Current Events > What do BattleField 5 and Fallout 76 have in common?

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They are both this years AAA flops, how sad lol
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People said this about Star Wars Battlefront 2 and it's the 5th best selling game in the past 12 months in the US.
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Darmik posted...

People said this about Star Wars Battlefront 2 and it's the 5th best selling game in the past 12 months in the US.

It's also 10 dollars at the moment.
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Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Zeeak4444 posted...

Darmik posted...

People said this about Star Wars Battlefront 2 and it's the 5th best selling game in the past 12 months in the US.

It's also 10 dollars at the moment.

NPD charts are ordered by revenue.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol
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76 isn't flopping. Maybe in the eyes of general opinion but I'm gonna wager it sold incredibly well.
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Vyrulisse posted...

76 isn't flopping. Maybe in the eyes of general opinion but I'm gonna wager it sold incredibly well.

Im always seeing new players pop out of the vault so either people are constantly making alts or new people are coming into the game.
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RainblowDash posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol

Okay, you are trolling. Good to know.

Dash_Harber posted...

RainblowDash posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol

Okay, you are trolling. Good to know.

Watched the Angry Joe review, and there seems to be a lot of problems with the game. Launched with modes still not finished, tiny amount of maps, weird stories no one cares about, historical inaccuracies, you can be bombed as you spawn, shot and killed as you jump from a plane, and subtitles are white with no black border so you can't read shit when it is snowing, which is a good portion of the game.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

RainblowDash posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol

Okay, you are trolling. Good to know.

Watched the Angry Joe review, and there seems to be a lot of problems with the game. Launched with modes still not finished, tiny amount of maps, weird stories no one cares about, historical inaccuracies, you can be bombed as you spawn, shot and killed as you jump from a plane, and subtitles are white with no black border so you can't read shit when it is snowing, which is a good portion of the game.

They fixed the plane/bombing already. More stories are coming, but that's subjective anyway. Yes, some modes are not included yet, but there are already like 10 maps and 8 modes, so I don't know what he's bitching about. Not only that, but all future content is free, which is a fucking gamechanger for BF.

The things they fixed though;
- Classes are balanced. Each has a role. Gadgets are almost all useful.
- Focus on squads; the map defaults to spawning on your squad, squadmates can revive anyone in their squad.
- Weapons are insanely great, you can customize how they function, and separately alter each piece of the gun's skin. From barrel to scope to muzzle, handguard, butt end, etc. You can basically find any range on any class, which is a godsend.
- Grand Operations are insanely fun. The Airborne round, in particular, is super fun.
- The stories are good and far more grounded than the multiplayer. I haven't completed them all yet, but they are closer to the historical stuff some people wanted.
- Historical inaccuracies is a bullshit complaint. The games have never been accurate. It's completely arbitrary to be into the series until now and only be angry about inaccuracies now.

Honestly, maybe you should stop getting your reviews from a Youtube 'celeb' whose whole gimmick is being negative about things. It's a pretty common gimmick nowadays, and the whole reason I don't take Youtube reviewers seriously.

@Vyrulisse posted...

76 isn't flopping. Maybe in the eyes of general opinion but I'm gonna wager it sold incredibly well.

How much are they paying you? I keep seeing you shilling for fallout 76. Are you trying to mislead gamers?
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Have Dash_Harber labeled as cuck for a reason.

LinkAndEpona posted...


Really now? Oh, I'm so hurt.

Battlefield 5 is actually a pretty solid game imo.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

RainblowDash posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol

Okay, you are trolling. Good to know.

Watched the Angry Joe review, and there seems to be a lot of problems with the game. Launched with modes still not finished, tiny amount of maps, weird stories no one cares about, historical inaccuracies, you can be bombed as you spawn, shot and killed as you jump from a plane, and subtitles are white with no black border so you can't read shit when it is snowing, which is a good portion of the game.

So you watched someone elses video on the game and are taking their points instead of making your own opinions? (Nevermind how outdated those were as most have been fixed by now)
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Since when has a game that has sold well been reduced this much within a month of release?

Really guys?
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Dampproof posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

RainblowDash posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol

Okay, you are trolling. Good to know.

Watched the Angry Joe review, and there seems to be a lot of problems with the game. Launched with modes still not finished, tiny amount of maps, weird stories no one cares about, historical inaccuracies, you can be bombed as you spawn, shot and killed as you jump from a plane, and subtitles are white with no black border so you can't read shit when it is snowing, which is a good portion of the game.

So you watched someone elses video on the game and are taking their points instead of making your own opinions? (Nevermind how outdated those were as most have been fixed by now)

Not sure why people keep defending games that release with huge amounts of bugs and missing content that get "patched" later, when they should all have been done at the start, cause you are paying 60 bucks for some reason.

What are the point of reviews if you can't use them to gauge how good a game is? I hate the excuse of if you haven't played it, you can't bash it, cause if you do buy it and play it and hate it, people will say you were stupid to waste your money getting a game you know will suck.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Dampproof posted...

LightHawKnight posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

RainblowDash posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Is BF flopping?

It's literally the best BF in years. They fixed like 90% of the complaints from the previous games.

Lol

Okay, you are trolling. Good to know.

Watched the Angry Joe review, and there seems to be a lot of problems with the game. Launched with modes still not finished, tiny amount of maps, weird stories no one cares about, historical inaccuracies, you can be bombed as you spawn, shot and killed as you jump from a plane, and subtitles are white with no black border so you can't read shit when it is snowing, which is a good portion of the game.

So you watched someone elses video on the game and are taking their points instead of making your own opinions? (Nevermind how outdated those were as most have been fixed by now)

Not sure why people keep defending games that release with huge amounts of bugs and missing content that get "patched" later, when they should all have been done at the start, cause you are paying 60 bucks for some reason.

What are the point of reviews if you can't use them to gauge how good a game is? I hate the excuse of if you haven't played it, you can't bash it, cause if you do buy it and play it and hate it, people will say you were stupid to waste your money getting a game you know will suck.

Battlefield 5 launched with the content they promised at launch though.

Yeah it's a minimal amount of maps but one of the game modes is one of the more extensive ones in Battlefield history (Grand Operations) and there's plenty of gameplay potential.

The expansion content is all releasing for free and they have a really quick release schedule (the game officially launched on November 20th and the first new content is supposed to come out this week - got pushed back from the 4th to the 6th unfortunately).

I feel like it's more engaging than Battlefield 1 was at launch honestly.
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Vyrulisse posted...

76 isn't flopping. Maybe in the eyes of general opinion but I'm gonna wager it sold incredibly well.

are you paid to shill for this game
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Battlefield 5 is dreadfully boring. Vehicles and air support being attached to scorestreaks, gray and brown everything making it hard to pinpoint targets, nerfed spotting and ineffective anti armor weapons make it miserable at times.

Meanwhile I hopped on Battlefield 4 to see if the series was just burnt out to me and instead I had a blast. Battlefield 5 was a simple idea that got royally fucked up by trying to make the series even more teamwork based
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The anti-armor weapons are just fine. And I don't know what you mean by "vehicles and air support being attached to scorestreaks" - you can get halftracks from many spawn points on many maps and the only other vehicle locked behind the squad score are special tank modifications, but otherwise you can still get regular tanks... And the only air support that's locked are the rockets which are extremely powerful and I don't know how you'd propose implementing that *without* destroying game balance and without the commander mode of previous Battlefield games...

It also sounds like you've only played on a couple of maps, since there are definitely snow covered maps and a couple set in/around a city. Again, not really sure why you'd bring this up considering the launch maps of BF1...
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BF1 had a mountainside castle, bombed out trenches in the countryside, an open desert, and an urban French city (Amiens) as some of their starting maps.

What does Battlefield 5 have? A nighttime snow map where visibility is nonexistent, not-Amiens, an open field, an open field with a bridge in the middle, and Amiens with more rubble in it. Definitely all things that come to mind when WW2 is brought up.

Hell, even CoD WW2 had iconic maps like Market Garden, Dunkirk, and North Africa mixed in with all the lesser known things.
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Battlefield 5 is going to get more maps.

Right now it has...

- A snowy mountain peak with open spaces for sniping or suppressive fire and narrow passes for closer quarters combat.
- A winter town with a railroad and supply depot and a medium-sized town (this is both day time and night time, just depends on the game mode).
- An airfield with hangars and radar station and supply points in the desert.
- A bombed out city with a massive destroyed cathedral as the center point, and a library and movie theater.
- An open map with various capturable points spread out around a medium-sized town and fields of green grass and yellow wheat that catch on fire and impede foot travel.
- A large ass desert map (too big for its own good imo) with ruins of fortresses, an airstrip, etc. There's a giant bridge that you can destroy (and rebuild).
- The city of Rotterdam, which feels very much like Seine River.
- Another large ass map that's green and swampy, divided by a semi-destroyed vehicle bridge, with three small towns scattered around the edges.

That's not to mention that each one is featured in each game mode and has various modifications to it as a result (for instance Narvik, the wintry city map, is played at nighttime on about 1/2 of the map on Airborne, though every other game mode it's played during the day).

For the most part, with the exception of a few, the maps are actually better designed than the launch BF1 maps, too. There's a lot less blank travel time between points.
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Plus there's more destruction in BF5. It is almost too quick in my opinion, but entire towns *will* get leveled, bombers will leave craters, players can construct reinforcement walls and make trenches.
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I mean I would have said they're both steaming piles of poop but yours works too.
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Bf5 is amazing and ive played each battlefield at launch since bad company 1. Bfv has had the best launch since bad company 2. People forget bf3 and bf4 were literally unplayable for like a month and they still had premium shit. 5 is completely free content updates and no lootboxes.

My main complaint is that bombers need a cooldown at beginning of match and a few bugs involving towing hitchable objects. Other than that, 90 percent of the complains are incel bs because of optional customizations that alllw you to be a female in multiplayer.
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BF5 is honestly the most fun I've had in a BF game ever. Been playing since the futuristic one on ps2 lol.

It's the first BF where I actually enjoy all the classes and I'm leveling them all up to 20. Normally I just stick to one or two classes.

Honestly the hate it's getting is unjustified and wierd. Like someone in here said anti armor isn't effective, when in reality anti armor is the most OP thing in the game and will surely be nerfed. You die super fast in a tank. And removal of spotting is fantastic.

I love hate brigades too when it comes to AAA games fucking up. Both No Man's Sky and Fallout have been absolutely delicious to me. But BF5 does not deserve to be in that class whatsoever. It's amazing just how damaging that initial reveal was. The game never recovered.
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Battlefield 5 is going to get more maps.

5 is completely free content updates and no lootboxes.

Yep. Just like Battlefront 2. Exactly like Battlefront 2, going by how badly it's selling.

My main complaint is that bombers need a cooldown at beginning of match and a few bugs involving towing hitchable objects. Other than that, 90 percent of the complains are incel bs because of optional customizations that alllw you to be a female in multiplayer.

All my gripes with it are gameplay based, although their shitty handling of the PR over the summer certainly wasn't a good look.

There's just no reason why I'd recommend this right now over Battlefield 1 or even 4. It's a full priced game wrapped in hubris and pointless game decisions.

And Grand Operations is anything but, why did they have to try and complicate what was a perfect blend of Rush and Conquest in Battlefield 1
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It's not fair to compare this to Battlefront 2, which was destined to fail from the beginning from an extremely unbalanced progression system linked specifically to microtransactions. MTX were the basis of virtually every mechanic in that game and when they were disabled, it made everything else feel ridiculously grindy. The modes were also rather boring and there was a bad weapon selection.

It also wasn't made by the primary Battlefield team...
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Battlefront 2 fixed a lot of issues with the first game and had a significantly better campaign than Battlefield 5's offering. Of course, this was all thrown out the window with "pride and accomplishment" but it remains to be said. It was not a terrible game; that would just make things a little too fitting after all.

Battlefield 5 is a Battlefield 1 mod with almost half of the weapons being straight from Battlefield 1 and not being nearly as interesting. Throw in some hubris and questionable gameplay decisions along with a tentative road map and it's a hard sell even for me at $30.

I'm just glad Battlefield 4 and 1 still have very active communities, because since DICE fucked up their WW2 offering most people just want them to go back to modern warfare again.
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Hexenherz posted...

- A bombed out city with a massive destroyed cathedral as the center point, and a library and movie theater.

Devestation is my nightmare. As someone who enjoys sniping, it's a fucking meat grinder.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Yep. Just like Battlefront 2. Exactly like Battlefront 2, going by how badly it's selling.

Yeah, we want to have to pay for new content like we used to complain about, damnit!

AvantgardeAClue posted...

All my gripes with it are gameplay based, although their shitty handling of the PR over the summer certainly wasn't a good look.

How so?

And what issues are you having with gameplay? Grand Operations? I like it. The variety in mission types keeps it fun and entertaining and gives the multiplayer a sort of narrative experience. Not to mention how epic it feels to get to day three and be behind by two only to pull out a win. Oh, and when the sudden death actually triggers, it's fucking epic.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Battlefield 5 is a Battlefield 1 mod with almost half of the weapons being straight from Battlefield 1 and not being nearly as interesting. Throw in some hubris and questionable gameplay decisions along with a tentative road map and it's a hard sell even for me at $30.

Uhhh ... have you even played it? It's not even remotely like a mod. Completely new maps, completely new weapons, new weapon customization, new weapon specializing, new (faction specific) vehicles, character customization, different setting, new modes, etc. It's only like a 'mod' in the sense that both games are large scale FPS games. Either you are full of shit, or you have been playing games with some seriously dedicated full time modders.

And they literally just released a new map for BF5, new single player War Story, and a dozen pages of patch notes that I'm just reading through now. They made a lot of changes to the airplane mechanics, made top gunner positions on tanks more attractive (you can duck and still blind fire so you're not completely exposed) and made changes to handheld RPG weapons... and that's just in the first couple pages.

First phase of vehicle customization is launching.

@Peter_Griffin33 - Delayed all airplane spawns in pre-round by 30 seconds as an intermediate measure to prevent bombers spawn killing players.

"Made various fixes to Special Assignments." I'm curious what that entails...
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Hexenherz posted...

you can duck and still blind fire so you're not completely exposed

Game changer.

I also have to say that, while jarring, the super-powered tanks are sort of growing on me. They take so many explosives to blow up, but I sort of get it, since it makes them feel like they've got some weight like they should.

All the blatant EA marketers in this thread is sad.
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GrindcoreShark posted...

All the blatant EA marketers in this thread is sad.

I'm not saying it's a perfect game. I do wish there was more depth to the weapon specializations, that there were more assignments (I completed most of the non-weapon/class ones in one week), etc.

But it's a good Battlefield game and this has been a pretty decent Battlefield game launch. As was pointed out, look at the launch fiascos of previous games. And a lot of previous Battlefield games were missing features at launch, too.
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Hexenherz posted...

GrindcoreShark posted...

All the blatant EA marketers in this thread is sad.

I'm not saying it's a perfect game. I do wish there was more depth to the weapon specializations, that there were more assignments (I completed most of the non-weapon/class ones in one week), etc.

But it's a good Battlefield game and this has been a pretty decent Battlefield game launch. As was pointed out, look at the launch fiascos of previous games. And a lot of previous Battlefield games were missing features at launch, too.

I'm not buying your shit game, fuck off
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lmao I don't care if you want to buy it or not, I'm not here to sell a game. I'm just here to say that Battlefield 5 and Fallout 76 don't belong in the same group of shit releases.
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Hexenherz posted...

lmao I don't care if you want to buy it or not, I'm not here to sell a game. I'm just here to say that Battlefield 5 and Fallout 76 don't belong in the same group of shit releases.

This.

But I guess we aren't allowed to like anything that others don't like, or they are going to try and ad hominem us all to death.

Hexenherz posted...

lmao I don't care if you want to buy it or not

Yes, you do. That's literally your job.

Hexenherz posted...

. I'm just here to say that Battlefield 5 and Fallout 76 don't belong in the same group of shit releases.

And I'm just here to say you have no subtlety and EA should be ashamed they got such weak marketers for this site
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My job is actually working for the government and it has nothing to do with EA but nice try? :|

I wish I got paid to just post my personal opinions on websites all day (I mean, technically I'm being paid for my personal time 24 hours of the day/7 days a week because that's how my pay works, but I could be doing anything during that time).
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Hexenherz posted...

My job is actually working for the government and it has nothing to do with EA but nice try? :|

I wish I got paid to just post my personal opinions on websites all day (I mean, technically I'm being paid for my personal time 24 hours of the day/7 days a week because that's how my pay works, but I could be doing anything during that time).

Is this directed at me? I was agreeing with you.

Why are you guys bothering to respond to low tier bait
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Conflict posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Hexenherz posted...

My job is actually working for the government and it has nothing to do with EA but nice try? :|

I wish I got paid to just post my personal opinions on websites all day (I mean, technically I'm being paid for my personal time 24 hours of the day/7 days a week because that's how my pay works, but I could be doing anything during that time).

Is this directed at me? I was agreeing with you.

Come on dude he was responding to the post right above him

My bad, it must be someone I have on ignore because I saw my post, his post, my post again. Apologies.

I can't keep track of all these users and these alts. I feel like you have special browser add-ons that tag people somehow -_-
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