Current Events > "Parents should never spank their kids."

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Lmfao, this type of thinking is exactly what lead to a generation of teenagers eating tide pods. They literally have never suffered any consequences for their actions and now they cannot determine what they should and shouldnot do.
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My parents beat the shit out of me when I was bad and it did nothing to deter me.
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But mah meme culture
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if something was bad, they'd face consequences naturally or if they didn't, you could explain to them what could happen. if you are hitting them, you are choosing to make that the consequence, which is not necessary

Values have definitely changed for the worse since the 90s. The last decade and a half has been awful.
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

My parents beat the shit out of me when I was bad and it did nothing to deter me.

you still eat tide pods?
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Howl posted...

Lmfao, this type of thinking is exactly what lead to a generation of teenagers eating tide pods. They literally have never suffered any consequences for their actions and now they cannot determine what they should and shouldnot do.

Agree.

scorpion41 posted...

Values have definitely changed for the worse since the 90s. The last decade and a half has been awful.

Also agree.
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TC is not wrong
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I hear some people say they don't spank because it could lead to sexual things.
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Turbam posted...

I hear some people say they don't spank because it could lead to sexual things.

Are they implying spanking their kids turns them on?
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Yes that's right

And lol at you falling for the fake news of the Tide Pods Epidemic of 2018
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

Turbam posted...

I hear some people say they don't spank because it could lead to sexual things.

Are they implying spanking their kids turns them on?

I don't know and I don't want to know :V
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beating dogs totally works too right
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https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers

AUSTIN, Texas The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.

The study, published in this months Journal of Family Psychology, looks at five decades of research involving over 160,000 children. The researchers say it is the most complete analysis to date of the outcomes associated with spanking, and more specific to the effects of spanking alone than previous papers, which included other types of physical punishment in their analyses.

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I think they think it might give the kid weird interests when they're adults

but too many cartoons probably does that too

Even though studies have shown the opposite is true, TC believes otherwise because he just knows better.

https://tinyurl.com/ya2yskqw
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The issue isn't that those parents aren't hitting their kids, the issue is that they're not parenting them period or parenting them properly. Studies have actually shown kids who are spanked are more likely to act out, develop behavioral issues, mental health issues such as depression, higher rates of domestic abusers, as well as more likely to continue the cycle by spanking their own kid.

Talk to the overwhelming majority of experts in psychology, child psychology, and child development and they'll almost all unanimously agree that spanking is an unhealthy and less effective form of parenting. Hitting your kids is lazy parenting that doesn't solve any root issue or actually teach anything.
Like it's easier than ever to punish a kid worse without laying a finger on them. Find a kid and ask if they'd rather get a spanking or have no internet access, electronics like phones and games, etc. for a weekend. Then combine that with actually discussing things with your kid, actually teaching then what they did, why it was wrong, instead of some archaic "you did thing *hit* don't do thing again" which leads to no growth or even remorse, just feeling bad they got caught or got spanked.

The issue isn't that parents are lazily just hitting their kids, the issue is they've gotten even lazier and don't do anything period.
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averagejoel posted...

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers

AUSTIN, Texas The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.

The study, published in this months Journal of Family Psychology, looks at five decades of research involving over 160,000 children. The researchers say it is the most complete analysis to date of the outcomes associated with spanking, and more specific to the effects of spanking alone than previous papers, which included other types of physical punishment in their analyses.

Slip-N-Slide posted...

The issue isn't that those parents aren't hitting their kids, the issue is that they're not parenting them period or parenting them properly. Studies have actually shown kids who are spanked are more likely to act out, develop behavioral issues, mental health issues such as depression, higher rates of domestic abusers, as well as more likely to continue the cycle by spanking their own kid.

Talk to the overwhelming majority of experts in psychology, child psychology, and child development and they'll almost all unanimously agree that spanking is an unhealthy and less effective form of parenting. Hitting your kids is lazy parenting that doesn't solve any root issue or actually teach anything.
Like it's easier than ever to punish a kid worse without laying a finger on them. Find a kid and ask if they'd rather get a spanking or have no internet access, electronics like phones and games, etc. for a weekend. Then combine that with actually discussing things with your kid, actually teaching then what they did, why it was wrong, instead of some archaic "you did thing *hit* don't do thing again" which leads to no growth or even remorse, just feeling bad they got caught or got spanked.

The issue isn't that parents are lazily just hitting their kids, the issue is they've gotten even lazier and don't do anything period.

LordRazziel posted...

Even though studies have shown the opposite is true, TC believes otherwise because he just knows better.

https://tinyurl.com/ya2yskqw

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averagejoel posted...

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers

AUSTIN, Texas The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.

The study, published in this months Journal of Family Psychology, looks at five decades of research involving over 160,000 children. The researchers say it is the most complete analysis to date of the outcomes associated with spanking, and more specific to the effects of spanking alone than previous papers, which included other types of physical punishment in their analyses.

"But I was spanked and turned out fine"
"Beating =/= spanking. They are probably confusing the two"
"Spanking done right is done with love"
"Hell, I was beaten, my childhood sucked, and I hate my father, but at least I learned how to be an adult"
"Because science has never been wrong before"
"Because scientists have never been paid off before"
"Statistics don't truly reflect reality"
"*farting noises*"
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Slip-N-Slide posted...

The issue isn't that those parents aren't hitting their kids, the issue is that they're not parenting them period or parenting them properly. Studies have actually shown kids who are spanked are more likely to act out, develop behavioral issues, mental health issues such as depression, higher rates of domestic abusers, as well as more likely to continue the cycle by spanking their own kid.

Talk to the overwhelming majority of experts in psychology, child psychology, and child development and they'll almost all unanimously agree that spanking is an unhealthy and less effective form of parenting. Hitting your kids is lazy parenting that doesn't solve any root issue or actually teach anything.
Like it's easier than ever to punish a kid worse without laying a finger on them. Find a kid and ask if they'd rather get a spanking or have no internet access, electronics like phones and games, etc. for a weekend. Then combine that with actually discussing things with your kid, actually teaching then what they did, why it was wrong, instead of some archaic "you did thing *hit* don't do thing again" which leads to no growth or even remorse, just feeling bad they got caught or got spanked.

The issue isn't that parents are lazily just hitting their kids, the issue is they've gotten even lazier and don't do anything period.

*nods*
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I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.
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hockeybub89 posted...

averagejoel posted...

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers

AUSTIN, Texas The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.

The study, published in this months Journal of Family Psychology, looks at five decades of research involving over 160,000 children. The researchers say it is the most complete analysis to date of the outcomes associated with spanking, and more specific to the effects of spanking alone than previous papers, which included other types of physical punishment in their analyses.

"But I was spanked and turned out fine"
"Beating =/= spanking. They are probably confusing the two"
"Spanking done right is done with love"
"Hell, I was beaten, my childhood sucked, and I hate my father, but at least I learned how to be an adult"
"Because science has never been wrong before"
"Because scientists have never been paid off before"
"Statistics don't truly reflect reality"
"*farting noises*"

Lol jesus
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Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

People who can't figure out how to discipline a kid without hitting them shouldn't have kids.

but you're probably just trolling anyway. this topic gets done at least once a month
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Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

Says the person advocating hitting small defenseless humans.
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"It's only good parenting if you have to use physical force to control your child"
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Howl posted...

Lmfao, this type of thinking is exactly what lead to a generation of teenagers eating tide pods. They literally have never suffered any consequences for their actions and now they cannot determine what they should and shouldnot do.

How is spanking a consequence? "Oh no geez how horrible. A little bit of trivial surface pain. I never want to experience another 30 seconds of that again so I'll be good now."
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hockeybub89 posted...

averagejoel posted...

https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers

AUSTIN, Texas The more children are spanked, the more likely they are to defy their parents and to experience increased anti-social behavior, aggression, mental health problems and cognitive difficulties, according to a new meta-analysis of 50 years of research on spanking by experts at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan.

The study, published in this months Journal of Family Psychology, looks at five decades of research involving over 160,000 children. The researchers say it is the most complete analysis to date of the outcomes associated with spanking, and more specific to the effects of spanking alone than previous papers, which included other types of physical punishment in their analyses.

"But I was spanked and turned out fine"
"Beating =/= spanking. They are probably confusing the two"
"Spanking done right is done with love"
"Hell, I was beaten, my childhood sucked, and I hate my father, but at least I learned how to be an adult"
"Because science has never been wrong before"
"Because scientists have never been paid off before"
"Statistics don't truly reflect reality"
"*farting noises*"

one time I got into an argument with someone who linked me to the study from a few years ago that said most scientific studies were inaccurate, and literally none of the criteria for finding information to be spurious applied to the spanking study
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There isnt a generation of teenagers eating tide pods. Theres a negligible amount of teenagers doing it for Internet attention.

I can assure you that spanking did not help me one bit.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Howl posted...

Lmfao, this type of thinking is exactly what lead to a generation of teenagers eating tide pods. They literally have never suffered any consequences for their actions and now they cannot determine what they should and shouldnot do.

How is spanking a consequence? "Oh no geez how horrible. A little bit of trivial surface pain. I never want to experience another 30 seconds of that again so I'll be good now."

That's why I, personally, prefer to brand my children. The marks remind them forever what it is to be a man.
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Eh, I think it depends. I don't have kids, but if I did, I would never hit them for something that was an accident or that they didn't know why it was wrong. I would try to teach them first and if I had to, punish them in other nonviolent ways instead of hitting them.

But I've seen kids who are violent ,disrespectful, don't listen to what anyone tells them, attack their parents and siblings, just generally do whatever they want, etc. At that point, what do you do? I'll admit, I'd probably hit my kid in that situation. No serious injuries of course, but I'd hit them hard enough to put them in their place and show them that they aren't in charge. Then I'd talk to them about their behavior after.

I think the problem with a lot of parents who hit their kids is that they use that as a substitute for talking to their kids. As long as its not overboard, I don't think hitting is too bad as long as you only do it when absolutely necessary and you still talk to your kid about what they did.

I don't know. I don't have kids lol

thronedfire2 posted...

Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

People who can't figure out how to discipline a kid without hitting them shouldn't have kids.

but you're probably just trolling anyway. this topic gets done at least once a month

I know how to discipline without spanking. I have a 7 year old and a baby. I've only spanked the 7 year old a few times in her life. Once was because she slapped my wife in the face. Once was because she threw a ball through her window and broke it. That's it and that was only because it was extreme situations that warranted it.
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Howl posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

People who can't figure out how to discipline a kid without hitting them shouldn't have kids.

but you're probably just trolling anyway. this topic gets done at least once a month

I know how to discipline without spanking. I have a 7 year old and a baby. I've only spanked the 7 year old a few times in her life. Once was because she slapped my wife in the face. Once was because she threw a ball through her window and broke it. That's it and that was only because it was extreme situations that warranted it.

Don't hit or I'll hit you.
Also shows hitting is a way to assert yourself.
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COVxy posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Howl posted...

Lmfao, this type of thinking is exactly what lead to a generation of teenagers eating tide pods. They literally have never suffered any consequences for their actions and now they cannot determine what they should and shouldnot do.

How is spanking a consequence? "Oh no geez how horrible. A little bit of trivial surface pain. I never want to experience another 30 seconds of that again so I'll be good now."

That's why I, personally, prefer to brand my children. The marks remind them forever what it is to be a man.

I actually prefer to not have children.
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LordRazziel posted...

Howl posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

People who can't figure out how to discipline a kid without hitting them shouldn't have kids.

but you're probably just trolling anyway. this topic gets done at least once a month

I know how to discipline without spanking. I have a 7 year old and a baby. I've only spanked the 7 year old a few times in her life. Once was because she slapped my wife in the face. Once was because she threw a ball through her window and broke it. That's it and that was only because it was extreme situations that warranted it.

Don't hit or I'll hit you.
Also shows hitting is a way to assert yourself.

That's not the message at all. The message is not to do things to hurt people or property or you will have consequences. Children are smart enough to understand this, especially when it is explained to them exactly like that.
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Nothing teaches a kid right from wrong like being hit by the grown ass humans they love, trust, and rely on

Oh wait

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768154/

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
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Howl posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Howl posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

People who can't figure out how to discipline a kid without hitting them shouldn't have kids.

but you're probably just trolling anyway. this topic gets done at least once a month

I know how to discipline without spanking. I have a 7 year old and a baby. I've only spanked the 7 year old a few times in her life. Once was because she slapped my wife in the face. Once was because she threw a ball through her window and broke it. That's it and that was only because it was extreme situations that warranted it.

Don't hit or I'll hit you.
Also shows hitting is a way to assert yourself.

That's not the message at all. The message is not to do things to hurt people or property or you will have consequences. Children are smart enough to understand this, especially when it is explained to them exactly like that.

What about all the studies that say the opposite?
Why do you know better than people with M.D.'s and PhD's that have conducted peer reviewed studies?
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TC: "Muh feelings and sentiments are more valid than systematic thought and research!"
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I'm convinced that TC literally wants to hurt children
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Soviet_Poland posted...

TC: "Muh feelings and sentiments are more valid than systematic thought and research!"

Paradoxically, people who agree with TC: FACTS over FEELINGS!
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You dont get hit for making these topics so you keep making them. Maybe youre right.
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LordMarshal posted...

You dont get hit for making these topics so you keep making them. Maybe youre right.

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Soviet_Poland posted...

TC: "Muh feelings and sentiments are more valid than systematic thought and research!"

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I always figured that good old manual labour worked great for discipline.

My parents didn't spank me, they got me to scrub the baseboards around the house with an old toothbrush. Worked wonders.

It made my discipline tedious and mind numbing first and foremost. It also taught that when you do shit wrong it takes a ton of work to balance the scales so to speak.

*shrug* I dunno.
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They literally have never suffered any consequences

So, spanking is the only thing you can do to punish your kids? Parents can dicipline their kids but schools lack dicipline also. Any kind of cursing, or bothering other students should have bigger consequences. Schools are like fucking zoo's now days. Bunch of chimpanzees screaming and throwing stuff. Bullying should lead to getting expelled.

Schools have very big responsibility to dicipline kids. They spend a lot of their time there after all.
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If your kids have gotten to the point where you have to physically abuse them in order for you to teach them a lesson, you've failed as a parent.
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Imagine being so simple minded that the only kind of punishment you can come up with for your children is an act of violence.
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LordRazziel posted...

Howl posted...

LordRazziel posted...

Howl posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

Howl posted...

I'm glad most of you will never have kids tbh.

People who can't figure out how to discipline a kid without hitting them shouldn't have kids.

but you're probably just trolling anyway. this topic gets done at least once a month

I know how to discipline without spanking. I have a 7 year old and a baby. I've only spanked the 7 year old a few times in her life. Once was because she slapped my wife in the face. Once was because she threw a ball through her window and broke it. That's it and that was only because it was extreme situations that warranted it.

Don't hit or I'll hit you.
Also shows hitting is a way to assert yourself.

That's not the message at all. The message is not to do things to hurt people or property or you will have consequences. Children are smart enough to understand this, especially when it is explained to them exactly like that.

What about all the studies that say the opposite?
Why do you know better than people with M.D.'s and PhD's that have conducted peer reviewed studies?

Can you show me even one that has been done where the parents actually explained what they were doing properly to the child at the time?
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