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UnfairRepresent
11/17/18 1:34:30 PM
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A major city in China is cracking down on pet dogs, banning dog walking during the day and prohibiting many larger breeds, after a publicized fight between a dog owner and a bystander.

The new rules in Hangzhou, in eastern China, were adopted after a dog owner was filmed pushing and shoving a woman who had kicked his dog. Before the fight, surveillance footage showed a young boy hiding behind her as the dog circled them without a leash.

The harsh restrictions on dogs which hark back to anti-pet rules in earlier decades of Communist rule and reflect continuing tensions over the place of dogs in society officially took effect on Thursday. In addition to a dog walking ban from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., officials vowed to confiscate or kill dogs that were not properly licensed, fining negligent owners 5,000 to 10,000 RMB, or $720 to $1,440. Dogs found outdoors outside of the curfew would also be detained temporarily and their owners could be fined.

The city has also banned 34 vicious large breeds, including Tibetan mastiffs, German shepherds, Great Danes, Chinese rural dogs and some mixed breeds. A volunteer involved in animal adoptions said this could make it difficult for dog owners who have already rescued large dogs.

Hangzhous animal rights volunteers said that they had seen dogs of all sizes being confiscated this week. Thousands have also commented on a post on Weibo, a popular social media platform, from the International Olympic Committee to debate Hangzhous fitness to host the 2022 Asian Games in light of its treatment of dogs.

Videos of uniformed city law enforcers beating dogs with metal poles have circulated widely on Chinese social media and chat groups. But the authenticity of the videos could not be verified, as similar crackdowns have occurred in other cities in the past, and it is unclear when the videos were filmed. Before the recent wave of viral videos appeared, a district in Hangzhou released a statement asking the public not to believe rumors pertaining to dogs and its law enforcement, adding that they had reported the malicious spreading of rumors to the public security agency.

China has a history of using dogs to make aggressive political statements. Dogs were branded as political enemies in the 1940s for revealing the movements of Communist fighters who resisted Japanese colonizers by nightfall. For decades, they were derided as bourgeois house pets that wasted scarce resources. Sometimes, dogs were openly beaten on streets as an act of aggression.

Though many dog restrictions were gradually loosened after Chinas economic reforms in the 1980s, some officials, cats and others have remained hostile.

Qin Xiaona, the director of the Capital Animal Welfare Association and a longtime animal rights campaigner, said that a deeply held fear of dogs revealed a society full of insecurity. There is a lack of empathy for dogs, and also a lack of trust between humans, she said, calling Hangzhous new restrictions regressive, lazy and inhumane.

Irene Feng, Animal Asias director of cat and dog welfare, said that friction between dog owners and fearful city dwellers would dwindle when civilized dog-owning habits are practiced, such as walking dogs on leashes and cleaning up after them.

To manage city dogs, you need to manage their owners well. This is a stance many urban departments can already understand, she said, saying that she hoped that Hangzhou would lift its restrictions on its dogs as other cities had done.


Full ARticle: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/world/asia/china-dog-hangzhou.html
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What would you do if a girl kicked your dog?
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Sayoria
11/17/18 1:36:20 PM
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And China is all like "Do you see people in America walking their hamburgers? Didn't think so."
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/17/18 1:40:30 PM
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Sayoria posted...
And China is all like "Do you see people in America walking their hamburgers? Didn't think so."


lmao
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frozenshock
11/17/18 1:52:38 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
What would you do if a girl kicked your dog?


Call the police?

I mean, what else is there to do?
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UnfairRepresent
11/17/18 1:54:50 PM
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frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
What would you do if a girl kicked your dog?


Call the police?

I mean, what else is there to do?

Well this guy shoved her around like the new boy in prison.
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frozenshock
11/17/18 1:58:22 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well this guy shoved her around like the new boy in prison.


Obviously that was the wrong thing to do.
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Benjamin_Sisko
11/17/18 5:43:04 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
What would you do if a girl kicked your dog?

suplex that broad
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Zikten
11/17/18 5:46:04 PM
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This makes me mad
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codey
11/17/18 5:50:41 PM
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Where's the video? If the dog wasn't on a leash and was circling her and her child, she had every right to kick it.

Still, the law is ridiculous. What other culture in history has been anti-dog?
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marc55
11/17/18 5:50:43 PM
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i was surprised to see great danes on the list
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ModLogic
11/17/18 5:56:16 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
What is it with China and animal abuse?

what country shot harambe again? could you please remind me?
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UnfairRepresent
11/17/18 6:20:12 PM
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marc55 posted...
i was surprised to see great danes on the list

they are huge
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marc55
11/17/18 6:24:35 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
marc55 posted...
i was surprised to see great danes on the list

they are huge

but its one of those races known for being friendly
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TheRealDill2000
11/17/18 6:28:25 PM
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This is definitely a good idea from the city. First step in keeping the public safe.
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Lorenzo_2003
11/17/18 8:10:09 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
What is it with China and animal abuse?


Im sure there are many exceptions, but a lot of Chinese and Taiwanese I personally know (no, not American Chinese) consider almost all animals as food or, uncommonly, as pets, but pets dont have the same meaning as pets in the US. An American saying, Heres a pic of my daughter and her sister could factually mean Heres a pic of my actual daughter and my dog that I treat as a human baby that I kiss on the lips and buy or sew personalized clothes for.
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_MorningStar
11/17/18 8:14:11 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Heres a pic of my actual daughter and my dog that I treat as a human baby that I kiss on the lips and buy or sew personalized clothes for.

That escalated quickly.
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AvantgardeAClue
11/17/18 8:18:36 PM
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Hot take

The dog kicking lady works for the Chinese secret police and did it to initiate this new law
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Lorenzo_2003
11/17/18 8:19:15 PM
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_MorningStar posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Heres a pic of my actual daughter and my dog that I treat as a human baby that I kiss on the lips and buy or sew personalized clothes for.

That escalated quickly.


Go to reddit. Its common. Now, whether thats good, bad, or whatever is up to you. Its not my thing, though.
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hockeybub89
11/17/18 8:19:26 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/17/18 11:16:08 PM
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China proves once again to be ignorant and cruel to pets.
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 3:11:41 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
_MorningStar posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Heres a pic of my actual daughter and my dog that I treat as a human baby that I kiss on the lips and buy or sew personalized clothes for.

That escalated quickly.


Go to reddit. Its common. Now, whether thats good, bad, or whatever is up to you. Its not my thing, though.

I really don't like people who make dogs wear clothes

The dog doesn't understand or care about the clothes. It's just humans
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kingdrake2
11/18/18 3:14:10 AM
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marc55 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
marc55 posted...
i was surprised to see great danes on the list

they are huge

but its one of those races known for being friendly


the biggest dogs tend to be the most friendly.
only regret about a great dane it lives at best 8 years they don't have a long lifespan.
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SauI_Goodman
11/18/18 3:15:58 AM
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codey posted...
Where's the video? If the dog wasn't on a leash and was circling her and her child, she had every right to kick it.

Still, the law is ridiculous. What other culture in history has been anti-dog?

South Korea is notorious for their treatment of dogs. Lots of South American countries as well don't treat their dogs good. I've never had the heart to look it up but apparently there are videos of skinning a dog alive.
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kingdrake2
11/18/18 3:18:57 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
codey posted...
Where's the video? If the dog wasn't on a leash and was circling her and her child, she had every right to kick it.

Still, the law is ridiculous. What other culture in history has been anti-dog?

South Korea is notorious for their treatment of dogs. Lots of South American countries as well don't treat their dogs good. I've never had the heart to look it up but apparently there are videos of skinning a dog alive.


there's not very many country's that treat a dog well :(. other than japan, US, europe and canada.
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Gheb
11/18/18 3:36:36 AM
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The law is ridiculous, but dog owners shouldn't be surprised if a person physically responds to a strange dog circling or jumping them. It doesn't matter if your dog is super friendly and great with people, the stranger it is bothering doesn't know that.

If your dog is in public it needs to be on a leash.
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HighOnSolar
11/18/18 3:47:17 AM
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Benjamin_Sisko posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
What would you do if a girl kicked your dog?

suplex that broad and her child, then teach my dog how to suplex and let him do the same

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ModLogic
11/18/18 5:24:13 AM
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Gheb posted...
The law is ridiculous, but dog owners shouldn't be surprised if a person physically responds to a strange dog circling or jumping them. It doesn't matter if your dog is super friendly and great with people, the stranger it is bothering doesn't know that.

If your dog is in public it needs to be on a leash.

this.
fucking dog owners need to get it through their thick heads. not everyone likes dogs. keep your mutt leashed in public.
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gmanthebest
11/18/18 5:52:44 AM
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She wouldn't have a chance to kick my dog because I'd be smart enough to keep him on a leash.
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 5:54:55 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
She wouldn't have a chance to kick my dog because I'd be smart enough to keep him on a leash.

What if it got off the leash?

What if you dropped the leash?

like a big hornet stung you unexpectedly and went "Whoawaoh!? ow!" and sprung your hand back?
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Solid Sonic
11/18/18 6:21:52 AM
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This seems a little...backwards.
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11/18/18 6:24:51 AM
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Cobra1010
11/18/18 6:56:15 AM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
What is it with China and animal abuse?


News media and people like TC wants you to dislike China. You speak as if animal abuse dont happen in US.

Bad stuff happens all over the world. But pick any isolated negative news in China, the English readers automatically assumes its the whole country.

The reverse would be like, 'Ohhh see that white woman who defecated on the floor and threw it at the cafe staff. All US women must be like that.'
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marc55
11/18/18 9:18:03 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
What is it with China and animal abuse?


News media and people like TC wants you to dislike China. You speak as if animal abuse dont happen in US.

Bad stuff happens all over the world. But pick any isolated negative news in China, the English readers automatically assumes its the whole country.

but supported by the government ?
Videos of uniformed city law enforcers beating dogs with metal poles have circulated widely on Chinese social media


and if you wanted to use an US example .....maybe you shouldve used police r racial profiling / brutality
it would ve been closer to the article
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Cobra1010
11/18/18 9:20:50 AM
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marc55 posted...
Cobra1010 posted...
Ex-Kefiroth posted...
What is it with China and animal abuse?


News media and people like TC wants you to dislike China. You speak as if animal abuse dont happen in US.

Bad stuff happens all over the world. But pick any isolated negative news in China, the English readers automatically assumes its the whole country.

but supported by the government ?
Videos of uniformed city law enforcers beating dogs with metal poles have circulated widely on Chinese social media


and if you wanted to use an US example .....maybe you shouldve used police r racial profiling / brutality
it would ve been closer to the article


Nah im from Britain. And im brought up well. I dont talk shit about other countries. Or anyone.
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Ricemills
11/18/18 9:21:11 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The new rules in Hangzhou, in eastern China, were adopted after a dog owner was filmed pushing and shoving a woman who had kicked his dog. Before the fight, surveillance footage showed a young boy hiding behind her as the dog circled them without a leash.


topic title didn't include the important factor.
but hey, what can i expect from a discount duckbear?
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MarqueeSeries
11/18/18 9:29:28 AM
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Only beta cucks are afraid of dogs
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marc55
11/18/18 10:49:22 AM
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Ricemills posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
The new rules in Hangzhou, in eastern China, were adopted after a dog owner was filmed pushing and shoving a woman who had kicked his dog. Before the fight, surveillance footage showed a young boy hiding behind her as the dog circled them without a leash.


topic title didn't include the important factor.
but hey, what can i expect from a discount duckbear?

not sure it was a big factor for the law
because the law bans dog walking which doenst make any sense they couldve just increased the fines for walking without a leash

and the dog didnt bite her so it wasnt agressive
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Gheb
11/18/18 11:04:13 AM
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marc55 posted...
and the dog didnt bite her so it wasnt agressive


People are supposed to wait for the strange, circling animal to actually bite before they can protect themselves or their children?
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 12:21:54 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...


News media and people like TC wants you to dislike China. You speak as if animal abuse dont happen in US


What the fuck are you babbling about?


Bad stuff happens all over the world. But pick any isolated negative news in China, the English readers automatically assumes its the whole country.


Wut,

The second word of the topic title is literally "City"

And then in the article they point out other parts of China doing the same thing.

Not only are you wrong, but you're wrong on two levels. That's impressively sad.

The reverse would be like, 'Ohhh see that white woman who defecated on the floor and threw it at the cafe staff. All US women must be like that.'


If a US City banned white women being allowed in Cafes because they threw their shit around you'd have an argument but that hasn't happened.
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Darklit_Minuet
11/18/18 12:26:29 PM
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frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well this guy shoved her around like the new boy in prison.


Obviously that was the wrong thing to do.

I disagree
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 12:28:35 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well this guy shoved her around like the new boy in prison.


Obviously that was the wrong thing to do.

I disagree

Says man who defends Trayvon Martin.
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Darklit_Minuet
11/18/18 12:31:04 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
frozenshock posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well this guy shoved her around like the new boy in prison.


Obviously that was the wrong thing to do.

I disagree

Says man who defends Trayvon Martin.

I have never defended Trayvon. Just complained about his killer
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kingdrake2
11/18/18 12:31:26 PM
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zimmerman shouldn't of followed trayvon, trayvon shouldn't of tried to attack zimmerman both at fault.
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 12:44:38 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
zimmerman shouldn't of followed trayvon, trayvon shouldn't of tried to attack zimmerman both at fault.

"You walked down a public street."
"You assaulted a man and attempted to murder him."

"You're both at fault"

Jesus Christ v_v

Reminds me of South Park where the prinicpal makes Cartman and Kyle both apologize to each other after Cartman gives Kyle aids
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ModLogic
11/18/18 2:43:04 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
zimmerman shouldn't of followed trayvon, trayvon shouldn't of tried to attack zimmerman both at fault.

um no. if you feel threatened someone is stalking you, you call the cops. not go out and physically assault them.
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Darklit_Minuet
11/18/18 3:02:04 PM
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ModLogic posted...
you call the cops

You do realize that this happened in the US, right?

I wouldn't recommend someone in the US call the police for any reason, especially if they're black.
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