Current Events > Turns out pelosi broke the law by ripping trumps speech

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Awesome
02/06/20 8:20:30 AM
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V-E-G-Y-
02/06/20 8:21:25 AM
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NeonOctopus
02/06/20 8:22:03 AM
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thronedfire2
02/06/20 8:22:22 AM
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This administration cares about dignity now?

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John_Galt
02/06/20 8:23:11 AM
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Lol nasty Nancy taking losses right and left

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Weezy_Tha_Don
02/06/20 8:23:18 AM
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nobody is above the law

...really?

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Error1355
02/06/20 8:23:40 AM
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Nobody is above the law.

*looks at the impeachment 'trial'*

oh ok

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pegusus123456
02/06/20 8:27:07 AM
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To quote Frank Underwood, "[You] can smell the cock on [his] breath from here."

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ZMythos
02/06/20 8:28:15 AM
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Lol what a fucking joke.

Bet the CE shills are getting titillated by this tweet

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Southernfatman
02/06/20 8:29:58 AM
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Republicans love rubbing the fact they're hypocritical douches in everyone's faces and their supporters live vicariously through them like they're a part of the winning team. It's the internet troll mentality that's infested everything.

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VTBM
02/06/20 8:29:59 AM
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Error1355 posted...
*looks at the impeachment 'trial'*

oh ok

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Tired-Insomniac
02/06/20 8:32:14 AM
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Lmao

Party of Fascism strikes again

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KillerSlaw
02/06/20 8:36:17 AM
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I would say this is dumb if it wasn't for everyone on CE claiming Trump deleting a tweet is against the law for the longest time.

I mean, it's still dumb but play stupid games...

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gunplagirl
02/06/20 8:37:03 AM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
Lmao

Party of Fascism strikes again
And yet "centrists" think that Republicans aren't ultra far right. It's all a damn travesty where trolls and bigots cheer for this stuff while minorities suffer more and more.

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AlisLandale
02/06/20 8:54:08 AM
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>withhold military aid from an ally
what? No biggie

>tear a piece of paper
NOONE IS ABOVE THE LAW

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ThePieReborn
02/06/20 8:56:48 AM
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That is a hysterically warped reading of the statute, and anyone peddling this should be ashamed.

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Phantom_Nook
02/06/20 8:59:10 AM
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I love that Trumpers are so upset by an old lady ripping up a piece of paper.
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Christian RULES
02/06/20 8:59:32 AM
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#ImpeachPelosi

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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 8:59:55 AM
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yeah but trump didn't break the law with his abuse of power. that's literally what everyone on both sides argued. he committed high crimes that were impeachable, but not statutory crimes.

she (allegedly) broke an actual law, and it's totally fair to pursue it.
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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 9:02:47 AM
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ThePieReborn posted...
That is a hysterically warped reading of the statute, and anyone peddling this should be ashamed.

so she didn't mutilate a document deposited to a clerk in a public office?
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ThePieReborn
02/06/20 9:04:11 AM
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What do you think happened to every other copy printed out?

Further, the statute is referring to documents filed with courts and administrative agencies. Not dime-a-dozen copies of a speech whose transcript has already been preserved.

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treewojima
02/06/20 9:07:21 AM
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the statute doesn't apply to xeroxed copies

this is the dumbest possible take a person could have
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Kami_no_Kami
02/06/20 9:09:10 AM
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God, this is like some kind of pettiness pissing contest. Could the people we vote in to represent us grow the fuck up, please?
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pinky0926
02/06/20 9:14:09 AM
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Is this what they mean by trump derangement syndrome?

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Alpha218
02/06/20 9:14:31 AM
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I wouldnt trust Matt Gaetz to know the law

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Malfunction
02/06/20 9:15:43 AM
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That dude seems like a massive herb
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Kaldrenthebold
02/06/20 9:16:55 AM
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Has anyone filed an ethics complaint against Gaetz for the storming of a closed door deposition? For fuck's sake, everyone in Washington is a feckless coward.

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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 10:14:28 AM
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treewojima posted...
the statute doesn't apply to xeroxed copies

this is the dumbest possible take a person could have

oh i didn't see the no xerox copy clause. thanks mr. constitutional expert for the clarification.
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Dreepapult
02/06/20 10:18:31 AM
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This dude has the dumb

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LightHawKnight
02/06/20 10:20:10 AM
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Why are trumpers so stupid?

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treewojima
02/06/20 10:34:47 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
treewojima posted...
the statute doesn't apply to xeroxed copies

this is the dumbest possible take a person could have

oh i didn't see the no xerox copy clause. thanks mr. constitutional expert for the clarification.

the USC isn't the Constitution
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gp1829
02/06/20 10:42:57 AM
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Isnt there a group of staffers that have to put documents back together because Trump rips them up?
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Tsuyoi3
02/06/20 10:48:17 AM
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Is this the same law I'd heard Trump broke a bunch because he kept ripping documents afterwards and his staff had to piece them back together constantly?
I'll check, if I can still find those claims.
Edit: Nope, his is the Presidential Records Act, which he would be breaking if his staffers didn't pick it up and tape it back for him.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-rips-papers-staffers-tape-together-2018-6

Wonder if that would work here?

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Tired-Insomniac
02/06/20 10:50:29 AM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
Is this the same law I'd heard Trump broke a bunch because he kept ripping documents afterwards and his staff had to piece them back together constantly?
I'll check, if I can still find those claims.

Yes but he's a Republican so laws don't apply

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Tsuyoi3
02/06/20 10:53:42 AM
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Tired-Insomniac posted...
Yes but he's a Republican so laws don't apply
Shoot sorry, came back with my findings. Different, but still kinda hypocritical, considering his flagrant disregard, or likely ignorance.

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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 10:55:15 AM
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treewojima posted...
the USC isn't the Constitution

oh sorry, USC expert who knows of the xerox clause.
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Musourenka
02/06/20 11:03:56 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
yeah but trump didn't break the law with his abuse of power. that's literally what everyone on both sides argued. he committed high crimes that were impeachable, but not statutory crimes.

Bribery and extortion are crimes.


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JE19426
02/06/20 11:04:14 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
so she didn't mutilate a document deposited to a clerk in a public office?

That's correct. Copies of the document might have been deposited to a clerk in public office, but the ones she was given was not.
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V I C I O U S
02/06/20 11:13:22 AM
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gp1829 posted...
Isnt there a group of staffers that have to put documents back together because Trump rips them up?


https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/06/10/trump-papers-filing-system-635164

Meet the guys who tape Trump's papers back together
The president's unofficial 'filing system' involves tearing up documents into pieces, even when they're supposed to be preserved.
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Musourenka
02/06/20 11:18:40 AM
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V I C I O U S posted...
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/06/10/trump-papers-filing-system-635164

Meet the guys who tape Trump's papers back together
The president's unofficial 'filing system' involves tearing up documents into pieces, even when they're supposed to be preserved.

So would those be....

*puts on sunglasses*

...The White House Tapes?

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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 11:46:36 AM
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JE19426 posted...
That's correct. Copies of the document might have been deposited to a clerk in public office, but the ones she was given was not.

what if they, knowing her plan, gave her the original and gave trump a copy?
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Fam_Fam
02/06/20 11:47:01 AM
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Musourenka posted...
Bribery and extortion are crimes.

he wasn't charged with either of those.
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hockeybub89
02/06/20 11:49:40 AM
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Remember when people were saying you couldn't obstruct justice if an investigation doesn't end in a conviction?

Republicans have a funny relationship with the law.

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JE19426
02/06/20 11:53:24 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
what if they, knowing her plan, gave her the original and gave trump a copy?

It wouldn't change anything. The document would still not be deposited with her, especially since they know she's going to destroy it. Even if it being original did change the matter, it wouldn't count because she didn't willingly destroy the original copy.

he wasn't charged with either of those.

I don't see you point here, Congress can't charge people with crimes, that the Justice departments role, which answers to the President.
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twitterfriends
02/06/20 11:53:43 AM
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>acquits a treasonous oligarch
>tells a woman she broke the law by ripping up paper

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Musourenka
02/06/20 11:54:54 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
he wasn't charged with either of those.
Abuse of power covers all of it.

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