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chill02
02/13/18 11:22:16 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Did they fire all the competent voice actors or something


I read somewhere that they hired new people because the old ones were unionized
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AvantgardeAClue
02/13/18 11:22:24 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Fuck, was looking forward to this too.

But fortunately every other Dynasty Warriors game is good, so 10 should be amazing

Knowing Koei, they'll make two or three re-releases of 9, each making more and more improvements with more content before moving on to 10. I'd give it time.


So DW9 Xtreme Legends then

Good, I'll keep playing Fire Emblem Warriors in the meantime
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Banjo2553
02/13/18 11:23:04 PM
#53:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
Did they fire all the competent voice actors or something

Compare this to Fire Emblem Warriors, where everyone has their voice actors from past entries

Hell, some people said Fire Emblem Warriors had bad VA. That's pure gold compared to 9, lmao.
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smoliske
02/13/18 11:23:15 PM
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https://gamerescape.com/2018/02/13/review-dynasty-warriors-9/

it got a 7/10 from the Gamer Escape team
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AvantgardeAClue
02/13/18 11:24:04 PM
#55:


chill02 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Did they fire all the competent voice actors or something


I read somewhere that they hired new people because the old ones were unionized


http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21344

According to this it was never unionized
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AvantgardeAClue
02/13/18 11:24:36 PM
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Banjo2553 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Did they fire all the competent voice actors or something

Compare this to Fire Emblem Warriors, where everyone has their voice actors from past entries

Hell, some people said Fire Emblem Warriors had bad VA. That's pure gold compared to 9, lmao.


People aren't used to the characters talking full sentences probably
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SGT_Conti
02/13/18 11:24:44 PM
#57:


The English voice acting is so fucking godawful in this one and it doesn't even have a Mandarin dub on PC for some inexplicable reason.

Also I'm just going through Liu Bei's campaign to unlock best girl Yueying.

Alucard188 posted...
What, really? It's based on Chinese texts and figures. How can they _not_ have Chinese subs and dub? For shame, Koei Tecmo.

It's supposed to, but they fucked up the PC release. The console versions have it just fine.
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chill02
02/13/18 11:24:58 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
chill02 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Did they fire all the competent voice actors or something


I read somewhere that they hired new people because the old ones were unionized


http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21344

According to this it was never unionized


then I got nothing
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AvantgardeAClue
02/13/18 11:27:03 PM
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What the fuck

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/203126-dynasty-warriors-9/76292883

I don't recognize a single name there

Rumors are they're all local theatre actors or something

It's Andromeda all over again

Where's mah Jamison Price as Lu Bu

Man fuck this game
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I Like Toast
02/13/18 11:29:30 PM
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GeneralZhao posted...
Also, have to disagree about DW3 being the pinnacle of the series. In terms of difficulty, I'd say DW4 was pretty good. In terms of gameplay, I'd say 8

4 is my favorite personally. 8s nice. Sw4 has my favorite gameplay but the no English va bumps it down
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do_ob_tpkillr
02/13/18 11:56:19 PM
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I just heard of its release. And I heard that it sucks.

But I also heard that it plays kind of like Elder Scrolls, which sounds fun.

I don't know what to believe.
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Reis
02/14/18 12:02:53 AM
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It's pretty odd tbh because bad dubs these days are like the outliers (looking at you Xenoblade 2)

But yeah while I never really want a completely new edition, I'd welcome it if it fixes the issues this game has currently
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Bad_Mojo
02/14/18 12:07:36 AM
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SGT_Conti
02/14/18 3:59:59 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
And I saw it had a dog shit review on Steam

Part of it is some stuff like removing weapons like claws, part of it is the open world not really adding anything to the game and being kind of bland.

And I imagine a good chunk of it is the game on PC not having Chinese audio and subtitle options on PC despite KT saying on Twitter that it would on all platforms. I'm not sure how Dynasty Warriors is usually received among the Chinese audience though.
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Tyranthraxus
02/14/18 4:02:53 AM
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SGT_Conti posted...
I'm not sure how Dynasty Warriors is usually received among the Chinese audience though.

I'd figure it should be fairly popular. The Chinese love their Three Kingdoms era.
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Kelystic
02/14/18 4:02:57 AM
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heard the framerate is a disaster, will wait for a patch before getting it.
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Tyranthraxus
02/14/18 4:04:02 AM
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Kelystic posted...
heard the framerate is a disaster, will wait for a patch before getting it.

Anyway, this, essentially.

I have no issues with the stuff they cut from previous titles. I just want the performance problems fixed and I'll buy immediately.
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Kelystic
02/14/18 4:05:46 AM
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it's a shame, i was really looking forward to this game
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SGT_Conti
02/14/18 4:05:59 AM
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I didn't run through all the settings, but I think it's just a couple troublemakers like particle effects that causes my 1080 to choke.

Tyranthraxus posted...
SGT_Conti posted...
I'm not sure how Dynasty Warriors is usually received among the Chinese audience though.

I'd figure it should be fairly popular. The Chinese love their Three Kingdoms era.

Tfw Guan Yu is still worshipped
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Airhammy
02/14/18 4:07:20 AM
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Tyranthraxus
02/14/18 4:07:48 AM
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SGT_Conti posted...
Tfw Guan Yu is still worshipped

Not really worshipped, more like venerated.

Kind of like Catholic saints.
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SGT_Conti
02/14/18 4:13:32 AM
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Venerated is probably the better word, yeah. I mean, I get it, dude's a total badass and that magnificent beard is eye-catching.
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HiddenLurker
02/14/18 4:21:53 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Because it's a mostly negative game. They took all the interesting bits that made it a Dynasty Warriors game out. Unique weapons? Gone. Unique voiceovers for characters? Gone. Unique battlefields? Gone. Bland, generic open world, no frenetic action set pieces, and you fucking hunt animals for crafting parts. That isn't a Dynasty Warriors game. It's garbage.


So basically a Far Cry game?
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Dash_Harber
02/14/18 4:26:42 AM
#74:


markconigliaro posted...
Jim Sterling, a big Dynasty Warriors fan, said it was the worst Dynasty Warriors game ever made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE12Z9YJJtg


I'm not super familiar, but doesn't Jim Sterling bitch about just about everything under the sun and how things are 'ruined forever'?

Anyway, I was 'meh' even after enjoying the past eight or so games. Then I heard it was open world and I was incredibly intrigued. Now I'm actually sort of digging the idea despite the obvious issues with graphics.

I also refuse to acknowledge the complaints about poor voice acting. The games are a complete, hammy celebration of Wu-Shu film and the ridiculous voice acting fits that too a T.
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SGT_Conti
02/14/18 4:29:46 AM
#75:


Dash_Harber posted...
I'm not super familiar, but doesn't Jim Sterling bitch about just about everything under the sun and how things are 'ruined forever'?

I don't really follow the guy, but he's supposedly a super hardcore Dynasty Warriors fan. When every other reviewer slams them for repetitiveness or whatever, he'll be the one with a high score.

Which is why I'm not really sure how to take his opinion on this game. It deliberately and drastically diverges from how the previous games worked, so if he liked how they were, then it would kind of make sense that he doesn't enjoy the direction the series has taken.

Dash_Harber posted...
I also refuse to acknowledge the complaints about poor voice acting. The games are a complete, hammy celebration of Wu-Shu film and the ridiculous voice acting fits that too a T.

This one feels less hammy bad and more just straight up bad. I dunno, maybe I'm just being overly critical. I planned on playing in Mandarin anyway but the PC release goofed that up.
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Dash_Harber
02/14/18 4:32:44 AM
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SGT_Conti posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I'm not super familiar, but doesn't Jim Sterling bitch about just about everything under the sun and how things are 'ruined forever'?

I don't really follow the guy, but he's supposedly a super hardcore Dynasty Warriors fan. When every other reviewer slams them for repetitiveness or whatever, he'll be the one with a high score.

Which is why I'm not really sure how to take his opinion on this game. It deliberately and drastically diverges from how the previous games worked, so if he liked how they were, then it would kind of make sense that he doesn't enjoy the direction the series has taken.


Yeah, that was sort of my observation. Again, I'm just as much of a 'hardcore' fan, and I know one of the community's main complaints has always been the lack of willingness to try anything new or do anything different. That seems to be the exact thing they are doing.
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I Like Toast
02/14/18 8:45:08 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...

I also refuse to acknowledge the complaints about poor voice acting. The games are a complete, hammy celebration of Wu-Shu film and the ridiculous voice acting fits that too a T.

I Like Toast posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYCmap3JH9M



that's just the first cutscene i came across and it hasn't gotten better in the hourish i played last night.Dash_Harber posted...
. That seems to be the exact thing they are doing.


the community that liked DW didn't want something (this) new, the community that didn't like DW aren't going to suddenly like this iteration. The combat is more shallow as no longer does each person have their own combos, it's r1+button -> square. And the open world doesn't add anything to the game. Though if they got rid of the grapple hook it would at least make castle sieges an actual thing.

There's a few small things they could do and I could see getting fixed in XL that would turn this from bad to okay, but i hope that this is the only experiment with open world. China is simply to big to try it on and DW needs most of china to work with it's story.
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I Like Toast
02/14/18 8:59:48 AM
#79:


M_Live posted...
Is it like, different at all?


depends on what you define as different. It's open world instead of maps, it's r1+button->square instead of square (repeat 1-4 times) triangle. There's some new characters. The scale of battles due to open world is reduced, but you're still button mashing your way through chinamen to kill an officer and upgrading your hero and equipment along the way.

DW has always been a guilty pleasure, they were mindless unlockable grindfest, and i loved them for it. My initial impression of this one isn't good but i was always skeptical of the decision to make it open world as I rarely like open world games to begin with.
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Twin3Turbo
02/14/18 9:38:03 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
Even when you go back to the pinnacle of the series - Dynasty Warriors 3 - it had extremely campy dialogue and delivery. My friends and I will still randomly bust out "Zhuge Liang... THE WIND!" on occasion. That was a great game with loads of personality.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that agrees that DW3 was the pinnacle. There may be some nostalgia to it and to be fair it was the first one I played, but even beyond that, there are many objective things that I feel like they took out or did worse in basically every subsequent release that I feel objectively make them not as good. Two of the major ones being unique weapons (except in like 1 or 2 cases) and the fact that every map was different. They didn't re-use maps and call it a different battle. They re-used maps or sections of a map A LOT in DW4 and have done so to some degree in every release I've played since (I never played 7 and barely played 6 at all)

Also people have always complained about the voice acting but I've always found it funny and it never bothered me. To this day my brother and I bust out the Yuan Shao "All units..CHARGE!" line, among others. That game was great.
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Alucard188
02/14/18 11:28:56 AM
#81:


Twin3Turbo posted...
To this day my brother and I bust out the Yuan Shao "All units..CHARGE!" line, among others. That game was great.


I can still hear that in my mind. Incredible delivery.
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SGT_Conti
02/14/18 2:16:48 PM
#82:


I Like Toast posted...
that's just the first cutscene i came across and it hasn't gotten better in the hourish i played last night.

I think part of it is also there's just no good way to deliver some of these lines.
"Enough already, I can't take this anymore!"
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Kelystic
02/14/18 10:42:42 PM
#83:


who played this on the og ps4?

how is patch 1.03?
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I Like Toast
02/14/18 10:55:05 PM
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i am, i didn't play much before the patch so i'm not really sure what was in the update. i haven't had any big enough battles for performance issues. and the open world is just making it a chore since i don't have a lot of quick travel spots yet
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SGT_Conti
02/15/18 5:14:46 AM
#85:


Hey Toast, who is best Dynasty Warriors girl? I think I remember you liking Kunoichi in Samurai Warriors 4.

oh lol you used to be able to use the Chinese dub with a regedit on PC, but then they patched it and removed all the Chinese data files entirely.
https://twitter.com/KoeiTecmoUS/status/955932153052712960
Guess they forgot to specify this was a console-exclusive feature.
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I Like Toast
02/15/18 8:23:29 AM
#86:


SGT_Conti posted...
Hey Toast, who is best Dynasty Warriors girl?


lian shi, for obvious reasons. Bao Sanniang is probably the most adorable though.
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SGT_Conti
02/15/18 8:26:42 AM
#87:


I Like Toast posted...
lian shi, for obvious reasons

You went Wu first, didn't you
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I Like Toast
02/15/18 9:41:53 AM
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I did, but Because sun Jian is a bad ass
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Weezy_Tha_Don
02/15/18 7:57:22 PM
#89:


I Like Toast posted...
SGT_Conti posted...
Hey Toast, who is best Dynasty Warriors girl?


lian shi, for obvious reasons. Bao Sanniang is probably the most adorable though.


lian shi got banging tits but Ive always liked diao chan
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SGT_Conti
02/15/18 9:02:27 PM
#90:


I Like Toast posted...
I did, but Because sun Jian is a bad ass

doesnt he die at like the very start

Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
lian shi got banging tits but Ive always liked diao chan

Her DW8 appearance is hnnng
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I Like Toast
02/15/18 9:56:29 PM
#91:


SGT_Conti posted...

doesnt he die at like the very start


yeah, but it's not like he becomes unplayable

Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

lian shi got banging tits but Ive always liked diao chan

yeah she's gotten pretty good lately, zhenji too
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SSJGrimReaper
02/15/18 10:11:28 PM
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so what's the top 3 best DW games
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I Like Toast
02/15/18 10:12:43 PM
#93:


4xl,8xl,5xl, if including the other warriors, 4xl, 8xl, WO3

SW4 is fun, but i can't do no english VA
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metralo
02/15/18 10:15:12 PM
#94:


8 is a hell of a lot of fun with a ton of content

probably my personal favorite
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pokemonzero
02/15/18 10:17:37 PM
#95:


not reading but op but tc did you try the board for the game

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/203126-dynasty-warriors-9

what do you know topics made today. i find it amazing to find more topics about a game on the games boards then on a catch all board like this
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I Like Toast
02/15/18 10:22:44 PM
#96:


why on earth would i go to the hellhole of a game board on release? you might not have noticed, but the point of the topic was to talk to ce about it being a disappointment and to casually reminisce about many of our guilty pleasure of gaming franchise.
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Ben_Ruggiero
02/15/18 10:26:48 PM
#97:


It's not a disappointment. The patch fixed the framerate issue. Granted the first day I had it I thought it was a disappointment because of all the changes but the more I play it the more I enjoy it for what it is. I had to learn to basically ignore all the side quests because the rewards are useless trash and farm bandits for the rare coins to buy upgrades with. Been having a blast since I got over the initial shock
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pokemonzero
02/15/18 10:28:31 PM
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so instead you came to the hellhole that is ce?
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SGT_Conti
02/15/18 10:49:18 PM
#99:


pokemonzero posted...
not reading but op but tc did you try the board for the game

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/203126-dynasty-warriors-9

what do you know topics made today. i find it amazing to find more topics about a game on the games boards then on a catch all board like this

Warriors games have godawful game boards, but they're especially bad on or around release.

Anyway, I think my biggest complaint is how the grappling hook trivializes everything. Might have been better as some kind of consumable item because it's kind of hilarious how your whole army is trying to siege a single gate whole you climb up and assassinate an officer, causing the whole castle to surrender.
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I Like Toast
02/15/18 11:45:15 PM
#100:


SGT_Conti posted...

Anyway, I think my biggest complaint is how the grappling hook trivializes everything.


yup, it makes castle sieging pointless.

Ben_Ruggiero posted...
It's not a disappointment. The patch fixed the framerate issue


framerate issues isn't even in the top 10 of problems with the game.
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