Board 8 > Rate the VG Story Day 230: Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

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Lightning Strikes
01/30/22 8:07:28 PM
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Todays game is Star Ocean: Till the End of Time. How would you rate the story on a scale from 1-10?

You can still rate previous days games if you missed them, just write <game name><rating>. If you want to change your rating you can just specify that you are changing your rating. Nominations for future days are also welcome, nominate as many games as you like and I will get to all of them.

Previous Results:
Planescape: Torment - 9.85 (13 votes)
Clannad - 9.75 (4 votes)
Omori - 9.67 (6 votes)
Outer Wilds - 9.61 (22 votes)
Silent Hill 2 - 9.5 (20 votes)
Higurashi When They Cry - 9.5 (9 votes)
Deus Ex - 9.32 (12 votes)
428: Shibuya Scramble - 9.27 (9 votes)
Nier Automata - 9.25 (31 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC - 9.2 (20 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations - 9.19 (35 votes)
Last Window: The Secret of Cape West - 9.15 (10 votes)
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim - 9.1 (14 votes)
The House in Fata Morgana - 9.06 (11 votes)
Yakuza 0 - 9.03 (13 votes)
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 9 (8 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - 8.95 (31 votes)
Steins;Gate - 8.94 (9 votes)
Mother 3 - 8.91 (15 votes)
Umineko When They Cry - 8.89 (14 votes)
Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward - 8.88 (21 votes)
Return of the Obra Dinn - 8.85 (10 votes)
Silent Hill 4: The Room - 8.83 (6 votes)
Suikoden II - 8.8 (11 votes)
Persona 3 - 8.76 (22 votes)
Grim Fandango - 8.75 (14 votes)
Xenogears - 8.73 (24 votes)
AI: The Somnium Files - 8.73 (12 votes)
Tales of Berseria - 8.71 (15 votes)
Final Fantasy Tactics - 8.67 (27 votes)
Metal Gear Solid - 8.67 (28 votes)
Pyre - 8.64 (7 votes)
Portal 2 - 8.64 (19 votes)
Bastion - 8.63 (12 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 8.63 (32 votes)
Dragon Quest V - 8.6 (15 votes)
Yakuza: Like a Dragon - 8.58 (6 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask - 8.57 (28 votes)
Persona 4 - 8.56 (32 votes)
Disco Elysium - 8.56 (17 votes)
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 8.53 (18 votes)
Fate/Stay Night - 8.48 (12 votes)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - 8.47 (16 votes)
Undertale - 8.45 (42 votes)
Mass Effect 2 - 8.44 (29 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd - 8.42 (12 votes)
What Remains of Edith Finch - 8.41 (19 votes)
Chrono Trigger - 8.4 (41 votes)
Snatcher - 8.33 (6 votes)
Final Fantasy X - 8.31 (56 votes)
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door - 8.31 (17 votes)
Final Fantasy VII - 8.29 (38 votes)
South Park: The Stick of Truth - 8.25 (18 votes)
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus - 8.23 (6 votes)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective 8.21 (19 votes)
Parasite Eve - 8.19 (9 votes)
Dragon Quest XI - 8.19 (17 votes)
Final Fantasy VI - 8.19 (43 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - 8.19 (43 votes)
The Walking Dead Season 1 - 8.16 (22 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies - 8.15 (17 votes)
Wolfenstein: The New Order - 8.14 (7 votes)
The Last of Us - 8.13 (35 votes)
Conkers Bad Fur Day - 8.11 (9 votes)
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals - 8.11 (9 votes)
The Wolf Among Us - 8.11 (15 votes)
Horizon: Zero Dawn - 8.06 (18 votes)
Silent Hill - 8.04 (14 votes)
Portal - 8 (26 votes)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - 8 (18 votes)
Xenoblade Chronicles - 7.98 (28 votes)
Hades - 7.96 (22 votes)
Tsukihime - 7.94 (7 votes)
Persona 5 - 7.92 (27 votes)
Life is Strange - 7.92 (32 votes)
Spec Ops: The Line - 7.9 (17 votes)
Bloodborne - 7.88 (20 votes)
Kid Icarus: Uprising - 7.86 (13 votes)
Psychonauts - 7.79 (7 votes)
Deadly Premonition - 7.77 (11 votes)
Final Fantasy IX - 7.77 (26 votes)
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 7.75 (14 votes)
Mario & Luigi: Bowsers Inside Story - 7.75 (10 votes)
Silent Hill 3 - 7.75 (8 votes)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future - 7.75 (6 votes)
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - 7.75 (4 votes)
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors - 7.73 (32 votes)
The Sexy Brutale - 7.7 (5 votes)
Bioshock - 7.65 (24 votes)
Skies of Arcadia - 7.63 (15 votes)
Doki Doki Literature Club - 7.61 (28 votes)
Paper Mario: The Origami King - 7.6 (5 votes)
Celeste - 7.56 (26 votes)
Half-Life 2 - 7.55 (10 votes)
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair - 7.51 (31 votes)
The Last Story - 7.47 (6 votes)
Mortal Kombat (2011) - 7.46 (13 votes)
Marvels Spider-Man - 7.43 (16 votes)
Tales of Symphonia - 7.42 (30 votes)
Earthbound - 7.37 (20 votes)
Mass Effect - 7.33 (29 votes)
Batman: Arkham Asylum - 7.33 (23 votes)
Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma - 7.27 (20 votes)
Tales of the Abyss - 7.25 (29 votes)
Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - 7.25 (12 votes)
Red Dead Redemption - 7.23 (11 votes)
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves - 7.21 (30 votes)
Resident Evil 4 - 7.19 (25 votes)
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony - 7.17 (25 votes)
Mass Effect 3 - 7.16 (21 votes)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 7.11 (23 votes)
The Stanley Parable - 7.11 (14 votes)
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 7.1 (30 votes)
Broken Age - 7.1 (5 votes)
The Last of Us Part II - 7.09 (16 votes)
Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal - 7.08 (6 votes)
To the Moon - 7.07 (7 votes)
INSIDE - 7.06 (16 votes)
Warcraft III (overall) - 7.06 (8 votes)
Assassins Creed II - 7.04 (13 votes)
Final Fantasy VIII - 7.01 (31 votes)
The Vanishing of Ethan Carter - 7 (6 votes)

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Lightning Strikes
01/30/22 8:09:16 PM
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Super Paper Mario - 6.95 (24 votes)
Paper Mario - 6.95 (13 votes)
Gone Home - 6.91 (18 votes)
Bioshock Infinite - 6.88 (20 votes)
Assassins Creed: Brotherhood - 6.83 (6 votes)
The World Ends With You - 6.79 (24 votes)
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne - 6.79 (7 votes)
Firewatch - 6.77 (11 votes)
Death Stranding - 6.73 (13 votes)
Halo: Combat Evolved - 6.7 (10 votes)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice For All - 6.7 (34 votes)
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - 6.68 (11 votes)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 6.68 (13 votes)
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA - 6.66 (11 votes)
Dark Souls - 6.63 (20 votes)
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc - 6.62 (30 votes)
Golden Sun: The Lost Age - 6.58 (12 votes)
Grand Theft Auto V - 6.58 (12 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 6.54 (26 votes)
Chrono Cross - 6.53 (18 votes)
Valkyria Chronicles - 6.5 (16 votes)
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 - 6.5 (13 votes)
Resident Evil Village - 6.5 (7 votes)
Katana Zero - 6.5 (6 votes)
Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag - 6.5 (5 votes)
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard - 6.46 (13 votes)
Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker - 6.46 (12 votes)
Dishonored 2 - 6.43 (7 votes)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos - 6.43 (7 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 6.36 (36 votes)
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 6.35 (10 votes)
Final Fantasy V - 6.28 (27 votes)
Bayonetta 2 - 6.2 (10 votes)
Professor Layton and the Curious Village - 6.15 (15 votes)
DOOM (2016) - 6.15 (13 votes)
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes - 6.14 (7 votes)
Tales of Vesperia - 6.13 (24 votes)
Golden Sun - 6.06 (17 votes)
No More Heroes - 5.96 (12 votes)
Shadow of the Colossus - 5.94 (27 votes)
Assassins Creed III - 5.94 (8 votes)
Sonic Adventure 2 - 5.81 (27 votes)
Final Fantasy IV - 5.8 (33 votes)
Uncharted 3: Drakes Deception - 5.8 (24 votes)
Star Fox 64 - 5.69 (27 votes)
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice - 5.72 (9 votes)
Metroid Prime - 5.72 (25 votes)
Tales of Xillia - 5.71 (12 votes)
Dishonored - 5.7 (10 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword - 5.59 (14 votes)
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - 5.6 (10 votes)
Braid - 5.59 (11 votes)
Metroid Fusion - 5.56 (13 votes)
Journey - 5.56 (17 votes)
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - 5.55 (20 votes)
Persona 4 Arena - 5.51 (9 votes)
The Wonderful 101 - 5.5 (4 votes)
Kingdom Hearts - 5.47 (32 votes)
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - 5.33 (15 votes)
Ninja Gaiden (1988) - 5.33 (9 votes)
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City - 5.33 (6 votes)
Super Mario Galaxy - 5.33 (19 votes)
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box - 5.3 (10 votes)
Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 5.29 (14 votes)
Grand Theft Auto IV - 5.27 (13 votes)
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune - 5.26 (28 votes)
Far Cry 3 - 5.21 (8 votes)
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 5.2 (22 votes)
Final Fantasy XII - 5.09 (17 votes)
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - 5.07 (14 votes)
Phantasy Star II - 5 (5 votes)
Pokmon Red & Blue - 4.95 (33 votes)
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - 4.9 (25 votes)
Mega Man X4 - 4.89 (13 votes)
Paper Mario: Color Splash - 4.88 (4 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright - 4.85 (13 votes)
Heavy Rain - 4.81 (26 votes)
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax - 4.8 (5 votes)
Final Fantasy XIII - 4.79 (29 votes)
Final Fantasy XV - 4.79 (19 votes)
Fable - 4.77 (13 votes)
Tales of Phantasia - 4.75 (4 votes)
Fallout 3 - 4.73 (18 votes)
Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty - 4.72 (9 votes)
Final Fantasy X-2 - 4.7 (20 votes)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 4.65 (42 votes)
Fallout 4 - 4.43 (15 votes)
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - 4.25 (8 votes)
Final Fantasy - 4.17 (21 votes)
Metal Gear - 4.17 (6 votes)
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - 3.89 (9 votes)
Shenmue - 3.79 (7 votes)
Dragon Quest - 3.75 (10 votes)
Secret of Mana - 3.75 (4 votes)
Resident Evil 6 - 3.74 (17 votes)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - 3.69 (13 votes)
Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls - 3.65 (10 votes)
Star Ocean: The Last Hope - 3.43 (15 votes)
Final Fantasy II - 3.4 (10 votes)
Starcraft II (overall) - 3.4 (5 votes)
Grand Theft Auto III - 3.32 (10 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest - 3.31 (16 votes)
Dissidia: Final Fantasy - 3.29 (12 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates (overall) - 3.29 (12 votes)
Starcraft II: Legacy of the Void - 2.83 (6 votes)
DmC: Devil May Cry - 2.67 (9 votes)
Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - 2.66 (16 votes)
Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm - 2.57 (7 votes)
Tales of Zestiria - 2.44 (9 votes)
Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation - 2.4 (10 votes)
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World - 2.05 (11 votes)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star - 1.91 (6 votes)
Plumbers Dont Wear Ties - 1.27 (15 votes)

Needs more votes:
Torment: Tides of Numenera
The Conduit 2
Trace Memory
Code Vein

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Leonhart4
01/30/22 8:10:53 PM
#4:


Nominate Star Fox Assault

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Mac Arrowny
01/30/22 8:32:42 PM
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6

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Strife2
01/30/22 8:34:00 PM
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Before the Plot Twist - 6/10

Fairly basic "dork gets stranded on planet X, but his party is awesome sauce to balance out the cliche, then he goes galavanting against the big bads in the rest of the planet hopping." Not terrible, but good enough for what it needs to do.

After the plot twist - 1/10

But then...you HAD TO FUCKING RUIN IT! It's like Tales of Arise, but with the added benefit of "Hey, let's chuck two other games into a bin of no return because we saw .hack once."

I cannot fucking believe they had the gall to not only pull off the Plot Twist of Doom, but without Danganronpa's self awareness it was a satire on arrival. The big bads are just computer programmers, and the characters are data he created for people to watcho on TV or a video game. What the blue fuck? The 4D world is just some podunk town, and non threatening at all. People give DRV3 shit for screwing over its lore, but even as a single game (haden't played the series up to this point, you chcked all stakes away, made all your characters and their actions meaningless, and made the final boss some schlub computer programmer nutball. It's like saying your final boss is Mark Zuckerberg or something. On it's own, it's fucking sad. Knowing this is a franchise doing this, with a 2nd game that was was welll liked....ew..

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Strife2
01/30/22 8:36:40 PM
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Overall, 3/10. The main medieval world and the planet hopping are fun (Nel and the early 00s invention minigame save this fucking game something fierce), but jesus christ on a cracker, that plot twist is the dumbest thing I've seen save for Eternal Sonata's 10 minute scene with flashbacks OF THE SAME SCENE Claves Death Scene to be specific and Tales of Arise deciding to wreck itself with overblown, overwrought derp in the last 2-3 hours.

I loved SO3 when I first played it, but that plot twist is just awful. It was bad then, it pisses me off the more I think about it. Star Ocean isn't even an amazing franchise by most standards. But I cannot fathom something so low rent and dumb.

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Axl_Rose_85
01/30/22 9:35:39 PM
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I have actually grown to appreciate the lol twist because of just how ridiculous it is. The story was a snoozefest till that point so it was not like the twist derailed a great story but rather it made a bland one more memorable than it had any right to be.

2.5

I do recommend the game to fans of action JRPGs though because the gameplay is really good. The weapon crafting and post-game had me really hooked to the game.
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Axl_Rose_85
01/30/22 9:42:25 PM
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I like how I'm the one who is the least bothered by the plot twist and yet I'm the one who's scored the game the lowest so far.
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WarThaNemesis2
01/30/22 9:57:54 PM
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3/10. A bunch of the cast being optional meant some characters you spent the first half of the game getting attached to did basically nothing for the second half, and that drags everything down into a spiral.

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TheArkOfTurus
01/30/22 9:58:28 PM
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2.5

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colliding
01/30/22 10:02:45 PM
#12:


5.5

I'll be a little more generous, considering I enjoyed the pre-plot twist stuff quite a bit

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Sorozone
01/30/22 10:05:19 PM
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Twist is admittedly stupid.

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KingButz
01/30/22 10:08:12 PM
#14:


4.5 / 10

I didn't really mind the plot twist but i didn't think the story was particularly good to begin with.

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MysteriousStan
01/30/22 10:52:50 PM
#15:


6/10

I was an easy to please 14 year old when this came out and I enjoyed it enough to finish most of the side quests and even did all those bunny races to get the best craftsman for weapons synthing. Twist confused the hell out of me but I didn't hate it I think. Still not great though.
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unknown_duck
01/30/22 10:57:17 PM
#16:


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KamikazePotato
01/30/22 11:32:34 PM
#17:


3.5

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Axl_Rose_85
01/31/22 1:15:49 AM
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Fayt Leingod for stupidest JRPG protagonist name. Yes, it is worse than stuff of legends like Asbel, Edge and Jude Maverick, Duran chips and Benjamin.
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KCF0107
01/31/22 2:04:46 AM
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1.0

Nearly anything of substance in this game is bad

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AxemRedRanger
01/31/22 10:13:40 AM
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Nominate:
Star Ocean: The Second Story

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ninkendo
01/31/22 11:12:26 AM
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7

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Maniac64
01/31/22 11:28:55 AM
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2/10

This was the first Star Ocean game I played. It killed my interest in the whole series.

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Leonhart4
01/31/22 11:39:00 AM
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Remember when Heroic Mario thought Star Ocean was going to beat Pokemon in the Series Contest? Good times.

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pjbasis
01/31/22 12:50:39 PM
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Nominate

Resident Evil 5

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plasmabeam
01/31/22 12:50:50 PM
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7.5/10

Everyone shits on the plot twist toward the end, but it didn't bother me when I played it in 2006.

Overall a decent JRPG story with a few solid characters. It held my interest through its 70-hour runtime, and I never had to force myself to finish it like with other JRPGs of that length (I'm looking at you, Xenoblade 2). For what it's worth, I found SO3's story far more enjoyable than SO2.

Leonhart4 posted...
Remember when Heroic Mario thought Star Ocean was going to beat Pokemon in the Series Contest? Good times.

I still can't believe Metroid beat Pokemon back then. Wild times.

Axl_Rose_85 posted...
Fayt Leingod for stupidest JRPG protagonist name. Yes, it is worse than stuff of legends like Asbel, Edge and Jude Maverick, Duran chips and Benjamin.

Racking my brain to come up with something worse, but I think you're right. "Fayt" is so on-the-nose that it's cringey.

WarThaNemesis2 posted...
A bunch of the cast being optional meant some characters you spent the first half of the game getting attached to did basically nothing for the second half, and that drags everything down into a spiral.

This is a good point. Albel Nox and Nel are the Vincent and Yuffie of SO3.


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Lightning Strikes
01/31/22 3:12:58 PM
#26:


That wasnt that strange a call when every appearance Pokmon had had before then was dreadful. It doing as well as it did against Metroid was the first sign of Pokmon regaining its strength.

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KamikazePotato
01/31/22 6:12:26 PM
#27:


More than the plot twist, I just couldn't believe that a game called Star Ocean took 2/3 of the game to have basically anything to do about space

You started out on a generic fantasy planet, then left and promptly spent the rest of the game on another generic fantasy planet

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AxemRedRanger
01/31/22 6:22:52 PM
#28:


KamikazePotato posted...
More than the plot twist, I just couldn't believe that a game called Star Ocean took 2/3 of the game to have basically anything to do about space

You started out on a generic fantasy planet, then left and promptly spent the rest of the game on another generic fantasy planet
I mean youre right that it doesnt make any sense that they pretty much actively murder the promise implied by the franchise title.

Unfortunately, thats Star Oceans standard M.O.

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Strife2
01/31/22 6:29:41 PM
#29:


They only do it cause Tales pulls that shit every so often. Star Ocean is nothing if riding Tales's cock (for better and worse). Tales did that sort of thing in Destiny and Arise (and probably more games that I can't think of).

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Fiop
01/31/22 6:33:50 PM
#30:


6/10. It was pretty good, I suppose. The big twist didn't bother me so much, but I do agree with some earlier comments that it was unfortunate how they made story characters optional and how much of the game took place on traditional fantasy worlds, despite the space theme.

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banananor
02/01/22 4:20:57 AM
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2/10. i was only able to stomach about 10 hours of it. supremely disappointing

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