Poll of the Day > Bigotry expressed through video games is still bigotry.

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ComradeSeraphim 11/09/18 11:44:57 PM #1:	If you use video games as a medium for expressing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or any other kind of bigotry, then you can expect the same kind of backlash as if you had expressed that same bigotry in any other medium. Saying that something can't possibly qualify as bigotry because you chose video games as your medium of expression is like saying The Birth of a Nation (1915) isn't racist because it's just a movie. That's not how this works. Bigotry is bigotry. The medium is irrelevant. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912141247] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>If you use video games as a medium for expressing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or any other kind of bigotry, then you can expect the same kind of backlash as if you had expressed that same bigotry in any other medium. Saying that something can't possibly qualify as bigotry because you chose video games as your medium of expression is like saying The Birth of a Nation (1915) isn't racist because it's just a movie. That's not how this works. Bigotry is bigotry. The medium is irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/09/18 11:47:24 PM #2:	ComradeSeraphim posted... If you use video games as a medium for expressing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or any other kind of bigotry, then you can expect the same kind of backlash as if you had expressed that same bigotry in any other medium. Saying that something can't possibly qualify as bigotry because you chose video games as your medium of expression is like saying The Birth of a Nation (1915) isn't racist because it's just a movie. That's not how this works. Bigotry is bigotry. The medium is irrelevant. So if a developer makes a racist character that means the developer is racist? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912141334] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>If you use video games as a medium for expressing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or any other kind of bigotry, then you can expect the same kind of backlash as if you had expressed that same bigotry in any other medium. Saying that something can't possibly qualify as bigotry because you chose video games as your medium of expression is like saying The Birth of a Nation (1915) isn't racist because it's just a movie. That's not how this works. Bigotry is bigotry. The medium is irrelevant.</quote> So if a developer makes a racist character that means the developer is racist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/09/18 11:50:02 PM #3:	Revelation34 posted... So if a developer makes a racist character that means the developer is racist? Not if the racist character is a villain and the heroes condemn that character's behavior. Hitler is a character in the Wolfenstein games, but nobody would ever try to argue that Wolfenstein is pro-Nazi. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912141428] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>So if a developer makes a racist character that means the developer is racist?</quote> Not if the racist character is a villain and the heroes condemn that character's behavior. Hitler is a character in the Wolfenstein games, but nobody would ever try to argue that Wolfenstein is pro-Nazi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/09/18 11:52:38 PM #4:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Not if the racist character is a villain and the heroes condemn that character's behavior. Hitler is a character in the Wolfenstein games, but nobody would ever try to argue that Wolfenstein is pro-Nazi. So then by your logic George R. R. Martin supports incestuous relationships in real life. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912141524] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Not if the racist character is a villain and the heroes condemn that character's behavior. Hitler is a character in the Wolfenstein games, but nobody would ever try to argue that Wolfenstein is pro-Nazi.</quote> So then by your logic George R. R. Martin supports incestuous relationships in real life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/09/18 11:56:37 PM #5:	Revelation34 posted... So then by your logic George R. R. Martin supports incestuous relationships in real life. I'm pretty certain that Cersei Lannister is depicted as a villainous character. ;) --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912141676] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>So then by your logic George R. R. Martin supports incestuous relationships in real life.</quote> I'm pretty certain that Cersei Lannister is depicted as a villainous character. ;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 11/10/18 12:02:00 AM #6:	Bigotry literally means intolerance of a person because of their ideas. People use it to encompass all of racism, sexism, nationalism, but it doesn't mean that. I am bigotted. You are bigotted. Only an insane person wouldn't be bigotted. Stupid word. I wish people would stop using it. ComradeSeraphim posted... Not if the racist character is a villain and the heroes condemn that character's behavior. Hitler is a character in the Wolfenstein games, but nobody would ever try to argue that Wolfenstein is pro-Nazi. Yes, Mein Kampf is a racist book. Wolfenstein is not racist. Why did this need a topic? --- https://soundcloud.com/jamie-yello/as_a_tool <cite>Yellow posted [p:912141877] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Bigotry literally means intolerance of a person because of their ideas. People use it to encompass all of racism, sexism, nationalism, but it doesn't mean that. I am bigotted. You are bigotted. Only an insane person wouldn't be bigotted. Stupid word. I wish people would stop using it. <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Not if the racist character is a villain and the heroes condemn that character's behavior. Hitler is a character in the Wolfenstein games, but nobody would ever try to argue that Wolfenstein is pro-Nazi.</quote> Yes, Mein Kampf is a racist book. Wolfenstein is not racist. Why did this need a topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/10/18 12:02:04 AM #7:	So what are some bigoted video games --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:912141879] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>So what are some bigoted video games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 11/10/18 12:03:32 AM #8:	Mead posted... So what are some bigoted video games I want to hear this. --- https://soundcloud.com/jamie-yello/as_a_tool <cite>Yellow posted [p:912141919] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So what are some bigoted video games</quote> I want to hear this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:12:42 AM #9:	Mead posted... So what are some bigoted video games The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. When I made this topic, I was actually thinking more of players using games like Red Dead Redemption 2 to express their bigotry, even though the game itself takes the opposite stance. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912142230] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So what are some bigoted video games</quote> The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. When I made this topic, I was actually thinking more of players using games like Red Dead Redemption 2 to express their bigotry, even though the game itself takes the opposite stance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 12:14:24 AM #10:	ComradeSeraphim posted... The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. Yeah, yeah, you'ved heard of Postal and Hatred, good for you. Let's throw in Rapelay for good measure too. --- Now Playing: KHII, The Binding of Isaac, MHGU SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Mitsurugi <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912142293] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. </quote> Yeah, yeah, you'ved heard of Postal and Hatred, good for you. Let's throw in Rapelay for good measure too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cruddy_horse 11/10/18 12:14:35 AM #11:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Revelation34 posted... So then by your logic George R. R. Martin supports incestuous relationships in real life. I'm pretty certain that Cersei Lannister is depicted as a villainous character. ;) Don't think that's who he's talking about. --- equo ne credite! <cite>Cruddy_horse posted [p:912142301] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>So then by your logic George R. R. Martin supports incestuous relationships in real life.</quote> I'm pretty certain that Cersei Lannister is depicted as a villainous character. ;)</quote> Don't think that's who he's talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/10/18 12:15:05 AM #12:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Mead posted... So what are some bigoted video games The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. When I made this topic, I was actually thinking more of players using games like Red Dead Redemption 2 to express their bigotry, even though the game itself takes the opposite stance. So this doesnt really have much to do with video games then Just dont be a bigot. No need to act like games are the problem --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:912142313] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So what are some bigoted video games</quote> The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. When I made this topic, I was actually thinking more of players using games like Red Dead Redemption 2 to express their bigotry, even though the game itself takes the opposite stance.</quote> So this doesnt really have much to do with video games then Just dont be a bigot. No need to act like games are the problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:18:03 AM #13:	Mead posted... So this doesnt really have much to do with video games then Just dont be a bigot. No need to act like games are the problem I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912142422] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So this doesnt really have much to do with video games then Just dont be a bigot. No need to act like games are the problem</quote> I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/10/18 12:26:54 AM #14:	ComradeSeraphim posted... I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. Prove that they would actually do that in real life then. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912142727] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> Prove that they would actually do that in real life then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sensual_T_Rex 11/10/18 12:31:15 AM #15:	GanglyKhan posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. Yeah, yeah, you'ved heard of Postal and Hatred, good for you. Let's throw in Rapelay for good measure too. What's bigoted about Hatred? The plot of that game is that the main character hates everything and wants to die while trying to kill as many people as possible before he's killed. Sick? Ok. Twisted? Most definitely. But bigoted I disagree. --- Babylon ah mosh up the sea and fear him da Rasta mon. <cite>Sensual_T_Rex posted [p:912142889] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>The only bigoted video games I know of come from random indie developers that no one's ever heard of. </quote> Yeah, yeah, you'ved heard of Postal and Hatred, good for you. Let's throw in Rapelay for good measure too.</quote> What's bigoted about Hatred? The plot of that game is that the main character hates everything and wants to die while trying to kill as many people as possible before he's killed. Sick? Ok. Twisted? Most definitely. But bigoted I disagree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/10/18 12:39:10 AM #16:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Mead posted... So this doesnt really have much to do with video games then Just dont be a bigot. No need to act like games are the problem I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. Again thats just a person being offensive You can tell people to just not be hateful, no need to drag all of video games into it as if theyre the issue --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:912143157] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So this doesnt really have much to do with video games then Just dont be a bigot. No need to act like games are the problem</quote> I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> Again thats just a person being offensive You can tell people to just not be hateful, no need to drag all of video games into it as if theyre the issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:45:13 AM #18:	Revelation34 posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. Prove that they would actually do that in real life then. They probably wouldn't. That doesn't mean it isn't still bigoted, though. If someone drew a racist cartoon of black people being lynched, that would still be racist, even if the person who drew the cartoon never actually carried out such a lynching in real life. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912143319] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> Prove that they would actually do that in real life then.</quote> They probably wouldn't. That doesn't mean it isn't still bigoted, though. If someone drew a racist cartoon of black people being lynched, that would still be racist, even if the person who drew the cartoon never actually carried out such a lynching in real life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:46:05 AM #19:	Mead posted... Again thats just a person being offensive You can tell people to just not be hateful, no need to drag all of video games into it as if theyre the issue I didn't say video games were the issue. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912143347] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Again thats just a person being offensive You can tell people to just not be hateful, no need to drag all of video games into it as if theyre the issue</quote> I didn't say video games were the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/10/18 12:46:10 AM #20:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Revelation34 posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. Prove that they would actually do that in real life then. They probably wouldn't. That doesn't mean it isn't still bigoted, though. So what kind of NPCs are ok to attack? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:912143350] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> Prove that they would actually do that in real life then.</quote> They probably wouldn't. That doesn't mean it isn't still bigoted, though.</quote> So what kind of NPCs are ok to attack?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:48:52 AM #21:	Mead posted... So what kind of NPCs are ok to attack? It's not the type of NPC that matters, it's the message you send. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912143426] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So what kind of NPCs are ok to attack?</quote> It's not the type of NPC that matters, it's the message you send.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/10/18 12:52:33 AM #22:	ComradeSeraphim posted... They probably wouldn't. That doesn't mean it isn't still bigoted, though. If someone drew a racist cartoon of black people being lynched, that would still be racist, even if the person who drew the cartoon never actually carried out such a lynching in real life. That's not how it works. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912143537] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote> They probably wouldn't. That doesn't mean it isn't still bigoted, though. If someone drew a racist cartoon of black people being lynched, that would still be racist, even if the person who drew the cartoon never actually carried out such a lynching in real life.</quote> That's not how it works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:54:32 AM #23:	Revelation34 posted... That's not how it works. Alright then, how do you think it works? --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912143593] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>That's not how it works.</quote> Alright then, how do you think it works?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/10/18 12:54:52 AM #24:	What sparked this thread being created? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:912143603] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>What sparked this thread being created?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:57:11 AM #25:	BlackScythe0 posted... What sparked this thread being created? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=youtuber+kills+feminists+in+red+dead+redemption+2 --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912143676] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What sparked this thread being created?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=youtuber+kills+feminists+in+red+dead+redemption+2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 1:02:23 AM #26:	BlackScythe0 posted... What sparked this thread being created? Too much soy. --- Now Playing: KHII, The Binding of Isaac, MHGU SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Mitsurugi <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912143846] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What sparked this thread being created?</quote> Too much soy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joemodda 11/10/18 1:04:28 AM #27:	Are you telling me it's not okay to hate on those pointy-ear girly pompous bastards known as High Elves? I'll never forget the day they invaded --- Whatever the cost, whatever the effort! <cite>joemodda posted [p:912143903] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Are you telling me it's not okay to hate on those pointy-ear girly pompous bastards known as High Elves? I'll never forget the day they invaded</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 11/10/18 1:04:35 AM #28:	Yes more bigotry. Offend the offendables. Repeatedly. --- Help the country - hurt a SJW. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:912143906] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Yes more bigotry. Offend the offendables. Repeatedly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 11/10/18 1:05:14 AM #29:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Mead posted... So what kind of NPCs are ok to attack? It's not the type of NPC that matters, it's the message you send. You dont get to police how people play games --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:912143924] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>So what kind of NPCs are ok to attack?</quote> It's not the type of NPC that matters, it's the message you send.</quote> You dont get to police how people play games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/10/18 1:05:34 AM #30:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Alright then, how do you think it works? A person has to actually have those views in order for it to be that thing. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912143933] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Alright then, how do you think it works?</quote> A person has to actually have those views in order for it to be that thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 1:06:45 AM #31:	Mead posted... You dont get to police how people play games Yes I do. :P --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912143965] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>You dont get to police how people play games</quote> Yes I do. :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 1:08:20 AM #32:	Revelation34 posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... Alright then, how do you think it works? A person has to actually have those views in order for it to be that thing. If a person creates racist/bigoted imagery or content, then I'm pretty sure that means that person has racist/bigoted views. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912144021] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Alright then, how do you think it works?</quote> A person has to actually have those views in order for it to be that thing.</quote> If a person creates racist/bigoted imagery or content, then I'm pretty sure that means that person has racist/bigoted views.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/10/18 1:30:07 AM #33:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... What sparked this thread being created? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=youtuber+kills+feminists+in+red+dead+redemption+2 Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:912144678] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What sparked this thread being created?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=youtuber+kills+feminists+in+red+dead+redemption+2</quote> Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 1:36:03 AM #34:	BlackScythe0 posted... Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game? No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game." --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912144859] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game?</quote> No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 11/10/18 1:37:07 AM #35:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... What sparked this thread being created? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=youtuber+kills+feminists+in+red+dead+redemption+2 Rockstar's ham fisted "grit". They try to be South Park and they fail so hard. If you make everyone annoying, then I hate everyone, and the characters suck. South Park does it right because they actually have a point to make and a clever punchline, then they have the one sane character the audience relates to, Rockstar is just like "humans are shit lol" --- https://soundcloud.com/jamie-yello/as_a_tool <cite>Yellow posted [p:912144891] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What sparked this thread being created?</quote> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=youtuber+kills+feminists+in+red+dead+redemption+2</quote> Rockstar's ham fisted "grit". They try to be South Park and they fail so hard. If you make everyone annoying, then I hate everyone, and the characters suck. South Park does it right because they actually have a point to make and a clever punchline, then they have the one sane character the audience relates to, Rockstar is just like "humans are shit lol"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joemodda 11/10/18 1:51:29 AM #36:	I still want an answer. And it better have some good reasoning to back it up or I will double down on my hatred. --- Whatever the cost, whatever the effort! <cite>joemodda posted [p:912145320] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>I still want an answer. And it better have some good reasoning to back it up or I will double down on my hatred.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/10/18 2:36:24 AM #37:	ComradeSeraphim posted... No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game." Because it is just a game. That's how it works. I already showed how your logic is shit before anyway. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912146529] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game."</quote> Because it is just a game. That's how it works. I already showed how your logic is shit before anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TallTamryu 11/10/18 2:40:24 AM #38:	The comments on those videos are full of little children who hope their current/future girlfriends never find that. That's the only sad part about the whole thing. --- "Guys don't treat girls right, that's why the lesbian rate's going up" <cite>TallTamryu posted [p:912146644] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>The comments on those videos are full of little children who hope their current/future girlfriends never find that. That's the only sad part about the whole thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 11/10/18 4:39:00 AM #40:	By that logic the Bible is pro-murder, pro-abortion, pro-racism and pro-genocide --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:912149248] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>By that logic the Bible is pro-murder, pro-abortion, pro-racism and pro-genocide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keebs05 11/10/18 4:58:21 AM #41:	Thanks, TC. I needed that laugh. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:912149607] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Thanks, TC. I needed that laugh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GasMonkey 11/10/18 4:59:50 AM #42:	the views and opinnion expressed in this game are not necessarily the views or opinions expressed in this game <cite>GasMonkey posted [p:912149639] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>the views and opinnion expressed in this game are not necessarily the views or opinions expressed in this game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedPixel 11/10/18 7:21:13 AM #43:	I honestly thought this topic was going to reference the other Mr. Game and Watch racist topic. --- Working in a team is great! It always helps to have someone else to blame. <cite>RedPixel posted [p:912151927] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>I honestly thought this topic was going to reference the other Mr. Game and Watch racist topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 8:21:06 AM #44:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game? No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game." But it is just a game... I dont see the problem. Its not like we know whether or not he has those views. PyroBlade1985 posted... Mead posted... You dont get to police how people play games I, too, agree... Lokarin posted... By that logic the Bible is pro-murder, pro-abortion, pro-racism and pro-genocide Jesus killed a kid for splashing a pool of water. And another kid for bumping into him. I guess we need to ban the Bible... RedPixel posted... I honestly thought this topic was going to reference the other Mr. Game and Watch racist topic. Oh. Thats my topic... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912153097] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game?</quote> No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game."</quote> But it is just a game... I dont see the problem. Its not like we know whether or not he has those views. <cite>PyroBlade1985 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>You dont get to police how people play games</quote></quote> I, too, agree... <cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>By that logic the Bible is pro-murder, pro-abortion, pro-racism and pro-genocide</quote> Jesus killed a kid for splashing a pool of water. And another kid for bumping into him. I guess we need to ban the Bible... <cite>RedPixel posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly thought this topic was going to reference the other Mr. Game and Watch racist topic.</quote> Oh. Thats my topic...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet 11/10/18 8:29:09 AM #45:	Why do we have to get offended for other people though? Why not let the relevant people do it themselves when they actually get upset? I mean, why can't we all just mind our own business? --- https://imgur.com/eQrRxik https://imgur.com/NC8itow <cite>LeetCheet posted [p:912153285] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Why do we have to get offended for other people though? Why not let the relevant people do it themselves when they actually get upset? I mean, why can't we all just mind our own business?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 11/10/18 8:41:44 AM #46:	ComradeSeraphim posted... If you use video games as a medium for expressing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or any other kind of bigotry, then you can expect the same kind of backlash as if you had expressed that same bigotry in any other medium. Saying that something can't possibly qualify as bigotry because you chose video games as your medium of expression is like saying The Birth of a Nation (1915) isn't racist because it's just a movie. That's not how this works. Bigotry is bigotry. The medium is irrelevant. Ummm... Wow. Okay. First off; I know this is shocking but it's entirely possible to watch, even enjoy, a movie while not agreeing with its themes and the like. People are capable of separating reality from fantasy... or at least they used to be able to do so. I mean, just because you enjoyed, say, Ocean's Eleven doesn't mean you're about to run out and rob a bank; right? Or that you enjoyed Scarface... so you obviously support drug lords. It's also scientifically impossible for a creationist to enjoy Pokemon or an atheist to enjoy Dungeons and Dragons by this logic. I mean, I can't think of a single situation in which enjoying a book/movie/game/whatever means you have to approve of what's being portrayed. Do you enjoy the painting of Zeus and Leda? Does that mean you approve of women being raped by animals? It used to be that people could split reality from fantasy. I suspect a lot of the modern generation can't do that now though. That's probably why we have such a rash of politically-laden movies and things like the dumb-ass notion that protagonists have to be near-perfect or something. Because people seem to think that, because a movie/game/book said it, it's true. I bet a ton of people think that the only thing stopping Republican's from going full Handmaid's Tale is their proud liberal agenda's beating down the ignorant masses. Course the moment that someone gets concerned that things are getting Orwellian they immediately can split reality from fantasy and the people who are expressing their concerns are delusional nutjobs who can't split reality from fantasy. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:912153591] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>If you use video games as a medium for expressing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or any other kind of bigotry, then you can expect the same kind of backlash as if you had expressed that same bigotry in any other medium. Saying that something can't possibly qualify as bigotry because you chose video games as your medium of expression is like saying The Birth of a Nation (1915) isn't racist because it's just a movie. That's not how this works. Bigotry is bigotry. The medium is irrelevant.</quote> Ummm... Wow. Okay. First off; I know this is shocking but it's entirely possible to watch, even enjoy, a movie while not agreeing with its themes and the like. People are capable of separating reality from fantasy... or at least they used to be able to do so. I mean, just because you enjoyed, say, Ocean's Eleven doesn't mean you're about to run out and rob a bank; right? Or that you enjoyed Scarface... so you obviously support drug lords. It's also scientifically impossible for a creationist to enjoy Pokemon or an atheist to enjoy Dungeons and Dragons by this logic. I mean, I can't think of a single situation in which enjoying a book/movie/game/whatever means you have to approve of what's being portrayed. Do you enjoy the painting of Zeus and Leda? Does that mean you approve of women being raped by animals? It used to be that people could split reality from fantasy. I suspect a lot of the modern generation can't do that now though. That's probably why we have such a rash of politically-laden movies and things like the dumb-ass notion that protagonists have to be near-perfect or something. Because people seem to think that, because a movie/game/book said it, it's true. I bet a ton of people think that the only thing stopping Republican's from going full Handmaid's Tale is their proud liberal agenda's beating down the ignorant masses. Course the moment that someone gets concerned that things are getting Orwellian they immediately can split reality from fantasy and the people who are expressing their concerns are delusional nutjobs who can't split reality from fantasy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 10:25:43 AM #47:	Revelation34 posted... Because it is just a game. That's how it works. I already showed how your logic is shit before anyway. LinkPizza posted... But it is just a game... I dont see the problem. Its not like we know whether or not he has those views. Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that. Lokarin posted... By that logic the Bible is pro-murder, pro-abortion, pro-racism and pro-genocide Indeed it is. People really ought to stop using such a terrible book as their standard of morality. LinkPizza posted... Jesus killed a kid for splashing a pool of water. And another kid for bumping into him. I guess we need to ban the Bible... I don't remember those verses... --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912156915] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Because it is just a game. That's how it works. I already showed how your logic is shit before anyway.</quote> <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But it is just a game... I dont see the problem. Its not like we know whether or not he has those views.</quote> Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that. <cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>By that logic the Bible is pro-murder, pro-abortion, pro-racism and pro-genocide</quote> Indeed it is. People really ought to stop using such a terrible book as their standard of morality. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Jesus killed a kid for splashing a pool of water. And another kid for bumping into him. I guess we need to ban the Bible...</quote> I don't remember those verses...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 11/10/18 10:51:51 AM #48:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game? No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game." are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs? --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:912157736] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game?</quote> No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game."</quote> are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:10:14 AM #49:	Krazy_Kirby posted... are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs? Obviously not. Those things are completely different from being sexist in a video game. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912158348] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs?</quote> Obviously not. Those things are completely different from being sexist in a video game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:17:46 AM #50:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that. No it doesnt. Or do you have proof? ComradeSeraphim posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs? Obviously not. Those things are completely different from being sexist in a video game. How? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912158611] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that.</quote> No it doesnt. Or do you have proof? <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs?</quote> Obviously not. Those things are completely different from being sexist in a video game.</quote> How?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:18:57 AM #51:	Revelation34 posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. Prove that they would actually do that in real life then. That's not the point. Even if they wouldn't do it in real life, the fact that they expressed such bigotry in a game proves they have bigotted viewpoints, and that's the problem. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912158656] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> Prove that they would actually do that in real life then.</quote> That's not the point. Even if they wouldn't do it in real life, the fact that they expressed such bigotry in a game proves they have bigotted viewpoints, and that's the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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