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Johnbobb 02/03/21 9:17:09 AM #101:	Maniac64 posted... They could have absolutely made a great Planet Hulk movie. I agree with this ~~and may have mentioned as much in my Thor Ragnarok write-up~~ --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:950229567] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Maniac64 posted... </cite> <quote>They could have absolutely made a great Planet Hulk movie.</quote>I agree with this and may have mentioned as much in my Thor Ragnarok write-up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/03/21 11:00:00 AM #102:	Johnbobb posted... I agree with this ~~and may have mentioned as much in my Thor Ragnarok write-up~~ So did I... --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:950232552] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Johnbobb posted... </cite> <quote>I agree with this and may have mentioned as much in my Thor Ragnarok write-up</quote>So did I... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:18:08 AM #103:	22. Thor: The Dark World Total Score: 653 PrinceKaro 12 Lopen - 14 ScepterOfLove 14 Raka Putra - 16 VengefulKaelee - 16 Eddv - 17 Inviso 17 TomNook - 17 Illuminatusbubu - 19 HanOfTheNekos - 20 Jesse Custer 20 MetalmindStats 20 BetrayedTangy - 21 StifledSilence 21 Cybat 22 NBIceman - 22 Sheep007 22 Whiskey Nick 22 XIII Rocks 22 Anagram 23 CoolCly - 23 Corrik7 23 GavsEvans123 - 23 Johnbobb 23 Maniac64 - 23 Mega Mana - 23 MetalDK 23 Mr Crispy 23 Paratroopa1 23 Red13n - 23 Snake5555555555 - 23 ZenOfThunder 23 --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233095] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>22. Thor: The Dark World Total Score: 653 PrinceKaro 12 Lopen - 14 ScepterOfLove 14 Raka Putra - 16 VengefulKaelee - 16 Eddv - 17 Inviso 17 TomNook - 17 Illuminatusbubu - 19 HanOfTheNekos - 20 Jesse Custer 20 MetalmindStats 20 BetrayedTangy - 21 StifledSilence 21 Cybat 22 NBIceman - 22 Sheep007 22 Whiskey Nick 22 XIII Rocks 22 Anagram 23 CoolCly - 23 Corrik7 23 GavsEvans123 - 23 Johnbobb 23 Maniac64 - 23 Mega Mana - 23 MetalDK 23 Mr Crispy 23 Paratroopa1 23 Red13n - 23 Snake5555555555 - 23 ZenOfThunder 23 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:18:46 AM #104:	PrinceKaro When Thor's girlfriend arbitrarily stumbles onto an ancient superweapon, all of asgard is dragged into conflict with the Dark Elves. Yes, the Dark Elves. I guess we're just gonna go full D&D handbook here. This movie feels at odds with the MCU as a whole, filled with overused fantasy tropes and silly mysticism rather than trying to make a smidgen of sense. It often seems that the director wanted more to make a movie about the norse mythology characters rather than the marvel ones, so many scenes feel less like viewing an advanced alien race and more like watching bad LARPing at a renaissance fair. Thor's relationship with Loki is the highlight of the movie, much like any movie the two of them are in. It goes to show just what kind of depth you can have when you don't fucking bump off your villains automatically in their first appearance, something the MCU does way too much. So this film... it is what it is. It is weird but still watchable. Lopen This one gets a lot of flak, but I will forgive a lot of its wrong as it focuses heavily on Loki and his relationship with Thor and well you can't go all that wrong with that. In non Loki things Broke Girl 1 is a highlight in this one and the end sequence with the portals is memorable insanity which also helps. ScepterOfLove (No write-up.) Raka Putra "Watched it for the first time for this project. It was not horrendous, but the villain was quite forgettable and his plot didn't really have anything to do with anything. The part with Loki's fake-betrayal was kinda brilliant though, I still got tricked even after all these movies. And his 'death'...yeah...whatever, dude. Oh and it had portals before Dr. Strange came to the picture, so that was fun. It's kind of embarrassing, but I have to confess I actually enjoy the shenanigans of Jane Foster's crew a lot. Overall, I don't regret watching it because it had a lot of quite important moments for Thor and the Aether stuff." VengefulKaelee My biggest MCU hot take is that Thor: The Dark World is actually the best of the Thor movies. That's not saying too much, really, as Thor's movies are never standouts, but I enjoy the increased focus on Asgard, the interplay between Thor and Loki, and the overall dramatic story arc here enough to forgive the uninspired villain and the dull bits featuring Natalie Portman and company back on Earth. Eddv This is a bad movie - too much poorly done "greek" god stuff. Inviso Everyone always talks about how this is one of the weakest Marvel movies, if not THE weakest Marvel movie, and perhaps it still is and the MCU is just a really strong series of movies. But Thor 2 is a lot better than I originally gave it credit for being. It has its flaws; namely, Malekith is a blank slate villain who embodies the worst aspects of Marvel villains, and pretty much all of the trademark Marvel comedy comes from Erik running around like a crazy personand Kat Dennings. Its not great. That being said, the emotional aspects of the film are handled pretty well. Dont get me wrong, theres still almost no chemistry between Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman (who feels OUTRAGEOUSLY miscast as a scientist), but the role of Thors mother, her interactions with numerous characters, and her eventual death, all hit hard because of how well-handled they are. Its one of the rare early moments of mourning we see in the MCU, and seeing even LOKI struggle with it hits home how devastating her death truly is. Lokis death was great for how short it lasted, and honestly, it wouldve been better if not for that interstitial scene revealing his survival prior to the ending. So yeah, decent film overall. TomNook I like Thor a lot as a character. So even though this is his worst movie obviously, it's Thor. It can get away a bit more with coasting. It was disappointing that it didn't do more, but I thought it was decent enough. Illuminatusbubu A very forgettable movie that I feel is just there so that we will have a Thor trilogy. It even fails in that regard as the third Thor movie is so good that we will have the fourth Thor movie. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233117] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>PrinceKaro When Thor's girlfriend arbitrarily stumbles onto an ancient superweapon, all of asgard is dragged into conflict with the Dark Elves. Yes, the Dark Elves. I guess we're just gonna go full D&D handbook here. This movie feels at odds with the MCU as a whole, filled with overused fantasy tropes and silly mysticism rather than trying to make a smidgen of sense. It often seems that the director wanted more to make a movie about the norse mythology characters rather than the marvel ones, so many scenes feel less like viewing an advanced alien race and more like watching bad LARPing at a renaissance fair. Thor's relationship with Loki is the highlight of the movie, much like any movie the two of them are in. It goes to show just what kind of depth you can have when you don't fucking bump off your villains automatically in their first appearance, something the MCU does way too much. So this film... it is what it is. It is weird but still watchable. Lopen This one gets a lot of flak, but I will forgive a lot of its wrong as it focuses heavily on Loki and his relationship with Thor and well you can't go all that wrong with that. In non Loki things Broke Girl 1 is a highlight in this one and the end sequence with the portals is memorable insanity which also helps. ScepterOfLove (No write-up.) Raka Putra "Watched it for the first time for this project. It was not horrendous, but the villain was quite forgettable and his plot didn't really have anything to do with anything. The part with Loki's fake-betrayal was kinda brilliant though, I still got tricked even after all these movies. And his 'death'...yeah...whatever, dude. Oh and it had portals before Dr. Strange came to the picture, so that was fun. It's kind of embarrassing, but I have to confess I actually enjoy the shenanigans of Jane Foster's crew a lot. Overall, I don't regret watching it because it had a lot of quite important moments for Thor and the Aether stuff." VengefulKaelee My biggest MCU hot take is that Thor: The Dark World is actually the best of the Thor movies. That's not saying too much, really, as Thor's movies are never standouts, but I enjoy the increased focus on Asgard, the interplay between Thor and Loki, and the overall dramatic story arc here enough to forgive the uninspired villain and the dull bits featuring Natalie Portman and company back on Earth. Eddv This is a bad movie - too much poorly done "greek" god stuff. Inviso Everyone always talks about how this is one of the weakest Marvel movies, if not THE weakest Marvel movie, and perhaps it still is and the MCU is just a really strong series of movies. But Thor 2 is a lot better than I originally gave it credit for being. It has its flaws; namely, Malekith is a blank slate villain who embodies the worst aspects of Marvel villains, and pretty much all of the trademark Marvel comedy comes from Erik running around like a crazy personand Kat Dennings. Its not great. That being said, the emotional aspects of the film are handled pretty well. Dont get me wrong, theres still almost no chemistry between Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman (who feels OUTRAGEOUSLY miscast as a scientist), but the role of Thors mother, her interactions with numerous characters, and her eventual death, all hit hard because of how well-handled they are. Its one of the rare early moments of mourning we see in the MCU, and seeing even LOKI struggle with it hits home how devastating her death truly is. Lokis death was great for how short it lasted, and honestly, it wouldve been better if not for that interstitial scene revealing his survival prior to the ending. So yeah, decent film overall. TomNook I like Thor a lot as a character. So even though this is his worst movie obviously, it's Thor. It can get away a bit more with coasting. It was disappointing that it didn't do more, but I thought it was decent enough. Illuminatusbubu A very forgettable movie that I feel is just there so that we will have a Thor trilogy. It even fails in that regard as the third Thor movie is so good that we will have the fourth Thor movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:19:27 AM #105:	HanOfTheNekos In the end... it wasn't bad. There was enough coherence to make it not Iron Man 2 levels of meh. But overall... it wasn't strong. A lot of things were done poorly. The setpieces were mainly dull. The characters were... varied in their worth. Darcy especially was awful. Most stuff on Earth was. Drizzt and the dark elves weren't very compelling. Too much deus ex machina. Didn't explain some things (where is Odin?). Pacing was alright though. Plot was... ok. Seems like it was very much used as a reason to unearth another Infinity Stone. Thor was solid himself, and the combat and action sequences were pretty exciting. Hate that Sif has to take a backseat to Natalie Portman. Music was good, though not amazing. HOT DAMN LOKI THOUGH Ugh every time he's in a movie I get why everyone goes gaga for Tom Hiddleston. Fuck man. What a great character. In fact, Loki specifically in this movie is one of the best villains in all of the MCU. Gotta give him credit. Jesse Custer It goes without saying that The Dark World was a deeply flawed movie, with a throwaway villain and Thor having about as much personality as a glass of water (to say nothing of Jane, who Ive never been able to care about in the slightest). But at the risk of affording this lackluster movie some praise, it wasnt consistently boring. The gimmick of the portals made for a visually stimulating final battle, and Tom Hiddleston stole the show as Loki whenever he appeared. But what little the movie did right wasnt nearly enough to make up for all the rest. MetalmindStats I think the moment that defines this thoroughly middling MCU installment is when it veers from a surprisingly well-done funeral scene straight into some thudding action. Really, that clash of tone and execution is altogether characteristic of the movie as a whole, which at least puts it a small step above the ones I found more or less boring the whole way through. BetrayedTangy Wanna know the real reason Thor 2 is so boring? Because the first Thor does a horrible job setting it up, When I rewatched this I actually found a lot to like! We start seeing a lot more Asgardian lore and theres some really pretty scenery that comes from it too. Thor and Janes romance thankfully got sidelined too and as a result we got to see more from all the characters. I also thought the final battle was pretty fun and creative. It might seem like Im really hyping this movie up, but dont get me wrong its still not great, I just think its a huge step up from Thor 1 StifledSilence Think Thor 1, but with less douchiness and more fine ass Natalie Portman. Cybat As you would expect, the scenes with Loki in them are almost all a lot of fun, and enough to keep this out of the last spot on their own merit. Unfortunately, basically everything else here is pretty messy and forgettable. Malekith is by far the biggest nonentity villain in a franchise with an unfortunate number of nonentity villains. The exposition is rampant. And the comedy sidekick did NOT need her own comedy sidekick. Interestingly, this was the first movie to use the actual term Infinity Stone, confirming the nature of the ongoing buildup to Thanos after the tease in Avengers. And the writers being forced to revisit this movie led to some funny and heartfelt moments in Endgame. And also, I am one of the few people in the world who actually cares about the Warriors Three and Sif. So Loki isnt the ONLY good thing in the movie. Arguably. NBIceman Take everything bad about the first Thor (and there was a lot) and make it worse and you get Thor: Dark World. The side characters? Still boring, and they even added another one thats even more pointless. The writing? Well, the jokes still generally dont land and Thor still doesnt really sound like a real person. Odin? Still phoning it in. Throw in the most forgettable main villain in the franchise (think of the ground that covers) and we see why this movie has the reputation it does. At least Loki gets a few good scenes here and there. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233140] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos In the end... it wasn't bad. There was enough coherence to make it not Iron Man 2 levels of meh. But overall... it wasn't strong. A lot of things were done poorly. The setpieces were mainly dull. The characters were... varied in their worth. Darcy especially was awful. Most stuff on Earth was. Drizzt and the dark elves weren't very compelling. Too much deus ex machina. Didn't explain some things (where is Odin?). Pacing was alright though. Plot was... ok. Seems like it was very much used as a reason to unearth another Infinity Stone. Thor was solid himself, and the combat and action sequences were pretty exciting. Hate that Sif has to take a backseat to Natalie Portman. Music was good, though not amazing. HOT DAMN LOKI THOUGH Ugh every time he's in a movie I get why everyone goes gaga for Tom Hiddleston. Fuck man. What a great character. In fact, Loki specifically in this movie is one of the best villains in all of the MCU. Gotta give him credit. Jesse Custer It goes without saying that The Dark World was a deeply flawed movie, with a throwaway villain and Thor having about as much personality as a glass of water (to say nothing of Jane, who Ive never been able to care about in the slightest). But at the risk of affording this lackluster movie some praise, it wasnt consistently boring. The gimmick of the portals made for a visually stimulating final battle, and Tom Hiddleston stole the show as Loki whenever he appeared. But what little the movie did right wasnt nearly enough to make up for all the rest. MetalmindStats I think the moment that defines this thoroughly middling MCU installment is when it veers from a surprisingly well-done funeral scene straight into some thudding action. Really, that clash of tone and execution is altogether characteristic of the movie as a whole, which at least puts it a small step above the ones I found more or less boring the whole way through. BetrayedTangy Wanna know the real reason Thor 2 is so boring? Because the first Thor does a horrible job setting it up, When I rewatched this I actually found a lot to like! We start seeing a lot more Asgardian lore and theres some really pretty scenery that comes from it too. Thor and Janes romance thankfully got sidelined too and as a result we got to see more from all the characters. I also thought the final battle was pretty fun and creative. It might seem like Im really hyping this movie up, but dont get me wrong its still not great, I just think its a huge step up from Thor 1 StifledSilence Think Thor 1, but with less douchiness and more fine ass Natalie Portman. Cybat As you would expect, the scenes with Loki in them are almost all a lot of fun, and enough to keep this out of the last spot on their own merit. Unfortunately, basically everything else here is pretty messy and forgettable. Malekith is by far the biggest nonentity villain in a franchise with an unfortunate number of nonentity villains. The exposition is rampant. And the comedy sidekick did NOT need her own comedy sidekick. Interestingly, this was the first movie to use the actual term Infinity Stone, confirming the nature of the ongoing buildup to Thanos after the tease in Avengers. And the writers being forced to revisit this movie led to some funny and heartfelt moments in Endgame. And also, I am one of the few people in the world who actually cares about the Warriors Three and Sif. So Loki isnt the ONLY good thing in the movie. Arguably. NBIceman Take everything bad about the first Thor (and there was a lot) and make it worse and you get Thor: Dark World. The side characters? Still boring, and they even added another one thats even more pointless. The writing? Well, the jokes still generally dont land and Thor still doesnt really sound like a real person. Odin? Still phoning it in. Throw in the most forgettable main villain in the franchise (think of the ground that covers) and we see why this movie has the reputation it does. At least Loki gets a few good scenes here and there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:19:54 AM #106:	Sheep007 Thats a lot of ugly CGI and designs. Jesus. I dont have much to say about this (they say, writing two hundred words). Loki is excellent, and Thor is incredibly boring again unless hes interacting with him. I think Tom Hiddlestone may give my favourite performance in the entire MCU, which is impressive given the actors within it, and without him I dont think there would be any reason to watch this movie. Yes, Chris Hemsworth is hot as hell, but if its just him the film becomes straight boring everything good about Thor 2 is due to Loki. Except for the stuff with Erik, which I forgot about and actually laughed at, which was a shock to me considering how bored I was for most of it. The villain is bad and a little confusing, they already did a bunch of the oh look hes an alien man on earth so he doesnt understand things! jokes, and Jane is another forgettable love interest who somehow got two movies. At least Natalie Portman has better directing than in Star Wars, so shes not anywhere near as bad, although absolutely tragic acting may have been more fun. Whiskey Nick (No write-up.) XIII Rocks Kind of notoriously mediocre, I think Hulk and this will be the bottom two on the list fairly comfortably. I still have a lot of time for this movie, which to me is a testament to the quality of the MCU overall; it lacks any real emotional depth, Malekith is very uninteresting, the comedy sometimes doesn't land and it spends too much time on earth with Ian (???). That said it still has, for some excellent reason, Chris O'Dowd, and Hemsworth/Loki are dynamite in every scene they're in together. Only in the brief period where they work together does the movie really sing. I do really like the ending. It manages to offer satisfying resolution to the Odin/Thor tension, but then has a great little "twist" (though they do telegraph it very heavily) at the end. It manages to have its cake and eat it too in this regard. Decent movie overall. Anagram Complete garbage. I know Christopher Ecclestan, who played the villain, complained that the scenes that gave him depth were all cut. This movie is also made more intolerable by Natalie Portmans terrible acting and her super annoying comic relief friend. CoolCly We all know what the three worst movies are. Most of us just might arrange them a bit differently. Ill start it off with The Dark World. This movie isnt devoid of decent things. In fact, I wouldnt say any film in the MCU is a bad movie. They are just mediocre. Theres too many flaws stacked up to call them good. Ill start with the good: Loki is good as usual. Being a mommas boy deep down is a real nice redeeming feature for him. I love the illusion he puts up to look composed then comes down to reveal hes gone fuckin nuts Asgard looks cool as usual. But since it was already in Thor 1 Im not sure TDW gets much credit for that. Kursed felt very powerful, unlike the stone giant at the beginning, so that was good. Frigga was pretty damn cool for a brief moment as well. I actually like Kat Dennings, and dont begrudge her being in the movie at all! More Kat Dennings in the MCU, I say! WandaVision is gonna be great! The bad: Odin is extraordinary dumb and annoying just to be dumb and annoying, both in his dickishness towards Natalie Portman, and his actions with the dark elves. Malekith has no character to speak of and doesnt ever do anything cool. The plot to help Thor escape Asgard sucked big time. Natalie Portman sucked. The final battle sucked. Thor really doesnt develop as a character. This whole movie ultimately just feels like a waste of time. Overall, mediocre movie! Corrik7 This movie is not good. Boring. Bland. Villain is pointless again. Portman is shoehorned in to be a big deal. The only really fun part in this movie is moreso from Loki than the rest of the cast. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233156] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Sheep007 Thats a lot of ugly CGI and designs. Jesus. I dont have much to say about this (they say, writing two hundred words). Loki is excellent, and Thor is incredibly boring again unless hes interacting with him. I think Tom Hiddlestone may give my favourite performance in the entire MCU, which is impressive given the actors within it, and without him I dont think there would be any reason to watch this movie. Yes, Chris Hemsworth is hot as hell, but if its just him the film becomes straight boring everything good about Thor 2 is due to Loki. Except for the stuff with Erik, which I forgot about and actually laughed at, which was a shock to me considering how bored I was for most of it. The villain is bad and a little confusing, they already did a bunch of the oh look hes an alien man on earth so he doesnt understand things! jokes, and Jane is another forgettable love interest who somehow got two movies. At least Natalie Portman has better directing than in Star Wars, so shes not anywhere near as bad, although absolutely tragic acting may have been more fun. Whiskey Nick (No write-up.) XIII Rocks Kind of notoriously mediocre, I think Hulk and this will be the bottom two on the list fairly comfortably. I still have a lot of time for this movie, which to me is a testament to the quality of the MCU overall; it lacks any real emotional depth, Malekith is very uninteresting, the comedy sometimes doesn't land and it spends too much time on earth with Ian (???). That said it still has, for some excellent reason, Chris O'Dowd, and Hemsworth/Loki are dynamite in every scene they're in together. Only in the brief period where they work together does the movie really sing. I do really like the ending. It manages to offer satisfying resolution to the Odin/Thor tension, but then has a great little "twist" (though they do telegraph it very heavily) at the end. It manages to have its cake and eat it too in this regard. Decent movie overall. Anagram Complete garbage. I know Christopher Ecclestan, who played the villain, complained that the scenes that gave him depth were all cut. This movie is also made more intolerable by Natalie Portmans terrible acting and her super annoying comic relief friend. CoolCly We all know what the three worst movies are. Most of us just might arrange them a bit differently. Ill start it off with The Dark World. This movie isnt devoid of decent things. In fact, I wouldnt say any film in the MCU is a bad movie. They are just mediocre. Theres too many flaws stacked up to call them good. Ill start with the good: Loki is good as usual. Being a mommas boy deep down is a real nice redeeming feature for him. I love the illusion he puts up to look composed then comes down to reveal hes gone fuckin nuts Asgard looks cool as usual. But since it was already in Thor 1 Im not sure TDW gets much credit for that. Kursed felt very powerful, unlike the stone giant at the beginning, so that was good. Frigga was pretty damn cool for a brief moment as well. I actually like Kat Dennings, and dont begrudge her being in the movie at all! More Kat Dennings in the MCU, I say! WandaVision is gonna be great! The bad: Odin is extraordinary dumb and annoying just to be dumb and annoying, both in his dickishness towards Natalie Portman, and his actions with the dark elves. Malekith has no character to speak of and doesnt ever do anything cool. The plot to help Thor escape Asgard sucked big time. Natalie Portman sucked. The final battle sucked. Thor really doesnt develop as a character. This whole movie ultimately just feels like a waste of time. Overall, mediocre movie! Corrik7 This movie is not good. Boring. Bland. Villain is pointless again. Portman is shoehorned in to be a big deal. The only really fun part in this movie is moreso from Loki than the rest of the cast. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:20:31 AM #107:	GavsEvans123 Malekith is a very dull villain. He has no motivation for returning everything to darkness besides the fact that its evil, and he has no personality other than being evil. Its not even scenery-chewing hammy evil thats gloriously entertaining, hes just the bad guy who is there because there has to be a bad guy for Thor to fight. Malekith sticks out as the Marvel Cinematic Universes weakest villain, which is particularly problematic for him since hes the main antagonist and has to do all the villain work himself. At least Vanko wasnt the only villain in Iron Man 2, and the more entertaining Justin Hammer was there to alleviate some of the pressure from him. Malekith isnt so lucky in that regard. Speaking of Vanko, Malekith was apparently another case of the villains character depth being removed in editing. At least Loki is as charismatic as ever, and is back to how he was in the first Thor, instead of the over-the-top evil version from The Avengers. Dr Selvig got done dirty. His nervous breakdown after Loki brainwashed him in The Avengers is played for laughs, and I didnt find it funny at all, which is all the more disappointing considering Tony Starks PTSD was taken seriously in Iron Man 3. In fact, I found it so unfunny that his character is ruined for me because of it. Aside from a brief cameo in Age of Ultron, he hasnt appeared again to date, and I hope it stays that way. A shame, since I didnt mind him prior to this film. In fact, I dont want to see any of Jane Fosters crew again, because Darcy is a completely pointless character who does nothing in either of the two films shes in, and Ian the intern and Janes new boyfriend are even more pointless. Darcy is like a sidekick for the sidekick, and Ian and the boyfriend are sidekicks twice removed. Apologies to the people who like those characters, but I needed to get that off my chest. On the plus side, Frigga has a bigger role this time around, after being a glorified cameo in the first one, and does a lot to stick out as one of the films bright spots. Her death scene, funeral scene and the grief of Loki and Odin to her death is actually surprisingly effective considering that she had been such a minor character until now. Also, she wrecks Malekith sideways to the point that if he hadnt cheated and tagged in Kurse, she would have ended the movie halfway through. I bet Frigga is the most powerful being in the entire MCU, capable of snapping all life without any Infinity Stones, but she had to go so that people dont ask why she doesnt stop any and all threats immediately, turning her into the MCU equivalent of Why didnt the Fellowship fly the eagles to Mordor? or Why didnt Harry Potter use the Time Turner to go back in time and save his parents? By the way, the first one is because the eagles would have been too conspicuous, and the second is because the Time Turners were for going back a few hours, not years. Johnbobb Zzzzzzz Maniac64 This is a bad movie. For more definitiely the worst MCU movie and its not close. The villain is generic as crap. The final battle was pure gimmick that went on WAY to long. The Natalie Portman stuff was bad. They wasted the setting of Asgard and the non-Loki/Thor Asgardians. I was really excited for a movie set in Asgard as the little bit we had seen of it was very cool. I was really excited for the Heroes 3 and more Sif. And then they were barely fleshed out and mostly just background dressing for more Thor, Loki, and Natalie Portman. Even the ending with Loki taking the throne barely amounted to anything going forward. I went into this movie very excited and left if incredibly disappointed. Only worthwhile thing in this movie is that it introduces an infinity stone. Which they proceed to take off of Asgard to the much less secure location with the Collector for some dumb reason. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233172] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>GavsEvans123 Malekith is a very dull villain. He has no motivation for returning everything to darkness besides the fact that its evil, and he has no personality other than being evil. Its not even scenery-chewing hammy evil thats gloriously entertaining, hes just the bad guy who is there because there has to be a bad guy for Thor to fight. Malekith sticks out as the Marvel Cinematic Universes weakest villain, which is particularly problematic for him since hes the main antagonist and has to do all the villain work himself. At least Vanko wasnt the only villain in Iron Man 2, and the more entertaining Justin Hammer was there to alleviate some of the pressure from him. Malekith isnt so lucky in that regard. Speaking of Vanko, Malekith was apparently another case of the villains character depth being removed in editing. At least Loki is as charismatic as ever, and is back to how he was in the first Thor, instead of the over-the-top evil version from The Avengers. Dr Selvig got done dirty. His nervous breakdown after Loki brainwashed him in The Avengers is played for laughs, and I didnt find it funny at all, which is all the more disappointing considering Tony Starks PTSD was taken seriously in Iron Man 3. In fact, I found it so unfunny that his character is ruined for me because of it. Aside from a brief cameo in Age of Ultron, he hasnt appeared again to date, and I hope it stays that way. A shame, since I didnt mind him prior to this film. In fact, I dont want to see any of Jane Fosters crew again, because Darcy is a completely pointless character who does nothing in either of the two films shes in, and Ian the intern and Janes new boyfriend are even more pointless. Darcy is like a sidekick for the sidekick, and Ian and the boyfriend are sidekicks twice removed. Apologies to the people who like those characters, but I needed to get that off my chest. On the plus side, Frigga has a bigger role this time around, after being a glorified cameo in the first one, and does a lot to stick out as one of the films bright spots. Her death scene, funeral scene and the grief of Loki and Odin to her death is actually surprisingly effective considering that she had been such a minor character until now. Also, she wrecks Malekith sideways to the point that if he hadnt cheated and tagged in Kurse, she would have ended the movie halfway through. I bet Frigga is the most powerful being in the entire MCU, capable of snapping all life without any Infinity Stones, but she had to go so that people dont ask why she doesnt stop any and all threats immediately, turning her into the MCU equivalent of Why didnt the Fellowship fly the eagles to Mordor? or Why didnt Harry Potter use the Time Turner to go back in time and save his parents? By the way, the first one is because the eagles would have been too conspicuous, and the second is because the Time Turners were for going back a few hours, not years. Johnbobb Zzzzzzz Maniac64 This is a bad movie. For more definitiely the worst MCU movie and its not close. The villain is generic as crap. The final battle was pure gimmick that went on WAY to long. The Natalie Portman stuff was bad. They wasted the setting of Asgard and the non-Loki/Thor Asgardians. I was really excited for a movie set in Asgard as the little bit we had seen of it was very cool. I was really excited for the Heroes 3 and more Sif. And then they were barely fleshed out and mostly just background dressing for more Thor, Loki, and Natalie Portman. Even the ending with Loki taking the throne barely amounted to anything going forward. I went into this movie very excited and left if incredibly disappointed. Only worthwhile thing in this movie is that it introduces an infinity stone. Which they proceed to take off of Asgard to the much less secure location with the Collector for some dumb reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:20:58 AM #108:	Mega Mana First Scene That Comes to Mind: Loki dropping his cell illusion One of the oddest things watching this again, fully recognizant of Christopher Eccleston as Malekith, is how much the Dark Elves' masked faces look like the Slitheen from the Ninth Doctor's season. Also, the post-credits reunion of Thor and Jane felt like any companion rushing to see the Doctor, with a thunderstorm in place of the TARDIS sound. Hell, if they didn't establish the later action as taking place in Greenwich, I would've assumed it'd be in Cardiff. There wasn't really anything Whovian about this movie, but these things hit me when I wasn't expecting them. As to the actual movie... it still sucks. With how important the Infinity Stones become and how touching a scene is in Endgame, I was ready to give it more of a chance. But it's just... not great. Frigga has about five scenes in total; Odin's much more of a dick than the fatherly first movie; the Jane/Thor pairing works far less; the Convergence is stupid; Erik Selvig is a joke; the Dark Elves suck; Asgard goes from high fantasy realm to anti-aircraft guns and spaceship fights and dome barriers; and the portal hopping feels both silly and contrived. Hell, I keep thinking the ship slashing into Greenwich was from Star Trek Into Darkness. For all its many faults, Hemsworth was amazing. He really nailed Thor in this movie and it felt really good whenever he was around. All the other noise with Jane, the Dark Elves, and Selvig? Meh. Thor, some Loki, and what little Frigga we get? Good. The Warriors Three, Lady Sif, Heimdall, and even Darcy are alright. Quick comment on Darcy? She and Rocket would get on famously should they ever meet. Also, I forgot Adewale Akinnouye-Agbaje was in this! Ekobisi! MetalDK Just a mess. Mr Crispy The elves are hands down the worst MCU villains. The sequel tries to up the stakes and have a more serious tone, but it just doesn't work because the elves don't feel very threatening and they just don't have anything else interesting or likable about them so they're just sort of there floating in some dull looking place detached from everything else going on. It wants you to care more about Thor and Jane but it just fails at that too. Thor and Loki having to work together and deal with the loss of their mother isn't a bad idea, but it's executed so poorly. There's almost nothing interesting or memorable here. Paratroopa1 Probably the only MCU movie that I really get nothing out of. It's not unwatchable - it's got a few jokes, Thor's badass mom, and a kinda neat action sequence at the end - but it's one of the less funny and more melodramatic films and it just feels like kind of a dull fantasy slog involving some boring dark elves. Having two faceless armies on a big open battlefield run at each other is one of the most boring things you can do in a movie - please stop doing it. The plot of this movie largely boils down to there being a bad guy and Thor goes and stops the bad guy. Lives up to its reputation as the least interesting MCU film - it's a very 60%-on-RT kind of experience. I expect this to be one of the bottom two films, along with Hulk. Red13n I would wager there is a pretty good chance this movie finishes last, and it really should. This movie has always been a stain on the MCU I'd rather forget. Aside from some of the more recent titles, this was the only movie on this list I rewatched for the first time here. It was probably about as bad as I recalled. Everything on the human world is bland, kind of pointless, written cheesily and not in a funny enjoyment kind of way. Thor as a character reaches peak boring that at the time seemed completely irrecoverable. Loki is kind of here to save this movie from being a complete trashpile, but that is not near enough to save this movie from feeling like a 2 hour slog. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233183] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Mega Mana First Scene That Comes to Mind: Loki dropping his cell illusion One of the oddest things watching this again, fully recognizant of Christopher Eccleston as Malekith, is how much the Dark Elves' masked faces look like the Slitheen from the Ninth Doctor's season. Also, the post-credits reunion of Thor and Jane felt like any companion rushing to see the Doctor, with a thunderstorm in place of the TARDIS sound. Hell, if they didn't establish the later action as taking place in Greenwich, I would've assumed it'd be in Cardiff. There wasn't really anything Whovian about this movie, but these things hit me when I wasn't expecting them. As to the actual movie... it still sucks. With how important the Infinity Stones become and how touching a scene is in Endgame, I was ready to give it more of a chance. But it's just... not great. Frigga has about five scenes in total; Odin's much more of a dick than the fatherly first movie; the Jane/Thor pairing works far less; the Convergence is stupid; Erik Selvig is a joke; the Dark Elves suck; Asgard goes from high fantasy realm to anti-aircraft guns and spaceship fights and dome barriers; and the portal hopping feels both silly and contrived. Hell, I keep thinking the ship slashing into Greenwich was from Star Trek Into Darkness. For all its many faults, Hemsworth was amazing. He really nailed Thor in this movie and it felt really good whenever he was around. All the other noise with Jane, the Dark Elves, and Selvig? Meh. Thor, some Loki, and what little Frigga we get? Good. The Warriors Three, Lady Sif, Heimdall, and even Darcy are alright. Quick comment on Darcy? She and Rocket would get on famously should they ever meet. Also, I forgot Adewale Akinnouye-Agbaje was in this! Ekobisi! MetalDK Just a mess. Mr Crispy The elves are hands down the worst MCU villains. The sequel tries to up the stakes and have a more serious tone, but it just doesn't work because the elves don't feel very threatening and they just don't have anything else interesting or likable about them so they're just sort of there floating in some dull looking place detached from everything else going on. It wants you to care more about Thor and Jane but it just fails at that too. Thor and Loki having to work together and deal with the loss of their mother isn't a bad idea, but it's executed so poorly. There's almost nothing interesting or memorable here. Paratroopa1 Probably the only MCU movie that I really get nothing out of. It's not unwatchable - it's got a few jokes, Thor's badass mom, and a kinda neat action sequence at the end - but it's one of the less funny and more melodramatic films and it just feels like kind of a dull fantasy slog involving some boring dark elves. Having two faceless armies on a big open battlefield run at each other is one of the most boring things you can do in a movie - please stop doing it. The plot of this movie largely boils down to there being a bad guy and Thor goes and stops the bad guy. Lives up to its reputation as the least interesting MCU film - it's a very 60%-on-RT kind of experience. I expect this to be one of the bottom two films, along with Hulk. Red13n I would wager there is a pretty good chance this movie finishes last, and it really should. This movie has always been a stain on the MCU I'd rather forget. Aside from some of the more recent titles, this was the only movie on this list I rewatched for the first time here. It was probably about as bad as I recalled. Everything on the human world is bland, kind of pointless, written cheesily and not in a funny enjoyment kind of way. Thor as a character reaches peak boring that at the time seemed completely irrecoverable. Loki is kind of here to save this movie from being a complete trashpile, but that is not near enough to save this movie from feeling like a 2 hour slog. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:21:35 AM #109:	Snake5555555555 The only MCU film I would consider outright terrible. What was the major malfunction with this motion picture? Ill tell you: most everything. It is totally devoid of any personality, I feel like almost no one besides maybe Tom Hiddleston wanted to be in this clunkily-written, colorless, poorly acted excuse of a superhero film. Natalie Portman definitely didnt want to be in this especially. There is just absolutely nothing memorable here, the villains are easily the worst of the entire MCU, I dare anybody to recite me one quote or hell even action against Thor that Malekith does in this film. The supporting cast is so misguided and underwritten, Darcy and the gang are intensely out of place in this unnecessarily miserable piece of storytelling. The stakes are way too damn high for a solo character film, it will have you forgivably begging for the entire Avengers team to assemble to battle this global catastrophe and worst of all it is cleaned up all too neatly for something this Earth-shattering. And hell, it cant even begin to make any action scenes interesting, at least give me something visually impressive to look at! It is supremely trash in all regards, and a stand-out poor decision in an otherwise nearly unblemished run of films. ZenOfThunder Never have I been more angry when leaving the theater. Thor hanging his hammer on the coat rack is A+ cinema though --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233202] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Snake5555555555 The only MCU film I would consider outright terrible. What was the major malfunction with this motion picture? Ill tell you: most everything. It is totally devoid of any personality, I feel like almost no one besides maybe Tom Hiddleston wanted to be in this clunkily-written, colorless, poorly acted excuse of a superhero film. Natalie Portman definitely didnt want to be in this especially. There is just absolutely nothing memorable here, the villains are easily the worst of the entire MCU, I dare anybody to recite me one quote or hell even action against Thor that Malekith does in this film. The supporting cast is so misguided and underwritten, Darcy and the gang are intensely out of place in this unnecessarily miserable piece of storytelling. The stakes are way too damn high for a solo character film, it will have you forgivably begging for the entire Avengers team to assemble to battle this global catastrophe and worst of all it is cleaned up all too neatly for something this Earth-shattering. And hell, it cant even begin to make any action scenes interesting, at least give me something visually impressive to look at! It is supremely trash in all regards, and a stand-out poor decision in an otherwise nearly unblemished run of films. ZenOfThunder Never have I been more angry when leaving the theater. Thor hanging his hammer on the coat rack is A+ cinema though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:22:28 AM #110:	OUTLIERS: Eddv - 25 PrinceKaro - 10 Raka Putra - 10 Lopen - 9 BetrayedTangy - 8 GavsEvans123 - 8 ScepterOfLove - 8 Johnbobb - 6 VengefulKaelee - 6 Inviso - 5 TomNook - 5 HanOfTheNekos - 4 Illuminatusbubu - 4 Jesse Custer - 4 Maniac64 - 4 Mr Crispy - 4 Anagram - 3 CoolCly - 3 Mega Mana - 3 Corrik7 - 2 MetalDK - 2 MetalmindStats - 2 Paratroopa1 - 2 Red13n - 2 Snake5555555555 - 2 ZenOfThunder - 2 StifledSilence - 1 Cybat - 0 NBIceman - 0 Sheep007 - 0 Whiskey Nick - 0 XIII Rocks 0 The top of the list remains the same, given that its such a strong, early lead. But theres a lot more diversity of opinion on Dark World, so that conglomeration of 0s after Hulk has been whittled down to just five perfect scores after two rounds. Spoiler for Number 21: ~~Another elimination from the first two phases.~~ --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233225] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>OUTLIERS: Eddv - 25 PrinceKaro - 10 Raka Putra - 10 Lopen - 9 BetrayedTangy - 8 GavsEvans123 - 8 ScepterOfLove - 8 Johnbobb - 6 VengefulKaelee - 6 Inviso - 5 TomNook - 5 HanOfTheNekos - 4 Illuminatusbubu - 4 Jesse Custer - 4 Maniac64 - 4 Mr Crispy - 4 Anagram - 3 CoolCly - 3 Mega Mana - 3 Corrik7 - 2 MetalDK - 2 MetalmindStats - 2 Paratroopa1 - 2 Red13n - 2 Snake5555555555 - 2 ZenOfThunder - 2 StifledSilence - 1 Cybat - 0 NBIceman - 0 Sheep007 - 0 Whiskey Nick - 0 XIII Rocks 0 The top of the list remains the same, given that its such a strong, early lead. But theres a lot more diversity of opinion on Dark World, so that conglomeration of 0s after Hulk has been whittled down to just five perfect scores after two rounds. Spoiler for Number 21: Another elimination from the first two phases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagaram 02/03/21 11:24:28 AM #111:	Iron Man 2 probably --- This is an alt. <cite>Anagaram posted [p:950233276] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Iron Man 2 probably </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagaram 02/03/21 11:25:19 AM #112:	I also enjoy how not even ed has a very divergent opinion about this movie. --- This is an alt. <cite>Anagaram posted [p:950233312] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I also enjoy how not even ed has a very divergent opinion about this movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 11:29:37 AM #113:	Dark World had more last places than Hulk, but it also had a FEW more people willing to give it credit. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950233463] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Dark World had more last places than Hulk, but it also had a FEW more people willing to give it credit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 02/03/21 11:40:26 AM #114:	IM2 and Thor 1 are kinda a coinflip for this --- Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD Guru! <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:950233812] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>IM2 and Thor 1 are kinda a coinflip for this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jesse_Custer 02/03/21 11:47:05 AM #115:	Im just going to keep guessing Iron Man 2 next until it drops. <cite>Jesse_Custer posted [p:950234025] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Im just going to keep guessing Iron Man 2 next until it drops. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 02/03/21 11:48:01 AM #116:	Jesse_Custer posted... Im just going to keep guessing Iron Man 2 next until it drops. Same here. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:950234056] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Jesse_Custer posted... </cite> <quote>Im just going to keep guessing Iron Man 2 next until it drops.</quote>Same here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/03/21 11:48:14 AM #117:	At least we all agreed that Loki was the best part of the movie. First TWO phases? Iron Man 2 probably. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:950234062] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>At least we all agreed that Loki was the best part of the movie. First TWO phases? Iron Man 2 probably. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 02/03/21 12:02:34 PM #118:	Iron Man 2 has Don Cheadle. Thor 1 does not. I think there's a clear and obvious winner here. --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:950234455] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Iron Man 2 has Don Cheadle. Thor 1 does not. I think there's a clear and obvious winner here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 12:04:37 PM #119:	Sheep007 posted... Iron Man 2 has Don Cheadle. Thor 1 does not. I think there's a clear and obvious winner here. By that criteria, Thor 1? I was gonna do lengthy write-ups for every movie, but I just ran out of time. One of the big ones I had for Iron Man 2 was that Don Cheadle just...he doesn't feel like he can hold his own against RDJ the way Terrence Howard could. There's a reason why War Machine is like, the most forgettable Avenger. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950234524] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Sheep007 posted... </cite> <quote>Iron Man 2 has Don Cheadle. Thor 1 does not. I think there's a clear and obvious winner here.</quote> By that criteria, Thor 1? I was gonna do lengthy write-ups for every movie, but I just ran out of time. One of the big ones I had for Iron Man 2 was that Don Cheadle just...he doesn't feel like he can hold his own against RDJ the way Terrence Howard could. There's a reason why War Machine is like, the most forgettable Avenger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 02/03/21 12:07:33 PM #120:	you take back that Don slander this instant --- Perhaps the golden rock was inside us all along. <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:950234636] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>you take back that Don slander this instant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 12:16:10 PM #121:	Don Cheadle is great, but just...not so much in the MCU. Not in his current role. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950234920] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Don Cheadle is great, but just...not so much in the MCU. Not in his current role. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 02/03/21 12:16:35 PM #122:	Wow, I'm in tied for the runner-up outlier. Though it'll be hard to outdo Eddv. I hope it's Iron Man 2 next. --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:950234939] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Wow, I'm in tied for the runner-up outlier. Though it'll be hard to outdo Eddv. I hope it's Iron Man 2 next. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 02/03/21 12:17:25 PM #123:	Don Cheadle is really bad in IM2. I think he gets considerably better in, like, every movie after that, but his first effort is real rough. --- https://imgur.com/UYamul2 Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights <cite>NBIceman posted [p:950234966] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Don Cheadle is really bad in IM2. I think he gets considerably better in, like, every movie after that, but his first effort is real rough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega Mana 02/03/21 12:20:38 PM #124:	NBIceman posted... Don Cheadle is really bad in IM2. I think he gets considerably better in, like, every movie after that, but his first effort is real rough. This. --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega Mana posted [p:950235093] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>NBIceman posted... </cite> <quote>Don Cheadle is really bad in IM2. I think he gets considerably better in, like, every movie after that, but his first effort is real rough.</quote> This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 12:22:50 PM #125:	I mean, he's funny ENOUGH, but I don't know what it is. It's like when you're acting opposite Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man, you've gotta be able to hold your own. Don Cheadle just comes across as a little too...nice? --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950235153] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I mean, he's funny ENOUGH, but I don't know what it is. It's like when you're acting opposite Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man, you've gotta be able to hold your own. Don Cheadle just comes across as a little too...nice? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 02/03/21 12:26:33 PM #126:	Inviso posted... There's a reason why War Machine is like, the most forgettable Avenger. I mean with Iron Man around War Machine kinda is forgettable in general. It works! Anyway with all this talk about Loki fanboying I thought I was gonna be behind more people. Turns out I'm not and I should have known better because Loki is the best. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:950235284] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>There's a reason why War Machine is like, the most forgettable Avenger.</quote> I mean with Iron Man around War Machine kinda is forgettable in general. It works! Anyway with all this talk about Loki fanboying I thought I was gonna be behind more people. Turns out I'm not and I should have known better because Loki is the best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 02/03/21 12:27:44 PM #127:	I don't think Don Cheadle is too bad. I also don't blame him for his performance in IM2. That's like blaming RDJ for his role in IM2 being bad. Or Scarjo. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:950235318] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I don't think Don Cheadle is too bad. I also don't blame him for his performance in IM2. That's like blaming RDJ for his role in IM2 being bad. Or Scarjo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 12:32:13 PM #128:	HanOfTheNekos posted... I don't think Don Cheadle is too bad. I also don't blame him for his performance in IM2. That's like blaming RDJ for his role in IM2 being bad. Or Scarjo. Oh, I wasn't specifically referring to his role in IM2. I meant that I just don't particularly find him to be the right fit for the role across the MCU. I know there were contract reasons why they couldn't get Terrence Howard back, but I just feel like he would've been able to carry the role a lot better is all. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950235483] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think Don Cheadle is too bad. I also don't blame him for his performance in IM2. That's like blaming RDJ for his role in IM2 being bad. Or Scarjo.</quote> Oh, I wasn't specifically referring to his role in IM2. I meant that I just don't particularly find him to be the right fit for the role across the MCU. I know there were contract reasons why they couldn't get Terrence Howard back, but I just feel like he would've been able to carry the role a lot better is all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 02/03/21 1:15:11 PM #129:	Thor 1 is probably next. The first two Thor movies are pretty similar, so one being far apart from the other wouldnt make much sense. I guess it depends on how much you all hate Iron Man 2. --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:950236961] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Thor 1 is probably next. The first two Thor movies are pretty similar, so one being far apart from the other wouldnt make much sense. I guess it depends on how much you all hate Iron Man 2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 02/03/21 1:21:08 PM #130:	I don't really agree Thor 1 is that similar to Thor 2. I did rank them somewhat closely but depending on what you're after they have very different appeal to them. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:950237196] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I don't really agree Thor 1 is that similar to Thor 2. I did rank them somewhat closely but depending on what you're after they have very different appeal to them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSBM_Guy 02/03/21 1:48:43 PM #131:	Hey, Thor 1 had the most compelling Marvel villain until Phase 3. --- I feel completely refreshed. Like I just put on fresh underwear on New Year's Day. <cite>SSBM_Guy posted [p:950238183] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Hey, Thor 1 had the most compelling Marvel villain until Phase 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 02/03/21 1:54:12 PM #132:	Thor 1 is really good! It doesnt deserve to be next. I would guess Iron Man 2, that and Thor 2 are a real coin flip for me. So, The Dark World. I do not hate it. I think it sets up the overarching Infinity Stones plot pretty well. Some of the humour lands. I think the Thor/Loki scenes are pretty good, and I like the last action scene. All this makes it a passable, even decent experience. It has more good stuff in it than either The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man 2. However, it has major flaws that are worse than either of those also. The tone is all over the place, and this is the result of considerable reshoots to add more humour. Before the reshoots, the film had a much more serious tone more in line with the Shakespearean style of the first Thor. It is easy to see the scenes that developed Malekith going as a result of this too. Speaking of which, what a waste of Christopher Eccleston. If you know him, you know that he doesnt like prosthetic, stunt, and CGI heavy roles, and he said he did the role because he was drawn to his character in the script. To see that stuff get cut out is a real shame. Also, theres a scene where Thor asks how to get to Greenwich from Charing Cross on the Underground and the directions are totally wrong! This sounds silly but is something they should have caught, according to an interview with him Tom Hiddleston caught this, tried and failed to intervene, then at the premiere (which was in London) the audience groaned at that scene. Having seen this film in London... it was a common opinion. Londoners actually care about this stuff! Its genuinely a big part of the citys culture so they did their location dirty there. You actually get to Greenwich from Charing Cross by changing at Waterloo, getting the Jubilee line to Canary Wharf, then the DLR to Greenwich, by the way. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:950238384] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Thor 1 is really good! It doesnt deserve to be next. I would guess Iron Man 2, that and Thor 2 are a real coin flip for me. So, The Dark World. I do not hate it. I think it sets up the overarching Infinity Stones plot pretty well. Some of the humour lands. I think the Thor/Loki scenes are pretty good, and I like the last action scene. All this makes it a passable, even decent experience. It has more good stuff in it than either The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man 2. However, it has major flaws that are worse than either of those also. The tone is all over the place, and this is the result of considerable reshoots to add more humour. Before the reshoots, the film had a much more serious tone more in line with the Shakespearean style of the first Thor. It is easy to see the scenes that developed Malekith going as a result of this too. Speaking of which, what a waste of Christopher Eccleston. If you know him, you know that he doesnt like prosthetic, stunt, and CGI heavy roles, and he said he did the role because he was drawn to his character in the script. To see that stuff get cut out is a real shame. Also, theres a scene where Thor asks how to get to Greenwich from Charing Cross on the Underground and the directions are totally wrong! This sounds silly but is something they should have caught, according to an interview with him Tom Hiddleston caught this, tried and failed to intervene, then at the premiere (which was in London) the audience groaned at that scene. Having seen this film in London... it was a common opinion. Londoners actually care about this stuff! Its genuinely a big part of the citys culture so they did their location dirty there. You actually get to Greenwich from Charing Cross by changing at Waterloo, getting the Jubilee line to Canary Wharf, then the DLR to Greenwich, by the way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 02/03/21 2:08:26 PM #133:	I feel like Phase 1, Iron Man succeeded so the MCU was go. And that meant making big movies to introduce Thor and CapAm (I'm sure Hulk was greenlit regardless of Iron Man given their close release dates). It feels very much like Phase 1 was all about introducing the characters and seeing what worked, all in the lead-up to Avengers. But then in the aftermath, most of Phase 1 has been looked upon less favorably compared to the rest of the franchise, aside from Avengers and Iron Man. So then you get Phase 2, where it feels like they were very much settling into a goofier, tone for the franchise. You still have an extremely serious movie like Winter Soldier, and serious themes in many of the other movies, but there is a distinct effort to be funnier and more light-hearted. It's why you get weird tonal shifts in Thor 2, because the original Thor had a very serious, Shakespearean atmosphere to it, and Thor 2 decided to throw more comedy into the mix. Phase 3 is when I feel like Marvel really hit their stride, like someone mentioned earlier in the topic. They figured out what their bread and butter was and didn't try to force movies to be something they're not (for the most part). --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950238953] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Phase 1, Iron Man succeeded so the MCU was go. And that meant making big movies to introduce Thor and CapAm (I'm sure Hulk was greenlit regardless of Iron Man given their close release dates). It feels very much like Phase 1 was all about introducing the characters and seeing what worked, all in the lead-up to Avengers. But then in the aftermath, most of Phase 1 has been looked upon less favorably compared to the rest of the franchise, aside from Avengers and Iron Man. So then you get Phase 2, where it feels like they were very much settling into a goofier, tone for the franchise. You still have an extremely serious movie like Winter Soldier, and serious themes in many of the other movies, but there is a distinct effort to be funnier and more light-hearted. It's why you get weird tonal shifts in Thor 2, because the original Thor had a very serious, Shakespearean atmosphere to it, and Thor 2 decided to throw more comedy into the mix. Phase 3 is when I feel like Marvel really hit their stride, like someone mentioned earlier in the topic. They figured out what their bread and butter was and didn't try to force movies to be something they're not (for the most part). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 02/03/21 2:43:50 PM #134:	Inviso posted... Eddv This is a bad movie - too much poorly done "greek" god stuff. i am the bone of my bait --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:950240372] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite> <quote> Eddv This is a bad movie - too much poorly done "greek" god stuff.</quote> i am the bone of my bait </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 02/03/21 2:47:10 PM #135:	Yeah, Ill agree with that. Phase 1 was bringing together a lot of movies that were going to get made either way and as a result had some pretty different visions behind them, hence, all the differing tones. Thor for instance, had been in the works in some way for 20 years before it came out. Then like you say, off the back of The Avengers and the Iron Man films they were going for a more joke-filled lighthearted action tone before diversifying again around Civil War. This worked pretty well for some, but for others you could feel that clash of tones. I will say though, there is one film from Phase 1 other than those two that I think stands out, and thats Captain America The First Avenger. Great film, great style, and it gave Markus and McFeely, the writers of most of the key films in the Infinity Saga, their start. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:950240517] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Ill agree with that. Phase 1 was bringing together a lot of movies that were going to get made either way and as a result had some pretty different visions behind them, hence, all the differing tones. Thor for instance, had been in the works in some way for 20 years before it came out. Then like you say, off the back of The Avengers and the Iron Man films they were going for a more joke-filled lighthearted action tone before diversifying again around Civil War. This worked pretty well for some, but for others you could feel that clash of tones. I will say though, there is one film from Phase 1 other than those two that I think stands out, and thats Captain America The First Avenger. Great film, great style, and it gave Markus and McFeely, the writers of most of the key films in the Infinity Saga, their start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 02/03/21 3:00:40 PM #136:	Lightning Strikes posted... Also, theres a scene where Thor asks how to get to Greenwich from Charing Cross on the Underground and the directions are totally wrong! This sounds silly but is something they should have caught, according to an interview with him Tom Hiddleston caught this, tried and failed to intervene, then at the premiere (which was in London) the audience groaned at that scene. Having seen this film in London... it was a common opinion. Londoners actually care about this stuff! Its genuinely a big part of the citys culture so they did their location dirty there. Oh no, this movie is even worse than we all thought possible --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:950241029] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Lightning Strikes posted... </cite> <quote> Also, theres a scene where Thor asks how to get to Greenwich from Charing Cross on the Underground and the directions are totally wrong! This sounds silly but is something they should have caught, according to an interview with him Tom Hiddleston caught this, tried and failed to intervene, then at the premiere (which was in London) the audience groaned at that scene. Having seen this film in London... it was a common opinion. Londoners actually care about this stuff! Its genuinely a big part of the citys culture so they did their location dirty there.</quote> Oh no, this movie is even worse than we all thought possible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 02/03/21 3:05:45 PM #137:	Lol since it doesnt matter and I am not in this project, heres my ranking, spoiler tagged as not to distract, from bottom to top: 23 - The Incredible Hulk 22 - Thor: The Dark World 21 - Iron Man 2 20 - Avengers: Age of Ultron 19 - Captain Marvel 18 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 17 - Thor 16 - Ant-Man and the Wasp 15 - Ant-Man ~~14 - Iron Man~~ ~~13 - Captain America: The First Avenger~~ ~~12 - Iron Man 3~~ ~~11 - Spider-Man Far From Home~~ ~~10 - Thor Ragnarok~~ ~~9 - Spider-Man Homecoming~~ ~~8 - Doctor Strange~~ ~~7 - The Avengers~~ ~~6 - Black Panther~~ ~~5 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier~~ ~~4 - Captain America: Civil War~~ ~~3 - Avengers: Infinity War~~ ~~2 - Guardians of the Galaxy~~ ~~1 - Avengers: Endgame~~ So now I can compare my list! Also I think all these films are at least okay! I didnt know there was a limit to the number of spoiler blocks you can have so forgive my formatting lol --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:950241226] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Lol since it doesnt matter and I am not in this project, heres my ranking, spoiler tagged as not to distract, from bottom to top: 23 - The Incredible Hulk 22 - Thor: The Dark World 21 - Iron Man 2 20 - Avengers: Age of Ultron 19 - Captain Marvel 18 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 17 - Thor 16 - Ant-Man and the Wasp 15 - Ant-Man 14 - Iron Man 13 - Captain America: The First Avenger 12 - Iron Man 3 11 - Spider-Man Far From Home 10 - Thor Ragnarok 9 - Spider-Man Homecoming 8 - Doctor Strange 7 - The Avengers 6 - Black Panther 5 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier 4 - Captain America: Civil War 3 - Avengers: Infinity War 2 - Guardians of the Galaxy 1 - Avengers: Endgame So now I can compare my list! Also I think all these films are at least okay! I didnt know there was a limit to the number of spoiler blocks you can have so forgive my formatting lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 02/03/21 3:08:24 PM #138:	Anagaram posted... I also enjoy how not even ed has a very divergent opinion about this movie. Hey notice at least I am saying its a bad movie back in the block of writeups that were positive on the film --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://imgur.com/AWY4xHy <cite>Eddv posted [p:950241320] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Anagaram posted... </cite> <quote>I also enjoy how not even ed has a very divergent opinion about this movie.</quote> Hey notice at least I am saying its a bad movie back in the block of writeups that were positive on the film </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 02/03/21 3:21:16 PM #139:	CoolCly posted... Oh no, this movie is even worse than we all thought possible From one of the UKs oldest political magazines: https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/11/hollywoods-rubbish-tube-geography-thor-2-unnecessary-distraction --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:950241739] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>CoolCly posted... </cite> <quote>Oh no, this movie is even worse than we all thought possible</quote> From one of the UKs oldest political magazines: https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/11/hollywoods-rubbish-tube-geography-thor-2-unnecessary-distraction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 02/03/21 3:33:29 PM #140:	Eddv posted... Hey notice at least I am saying its a bad movie back in the block of writeups that were positive on the film Yeah but you think 5 movies are worse than it, while most people here who dislike the movie probably dont think there are 5 worse MCU movies. --- Congrats to azuarc for winning the GotD Guru! <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:950242149] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Eddv posted... </cite> <quote>Hey notice at least I am saying its a bad movie back in the block of writeups that were positive on the film</quote>Yeah but you think 5 movies are worse than it, while most people here who dislike the movie probably dont think there are 5 worse MCU movies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GavsEvans123 02/03/21 4:49:31 PM #141:	I like that I could find some positives in Thor: The Dark World despite ranking it at number 23. Although there are some Marvel films I dislike overall, I don't consider any of them to be outright terrible. Among the lower ranked ones, there are some I consider to be mediocre, and others that are simply not my thing, although plenty of other people like them and I'm happy that others get enjoyment from them. <cite>GavsEvans123 posted [p:950244781] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I like that I could find some positives in Thor: The Dark World despite ranking it at number 23. Although there are some Marvel films I dislike overall, I don't consider any of them to be outright terrible. Among the lower ranked ones, there are some I consider to be mediocre, and others that are simply not my thing, although plenty of other people like them and I'm happy that others get enjoyment from them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 02/03/21 5:42:44 PM #142:	I honestly only dislike one of the movies on the whole list. There are a lot of them that aren't really worth the effort to watch unless you're just in it for completion's sake though. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:950246486] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I honestly only dislike one of the movies on the whole list. There are a lot of them that aren't really worth the effort to watch unless you're just in it for completion's sake though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 02/03/21 6:37:08 PM #143:	Lopen posted... I honestly only dislike one of the movies on the whole list. There are a lot of them that aren't really worth the effort to watch unless you're just in it for completion's sake though. I agree with this. Theres only one movie on the list I couldnt find a single positive about. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:950248355] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite> <quote>I honestly only dislike one of the movies on the whole list. There are a lot of them that aren't really worth the effort to watch unless you're just in it for completion's sake though.</quote> I agree with this. Theres only one movie on the list I couldnt find a single positive about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZenOfThunder 02/03/21 6:57:52 PM #144:	i love finding out how short my writeups are as they come. i wrote everything so long ago that it's like reading someone else's opinion that i agree with completely --- (\|\| ' ' \|\|) "Your First Thought" - A (sometimes) daily topic series 'bout thinkin': . /\|_\|\ https://bit.ly/YFTB8 [azuarc] <cite>ZenOfThunder posted [p:950249069] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>i love finding out how short my writeups are as they come. i wrote everything so long ago that it's like reading someone else's opinion that i agree with completely </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook 02/03/21 7:02:13 PM #145:	Wonder who the last set of ranking twins will be. Expecting a bunch to still exist in the bottom 2 groups after the next ranking. Maniac64 Mr Crispy Hulk @ 20th, Thor 2 @ 23rd HanOfTheNekos Jesse Custer Hulk @ 21st, Thor 2 @ 20th Inviso TomNook Hulk @ 23rd, Thor 2 @ 17th Anagram CoolCly Mega Mana Hulk @ 21st, Thor 2 @ 23rd Cybat NBIceman Sheep007 Whiskey Nick XIII Rocks Hulk @ 23rd, Thor 2 @ 22nd Corrik7 MetalDK Paratroopa1 Red13n Snake5555555555 ZenOfThunder Hulk @ 22nd, Thor 2 @ 23rd --- Bells, bells, bells! <cite>TomNook posted [p:950249250] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Wonder who the last set of ranking twins will be. Expecting a bunch to still exist in the bottom 2 groups after the next ranking. Maniac64 Mr Crispy Hulk @ 20th, Thor 2 @ 23rd HanOfTheNekos Jesse Custer Hulk @ 21st, Thor 2 @ 20th Inviso TomNook Hulk @ 23rd, Thor 2 @ 17th Anagram CoolCly Mega Mana Hulk @ 21st, Thor 2 @ 23rd Cybat NBIceman Sheep007 Whiskey Nick XIII Rocks Hulk @ 23rd, Thor 2 @ 22nd Corrik7 MetalDK Paratroopa1 Red13n Snake5555555555 ZenOfThunder Hulk @ 22nd, Thor 2 @ 23rd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZenOfThunder 02/03/21 7:03:32 PM #146:	twice I have been really drunk with a friend and seen Thor TDW on TV somewhere (one time I was at a friend's house in his theater room and one time I was actually at a ski resort in the mountains and they had it also playing in their theater for movie night and NOBODY was in there) and both times my friend and I were like "haha, thor 2, it sucks ass, let's drink and watch it and we can laugh at it" and it's honestly so bad that being drunk and watching with intent to lampoon it did not even help. in both instances we watched maybe 20 minutes before leaving/watching something else. literally xanax the movie. --- (\|\| ' ' \|\|) "Your First Thought" - A (sometimes) daily topic series 'bout thinkin': . /\|_\|\ https://bit.ly/YFTB8 [azuarc] <cite>ZenOfThunder posted [p:950249296] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>twice I have been really drunk with a friend and seen Thor TDW on TV somewhere (one time I was at a friend's house in his theater room and one time I was actually at a ski resort in the mountains and they had it also playing in their theater for movie night and NOBODY was in there) and both times my friend and I were like "haha, thor 2, it sucks ass, let's drink and watch it and we can laugh at it" and it's honestly so bad that being drunk and watching with intent to lampoon it did not even help. in both instances we watched maybe 20 minutes before leaving/watching something else. literally xanax the movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 02/03/21 7:03:58 PM #147:	Woo Crispy! --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:950249314] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Woo Crispy! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZenOfThunder 02/03/21 7:04:26 PM #148:	all of my twinsies are users i love and respect, ty user tom nook --- (\|\| ' ' \|\|) "Your First Thought" - A (sometimes) daily topic series 'bout thinkin': . /\|_\|\ https://bit.ly/YFTB8 [azuarc] <cite>ZenOfThunder posted [p:950249334] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>all of my twinsies are users i love and respect, ty user tom nook </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 02/03/21 7:08:42 PM #149:	Iron Man 2 is gonna be #21 but it's not my #21, so I probably won't have a ranking twin for much longer My list isn't a huge outlier though <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:950249511] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Iron Man 2 is gonna be #21 but it's not my #21, so I probably won't have a ranking twin for much longer My list isn't a huge outlier though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 02/03/21 7:10:54 PM #150:	I was relatively nice in my writeup but Thor 2 is really really dull. I think I'm just not a big fan of Asgard and all the fantasy trappings. I basically can't remember anything about the movie except for what's recapped in Endgame and it's like one of only three or so movies in the MCU that I have zero desire to rewatch <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:950249581] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>I was relatively nice in my writeup but Thor 2 is really really dull. I think I'm just not a big fan of Asgard and all the fantasy trappings. I basically can't remember anything about the movie except for what's recapped in Endgame and it's like one of only three or so movies in the MCU that I have zero desire to rewatch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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