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Yuri_LowelI
11/29/18 9:29:21 PM
#153:


Is the ganondorf Megaman match tomorrow? Or do we have a one day break?
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Team Rocket Elite
11/29/18 9:33:16 PM
#154:


Ganondorf vs Mega Man is tomorrow. There aren't any more breaks.
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WarThaNemesis2
11/29/18 9:34:17 PM
#155:


Ganondorf/Mega Man and Bowser/PLAN are tomorrow iirc
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heroicmario
11/29/18 9:36:09 PM
#156:


redrocket posted...
Can anyone explain why Mario never boosted like this off the Galaxy games?

Separate of any perceived quality, Odyssey has been more substantial in occupying mind space with people than Galaxy did. It calls back to Mario 64 for peopleand it has that same reach as well. And then, obviously, people are pretty hyped up on Smash, though that seemingly hasnt their everyone the same.
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AxemRedRanger
11/29/18 9:42:34 PM
#157:


Mario Odyssey has also already sold about as well as Galaxy 1 ever did.
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Yuri_LowelI
11/29/18 9:43:20 PM
#158:


heroicmario posted...
redrocket posted...
Can anyone explain why Mario never boosted like this off the Galaxy games?

Separate of any perceived quality, Odyssey has been more substantial in occupying mind space with people than Galaxy did. It calls back to Mario 64 for peopleand it has that same reach as well. And then, obviously, people are pretty hyped up on Smash, though that seemingly hasnt their everyone the same.


Also the systems theyre on.

Back during the wii and wii u era Nintendo werent the most popular.

Give odyssey 5 years. It wont be on this pedestal it is now.

I still think galaxy 2 is better
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Ytterbicide
11/29/18 10:43:18 PM
#159:


i mean

Sephiroth's doing alright considering we haven't seen the guy in a big release in what...thirteen years? I expected him to get doubled or worse.

if Kingdom Hearts fell off a cliff, wouldn't all the FF guys that boosted from KH, drop with them?
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LusterSoldier
11/29/18 11:31:21 PM
#160:


Ytterbicide posted...
if Kingdom Hearts fell off a cliff, wouldn't all the FF guys that boosted from KH, drop with them?


Yes, I think that theory was tossed around when Squall got destroyed by Zelda. A lot of that result was Zelda boosting, but Squall clearly dropped as well because he did worse against Zelda than Aerith did. Traditionally, Squall would have beaten Aerith in a direct match in every single year except for 2002, 2003, and 2018.

KH's epic collapse on this site over the past years may be why characters like Squall have felt the pain more than most of the other FF characters since he boosted from Kingdom Hearts. Cloud and Sephiroth seem to be weaker as well.
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haloiscoolisbak
11/29/18 11:49:16 PM
#161:


Ulti do you ever rally the good character in a match
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tgs2
11/30/18 12:02:21 AM
#162:


Meh. Snake losing and Mario 60-40ing Seph has officialy wrecked my second chance bracket already despite getting Pikachu > Mega Man. Had both Cloud and Snake > Mario. Whoops.
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LeonhartFour
11/30/18 12:21:02 AM
#163:


KamikazePotato posted...
How in the world did Vivi beat this.


He didn't. 2013 Mario was probably quite a bit weaker.

Mario pretty much goes as Nintendo goes. This site is super high on Nintendo right now, and thus Mario is super high. We weren't in 2013.
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LeonhartFour
11/30/18 12:21:21 AM
#164:


also that Tifa pic is terrible

I thought only the background was supposed to be blurry for no reason
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LusterSoldier
11/30/18 12:27:58 AM
#165:


Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 1

Solid Snake vs. Zelda
Registered Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4703 (50.36%)
Zelda - 4636 (49.64%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4944 (48.44%)
Zelda - 5263 (51.56%)

Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Auron
Registered Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5151 (55.17%)
Auron - 4186 (44.83%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5386 (52.76%)
Auron - 4822 (47.24%)

Snake wins the registered user vote and performs nearly 2% better compared to anonymous users.

Sonic does about 2.5% better with registered users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub
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LeonhartFour
11/30/18 12:31:13 AM
#166:


Division 5

Zelda 50.00%
Solid Snake 49.68%
Aerith Gainsborough 37.81%
Squall Leonhart 36.68%
Fox McCloud 35.77%
Jill Valentine 32.83%
Waluigi 32.19%
Captain Toad 30.26%
The Boss 29.30%
Shovel Knight 28.70%
Garrus Vakarian 26.39%
Ramza Beoulve 26.06%
Metal Sonic 25.48%
Ezio Auditore da Firenze 24.67%
D. Va 20.37%
Aloy 19.18%
Hat Kid 17.69%

Division 6

Sonic the Hedgehog 50.00%
Auron 45.68%
Geralt 42.81%
Bayonetta 42.06%
Simon Belmont 40.94%
Vincent Valentine 40.38%
Pac-Man 40.32%
Ryu Hayabusa 40.29%
Sub-Zero 39.55%
Magus 38.86%
Rosalina 37.65%
Lucina 31.57%
Riku 29.94%
Shulk 29.61%
Claire Redfield 26.69%
Joker/Ren Amamiya 24.78%
Sans 23.09%
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_Dog_
11/30/18 12:33:20 AM
#167:


@Yuri_LowelI posted...
redrocket posted...
Can anyone explain why Mario never boosted like this off the Galaxy games?


The wii and wii u sucked ass.

Quite the contrary, the Wii and Wii U had plenty of great games. Give 'em a shot!
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MetalmindStats
11/30/18 12:39:20 AM
#168:


LeonhartFour posted...
Division 6

Sonic the Hedgehog 50.00%
Geralt 42.81%

If anyone had told me pre-contest that Geralt would even break 40% on Sonic without a significant rally, I would have had a quality laugh at their expense.
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Yuri_LowelI
11/30/18 12:54:18 AM
#169:


_Dog_ posted...
@Yuri_LowelI posted...
redrocket posted...
Can anyone explain why Mario never boosted like this off the Galaxy games?


The wii and wii u sucked ass.

Quite the contrary, the Wii and Wii U had plenty of great games. Give 'em a shot!


Im talking about public perception.
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Yuri_LowelI
11/30/18 12:55:03 AM
#170:


MetalmindStats posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Division 6

Sonic the Hedgehog 50.00%
Geralt 42.81%

If anyone had told me pre-contest that Geralt would even break 40% on Sonic without a significant rally, I would have had a quality laugh at their expense.


Why?

With low votals and geralt being polar in the mainstream it would be difficult to break 60 on the guy unless youre a top 5 elite.
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red sox 777
11/30/18 12:59:09 AM
#171:


Man Mario is crushing this. He's doing what Sephiroth did to him before.

The Bowser result didn't look good for Crono > Mario based on the traditional 58/42 ratio of Mario to Bowser and this confirms it. Supposing Seph ends at 41 and Cloud is worth 56% on Seph, and Mario/Crono goes 53/47 as the Bowser match suggests, and... Cloud/Crono is shaping up to be a 50/50 match.
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red sox 777
11/30/18 1:00:52 AM
#172:


Oh the registered user bonus....no wonder Nintendo is crushing it this contest. Registered users have always been even more pro-Nintendo than the rest of the site.
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xp1337
11/30/18 1:03:48 AM
#173:


red sox 777 posted...
Oh the registered user bonus....no wonder Nintendo is crushing it this contest. Registered users have always been even more pro-Nintendo than the rest of the site.

Pfft, Snake won registered users over Zelda. The LAW simply does not care, it applies equally to all.
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Wasssup Now
11/30/18 1:12:02 AM
#174:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
Ulti do you ever rally the good character in a match
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Haste_2
11/30/18 2:14:51 AM
#175:


LusterSoldier posted...
Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 1

Solid Snake vs. Zelda
Registered Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4703 (50.36%)
Zelda - 4636 (49.64%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4944 (48.44%)
Zelda - 5263 (51.56%)

Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Auron
Registered Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5151 (55.17%)
Auron - 4186 (44.83%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5386 (52.76%)
Auron - 4822 (47.24%)

Snake wins the registered user vote and performs nearly 2% better compared to anonymous users.

Sonic does about 2.5% better with registered users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub


Oh my! This is huge! The Noble Nine has finally lost a 1v1, 24 hour-match based on the raw vote total!
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Averia
11/30/18 2:39:41 AM
#176:


Haste_2 posted...
LusterSoldier posted...
Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 1

Solid Snake vs. Zelda
Registered Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4703 (50.36%)
Zelda - 4636 (49.64%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4944 (48.44%)
Zelda - 5263 (51.56%)

Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Auron
Registered Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5151 (55.17%)
Auron - 4186 (44.83%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5386 (52.76%)
Auron - 4822 (47.24%)

Snake wins the registered user vote and performs nearly 2% better compared to anonymous users.

Sonic does about 2.5% better with registered users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub


Oh my! This is huge! The Noble Nine has finally lost a 1v1, 24 hour-match based on the raw vote total!


And if this Zelda wins isn't just Snake having a mega drop , the next match against Sonic should be the first NN loss that isn't close !
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Ultimaphazon
11/30/18 3:35:23 AM
#177:


Auron and Squall have always been pretty close. If anything, Squall has historically been the stronger one.

If you just compare what Zelda got on Squall, to what Sonic got on Auron...
Let's just say next round won't be pretty for Sonic.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/30/18 3:52:19 AM
#178:


Snake's last two matches before this contest were giving Draven a small scare and breaking 45% on Link.

From that to breaking the Noble Nine, wow. How the mighty have fallen.
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Not_Wylvane
11/30/18 4:10:37 AM
#179:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Link/Cloud looks to start the evening of Dec 6.

And Smash is Dec 7.

The trends should be fun as hell to follow for that one.
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LusterSoldier
11/30/18 4:19:53 AM
#180:


That is correct, Link/Cloud is going to start on the evening on December 6th. And then hopefully, we get Snake/Samus 2 days later on the evening of December 8th, assuming Snake can make that far in the Loser bracket.

It'll be interesting to see if Snake's strength goes up after the release of Smash.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
11/30/18 7:04:20 AM
#181:


Would be kind of hard for his strength to go up, since almost every other character left is also in Smash
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Nanis23
11/30/18 7:11:47 AM
#183:


UltimaterializerX posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Ulti do you ever rally the good character in a match

Yes. Every time I rally.

Draven is an amazing character confirmed
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Yuri_LowelI
11/30/18 7:13:42 AM
#185:


BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Would be kind of hard for his strength to go up, since almost every other character left is also in Smash


Theres no chance. Too many characters in smash for people to care.

Guys like Marth get smash boosts. Not people like snake anymore
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squexa
11/30/18 8:28:39 AM
#186:


LusterSoldier posted...
Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 1

Solid Snake vs. Zelda
Registered Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4703 (50.36%)
Zelda - 4636 (49.64%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4944 (48.44%)
Zelda - 5263 (51.56%)

Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Auron
Registered Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5151 (55.17%)
Auron - 4186 (44.83%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5386 (52.76%)
Auron - 4822 (47.24%)

Snake wins the registered user vote and performs nearly 2% better compared to anonymous users.

Sonic does about 2.5% better with registered users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub


Registered voters also favored the Boss over Zelda as well, so maybe they just really like MGS?
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Yuri_LowelI
11/30/18 9:34:58 AM
#187:


Wow samus is doing a lot better in Europe than I thought she would. I expected tifa to bleed her until 56% before rising again but she hasnt dipped below 58 and looking at the stats tifa has only had a few brief moments of stalls and cuts. Seph the same to a lesser degree but mario is far stronger in Europe now.

But the cloud match should be interesting. Cloud still loses to Mario but Id love to see a Cloud/Samus now. Could be neck and neck.
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LusterSoldier
11/30/18 9:39:12 AM
#188:


squexa posted...
Registered voters also favored the Boss over Zelda as well, so maybe they just really like MGS?


MGS in general has done very well with registered users, so it's not just Solid Snake doing this.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/30/18 9:42:23 AM
#189:


MGS feels like the kind of thing gaming world would stop caring about but gameFAQs wouldn't.
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CaptainOfCrush
11/30/18 10:36:55 AM
#190:


Any character would lose relevance after a continued lack of exposure (or worse yet, bad press).

Except Samus.

Anyway, Sephiroth did well enough overnight to return this to the... bare minimum of respectability, I suppose. I would have even called this an okay performance if the Eight Legends really were supercharged and easily won against Pikachu and Zelda. That clearly isn't the case, though; none of them are riding artificial, one week boosts - this is just Mario's natural strength.
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Dfy556
11/30/18 10:56:19 AM
#191:


creativename posted...
So whats been the reactions to Pikachu and Zelda winning? Which caused more of a stir? At what points in the match did the rat and Zelda become clear favorites? I presume Zelda became favored quite early.

People are assuming MGS dropped right? I guess everything except Nintendo, Pokmon and waifus keeps dropping over the years.

@Nanis23
your site is not slow anymore
How did you fix it?

Didnt do anything. Dont know what the problem was.


Yeah kinda. BOTW recently came out and did well, so that helps.

I always figured Pikachu would beat Mega Man. Mega Man is for old dudes now. New generation doesn't know what it is. But everyone knows Pokemon.
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Dfy556
11/30/18 11:00:05 AM
#192:


squexa posted...
LusterSoldier posted...
Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 1

Solid Snake vs. Zelda
Registered Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4703 (50.36%)
Zelda - 4636 (49.64%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4944 (48.44%)
Zelda - 5263 (51.56%)

Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Auron
Registered Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5151 (55.17%)
Auron - 4186 (44.83%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5386 (52.76%)
Auron - 4822 (47.24%)

Snake wins the registered user vote and performs nearly 2% better compared to anonymous users.

Sonic does about 2.5% better with registered users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub


Registered voters also favored the Boss over Zelda as well, so maybe they just really like MGS?


People on GameFAQs respect legacy and tradition, I think. Solid Snake is better than Zelda, both as a character and as an influence in gaming (not to be confused with Link) so I think that plays a part. However LOZ is just as influential so Zelda gets some of that respect too.

MGS is just kinda falling out of relevance. MGS4 was supposed to be the last game, and after 5 came out, and the way it was received... I think a lot of people were ready for MGS to be done. I love the series and I'm a diehard fan, but it is time to let Snake rest.
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Yuri_LowelI
11/30/18 11:35:16 AM
#193:


We should do register users only tournament.

But with 4-5 votes per user and IP.

To get a real gauge of who the stronger on this site is.
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Yuri_LowelI
11/30/18 11:37:07 AM
#194:


Dfy556 posted...
squexa posted...
LusterSoldier posted...
Legends and Loser Bracket, Round 1

Solid Snake vs. Zelda
Registered Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4703 (50.36%)
Zelda - 4636 (49.64%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Solid Snake - 4944 (48.44%)
Zelda - 5263 (51.56%)

Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Auron
Registered Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5151 (55.17%)
Auron - 4186 (44.83%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Sonic the Hedgehog - 5386 (52.76%)
Auron - 4822 (47.24%)

Snake wins the registered user vote and performs nearly 2% better compared to anonymous users.

Sonic does about 2.5% better with registered users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub


Registered voters also favored the Boss over Zelda as well, so maybe they just really like MGS?


People on GameFAQs respect legacy and tradition, I think. Solid Snake is better than Zelda, both as a character and as an influence in gaming (not to be confused with Link) so I think that plays a part. However LOZ is just as influential so Zelda gets some of that respect too.

MGS is just kinda falling out of relevance. MGS4 was supposed to be the last game, and after 5 came out, and the way it was received... I think a lot of people were ready for MGS to be done. I love the series and I'm a diehard fan, but it is time to let Snake rest.


Snake hasnt been relevant since 2014. Add to the fact Kojoma leaving and Konami being asshats and BOTW influence yeah. Zelda still only won by a hairline.

If Kojima was still there and we got MGS6 with solid snake and not big boss then the match wouldnt be close.
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KamikazePotato
11/30/18 11:45:05 AM
#195:


Will probably post updated stats later. But for now I'll just say that this result pegs Samus at both slightly stronger than she was last year and comfortably the #3 in this division.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/30/18 11:48:11 AM
#196:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Except Samus.


First of all, she at least has continued exposure through Smash. Second of all, she just got a well-received new game. Third of all, she has a great enough legacy that someone like Cloud or Crono just doesn't approach.
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AxemRedRanger
11/30/18 11:50:27 AM
#197:


Dfy556 posted...
creativename posted...
So whats been the reactions to Pikachu and Zelda winning? Which caused more of a stir? At what points in the match did the rat and Zelda become clear favorites? I presume Zelda became favored quite early.

People are assuming MGS dropped right? I guess everything except Nintendo, Pokmon and waifus keeps dropping over the years.

@Nanis23
your site is not slow anymore
How did you fix it?

Didnt do anything. Dont know what the problem was.


Yeah kinda. BOTW recently came out and did well, so that helps.

I always figured Pikachu would beat Mega Man. Mega Man is for old dudes now. New generation doesn't know what it is. But everyone knows Pokemon.

There is no new generation on gamefaqs.
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Safer_777
11/30/18 11:52:45 AM
#198:


Still on the Leaderboard!

Came back from work, checked the results. This is what I have to say.

1st match=I can't understand why Samus is so strong. I just can't. Hope Tifa finishes above 40% at least.
2nd match=I was expecting this. I thought Mario would win with around 60% and yeah. If Sephiroth finishes above 40% I will consider this a decent result.

So yeah. I am a huge FF fan. In fact my username before the site forced me to change it was Safer Sephiroth 777! Man why the FF 7 remake isn't coming out? Come on! Also the finals will be Link VS Mario it seems. So fun!
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The Owner of FF9
11/30/18 11:55:32 AM
#199:


Safer_777 posted...
In fact my username before the site forced me to change it was Safer Sephiroth 777! Man why the FF 7 remake isn't coming out? Come on! Also the finals will be Link VS Mario it seems. So fun!

I refused to change my board username.
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Nanis23
11/30/18 11:56:47 AM
#200:


Probably the only place on the Internet that has a board for almost any video game ever released, and it's dying
I don't understand this shit

Yes, this place sucks for FAQs now, it's better to check Youtube or wikis for guides, but for discussion there is no better place anywhere
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Safer_777
11/30/18 12:05:58 PM
#201:


@Nanis23 Of course. What did you expected? This is why less and less young people come here. What to do here?
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