Board 8 > Zelda vs. Snake

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This match will pretty match make or break your second chance bracket.

Snake is being overly underestimated. I know Kojima leaving Konami has sort of crushed the spirit of Snake but When those pictures come up it will be the same old Snake we know

I'd say the Mega Man Pikachu is the closest one to call.

Every Match bar the first one will be below 60/40 in my opinion. I can see some really close ones.
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I'm inclined to think that there was something 'anomalous' about the Zelda/Squall match and that she isn't as strong as it suggests. The fact that Aeris outdid his percentage is part of the reason for that. MGS has kind of looked like crap but I think Snake can still pull it off. I don't think I'll take him over Mario or Samus though.

Snake. I want to pick Zelda so much here but I just think it's an overreaction. Unless Snake gets trolled with a sprite pic he should be okay here I think.
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Snake is still the number 3 or 2 character on this site regardless of whatever happened since the last contest.
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I have Snake going all the way to Link, and by golly I'm sticking to that.
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...

Snake is still the number 3 or 2 character on this site regardless of whatever happened since the last contest.

Nah he's not. I mean he was when he got 46.5% on Link but that was down to respect he had going for him having put on an early fight against Draven and David Hayter trying to rally for him.

Snake just isnt there anymore. I'd say he's #3 on this site or was back then possibly #2 but Now he's not even top 5. But he's still strong enough to ease past Zelda. Who is being massively overrated.
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It could easily be Zelda but I'm going with Snake

I kinda want to pick Zelda in the losers rematch though
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Snake will smoke her, book it.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Every Match bar the first one will be below 60/40 in my opinion. I can see some really close ones.

I can't see Cloud/Alucard being within 60/40.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

I'd say the Mega Man Pikachu is the closest one to call.

Pikachu needed to smoke Zero to have a shot at Mega Man, and it wasn't even an Ulti-standards 57-43 "blowout."

Crono/Bowser and Mario/Sephiroth are the only ones that I'm even remotely debating in the first round, and I'm pretty solid on both of those as it is.
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yeah Cloud probably breaks 60 on Alucard. Mario might also against Samus and/or Zelda.
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Xuxon posted...

yeah Cloud probably breaks 60 on Alucard. Mario might also against Samus and/or Zelda.

Im talking first round only. Obviously Link is going to 60-40+ everyone bar cloud crono and snake most likely.

Mario Zelda is an interesting one. Mario samus yeah. Samus is Marioa bitch. Zelda Im not so sure.
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Captain_Sorzo posted...

I have Snake going all the way to Link, and by golly I'm sticking to that.

Hes number 7 at best.

Definitely behind Link, the Nintendo duo, Cloud, Crono and MegaMan....

Hes ahead of Sonic and Seph...

But hes losing to Zelda in a week so none of that really matters now does it.

Zelda puts up 54 easy.

At this moment, she is far more likely the #2 than Snake is...

Its really unfortunate Ganondorf got Link, hed straight up beat some of the NN. Zelda however isnt stuck with a god.... I look forward to watching you all bitch about ZAW...

lol zelda beat solid snake? fuck no.
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FinaIFantasy posted...

Captain_Sorzo posted...

I have Snake going all the way to Link, and by golly I'm sticking to that.

Hes number 7 at best.

Definitely behind Link, the Nintendo duo, Cloud, Crono and MegaMan....

Hes ahead of Sonic and Seph...

But hes losing to Zelda in a week so none of that really matters now does it.

Zelda puts up 54 easy.

At this moment, she is far more likely the #2 than Snake is...

Its really unfortunate Ganondorf got Link, hed straight up beat some of the NN. Zelda however isnt stuck with a god.... I look forward to watching you all bitch about ZAW...

On what planet is mega man ahead of snake?

Also underlevelled....Believe me. There are some debatable matches even I admit this one between snake and Zelda might be

But Crono Bowser wont be. It will be the 2nd biggest margin of victory behind link ganon.

People will see how strong Crono really is with these low votals. Hell shock people.
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spoilers that's MWC
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Megaman would be lucky to even be n9 now after tifa beat x whos in the past done better.
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SlugSh0t posted...

Megaman would be lucky to even be n9 now after tifa beat x whos in the past done better.

Nah I think MM is safe. Hes had some games recently and well received ones.

Sonic is the one Im questioning.

Snake has had a past where hes looked True Elite. 2008 2010 and 2013.

Whatever his popularity is now hes had a history of being in finals and semi finals. I cant say the same for sonic or mega man. Theyre easily the two weakest N9s but Ill give MM a pass due to his recent well received games.
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Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

Megaman would be lucky to even be n9 now after tifa beat x whos in the past done better.

Nah I think MM is safe. Hes had some games recently and well received ones.

Sonic is the one Im questioning.

Snake has had a past where hes looked True Elite. 2008 2010 and 2013.

Whatever his popularity is now hes had a history of being in finals and semi finals. I cant say the same for sonic or mega man. Theyre easily the two weakest N9s but Ill give MM a pass due to his recent well received games.

I do think theyre the two weakest but I cant shake the fact that mmx has usually seemed stronger. according to the 2013 xstats sonic and mm are dead even with megaman barely winning. same as it was in 2k5. I have to say sonic has really never declined. He almost beat samus in 2k2 but it was before prime and her boost. Since then hes beat bowser kirby tifa vincent crono etc. MM has declined a bit in comparison.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

FinaIFantasy posted...

Captain_Sorzo posted...

I have Snake going all the way to Link, and by golly I'm sticking to that.

Hes number 7 at best.

Definitely behind Link, the Nintendo duo, Cloud, Crono and MegaMan....

Hes ahead of Sonic and Seph...

But hes losing to Zelda in a week so none of that really matters now does it.

Zelda puts up 54 easy.

At this moment, she is far more likely the #2 than Snake is...

Its really unfortunate Ganondorf got Link, hed straight up beat some of the NN. Zelda however isnt stuck with a god.... I look forward to watching you all bitch about ZAW...

On what planet is mega man ahead of snake?

Also underlevelled....Believe me. There are some debatable matches even I admit this one between snake and Zelda might be

But Crono Bowser wont be. It will be the 2nd biggest margin of victory behind link ganon.

People will see how strong Crono really is with these low votals. Hell shock people.

The planet where MGS is utter trash right now and MM has looked great.

The losses being to vote stuffing and Pikachu who himself is way stronger than anything Snake could dream of mustering.

But its cool. Youll probably still stupidly deny this after Zelda crushes him....

She was a LINK PROXY!!!!!

There is no way anything non Zelda on this site would beat Snake, ban all Zelda

SlugSh0t posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

Megaman would be lucky to even be n9 now after tifa beat x whos in the past done better.

Nah I think MM is safe. Hes had some games recently and well received ones.

Sonic is the one Im questioning.

Snake has had a past where hes looked True Elite. 2008 2010 and 2013.

Whatever his popularity is now hes had a history of being in finals and semi finals. I cant say the same for sonic or mega man. Theyre easily the two weakest N9s but Ill give MM a pass due to his recent well received games.

I do think theyre the two weakest but I cant shake the fact that mmx has usually seemed stronger. according to the 2013 xstats sonic and mm are dead even with megaman barely winning. same as it was in 2k5. I have to say sonic has really never declined. He almost beat samus in 2k2 but it was before prime and her boost. Since then hes beat bowser kirby tifa vincent crono etc. MM has declined a bit in comparison.

Samus chested. Sonic was stronger in 02.

FinaIFantasy posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

FinaIFantasy posted...

Captain_Sorzo posted...

I have Snake going all the way to Link, and by golly I'm sticking to that.

Hes number 7 at best.

Definitely behind Link, the Nintendo duo, Cloud, Crono and MegaMan....

Hes ahead of Sonic and Seph...

But hes losing to Zelda in a week so none of that really matters now does it.

Zelda puts up 54 easy.

At this moment, she is far more likely the #2 than Snake is...

Its really unfortunate Ganondorf got Link, hed straight up beat some of the NN. Zelda however isnt stuck with a god.... I look forward to watching you all bitch about ZAW...

On what planet is mega man ahead of snake?

Also underlevelled....Believe me. There are some debatable matches even I admit this one between snake and Zelda might be

But Crono Bowser wont be. It will be the 2nd biggest margin of victory behind link ganon.

People will see how strong Crono really is with these low votals. Hell shock people.

The planet where MGS is utter trash right now and MM has looked great.

The losses being to vote stuffing and Pikachu who himself is way stronger than anything Snake could dream of mustering.

But its cool. Youll probably still stupidly deny this after Zelda crushes him....

She was a LINK PROXY!!!!!

There is no way anything non Zelda on this site would beat Snake, ban all Zelda

Just because MGS is going downhill doesnt mean people forget the older games.

Snake is still one of the most respected game characters and has been for decades.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.

Thats not saying much.

Also for every good sonic game theres also some bad ones. Sure sonic mania was good but forces was garbage.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.

Thats not saying much.

Also for every good sonic game theres also some bad ones. Sure sonic mania was good but forces was garbage.

has sonic ever declined in the contest though? he performed as expected in 2k4 on samus when we take her other matches into account. he beat crono of all people who beat megaman a year earlier. hes been tested far too many times now and has proven to be n9 in 1 v 1s to no end.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.

Thats not saying much.

Also for every good sonic game theres also some bad ones. Sure sonic mania was good but forces was garbage.

Sonic is no longer getting adversely affected by bad games... hes already dealt with 06 and Rise of Lyric. His fans arent gonna get crushed by forces. They are very likely to boost because of Mania.

SlugSh0t posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.

Thats not saying much.

Also for every good sonic game theres also some bad ones. Sure sonic mania was good but forces was garbage.

has sonic ever declined in the contest though? he performed as expected in 2k4 on samus when we take her other matches into account. he beat crono of all people who beat megaman a year earlier. hes been tested far too many times now and has proven to be n9 in 1 v 1s to no end.

Not declined but most other noble ninety got stronger. Since 04 snake and Mario are definitely stronger.
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Thats not saying much.

it's saying enough
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.

Thats not saying much.

Also for every good sonic game theres also some bad ones. Sure sonic mania was good but forces was garbage.

has sonic ever declined in the contest though? he performed as expected in 2k4 on samus when we take her other matches into account. he beat crono of all people who beat megaman a year earlier. hes been tested far too many times now and has proven to be n9 in 1 v 1s to no end.

Not declined but most other noble ninety got stronger. Since 04 snake and Mario are definitely stronger.

exactly but not megaman. hes remained about the same or steadily declined like crono did. After sonic beat crono megaman should have been seen as the weakest.
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SlugSh0t posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

SlugSh0t posted...

Yuri_LowelI posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Sonic had his biggest game in a long time last year, and Sonic characters looked a good bit better than they've looked in years. This is probably the strongest Sonic we've seen in like a decade.

Thats not saying much.

Also for every good sonic game theres also some bad ones. Sure sonic mania was good but forces was garbage.

has sonic ever declined in the contest though? he performed as expected in 2k4 on samus when we take her other matches into account. he beat crono of all people who beat megaman a year earlier. hes been tested far too many times now and has proven to be n9 in 1 v 1s to no end.

Not declined but most other noble ninety got stronger. Since 04 snake and Mario are definitely stronger.

exactly but not megaman. hes remained about the same or steadily declined like crono did. After sonic beat crono megaman should have been seen as the weakest.

I guess well see. Cant se sonic beating crono with these low Votals.

Low votals means less casuals.
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