Current Events > Why isn't the Tara Reade story getting more traction?

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Bestoffuture posted...

Ok. I'm ignorant then. How has her story changed? Got an article I can read to enlighten me? Or are you just gonna keep calling me a troll?

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/19/837966525/on-the-record-a-former-biden-staffers-sexual-assault-allegation

Don't act like it's out of line to think you're a troll when you're admitting to not knowing the details of what you decided to talk about and you also throw out comments about this being just like Kavanaugh.

Aren't there like 7 women with sexual harassment claims on Trump?

Pretty sure there are.

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Just so everyone knows, no episode of Larry King Live from CNN was ever available on Google Play for download. More fake news from the right.

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OpenShut posted...

The show isn't actually there at all though. Actually look next time rather than taking someone else's word.

Yep, it was never made available for download in the first place.

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Time_Rider posted...

Just so everyone knows, no episode of Larry King Live from CNN was ever available on Google Play for download. More fake news from the right.

It's hilarious to me how Trumpers cry and whine about "fake news" when people literally replay Trump's words, but then they go and actually concoct these fake claims which can be disproven within a few minutes.

OpenShut posted...

It's hilarious to me how Trumpers cry and whine about "fake news" when people literally replay Trump's words, but then they go and actually concoct these fake claims which can be disproven within a few minutes.

Yep. Every single story about this literally says "it's not known if the episode in question was ever available for download" lol. It wasn't.

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Galcian posted...

Why would April 10 and April 12 be on there but not 11? April 11 1993 was a Wednesday and just so happened to be the exact day where Tara Reade mother phoned in

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html

You fell for fake news, NO episode of that show was ever at any time available for download on Google Play.

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Well, that revelation of today's brand new fake news from the right sure halted the shit out of this conversation, lol.

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Time_Rider posted...

Well, that revelation of today's brand new fake news from the right sure halted the shit out of this conversation, lol.

You gotta almost feel bad for Trumpers how soundly they get thrashed whenever they try to debate, lmao. Reality is not on their side.

Lol it's a little weird that that episode is not listed though.


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Bestoffuture posted...

Lol it's a little weird that that episode is not listed though.

Tenlaar posted...

Don't act like it's out of line to think you're a troll

BignutzisBack posted...

She accused a Democrat, it's really that simple.

Exactly. Christine Blasey Ford had far less credibility than Reade, however she was legitimate. Oh, a Republican was her target, so that makes it legit. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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Real talk, probably because the story has continued to change and evolve which brings the credibility into question.

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Bestoffuture posted...

Lol it's a little weird that that episode is not listed though.

Yeah, slightly, but that's a HUGE difference than them actually taking out an episode that you could have downloaded.. which they didn't do.

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Aeptia posted...

Christine Blasey Ford had far less credibility than Reade

Um what

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html

They reported on it with the date of the episode there. I'm not trolling I'm just saying it's a little weird.

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Aeptia posted...

Exactly. Christine Blasey Ford had far less credibility than Reade, however she was legitimate. Oh, a Republican was her target, so that makes it legit. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

The bullshit in this comment is astounding. Christine Ford has no credibility issues at all. Even the right can't deny that.

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Bestoffuture posted...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html

They reported on it with the date of the episode there. I'm not trolling I'm just saying it's a little weird.

Regardless, the episode was never made available to download in the first place.

CNN literally put this story on their front page, lol. They're obviously not trying to hide anything.

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Anteaterking posted...

Um what

Yeah, almost none of this topic (or any of the previous iterations by TC) is earnest discussion.

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BignutzisBack posted...

She accused a Democrat, it's really that simple.

Basically. Its fucking gross that progressives have to share a party with people that willing to bend over backwards to defend sexual assault allegations as long as they dont have an R next to their name
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COVxy posted...

Yeah, almost none of this topic (or any of the previous iterations by TC) is earnest discussion.

Just because you don't like discussing it doesn't mean it's not earnest.

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Because its bs and because dems dont want to eat shit for how they pushed fords testimony as gospel. Truth is no one can know and so theres nothing to be done. If theres a pattern of behavior (like with Trump) then you have a case, but Biden and Kavanaugh dont

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MarqueeSeries posted...

Basically. Its fucking gross that progressives have to share a party with people that willing to bend over backwards to defend sexual assault allegations as long as they dont have an R next to their name

This is what it comes down to. Sexually assaulting women, promoting racist policy, eulogizing Strom Thurmond, etc. etc. are only bad if youre a Republican.
These people arent much better than the other side.

Anteaterking posted...

Um what

Time_Rider posted...

The bullshit in this comment is astounding. Christine Ford has no credibility issues at all. Even the right can't deny that.

Christine Blasey Ford's changing Kavanaugh assault story leaves her short on credibility

When Christine Blasey Ford testified last week before the Judiciary Committee, America witnessed a haunted woman recounting a devastating trauma. But putting aside Fords emotional performance and focusing instead on the professors testimony reveals numerous inconsistencies in her narrative that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her.

As a sex-crimes prosecutor, Republican questioner Rachel Mitchell is well-positioned to know it when she sees it. But rather than see Ford as a victim of sexual abuse by Kavanaugh, Mitchell saw her as a witness lacking in credibility. And this conclusion comes from an expert who knows that there are many reasons victims delay reporting sexual abuse. Mitchell also recognized that victims may legitimately not remember certain details related to an attack.

But the problem for Ford is not that she doesnt remember everything: It is that everything she remembers changes at her convenience.

First, Fords testimony that the assault occurred in the summer of 1982, when just 15, conflicted with both her therapists notes and the text message Ford sent to the Washington Post. According to reporter Emma Brown, Ford claimed she had been assaulted in the mid-1980s; and the therapists notes stated Ford had been the victim of an attempted rape in her late teens. But by that time, Kavanaugh was attending Yale, so Fords recasting of the attack to the summer of 1982 is suspect.

Ford's story changed in key ways

Fords retelling of the alleged sexual assault also included several conflicting accounts of the number of individuals at the gathering. The therapists notes stated that four boys had attempted to rape Ford. (Ford claims her therapist confused the total number of boys at the party with the number of boys who had attacked her.)

Later, in her July letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Ford again placed the number of individuals at the party at five, stating the gathering included her and four other individuals. But Ford then identified the four by name, and that group included three boys and one girl. And finally, during her Senate testimony, Ford unequivocally stated that there were four boys I remember specifically being there, in addition to her friend Leland Keyser.

Another significant change in the scenario came when Ford testified about the location of the party. She had originally told the Washington Post that the attack took place at a house not far from the country club. Yet, when Mitchell revealed a map of the relevant locations and reminded Ford that she had described the attack as having occurred near the country club, Ford backtracked: I would describe [the house] as it's somewhere between my house and the country club in that vicinity thats shown in your picture. Ford added that the country club was a 20-minute drive from her home.

Margot Cleveland, USA Today, 17 December 2019 https://archive.is/w8xYy

Should I quote more, or is the point proven to you?

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Aeptia posted...

Christine Blasey Ford's changing Kavanaugh assault story leaves her short on credibility
Margot Cleveland, USA Today, 17 December 2019 https://archive.is/w8xYy

Should I quote more, or is the point proven to you?

Literally no part of what she said happened changed.

Try again, because you failed.

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Bestoffuture posted...

Just because you don't like discussing it doesn't mean it's not earnest.

Have you managed to read that article that you asked for yet?

Tenlaar posted...

Have you managed to read that article that you asked for yet?

Oops, missed your post. Gimme a couple minutes.

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Bestoffuture posted...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/25/politics/tara-reade-mom-larry-king/index.html

They reported on it with the date of the episode there. I'm not trolling I'm just saying it's a little weird.

@Bestoffuture
Do a Google search with date constraints of before last week.

Larry King Live Aug 10 1993 and 12 show up with a whole bunch of hits and video

Larry King Live Aug 11 1993 shows nothing but 4chan and conspiracy websites

So, is it more likely that the episode and all mention of it in TV guides etc was wiped from the internet in some massive cover-up or (radical idea here) there literally WAS no show on that date?

OpenShut posted...

@Bestoffuture
Do a Google search with date constraints of before last week.

Larry King Live Aug 10 1993 and 12 show up with a whole bunch of hits and video

Larry King Live Aug 11 1993 shows nothing but 4chan and conspiracy websites

So, is it more likely that the episode and all mention of it in TV guides etc was wiped from the internet in some massive cover-up or (radical idea here) there literally WAS no show on that date?

There was, CNN confirms on their own story that Aug 11th was the date of the episode. The point here is that Bernie Bros and the right are lying about it being deleted.

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Tenlaar posted...

Have you managed to read that article that you asked for yet?

Eh, her credibility is a little shaky but I can't entirely dismiss her claims.

OpenShut posted...

@Bestoffuture
Do a Google search with date constraints of before last week.

Larry King Live Aug 10 1993 and 12 show up with a whole bunch of hits and video

Larry King Live Aug 11 1993 shows nothing but 4chan and conspiracy websites

So, is it more likely that the episode and all mention of it in TV guides etc was wiped from the internet in some massive cover-up or (radical idea here) there literally WAS no show on that date?

You're right. Now I'm just wondering where they got that clip from.

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@Time_Rider I don't think CNN looked too closely into it. I literally just took this screenshot now

https://i.imgur.com/DhTFtNs.jpg

As you can see, no Aug 11. But as I said before, the entire INTERNET has no history of there being a show on Aug 11. I don't think the Bernie Bros just made up a deletion, I think they made the entire airing up

Because Jussie Smollett had a more believable story. See:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78624944/938081482

When a journalist gets a potential story they have to actually vet it. Which they did with this and immediately found a ton of red flags. The only people who pushed this story were Bernie supporters who had no issue lying and parroting conspiracy theories during the primaries to try and save their guy. Taking advantage of a clearly unwell women is fair game to these people, their moral superiority is all feigned.

Biden is not a rapist, just like Pete is not a CIA officer who rigged the Iowa caucus. Stop feeding these people.

This topic must have been the catalyst because it is absolutely exploding on Twitter right now, 300k + tweets today about Tara Reade

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i mean the desired outcome is to be heard and if the accusations can be proved true get biden to answer for them

the issue with it is to a lot of folks outside the particularly bubbles online sharing these stories there's just not a lot of credibility attached to this

nor is there much in the way of proof


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Doom_Art posted...

i mean the desired outcome is to be heard and if the accusations can be proved true get biden to answer for them

the issue with it is to a lot of folks outside the particularly bubbles online sharing these stories there's just not a lot of credibility attached to this

nor is there much in the way of proof

So you did share your opinion after all and its exactly as predicted. Good shit man.


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I mean I was responding to a post that's since been deleted and trying to answer why the story isn't taking off the way some people are expecting

not really my opinion on the matter just clarifying why it hasn't taken off

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Because the people you would most expect to report on it really, really want Trump to lose.

I can't blame them on that, but it is pretty transparent.

Esrac posted...

Because the people you would most expect to report on it really, really want Trump to lose.

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The Larry King call is kind of weird. The caller doesn't identify herself or her daughter, the details are extremely vague and it's like speculation that it's even her mom. Right?

And we already knew that Reade accused Biden a couple years ago of a certain level of harassment, which can be associated with what's in the phone call.

Just seems like everyone's losing their shit and claiming that it's the silver bullet but it doesn't seem like that to me?

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There is exactly the same amount of proof against Biden that there was against Kavanaugh. Zero.

There is MORE corroborating evidence to support Reade than Ford.

So, it comes down to how you acted with Kavanaugh. If you thought zero evidence was not enough evidence to consider the accusation viable, then you shouldn't against Biden either. However, if you were shouting from the rooftops that Kavanaugh was a rapist and Republicans were rape apologists and so on... you should be against Biden now.

However, we all know that the story will change for people conveniently to allow them to support the candidate they want.

There will be some idiot Republicans who will say Kavanaugh was innocent because no evidence while condemning Biden. While there will be hypocrite Democrats who supposedly were championing women speaking up who will now silence a woman who is speaking up because she is accusing a democrat.

It is at least funny watching some of the people getting dragged over twitter for their Ford comments and their Reade indifference.

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Hexenherz posted...

The Larry King call is kind of weird. The caller doesn't identify herself or her daughter, the details are extremely vague and it's like speculation that it's even her mom. Right?

And we already knew that Reade accused Biden a couple years ago of a certain level of harassment, which can be associated with what's in the phone call.

Just seems like everyone's losing their shit and claiming that it's the silver bullet but it doesn't seem like that to me?

It is confirmed to be her mother. From location she lived (where she lived at the time), time period of call (right after alleged events), and by voice. The call isn't in doubt from being her mother. The only thing in doubt about the call is whether it is in regards to sexual assault or something else her daughter might have gone to the press over and whether the events she is calling about actually happened or if she just made up a story to her mother.

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Corrik7 posted...

There is exactly the same amount of proof against Biden that there was against Kavanaugh. Zero.

There is MORE corroborating evidence to support Reade than Ford.

So, it comes down to how you acted with Kavanaugh. If you thought zero evidence was not enough evidence to consider the accusation viable, then you shouldn't against Biden either. However, if you were shouting from the rooftops that Kavanaugh was a rapist and Republicans were rape apologists and so on... you should be against Biden now.

However, we all know that the story will change for people conveniently to allow them to support the candidate they want.

There will be some idiot Republicans who will say Kavanaugh was innocent because no evidence while condemning Biden. While there will be hypocrite Democrats who supposedly were championing women speaking up who will now silence a woman who is speaking up because she is accusing a democrat.

It is at least funny watching some of the people getting dragged over twitter for their Ford comments and their Reade indifference.

fratboy kav got appointed to SCOTUS and is now happy furthering alt-right causes at the land's highest court, so I guess we should do the same and vote Biden and have him further non-alt-right causes at POTUS.

I was wavering about who to vote for, but you just convinced me, thanks my friend :)

Corrik7 posted...

It is confirmed to be her mother. From location she lived (where she lived at the time), time period of call (right after alleged events), and by voice. The call isn't in doubt from being her mother. The only thing in doubt about the call is whether it is in regards to sexual assault or something else her daughter might have gone to the press over and whether the events she is calling about actually happened or if she just made up a story to her mother.

Lol, none of this is true. There is literally zero proof it is her mother.

I'm definitely not saying it is or isn't - just pointing out that you are wrong to say that it is confirmed to be her mother. It is not, and will never be able to be confirmed. Her mother has passed away also, if I recall.

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Coastal_elite posted...

fratboy kav got appointed to SCOTUS and is now happy furthering alt-right causes at the land's highest court, so I guess we should do the same and vote Biden and have him further non-alt-right causes at POTUS.

I was wavering about who to vote for, but you just convinced me, thanks my friend :)

No convincing was necessary.

Also, Kavanaugh has voted pretty much along the lines of Roberts and is definitely not voting Alt-Right agenda. Though, apparently Kavanaugh is a racist now also because he was a Republican. Cool.

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Corrik7 posted...

definitely not voting Alt-Right agenda

LMAO

Yeah that's why all the anti-immigrant alt-right shit gets passed 5-4 lol. Have you forgotten about the woman doing the OK hand thing during his confirmation?It was all over the news, and in response... she doubled down on the OK'ing the next day (so, it had to be on purpose)

Time_Rider posted...

Lol, none of this is true. There is literally zero proof it is her mother.

I'm definitely not saying it is or isn't - just pointing out that you are wrong to say that it is confirmed to be her mother. It is not, and will never be able to be confirmed. Her mother has passed away also, if I recall.

Call is August 11th 1993. Tara was employees from December 1993 to August 1993 when she says she was assaulted.

Mother lived in Luis Olaspo (spelling?). Caller is from Luis Olaspo (spelling?).

References daughter working until recently in Washington under a prominent senator. Reade worked under a prominent senator in Washington until just prior.

Reade family has confirmed it is their mother's voice.

Literally all of it is confirmed. You are arguing against facts. Your argument it isn't is based upon the Reade family is lying about their family member's voice from the grave who just coincidentally checks every checkbox for being the person.

You also have corroborating evidence from her family members (which albeit they could lie). You also have corroborating evidence from her former coworker on the record. You also have corroborating evidence from her former neighbor on the record. Who also says she is a lifelong democrat and still voting for Biden despite the happening.

There is much more corroborating evidence than Ford's claim. Both have zero evidence though.

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Corrik7 posted...

No convincing was necessary.

Also, Kavanaugh has voted pretty much along the lines of Roberts and is definitely not voting Alt-Right agenda. Though, apparently Kavanaugh is a racist now also because he was a Republican. Cool.

This is also false. Roberts made one good decision in his entire judicial life. He's as right wing as it gets, along with the boofing, beer drinking rapist.

I don't know you but I've seen you get two things wrong in under ten minutes, lol.

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