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Doom_Art
02/05/22 9:14:59 AM
#102:


Its interesting the sorts of people ITT getting upset over Nazis getting smacked...

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Billyionaire
02/05/22 9:18:34 AM
#103:


hockeybub89 posted...
White supremacy isn't a race.

I miss the days when everyone would laugh at shitheads being slugged, even if the person who did it should rightfully be arrested. People used to not have sympathy for awful victims.
That's a distinction without a difference. I mean, the Jim Crow era wasn't exactly a time when the first-class citizens were using subtlety to force their rule over the others...

And, trust me, I'm not saying the nazis don't deserve to be slugged. But you legitimize and reinforce all of their shitty perspectives and values by meeting their ideas with violence.

As my old basketball coach used to say beat them on the court, not on the streets.

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E_S_M_Z
02/05/22 9:21:33 AM
#104:


Doom_Art posted...
Its interesting the sorts of people ITT getting upset over Nazis getting smacked...

I'm in full support of people who deserve it getting punched on a case-by-case basis, but folks who wander around looking for people to punch just because they're deplorable, or feel a need to do so every time they encounter one, is basically a low-level vigilante situation. What might be justified or beneficial in a case-by-case basis just results in violent psychos considering every situation a chance to be a hero and shooting random people at the drop of a hat.

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hockeybub89
02/05/22 9:23:27 AM
#105:


Doom_Art posted...
Its interesting the sorts of people ITT getting upset over Nazis getting smacked...
They're more upset about that than the police killing an innocent man in his sleep.

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MutantJohn
02/05/22 9:35:23 AM
#106:


Most Nazis today are only guilty of thought crimes. Chill out, children

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/05/22 10:20:43 AM
#108:


MutantJohn posted...
Most Nazis today are only guilty of thought crimes.
This isn't an argument against ostracizing and suppressing them. Its still a good idea to do those things.

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Nasty_Nitro
02/05/22 10:32:41 AM
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Hornezz
02/05/22 10:41:13 AM
#110:


I wonder if the next installment of the Wolfenstein franchise will allow the player to debate the people that have political opinions you disagree with in the marketplace of ideas.

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hockeybub89
02/05/22 11:46:39 AM
#111:


Hornezz posted...
I wonder if the next installment of the Wolfenstein franchise will allow the player to debate the people that have political opinions you disagree with in the marketplace of ideas.
Remember: The marketplace of ideas means letting people speak without responding. Any free speech that challenges these opinions is "censorship" and "cancel culture".

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hockeybub89
02/05/22 11:48:03 AM
#112:


MutantJohn posted...
Most Nazis today are only guilty of thought crimes. Chill out, children
Ah, I miss the old days of never when thoughts and words never influenced what we thought of people. As long as they didn't commit any crimes against humanity, we loved everyone equally.

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MutantJohn
02/05/22 1:15:34 PM
#113:


ITT: militant leftists want to systematically eliminate people for thought crimes

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/05/22 1:23:49 PM
#114:


MutantJohn posted...
ITT: militant leftists want to systematically eliminate people for thought crimes
Imagine being this self-cuckolded.

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wackyteen
02/05/22 1:49:35 PM
#115:


MutantJohn posted...
ITT: militant leftists want to systematically eliminate people for thought crimes
Anyone who is so far down the rabbit hole that they think being or identifying as a fucking Nazi is what they should do with their life, they're beyond saving.

There's a reason we still punish (actual/former) Nazis from WW2 even though they're in their 90s

Because Nazism is incompatible with all acceptable modern ideologies.

Allowing it to fester is like allowing cancer to run rampant in a body. It only leads to suffering and death. Excising it everywhere it is found and from everyone you can is the only way to treat it. If they don't willingly recant their beliefs, then at a minimum they should be monitored and restricted

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Southernfatman
02/05/22 1:56:54 PM
#116:


Now now, we have to be nice to the people who want to round others up in camps and torture/execute them.

Neville Chamberlain tried being nice and appeasing with the nazis. Look at how that turned out.

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AloneIBreak
02/05/22 1:57:36 PM
#117:


Still waiting for any sort of rational justification for violence. So far its just look at everyone defending Nazis and other dismissive straw men. The ethical value of an action is determined by its anticipated and predictable consequences. The satisfaction of primitive violent impulses isnt justification for anything.

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wackyteen
02/05/22 2:15:19 PM
#118:


AloneIBreak posted...
Still waiting for any sort of rational justification for violence. So far its just look at everyone defending Nazis and other dismissive straw men. The ethical value of an action is determined by its anticipated and predictable consequences. The satisfaction of primitive violent impulses isnt justification for anything.
The anticipated and predictable consequence is that the subhuman Nazi trash knows they have no fucking place in a decent society.

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Nemu
02/05/22 2:17:11 PM
#119:


wackyteen posted...
The anticipated and predictable consequence is that the subhuman Nazi trash knows they have no fucking place in a decent society.
And if it gets to the point where idiots harm innocent people due to mistaken identity or misapplication of that terminology?
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goldenBoi45
02/05/22 2:18:33 PM
#120:


Good thing you can't just go around punching people. You know, because that would be childish and also a crime

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wackyteen
02/05/22 2:20:13 PM
#121:


Nemu posted...
And if it gets to the point where idiots harm innocent people due to mistaken identity or misapplication of that terminology?

Better than the alternative of allowing it any quarter

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MutantJohn
02/05/22 2:56:18 PM
#122:


We still prosecute WW2 Nazis because they actually committed crimes.

Look, Nazism isn't good. But neither is going around and assaulting people who haven't actually committed any offenses.

If you use violence against them, they're justified to use it against us.

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E_S_M_Z
02/05/22 3:08:12 PM
#123:


wackyteen posted...
Better than the alternative of allowing it any quarter

You're showing them a lot of quarter by just leaving it at a punch, man.
You should probably abduct them off the street, cut off their limbs, and hold them prisoner in the basement in a state of living death for years until they beg to die. Every good man should do this, right? It's no big deal if we accidentally do this to a bunch of people who didn't actually deserve it, though.

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hockeybub89
02/05/22 3:50:37 PM
#124:


Tolerance is out of control

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MutantJohn
02/05/22 4:07:57 PM
#125:


You can still censor Nazi rhetoric.

The point is, you don't need to resort to immature acts of violence.

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Lordgold666
02/05/22 11:03:32 PM
#126:


Banned from here too lmao

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TommyG663513
02/05/22 11:40:53 PM
#127:


hockeybub89 posted...
White supremacy isn't an issue with much nuance. There's right and wrong.

And not saying this to you personally, but weird how certain groups of people are at their loudest about "peace and understanding, changing hearts and minds" when people are intolerant to FUCKING NAZIS. Very curious at what times they develop tolerance and acceptance of "different opinions". They aren't such hippies when they hear about schools letting children know LGBT people exist.

@hockeybub89

This isn't about whether being a Nazi is right or wrong. This is about whether the "see a Nazi, punch a Nazi" is a reasonable position.

If Nazis are actively committing a takeover of my town by violent force or if I come upon Nazis committing a violent action then I would certainly be compelled to do something.

If I walk past a guy on the sidewalk who is shirtless with a swastika tattooed across his chest then I'm going to walk past him and keep something of a watchful eye on him. If I just immediately punched him then I'd be committing assault. You know, a crime.

So think creatively for a bit. I'm sure you can think of a more intelligent way to deal with a Nazi than punching them in the face.

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/05/22 11:45:41 PM
#128:


Lordgold666 posted...
Banned from here too lmao
lol

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Kloe_Rinz
02/05/22 11:52:57 PM
#129:


UnfairRepresent posted...
No one ever said "Wow that dude screamed and punched me! That must mean my views are wrong!"
they dont care that they're wrong so whys it matter what they think?
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AloneIBreak
02/06/22 12:01:03 AM
#130:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
they dont care that they're wrong so whys it matter what they think?

So long as they have any sort of political power, it obviously matters what they think. Are you the sort to change your mind if someone punches you?

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