at least a life of poverty and sorrow because all of society shuns them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/15/18 1:37:46 AM #29:	Look, assuming he was sentenced to his prescribed punishment (I didn't check) then you have to allow him to do his job or lobby for an increase in sentence. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:896115541] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Look, assuming he was sentenced to his prescribed punishment (I didn't check) then you have to allow him to do his job or lobby for an increase in sentence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Moonjay 02/15/18 1:39:53 AM #30:	He resigned anyway because of the justified outrage. Shunned. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:896115624] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>He resigned anyway because of the justified outrage. Shunned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 02/15/18 1:44:01 AM #32:	Zangulus posted... Lokarin posted... then you have to allow him to do his job So you would have him executed/life sentence, fair enough - but that's not the delegated punishment --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:896115771] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>then you have to allow him to do his job</quote> </quote> So you would have him executed/life sentence, fair enough - but that's not the delegated punishment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 02/16/18 12:49:33 AM #34:	Zangulus posted... Zeus posted... Given the age, there's not much he could have done. If you really care, there might be a record of the case you could look into. So, you're saying you don't know fuck all about what he could have done (and yes, children have been fucked to death, by literal penetration)... so saying there's not much he could have done is a complete load of shit... And I don't care if he doesn't have Much access to children. Any is too damned much for a BABY FUCKER. Given that she lived, it's pretty clear he didn't do that. And you don't know fuck all about what he actually did either, so I'm not sure why you're playing a heavy hand here. And, again, your outrage is a backhanded criticism of the entire idea of criminal reform, which is an ultra-conservative stance that would make even Ted Cruz blush. By the logic you're espousing, thieves shouldn't be allowed near other peoples' possessions and murderers should never be around another human being. It's a ridiculous standard. Moonjay posted... He resigned anyway because of the justified outrage. Shunned. Justified? Justified how, exactly? He served his time, disclosed his crime, and was in a position where he was benefiting society. If he was good at his job -- which he likely was, given that he was put in that position -- it's ludicrous to double jeopardy him for a crime where he already paid his dues. Zangulus posted... Lokarin posted... So you would have him executed/life sentence, fair enough - but that's not the delegated punishment I don't care. The failure of the system does not require my acceptance of BABY FUCKER. What failure, exactly? That the justice system in a developed nation doesn't act like a third-world nation that stones people to death for their transgressions? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:896177469] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Given the age, there's not much he could have done. If you really care, there might be a record of the case you could look into.</quote> So, you're saying you don't know fuck all about what he could have done (and yes, children have been fucked to death, by literal penetration)... so saying there's not much he could have done is a complete load of shit... And I don't care if he doesn't have Much access to children. Any is too damned much for a BABY FUCKER.</quote> Given that she lived, it's pretty clear he didn't do that. And you don't know fuck all about what he actually did either, so I'm not sure why you're playing a heavy hand here. And, again, your outrage is a backhanded criticism of the entire idea of criminal reform, which is an ultra-conservative stance that would make even Ted Cruz blush. By the logic you're espousing, thieves shouldn't be allowed near other peoples' possessions and murderers should never be around another human being. It's a ridiculous standard. <cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>He resigned anyway because of the justified outrage. Shunned.</quote> Justified? Justified how, exactly? He served his time, disclosed his crime, and was in a position where he was benefiting society. If he was good at his job -- which he likely was, given that he was put in that position -- it's ludicrous to double jeopardy him for a crime where he already paid his dues. <cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>So you would have him executed/life sentence, fair enough - but that's not the delegated punishment</quote> I don't care. The failure of the system does not require my acceptance of BABY FUCKER.</quote> What failure, exactly? That the justice system in a developed nation doesn't act like a third-world nation that stones people to death for their transgressions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 02/16/18 2:20:40 AM #35:	Thats disgusting. As I said its not a crime people take seriously or care about. --- I-I really needed this~~ Why does everyone think I like girls? <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:896180748] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Thats disgusting. As I said its not a crime people take seriously or care about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Moonjay 02/16/18 2:20:56 PM #37:	The last and obvious thing I have to say is that I don't have a problem with criminals in general getting a second chance. I can and have forgiven a lot of crimes. I do have a problem with baby rapists getting a second chance. Just baby rapists. That's my line. I'm very comfortable with that being my line. Because they raped a baby, they deserve to be shunned every time anyone finds out what they did for the rest of their lives. Because they raped a baby. --- `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe. <cite>Moonjay posted [p:896206436] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>The last and obvious thing I have to say is that I don't have a problem with criminals in general getting a second chance. I can and have forgiven a lot of crimes. I do have a problem with baby rapists getting a second chance. Just baby rapists. That's my line. I'm very comfortable with that being my line. Because they raped a baby, they deserve to be shunned every time anyone finds out what they did for the rest of their lives. Because they raped a baby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 02/16/18 3:25:57 PM #38:	Moonjay posted... The last and obvious thing I have to say is that I don't have a problem with criminals in general getting a second chance. I can and have forgiven a lot of crimes. I do have a problem with baby rapists getting a second chance. Just baby rapists. That's my line. I'm very comfortable with that being my line. Because they raped a baby, they deserve to be shunned every time anyone finds out what they did for the rest of their lives. Because they raped a baby. I dont think any rapists should just get to walk free like that. Grown women have had psychological issues for a long time after. Sometimes they struggle longer than the person is in prison. Children sometimes have a different mindset for their entire lives. Women being scared of men because of it, or having difficulty trusting men/people in general, men having a higher need to feel accepted. Or child abusers. I think people shouldnt be so silent about what is happening or has happened to them because sometimes if you are you can get help sooner and I know saying thats is technically hypocritical but I say it because of those reasons and Id rather it be better in the future --- I-I really needed this~~ Why does everyone think I like girls? <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:896210154] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>Moonjay posted...</cite> <quote>The last and obvious thing I have to say is that I don't have a problem with criminals in general getting a second chance. I can and have forgiven a lot of crimes. I do have a problem with baby rapists getting a second chance. Just baby rapists. That's my line. I'm very comfortable with that being my line. Because they raped a baby, they deserve to be shunned every time anyone finds out what they did for the rest of their lives. Because they raped a baby.</quote> I dont think any rapists should just get to walk free like that. Grown women have had psychological issues for a long time after. Sometimes they struggle longer than the person is in prison. Children sometimes have a different mindset for their entire lives. Women being scared of men because of it, or having difficulty trusting men/people in general, men having a higher need to feel accepted. Or child abusers. I think people shouldnt be so silent about what is happening or has happened to them because sometimes if you are you can get help sooner and I know saying thats is technically hypocritical but I say it because of those reasons and Id rather it be better in the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 02/16/18 3:32:27 PM #39:	Holy fuck at some of these baby rapist defenders in here. The sentencing for that is a joke. And the recidivism rate is higher than most crimes. Yes people are well within their rights to be outraged that a man that raped a baby is allowed to not only be free, but to now be in a position that will give him access to children --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:896210569] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Holy fuck at some of these baby rapist defenders in here. The sentencing for that is a joke. And the recidivism rate is higher than most crimes. Yes people are well within their rights to be outraged that a man that raped a baby is allowed to not only be free, but to now be in a position that will give him access to children</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/18/18 10:13:23 PM #40:	LittleRoyal posted... Thats disgusting. As I said its not a crime people take seriously or care about. What? Zangulus posted... This... this just explains the depths of you obtusely refusing to understand. Which is emblematic of your attitude that doesn't care about any of the facts while, at the same time, want to get rid of the justice system in favor of a tribal vengeance system. Zangulus posted... There's really no point in responding to you when you want to be this close minded about why someone would have an issue with someone that thought fucking a four year old child was acceptable at the time. Which is again arguing that ex-cons never be given a chance at reform and be forever judged on their initial crime, at which point why do you bother releasing anybody at all? And it's not so much that there's no point responding as it's a matter of you can't formulate a rational, coherent justification for your argument because it's complete horseshit and deep down you know it. Zangulus posted... No. Just no. Except that's literally what you've been advocating. Zangulus posted... I will not even begin to point out how fucking stupid comparing baby fucking to theft is. For reasons of moderation, I couldn't suggest treating other crimes in kind. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:896342868] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Thats disgusting. As I said its not a crime people take seriously or care about.</quote> What? <cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>This... this just explains the depths of you obtusely refusing to understand. </quote> Which is emblematic of your attitude that doesn't care about any of the facts while, at the same time, want to get rid of the justice system in favor of a tribal vengeance system. <cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>There's really no point in responding to you when you want to be this close minded about why someone would have an issue with someone that thought fucking a four year old child was acceptable at the time.</quote> Which is again arguing that ex-cons never be given a chance at reform and be forever judged on their initial crime, at which point why do you bother releasing anybody at all? And it's not so much that there's no point responding as it's a matter of you can't formulate a rational, coherent justification for your argument because it's complete horseshit and deep down you know it. <cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>No. Just no.</quote> Except that's literally what you've been advocating. <cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>I will not even begin to point out how fucking stupid comparing baby fucking to theft is.</quote> For reasons of moderation, I couldn't suggest treating other crimes in kind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/18/18 10:16:38 PM #41:	LittleRoyal posted... I dont think any rapists should just get to walk free like that. Grown women have had psychological issues for a long time after. Sometimes they struggle longer than the person is in prison. Given that murder victims are dead forever, why would you advocate treating one more gently than the other? If you believe that one group should be freed after serving their time and reforming, surely the other group should, too. LittleRoyal posted... Children sometimes have a different mindset for their entire lives. Women being scared of men because of it, or having difficulty trusting men/people in general, men having a higher need to feel accepted. Or child abusers. I think people shouldnt be so silent about what is happening or has happened to them because sometimes if you are you can get help sooner and I know saying thats is technically hypocritical but I say it because of those reasons and Id rather it be better in the future If the argument is trauma, shouldn't that logically be extended to bullying? Otherwise it's strange that you put more emphasis on abuse than murder. Doctor Foxx posted... Holy fuck at some of these baby rapist defenders in here. The sentencing for that is a joke. And the recidivism rate is higher than most crimes. Yes people are well within their rights to be outraged that a man that raped a baby is allowed to not only be free, but to now be in a position that will give him access to children Holy fuck at your ridiculous nonsense. And I thought you were out of touch when it came to politics. At any rate, feel free to explain how a volunteer fire chief is a "position that will give him access to children" because you guys keep parroting that utterly stupid, false complaint as if you believe that repeating a lie often enough will make it true (which, again, kinda falls into your approach to politics) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:896343059] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think any rapists should just get to walk free like that. Grown women have had psychological issues for a long time after. Sometimes they struggle longer than the person is in prison. </quote> Given that murder victims are dead forever, why would you advocate treating one more gently than the other? If you believe that one group should be freed after serving their time and reforming, surely the other group should, too. <cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Children sometimes have a different mindset for their entire lives. Women being scared of men because of it, or having difficulty trusting men/people in general, men having a higher need to feel accepted. Or child abusers. I think people shouldnt be so silent about what is happening or has happened to them because sometimes if you are you can get help sooner and I know saying thats is technically hypocritical but I say it because of those reasons and Id rather it be better in the future</quote> If the argument is trauma, shouldn't that logically be extended to bullying? Otherwise it's strange that you put more emphasis on abuse than murder. <cite>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote>Holy fuck at some of these baby rapist defenders in here. The sentencing for that is a joke. And the recidivism rate is higher than most crimes. Yes people are well within their rights to be outraged that a man that raped a baby is allowed to not only be free, but to now be in a position that will give him access to children</quote> Holy fuck at your ridiculous nonsense. And I thought you were out of touch when it came to politics. At any rate, feel free to explain how a volunteer fire chief is a "position that will give him access to children" because you guys keep parroting that utterly stupid, false complaint as if you believe that repeating a lie often enough will make it true (which, again, kinda falls into your approach to politics)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 02/19/18 12:46:53 AM #42:	Youre comparing bullying to rape. Ive takked about this issue several times on this board And Ive talked about my own experiences (only to be made fun of mostly, other than from people who understand stuff) And Ive done it enough that Im sure youve seen or could see it And I dont have the energy to do it all again To someone who defends rapists, doesnt take the crime seriously and doesnt want to, and Lives in some fake world where you act like women cant be hurt or abused because we have everything so perfect and easy Despite major abuses that most women face at least once in our lives And minor abuses that many women deal with frequently --- I-I really needed this~~ Why does everyone think I like girls? <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:896350664] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Youre comparing bullying to rape. Ive takked about this issue several times on this board And Ive talked about my own experiences (only to be made fun of mostly, other than from people who understand stuff) And Ive done it enough that Im sure youve seen or could see it And I dont have the energy to do it all again To someone who defends rapists, doesnt take the crime seriously and doesnt want to, and Lives in some fake world where you act like women cant be hurt or abused because we have everything so perfect and easy Despite major abuses that most women face at least once in our lives And minor abuses that many women deal with frequently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/19/18 1:31:59 AM #43:	LittleRoyal posted... Youre comparing bullying to rape. Your dismissive attitude seems indicative of your ignorance on the subject. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4552909/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2695751/ https://www.psycom.net/effects-of-bullying If you're talking about activities with the potential for long-term damage to the victim, it certainly qualifies. That's excluding that it's a leading cause of teen suicides and a motivating factor in many mass shootings. So yes, if you're claiming that trauma and long-term emotional duress should be considered, wouldn't it be natural to include bullying? LittleRoyal posted... Ive takked about this issue several times on this board And Ive talked about my own experiences (only to be made fun of mostly, other than from people who understand stuff) And Ive done it enough that Im sure youve seen or could see it Do you have any needles you've placed in haystacks that you'd like me to find while I'm at it? The fact that you may or may not have posted something somewhere is no guarantee that people have seen it or, for that matter, recall anything about it if they had. LittleRoyal posted... To someone who defends rapists, doesnt take the crime seriously and doesnt want to I don't think you take our justice system seriously. The man got 10 years for his crime -- and, I should note, that the US generally sentences people for far longer than other developed nations (and even some undeveloped nations) -- yet you want... what? That he be executed? 10 years is NOT a light sentence. If you think it is, I'd invite you to spent a few months in a male prison (which, by the way, is objectively worse than a female prison) and we'll see how quickly you revise that opinion. More importantly, in the 20 years since then, he hasn't re-offended. As far as criminal justice goes, that's the holy grail. However, I think you've made it pretty clear that you don't care about justice -- only vengeance. Unless the convict is horrifically killed in front of a crowd, I'm not sure that you'll be happy. LittleRoyal posted... Despite major abuses that most women face at least once in our lives And minor abuses that many women deal with frequently And this is why I can't take you seriously. You're parroting propagandized talking points. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:896352480] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Youre comparing bullying to rape. </quote> Your dismissive attitude seems indicative of your ignorance on the subject. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4552909/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2695751/ https://www.psycom.net/effects-of-bullying If you're talking about activities with the potential for long-term damage to the victim, it certainly qualifies. That's excluding that it's a leading cause of teen suicides and a motivating factor in many mass shootings. So yes, if you're claiming that trauma and long-term emotional duress should be considered, wouldn't it be natural to include bullying? <cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Ive takked about this issue several times on this board And Ive talked about my own experiences (only to be made fun of mostly, other than from people who understand stuff) And Ive done it enough that Im sure youve seen or could see it </quote> Do you have any needles you've placed in haystacks that you'd like me to find while I'm at it? The fact that you may or may not have posted something somewhere is no guarantee that people have seen it or, for that matter, recall anything about it if they had. <cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>To someone who defends rapists, doesnt take the crime seriously and doesnt want to</quote> I don't think you take our justice system seriously. The man got 10 years for his crime -- and, I should note, that the US generally sentences people for far longer than other developed nations (and even some undeveloped nations) -- yet you want... what? That he be executed? 10 years is NOT a light sentence. If you think it is, I'd invite you to spent a few months in a male prison (which, by the way, is objectively worse than a female prison) and we'll see how quickly you revise that opinion. More importantly, in the 20 years since then, he hasn't re-offended. As far as criminal justice goes, that's the holy grail. However, I think you've made it pretty clear that you don't care about justice -- only vengeance. Unless the convict is horrifically killed in front of a crowd, I'm not sure that you'll be happy. <cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Despite major abuses that most women face at least once in our lives And minor abuses that many women deal with frequently</quote> And this is why I can't take you seriously. 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LittleRoyal 02/19/18 2:01:44 AM #44:	Im not parroting propagandized points, Ive lived it and Im simply not dumb enough to think Im the only one who has. A woman can have trauma her whole life from rape, a few years in prison is hardly punishment And since the rates arent dropping, its clearly not a deterrent --- I-I really needed this~~ Why does everyone think I like girls? <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:896353453] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Im not parroting propagandized points, Ive lived it and Im simply not dumb enough to think Im the only one who has. A woman can have trauma her whole life from rape, a few years in prison is hardly punishment And since the rates arent dropping, its clearly not a deterrent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceDragon77 02/19/18 2:02:13 AM #45:	Guy did his time, came out of jail a new man, became a volunteer firefighter to try and do good in the world, worked his ass off to earn the respect of his fellow firefighters to the point where they elect him chief, and NOW people want to complain? Y'all dumbasses are just petty. You wanna complain, then you can volunteer. Oh, forgot how lazy people are... At the end of the day, you need someone who can do the job. If this guy has proven he can do it, then please shut the fuck up. --- http://i.imgur.com/xWWX5xm.jpg Thanks Fellwolf! <cite>IceDragon77 posted [p:896353471] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Guy did his time, came out of jail a new man, became a volunteer firefighter to try and do good in the world, worked his ass off to earn the respect of his fellow firefighters to the point where they elect him chief, and NOW people want to complain? Y'all dumbasses are just petty. You wanna complain, then you can volunteer. Oh, forgot how lazy people are... At the end of the day, you need someone who can do the job. If this guy has proven he can do it, then please shut the fuck up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceDragon77 02/19/18 2:24:44 AM #46:	Also what is with Americans and their weird fetish with vengeance? Jesus. --- http://i.imgur.com/xWWX5xm.jpg Thanks Fellwolf! <cite>IceDragon77 posted [p:896354179] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>Also what is with Americans and their weird fetish with vengeance? Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 02/19/18 3:52:18 AM #47:	I think what fucks me up the most is that there are many times where I've seen posted that someone with a felony, including that one guy who was mistakenly released for something he did in his teens but did indeed get his life on the right track years later, should just be disregarded by society, but people are cool with this dude. Smh --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:896356385] in 43 y/o Pen... [t:76309465]...</cite> <quote>I think what fucks me up the most is that there are many times where I've seen posted that someone with a felony, including that one guy who was mistakenly released for something he did in his teens but did indeed get his life on the right track years later, should just be disregarded by society, but people are cool with this dude. Smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > 43 y/o Pennsylvania Man who RAPED a 4 YEAR OLD GIRL is voted FIRE CHIEF!!! (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > 43 y/o Pennsylvania Man who RAPED a 4 YEAR OLD GIRL is voted FIRE CHIEF!!!