Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1303

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KamikazePotato
11/14/18 8:16:00 PM
#101:


If you average out the last few updates of ridiculous swings, it looks vaguely normal!
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 8:17:58 PM
#102:


for the record Vincent got 59.84% on KOS-MOS in 2013

maybe she just wasn't as bad as we thought...!
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LusterSoldier
11/14/18 8:27:33 PM
#103:


KOS-MOS was very frontloaded in her first 2 matches of this contest, so she will definitely drop overnight and during the day. Ryu will look better by the end of this match.
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ShatteredElysium
11/14/18 8:29:22 PM
#104:


Oh apparently I'm 1 point off the leaderboard. Don't think I've made the leaderboard this contest. Have Tifa today. Not like it will matter though as I had Squall and Sora as division winnners.
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QJD1381
11/14/18 8:39:16 PM
#105:


Does Luigi have better odds against X or Tifa?
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imthestuntman
11/14/18 8:40:58 PM
#106:


QJD1381 posted...
Does Luigi have better odds against X or Tifa?

Probably x because of possible sff and his poor showing today making it clear he isn't on level with mega man.
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Evillordexdeath
11/14/18 8:43:12 PM
#107:


I think that the winner of this match should be the favorite against Luigi either way. I doubt either result helps him much.
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 8:43:39 PM
#108:


Yesterday's X-Stats:

Division 5

Zelda 50.00%
Squall Leonhart 36.68%
The Boss 29.30%
Garrus Vakarian 26.39%
Ramza Beoulve 26.06%
Metal Sonic 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze 24.67%
Hat Kid 17.69%

Aerith Gainsborough 50.00%
Fox McCloud 47.30%
Jill Valentine 43.42%
Waluigi 42.57%
Captain Toad 40.01%
Shovel Knight 37.95%
D. Va 26.94%
Aloy 25.36%

Division 6

Geralt 50.00%
Bayonetta 49.12%
Simon Belmont 47.81%
Pac-Man 47.09%
Ryu Hayabusa 47.06%
Rosalina 43.97%
Riku 34.97%
Sans 26.96%

Auron 50.00%
Vincent Valentine 44.20%
Sub-Zero 43.29%
Magus 42.53%
Lucina 34.56%
Shulk 32.41%
Claire Redfield 29.21%
Joker/Ren Amamiya 27.12%
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KamikazePotato
11/14/18 8:44:27 PM
#109:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3826-hyrule-division-round-3-link-vs-mega-man-x

If MMX didn't even fold completely to Link, I doubt Luigi can pull any SFF weirdness on him.
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Lopen
11/14/18 8:44:28 PM
#110:


I think Luigi has a pretty good shot against either one

X because he could win the SFF split and bury him pretty hard.
Tifa because I could buy him just being stronger than her if X is where I think he is.

I do like his chances a bit better against X but I could also see X rSFFing him so it's kinda tough either way.
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 8:45:01 PM
#111:


obviously Luigi's chances are better against the one who loses because they'd be weaker

but he doesn't get to face that one
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Lopen
11/14/18 8:46:21 PM
#112:


I guess I'd say if the margin of victory expands, which seems unlikely, I prefer Luigi vs X

If it keeps closer I prefer Luigi vs Tifa
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PoIl6177
11/14/18 8:47:56 PM
#113:


is amaterasu supposed to be this strong?
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Evillordexdeath
11/14/18 8:53:24 PM
#114:


Sephiroth has been rising in percentage fairly steadily over the past hour. He's up more than 2% from where he was at 7:35, which was about when the trend started.
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Advokaiser
11/14/18 8:53:58 PM
#115:


PoIl6177 posted...
is amaterasu supposed to be this strong?


I assume Sephiroth's horrible board vote is what's causing this.

I didn't expect her to be stronger than Captain Falcon, though.
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 8:55:19 PM
#116:


5 minute X-Stats:

Division 7

Luigi 50.00%
Frog 38.37%
Miles Tails Prower 27.46%
Master Chief 24.44%
Nathan Drake 23.76%
Miles Edgeworth 22.53%
Monokuma 18.13%
Goro Majima 15.16%

Tifa Lockhart 50.00%
Mega Man X 50.00%
Mewtwo 41.90%
Revolver Ocelot 31.59%
GlaDOS 31.44%
King Dedede 31.28%
Geno 26.81%
Isabelle 19.35%

Division 8

Sephiroth 50.00%
Amaterasu 42.06%
Lara Croft 37.93%
Captain Falcon 35.07%
Albert Wesker 29.72%
Richter Belmont 27.78%
Metal Man 24.36%
Draven 9.97%

Ryu 50.00%
KOS-MOS 39.59%
Ellie 36.07%
Aqua 33.75%
Commander Shepard 33.45%
King K. Rool 32.63%
Lloyd Irving 31.56%
Quiet 24.22%
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squexa
11/14/18 8:56:30 PM
#117:


LeonhartFour posted...
5 minute X-Stats:
Aqua 33.75%
Commander Shepard 33.45%


LOL
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Advokaiser
11/14/18 8:57:37 PM
#118:


The only thing I'm really wondering is: Why is KOS-MOS this strong?

Is she the strongest character we have from a trilogy that virtually no one has played?
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ninkendo
11/14/18 8:58:17 PM
#119:


Advokaiser posted...
The only thing I'm really wondering is: Why is KOS-MOS this strong?

Is she the strongest character we have from a trilogy that virtually no one has played?

Xenoblade 2

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Advokaiser
11/14/18 9:00:34 PM
#120:


LeonhartFour posted...
Division 8

Draven 9.97%


It took a while, but we finally managed to put him under double digits.
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im317
11/14/18 9:06:54 PM
#121:


X really needs to keep building this lead. has me worried about taking Mega Man on a run after he loses to Link.
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NowItsAngeTime
11/14/18 9:07:08 PM
#122:


Advokaiser posted...
The only thing I'm really wondering is: Why is KOS-MOS this strong?

Is she the strongest character we have from a trilogy that virtually no one has played?


I think many people have actually played it but the series has enough mixed reception to where its hard to get it in a contest

But KOSMOS has always been popular for being badass attractive robot waifu

She does some cool memorable things
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CaptainOfCrush
11/14/18 9:10:46 PM
#123:


How bad did Chloe look in her 8-pack's stats?
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 9:11:30 PM
#124:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
How bad did Chloe look in her 8-pack's stats?


15.48% on Ganondorf

too high imhotbqh
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Lopen
11/14/18 9:11:50 PM
#125:


im317 posted...
X really needs to keep building this lead. has me worried about taking Mega Man on a run after he loses to Link.


X and Mega Man aren't the same guy. No real reason to doubt Mega Man here. The theory of X = Mega Man has always been a bit of a stretch if you actually look at match results.
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CaptainOfCrush
11/14/18 9:15:37 PM
#126:


LeonhartFour posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
How bad did Chloe look in her 8-pack's stats?


15.48% on Ganondorf

too high imhotbqh

Oh man, and a good chance of going through Ganon/Link SFF. If Link 80/20s Ganon, doesn't that put her at like 6% raw?

And it would be raw indeed.
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 9:18:13 PM
#127:


Yep, Ganon getting 20% on Link would put Chloe at 6.19% on Link

still a little too high
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LordoftheMorons
11/14/18 9:19:54 PM
#128:


Ugh would have voted for Seph if it had occurred to me that I was helping Dravens xstats by voting for Ammy...!
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CaptainOfCrush
11/14/18 9:23:02 PM
#129:


There's a realistic chance that Draven still has to go through Link/Mario SFF, so he still has some ways to fall.
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CaptainOfCrush
11/14/18 9:27:36 PM
#130:


Fuck
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ShatteredElysium
11/14/18 9:28:13 PM
#131:


Is there a consensus on how this Tifa MMX match is going to fall yet?
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CaptainOfCrush
11/14/18 9:29:51 PM
#132:


Tifa looks like she's eviscerating him in Eurasia, so I think she's a definite favorite.
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Lopen
11/14/18 9:30:47 PM
#133:


Feel really good about Tifa winning, personally. X needed a good lead early to have a chance. I think the number KP set was lead of 400 before Europe wakes up and that seemed like a good conservative one to me for it to be in the air, with Tifa having the edge at a lower lead and X having the edge with a higher one.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
11/14/18 9:40:20 PM
#134:


Advokaiser posted...
The only thing I'm really wondering is: Why is KOS-MOS this strong?

Is she the strongest character we have from a trilogy that virtually no one has played?

SJWFF
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BlAcK TuRtLe
11/14/18 9:41:31 PM
#135:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Tifa looks like she's eviscerating him in Eurasia, so I think she's a definite favorite.

Everyone always says that and acts surprised when the NA vote kicks in again. Winning big in Europe only gets you so far, since only a fraction of total votes come from that area, and MMX is comfortably winning in NA.
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Team Rocket Elite
11/14/18 9:44:17 PM
#136:


While the effect of Europe is limited. A 51.5-48.5 match is exactly the kind of close match where it might matter. With that said, Mega Man fans have successfully outrallied a Pokemon in the past. Tifa likely loses if it is close at the end.
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ShatteredElysium
11/14/18 9:45:13 PM
#137:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
Tifa looks like she's eviscerating him in Eurasia, so I think she's a definite favorite.

Everyone always says that and acts surprised when the NA vote kicks in again. Winning big in Europe only gets you so far, since only a fraction of total votes come from that area, and MMX is comfortably winning in NA.


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TsunamiXXVIII
11/14/18 9:47:10 PM
#138:


LeonhartFour posted...
Yesterday's X-Stats:

Division 5

Zelda 50.00%
Squall Leonhart 36.68%
The Boss 29.30%
Garrus Vakarian 26.39%
Ramza Beoulve 26.06%
Metal Sonic 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze 24.67%
Hat Kid 17.69%

Aerith Gainsborough 50.00%
Fox McCloud 47.30%
Jill Valentine 43.42%
Waluigi 42.57%
Captain Toad 40.01%
Shovel Knight 37.95%
D. Va 26.94%
Aloy 25.36%

Division 6

Geralt 50.00%
Bayonetta 49.12%
Simon Belmont 47.81%
Pac-Man 47.09%
Ryu Hayabusa 47.06%
Rosalina 43.97%
Riku 34.97%
Sans 26.96%

Auron 50.00%
Vincent Valentine 44.20%
Sub-Zero 43.29%
Magus 42.53%
Lucina 34.56%
Shulk 32.41%
Claire Redfield 29.21%
Joker/Ren Amamiya 27.12%


So what percentage does Auron have to get for Joker > Riku?

Because honestly I still don't think Geralt is actually strong. That's probably one of the least impressive Round 4 appearances ever, on par with Scorpion 2002.
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tennisboy213
11/14/18 9:48:32 PM
#139:


getting kind of difficult for Tifa
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 9:49:22 PM
#140:


Yeah, the first several hours of the match are essentially the ASV now. You don't see much movement once you hit the traditional ASV part of the match toward the end anymore.

heck Big Boss beat Red outright with it the other day
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BlAcK TuRtLe
11/14/18 9:50:20 PM
#141:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
While the effect of Europe is limited. A 51.5-48.5 match is exactly the kind of close match where it might matter. With that said, Mega Man fans have successfully outrallied a Pokemon in the past. Tifa likely loses if it is close at the end.

What match was that?

And people extolling about how 'important' the EU vote is are just as crazy as anyone claiming the predominantly Mega Man South America vote would be.
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CaptainOfCrush
11/14/18 9:50:37 PM
#142:


It would be disappointing for Geralt's 8pack to give us all these fun matches only to get unceremoniously 65'd by Auron.
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 9:51:00 PM
#143:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
And people extolling about how 'important' the EU vote is are just as crazy as anyone claiming the predominantly Mega Man South America vote would be.


except Europe actually does contribute a notable percentage of the votes

it's how Phoenix beat Ike despite Ike dominating the match in North America
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BlAcK TuRtLe
11/14/18 9:51:23 PM
#144:


LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, the first several hours of the match are essentially the ASV now. You don't see much movement once you hit the traditional ASV part of the match toward the end anymore.

heck Big Boss beat Red outright with it the other day

I may be misremembering, and I'm far too lazy to look it up, but I seem to recall Big Boss having an abnormally balanced voting trend compared to other MGS characters. IIRC the thinking was Smash voters confusing him for Snake
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Lopen
11/14/18 9:51:32 PM
#145:


Can't wait for BlAcK TuRtLe to reach the bargaining step.
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TsunamiXXVIII
11/14/18 9:51:33 PM
#146:


Lopen posted...
im317 posted...
X really needs to keep building this lead. has me worried about taking Mega Man on a run after he loses to Link.


X and Mega Man aren't the same guy. No real reason to doubt Mega Man here. The theory of X = Mega Man has always been a bit of a stretch if you actually look at match results.


You mean the theory of Mega Man = X, right? Pretty sure that 2013 was the only contest X has been in where he technically looked weaker than MM, and that's because rally characters have no consistency and Round 2 Draven was the strongest Draven.
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Lopen
11/14/18 9:52:30 PM
#147:


X has looked weaker than Mega Man in literally every contest. People just try to explain it away with SFF.

65% on John Price never forget.
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LeonhartFour
11/14/18 9:54:48 PM
#148:


Ryu would've exposed him in 2013 if not for Draven...!

He wouldn't have won based on the opening vote, of course, but he would've pushed 46-47% on him based on trends.
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DoctorJimmy133
11/14/18 9:56:18 PM
#149:


I think the new start time ruins the trends. By beginning the match during a highly active voting period, it makes votals more frontloaded overall, so trends are weaker and the matches are less exciting.
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TsunamiXXVIII
11/14/18 9:59:31 PM
#150:


Lopen posted...
X has looked weaker than Mega Man in literally every contest. People just try to explain it away with SFF.

65% on John Price never forget.


Literally put up a better number on 2010 Link than Mega Man did on 2004 Link.

Took the combined strength of Link and Mario to do him in in 2008 when Mega Man folded to an inanimate object.

"Try to explain it away with SFF?" MMX stood up to Link almost as well as Mario did in 2010, the same Mario that got 58.38% on Mega Man two rounds earlier. The only SFFsplaining in this rivalry is people making excuses for why Mega Man consistently winds up behind X in the raw X-Stats.
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