Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1291

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davidponte
10/27/18 8:48:56 PM
#151:


I assumed Captain Toad is just regular Toad with a hat, and picked him in my bracket because of it.

Is that not the case?
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LusterSoldier
10/27/18 8:49:10 PM
#152:


KamikazePotato posted...
Titles matter quite a bit. They're part of a character's identity.

It's not going to be a HUGE difference because it's still Captain Toad in the pic, but if the match ends up super close like it's looking it may, I'm calling foul play. Let's see what was in your bracket, Allen!!!


At least Allen had the common sense to properly label Metal Sonic yesterday, and that name had a length of 11 characters (including the space in "Metal Sonic").

The name "Captain Toad" would be only 12 characters long and a solid case can be made for listing the full name without causing any problems with how the voting form is displayed. Like, listing Ezio's full name would definitely cause problems with the voting form, but this wouldn't be a problem with Captain Toad.
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_SecretSquirrel
10/27/18 8:50:20 PM
#153:


UltimaterializerX posted...
No I mean if its close, what effect would this have? Captain Toad would be a weaker character but Toad as an option is stronger, right?

I dont think a definitive answer can be found without running a control poll with Capt. Toad as the shorthand name.

Its definitely dubious, and its not even the big example in this bracket. Rens chances of winning in a few days might depend on if he gets his Joker name or not.
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garetha200
10/27/18 8:50:31 PM
#154:


Captain Toad isn't even as long as the name of his opponent, and that one is spelled out in full. Shovel Knight also didn't reach the end of the picture, so there's more than enough room to add Captain.

I have no idea if this changes the outcome in any way though, it's just a little dumb.
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KamikazePotato
10/27/18 8:51:38 PM
#155:


Ren isn't going to get his Joker name (or pic). If he does I'll be like five times as upset as I am now, because 100% of the reason I picked Claire was under the assumption that he wouldn't.
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Keltiq
10/27/18 8:54:18 PM
#156:


KamikazePotato posted...
Of course it makes a difference. One is a very specific Toad in a specific game that most people haven't played. The other is the general Toad that has been in a million spinoffs and that people have played as a lot. Goombario from Paper Mario would be much weaker than Goomba.

Captain Toad has been in every major Mario platformer since Galaxy, as well as having his own game.
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Then00bAvenger
10/27/18 8:58:30 PM
#157:


Why did Captain Toad get into the contest over Toad anyway
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LusterSoldier
10/27/18 8:58:54 PM
#158:


garetha200 posted...
Captain Toad isn't even as long as the name of his opponent, and that one is spelled out in full. Shovel Knight also didn't reach the end of the picture, so there's more than enough room to add Captain.


After experimenting with HTML editing of the voting form, I have found that names up to 15 characters in length will definitely not reach the end of the picture. I think 15 character limit would be a good guideline for determining if a character's name should be shortened. More than 15 characters means the name should be shortened.

Only 12 characters in the bracket have a name with more than 15 characters in length.
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Samurai7
10/27/18 9:00:28 PM
#159:


Then00bAvenger posted...
Why did Captain Toad get into the contest over Toad anyway


It's possible that Allen combined their nominations
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Evillordexdeath
10/27/18 9:03:32 PM
#160:


There was a push on this board for Captain Toad in particular. I don't know what the original reasoning for choosing him over just Toad was though.
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ExThaNemesis
10/27/18 9:05:21 PM
#162:


SBAllen did such a good job with the bracket but he's basically mailed it in with everything else thus far.
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swordz9
10/27/18 9:08:39 PM
#163:


Guess I shouldnt have taken Waluigi to win a round. What a loser
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Evillordexdeath
10/27/18 9:09:49 PM
#164:


I think that Waluigi's current percentage is good compared to what you'd expect him to get naturally.

It was always a matter of whether he'd get rallied or not.
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MikeTavish
10/27/18 9:11:36 PM
#166:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I picked Aeris to win twice. Waluigi meme died ages ago.


The same can be said of DDLC. We done messed up.
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Xeybozn
10/27/18 9:12:11 PM
#167:


Did Toad get pulled from the nomination fill-in database and replaced by Captain Toad, or I am remembering that wrong?
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tennisboy213
10/27/18 9:14:25 PM
#169:


Toad's going off
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WarThaNemesis2
10/27/18 9:14:38 PM
#170:


Could you imagine Leonhart losing a contest because he picked against Squall?
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MikeTavish
10/27/18 9:19:57 PM
#172:


Waluigi cut! Let's go baby.
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garetha200
10/27/18 9:20:37 PM
#173:


UltimaterializerX posted...
So Ramza and Garrus broke the record. Frog/Liquid had it at 460. The new record is 419.

Wasn't it DKC2 vs Xenoblade already?
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ExThaNemesis
10/27/18 9:20:50 PM
#174:


Are they really rallying for Waluigi.
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LusterSoldier
10/27/18 9:22:03 PM
#175:


Division 5, Round 1

Squall Leonhart vs. Hat Kid
Registered Vote Result:
Squall Leonhart - 7037 (75.69%)
Hat Kid - 2260 (24.31%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Squall Leonhart - 7699 (76.24%)
Hat Kid - 2400 (23.76%)

Garrus Vakarian vs. Ramza Beoulve
Registered Vote Result:
Garrus Vakarian - 4610 (49.58%)
Ramza Beoulve - 4688 (50.42%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Garrus Vakarian - 5307 (52.55%)
Ramza Beoulve - 4792 (47.45%)

Metal Sonic vs. The Boss
Registered Vote Result:
Metal Sonic - 3994 (42.94%)
The Boss - 5307 (57.06%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Metal Sonic - 4492 (44.48%)
The Boss - 5607 (55.52%)

Zelda vs. Ezio Auditore da Firenze
Registered Vote Result:
Zelda - 7188 (77.27%)
Ezio Auditore da Firenze - 2114 (22.73%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Zelda - 7247 (71.75%)
Ezio Auditore da Firenze - 2853 (28.25%)

Not much difference between registered and anonymous users for Squall, but he was up against an indie game character that few people know. Zelda on the other hand had a fairly extreme split that comes close to rivaling Pikachu. Squall/Zelda is likely shaping up have an even larger split than Pikachu/Scorpion.

Ramza does better among registered users, but Garrus also had the benefit of a rally on Reddit to boost his anonymous vote percentage. It does seem like the Reddit rally for Garrus had some effect as these matches got only 47.94% of the votes from registered users (about 2% lower than normal). The rally for Ramza and Garrus probably brought in about 800 votes combined.

Extra info - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub
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_SecretSquirrel
10/27/18 9:25:15 PM
#176:


UltimaterializerX posted...
_SecretSquirrel posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
No I mean if its close, what effect would this have? Captain Toad would be a weaker character but Toad as an option is stronger, right?

I dont think a definitive answer can be found without running a control poll with Capt. Toad as the shorthand name.

Its definitely dubious, and its not even the big example in this bracket. Rens chances of winning in a few days might depend on if he gets his Joker name or not.

Wouldnt matter. Almost no one cares about Persona games even on THIS site, let alone gaming at large.

Im not expecting Joker to do anything, but there is a problem when Ive seen Persona fans not recognize Rens name.
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Safer_777
10/27/18 9:26:21 PM
#177:


This is because his name is not anywhere in the game.
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KamikazePotato
10/27/18 9:29:06 PM
#178:


Joker didn't even have a name until months after the game came out.
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armitage999
10/27/18 9:30:57 PM
#180:


Aloy came so close to a cut that update.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/27/18 9:35:10 PM
#182:


UltimaterializerX posted...
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Im not expecting Joker to do anything, but there is a problem when Ive seen Persona fans not recognize Rens name.

Persona fans are basically the democrats of these contests.


No that's Pac-Man.
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Evillordexdeath
10/27/18 9:36:33 PM
#183:


Pac-Man is Hillary Clinton specifically. He must have been nominated by a lot of Persona fans.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/27/18 9:37:10 PM
#184:


Serious question is there a Waluigi rally or something
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armitage999
10/27/18 9:37:29 PM
#185:


Evillordexdeath posted...
Pac-Man is Hillary Clinton specifically. He must have been nominated by a lot of Persona fans.


I don't think there's gonna be a popular vote that's gonna save him from a ferocious beating.

I'd say he's Walter Mondale, but Mondale likely had 10 times the chance of beating Reagan in '84 that Pac-Man does of beating Sans.
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armitage999
10/27/18 9:50:55 PM
#186:


There's a 3 vote cut for Aloy! I knew she had it in her... after three strong updates from D.Va, ay yi yi
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Whiskey_Nick
10/27/18 9:55:11 PM
#187:


Then00bAvenger posted...
Why did Captain Toad get into the contest over Toad anyway

My nomination rally

This mislabeling of Captain Toad is such a slap in the face.
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STEROLIZER
10/27/18 10:00:11 PM
#188:


tennisboy213 posted...
Toad's going off


I think you are a cheater.
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BetrayedTangy
10/27/18 10:01:24 PM
#189:


Hoping Shovel Knight keeps it close through the night, he might pull a Garrus and flip it in the morning
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LusterSoldier
10/27/18 10:05:31 PM
#191:


Here's an interesting post from Ngamer's latest topic for The Show:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77139288/911293244
I don't know if it has been pointed out but during the bracket-making period, the Persona 5 protagonist was just referenced as Ren if you picked him in later rounds. I checked the jsfiddles for the guru contest to make sure. Indeed he only appears as Ren in later rounds.

However if you look at your bracket now, it now says Joker in Round 2. So there's a chance that the name that will appear underneath the match pic will be Joker. Since that is what's currently going on with Captain Toad.

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PrinceOfKoopas
10/27/18 10:19:11 PM
#192:


UltimaterializerX posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Im not expecting Joker to do anything, but there is a problem when Ive seen Persona fans not recognize Rens name.

Persona fans are basically the democrats of these contests.


No that's Pac-Man.

That was one of the dumbest rants I've ever read. I thought my mid-2000s PCA rants were cringe.

I thought it was fantastic. :x
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AxemRedRanger
10/27/18 10:25:00 PM
#193:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5418-who-is-your-favorite-valentine

I had forgotten that this poll was a thing.

Vincent is so screwed.
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MZero11
10/27/18 10:26:26 PM
#194:


LusterSoldier posted...
Here's an interesting post from Ngamer's latest topic for The Show:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77139288/911293244
I don't know if it has been pointed out but during the bracket-making period, the Persona 5 protagonist was just referenced as Ren if you picked him in later rounds. I checked the jsfiddles for the guru contest to make sure. Indeed he only appears as Ren in later rounds.

However if you look at your bracket now, it now says Joker in Round 2. So there's a chance that the name that will appear underneath the match pic will be Joker. Since that is what's currently going on with Captain Toad.


Just noticed this and came to post. Darn you Luster/Ngamer!

There is hope for my boy now
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LusterSoldier
10/27/18 10:30:01 PM
#196:


AxemRedRanger posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5418-who-is-your-favorite-valentine

I had forgotten that this poll was a thing.

Vincent is so screwed.


I remember that poll, although the timing of the poll clearly favors a female character here.
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FlyingForever
10/27/18 10:35:25 PM
#197:


LusterSoldier posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5418-who-is-your-favorite-valentine

I had forgotten that this poll was a thing.

Vincent is so screwed.


I remember that poll, although the timing of the poll clearly favors a female character here.


We aren't all single on valentines day luster
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KanzarisKelshen
10/27/18 10:48:05 PM
#198:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You took a character that no one actually hates and compared him to the most hated woman on the planet. I could maybe approve if you were talking about Bayonetta, but only if Bayonetta ordered a stand down in Benghazi and caused the Syrian refugee crisis with "we came we saw he died HAHAHA" memes.


Nobody cares about hillary outside ameriland, j/s
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garetha200
10/27/18 10:49:49 PM
#199:


dw PrinceOfKoopas I was amused by your post
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Haste_2
10/27/18 10:51:08 PM
#200:


I'm sure this has been talked about a lot, but man, my Shovel Knight pick got robbed! If I had known that the name "Toad" was right under the image I would have never picked SK! I picked Claire Redfield over the Ren banking on the name "Ren" being used. I sure hope Ren/Claire isn't close, because if it IS close, and the name "Joker" is used, I will have been screwed over twice from a different name under the pic.

On the bright side, my spread bets are looking good at this time! Thank you Aeris, Shovel Knight, and Jill for not completely bombing
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