Current Events > Cop hears an acorn hit his car and empties a clip into in his police car...

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Because his belief was he was discharging his firearm as a matter of an approved use of force. Its a different standard

Its a different standard

I can't even hear that shit on the bodycam. Guns are loud you fucking dope.

I can't even hear that shit on the bodycam. Guns are loud you fucking dope.

As he walked by he thought he heard a gunshot. Witnesses said they thought it was a gun shot too.

are reflex sights standard issue on police pistols now??

this is the result of decades of militarization of our police. they are trained to have a mindset of a soldier in a war zone, plagued with constant fear and a belief that everyone is out to get them, instead of being protective members of a community.

Yeah, I remember several years back, I think CNN or someone was speaking to a former soldier, and he said he thought it was ludicrous that when he was serving in a foreign country, surrounded by people who he knew for a fact wanted to kill him, he had tighter rules of engagement than American police officers

Yeah, I remember several years back, I think CNN or someone was speaking to a former soldier, and he said he thought it was ludicrous that when he was serving in a foreign country, surrounded by people who he knew for a fact wanted to kill him, he had tighter rules of engagement than American police officers.

I thought it was a parody after he did those two Dark Souls dodge rolls

but this is not an accurate statement. Idk why we live by the word of someone CNN interviewed. Military ROEs isnt a blanket policy. The rules of engagement are determined by each mission. That means you can have a different ROE every day maybe even twice a day. And theres even less accountability. Theres no body camera or witnesses in places we deployed.

I remember a staff sergeant telling me how they found a box of grenades in the desert and were just throwing them out their humvee, hot, as they were driving through villages

this comment sums it up well

Rules of engagement are different. Military has usually three modes: return fire, cease fire or shoot at will. And a mission. When they're sitting at base or defending an object, they're defensive aka return fire mode. When they're attacking, depends if they're in hostile area or not. If they're scouring civilian settlement for enemy combatants, it's usually return fire mode, if they're attacking, it's fire-at-will. It comes with a mission.

For police, ROE changes all the time rapidly. A traffic stop could turn into a shootout in seconds, so return fire is their default "mode". Mission for police is simpler: stay alive, protect (unarmed) civilians. So they have more flexibility in this. Of course, it makes their situation also more dynamic and prone to mistakes.

Important difference is also that military usually has some form of hierarchy present. There's commanders and leaders to take responsibility and give orders (unless they get shot, but that's likely a free-fire situation anyway). Nobody's sending just bunch of privates to a mission.

Police patrol doesn't have such luxury. They don't have time to radio to their commanders whenever situation gets hot. For serious conflicts and if there's time, they do, however, like if it's visible that suspect barricaded themselves in a house or took hostages or whatever.

this guy literally did 3 barrel rolls in real life and unloaded on the first person he saw?

dude literally saying common everyday police work is more dangerous than military in enemy territory....

dude literally saying common everyday police work is more dangerous than military in enemy territory....

dude literally saying common everyday police work is more dangerous than military in enemy territory....

Yes.

What edgelord stuff wtf. The problem is, Im actually posting statistics and actual life experiences and y'all just trolling. Its impossible to ever have a legit conversation

you are trolling claiming police work is more dangerous than the military

HOLY

It is inherently more dangerous and its not like a gotcha. Its weird that youre not rationalizing this. The military is currently in peace mode. 99 percent of the military is stateside in bases. Like what are you talking about? Do you think its the movies? Do you think the whole military is just out there in constant gunfights? Majority of the military jobs are not combat jobs. The people seeing combat are specialized units and its still not what you think either.

Its not like a bragging thing. But the nature of the work of a patrol officer is inherently more dangerous than an 18 year supply specialist in the army stationed at fort bliss

youre a fucking moron if you think anyone is talking about pogs when discussing how the military is more dangerous than being a cop

And 99 percent of the military are pogs? And even infantry units have a slight chance of seeing combat if theyre deployed. Why are you just sitting here lying lol. Especially these days when theres extremely reduced capacity of infantry in the Middle East.

he said the military not, deployed special forces in gunfights. The reality is. The majority of the military is standing around rooms chilling stateside

"Hit?"
"I don't know. Felt like it."

Least he resigned and they acknowledged his actions were unreasonable lol.

I'm catching up with the topic, obviously, but did they acknowledge that he acted exactly in accordance with his training, too?

DP continuing to lick the something of cops, shocker.

This incident is from 3 months ago. Why is it now coming to light?

Because the standard has to be and is held different. I mean thats obvious. That comes with good and bad. In terms of perks and punishments for abusing your position

he lost his career

Dude didn't even know what he was shooting at, he was just shooting and hoping he hits something.

Two cops unloaded their magazines and (thankfully) didn't even hit their target once. Probably should have trained them how to roll, too.

He did face responsibility, he lost his career and is probably fucked now. There is no follow up yet on court information if the city is pursuing charges

Leaving aside the tangent of military danger vs police danger, are you saying that him resigning (not being fired) is sufficient "facing responsibility"? That the city shouldn't follow up on charges that like would be done for a civilian?

1. Police are civilians. They usually don't like to be reminded of that, but they are still very much civilians.
2. If an active duty military officer did some crazy shit like this, I feel like there would be some pretty severe punishment. Probably not a discharge though. I could see them being sent for a psych evaluation.

Leaving aside the tangent of military danger vs police danger, are you saying that him resigning (not being fired) is sufficient "facing responsibility"? That the city shouldn't follow up on charges that like would be done for a civilian?

1) be stupid enough to mistake a ACORN for a gunshot.

2) Be cold to empty all your ammo, going for the kill. These are not shots to defend yourself, these are not shots to protect others, this is shooting to f***ing KILL.

3) Don't give a f*** about the guy you shot at right now at all. Maybe he dead. Maybe he bleeding to death right now, fighting for his life, every single second. Who knows? Who cares? Not the cops.

Leaving aside the tangent of military danger vs police danger, are you saying that him resigning (not being fired) is sufficient "facing responsibility"? That the city shouldn't follow up on charges that like would be done for a civilian?