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texanfan27
03/12/24 9:12:53 AM
#251:


Broccoli is designed to be eaten, even though to kids they think its poison. no parents feeds their kid veges to make them sick, intent is a good diet

Again it comes down to intent, her intent was to make the bully feel discomfort to stop him from stealing her sons lunch.

and obviously the school should be handling bullies, but they dont.

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CheshireSimper
03/12/24 9:18:17 AM
#252:


The same discomfort that this child experienced is the same discomfort a child forced to eat broccoli experiences. Yucky.

I think the precedent this sets makes it so that anytime a child shares food and another student doesn't like it, the parent of that other child can try to get the parent jailed. Seems bad.
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codey
03/12/24 9:23:41 AM
#253:


texanfan27 posted...
Broccoli is designed to be eaten, even though to kids they think its poison. no parents feeds their kid veges to make them sick, intent is a good diet

Again it comes down to intent, her intent was to make the bully feel discomfort to stop him from stealing her sons lunch.

and obviously the school should be handling bullies, but they dont.

she made a salad dressing dude

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CheshireSimper
03/12/24 9:26:18 AM
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Also, idk if you've ever been to a middle school, but the chances that on any given day these boys host a salad dressing chugging contests during lunch is non-zero.
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supermichael11
03/12/24 9:34:30 AM
#255:


codey posted...
she made a salad dressing dude

She needed to resort to that idea, since the school doesn't nothing about bullies. They treat bully problem like it is nothing.

Why doesn't the school take action, before things escalate. The bully steals, but it is obvious the school took no action.
Only when the victim does something, then the school take action but not on the bully but the victim.

Bully they normally get away, which is what is wrong with school.

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Compsognathus
03/12/24 9:36:10 AM
#256:


Her mistake was talking to the police. She shouldn't have admitted shit about her intentions. Maybe her son just likes super-electrolyte infused Gatorade on occasion. He can drink what he wants even if it is kinda gross.

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famfam
03/12/24 9:43:32 AM
#257:


id give a shit if it wasn't literal salad dressing
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RetuenOfDevsman
03/12/24 9:50:46 AM
#258:


CheshireSimper posted...
Parents forcing their children to eat broccoli should probably be on a look out for an onslaught of court cases then.
To be fair, we probably should.

I mean, you heard about the guy who used his parents for giving birth to him, right?
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mustachedmystic
03/12/24 10:09:29 AM
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The school iaa da required to provide an environment conducive to learning. They dont. She needs to sue.

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Mearcstapa
03/12/24 10:11:47 AM
#261:


Force the bully to chug a whole bottle of that shit.

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zammox
03/12/24 10:20:47 AM
#262:


Compsognathus posted...
Her mistake was talking to the police. She shouldn't have admitted shit about her intentions. Maybe her son just likes super-electrolyte infused Gatorade on occasion. He can drink what he wants even if it is kinda gross.
admitting that she made the drink knowing the bully was going to steal it was a mistake. Play dumb, deny all knowledge of the drink being weird. How are they going to prove intention without a mind reader or a time machine?!

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Frolex
03/12/24 10:24:23 AM
#263:


This is why you never talk to the cops. If the mom hadn't said anything there would have been no way to prove the kid was on some juice cleanse, he grabbed the wrong thermos, or he just liked that specific taste combination and there would have been no case. But when the mom admitted she tampered with the drink with the intent of someone else drinking it, she confessed to a crime.

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Paragon21XX
03/12/24 11:05:38 AM
#264:


texanfan27 posted...
Only thing I could consider is an allergen to lemons possibly? Only way I can see this leading to the hospital, but sadly the mom did cross the line by using a gross homemade drink.

And this does meet the standard of poisoning even if non lethal, as this could be seen as intent to injure by making him sick.

this from Texas law
It wasn't intended to make him sick.

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DemonicChaosXX
03/12/24 1:03:01 PM
#265:


hockeybabe89 posted...
So I'm not clear. Was the bully tricked into drinking this or not?
The bully steals the kids lunch a lot. So he was "Tricked" by his own bullying.

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Baha05
03/12/24 1:53:05 PM
#266:


zammox posted...
admitting that she made the drink knowing the bully was going to steal it was a mistake. Play dumb, deny all knowledge of the drink being weird. How are they going to prove intention without a mind reader or a time machine?!
By the fact it was in the container? Because one way or another the victims here are going to get in trouble be it the parent or child.

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DystopiaMan
03/12/24 1:57:19 PM
#267:


DrizztLink posted...
Generally speaking, you can't do the sitcom "oh I'll just poison the food getting stolen" because you legally can't poison people.

Full stop.

Like, punish the bully, obviously, but this ain't it.

"Full stop" lmao

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Baha05
03/12/24 2:39:48 PM
#269:


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To an extent though at the same time that could have easily just been made to be a vegetable shake or something put into a none clear thermos and it would still serve the same purpose and the fact is if they are stealing drinks then as long as its not harmful there is no foul. Hell even with allergies.

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Nemu
03/12/24 2:47:34 PM
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People need to be a bit smarter when tampering with food. As long as it's something that someone could theoretically consume and it's not a situation that requires mandatory labeling, then it falls on the thief's shoulders. Doctor approved laxatives are probably the best choice.
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VirtuousWrath
03/12/24 2:51:51 PM
#273:


DystopiaMan posted...
"Full stop" lmao
"Full stop" is one of the CE buzzwords/phrases you see a lot.

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DrizztLink
03/12/24 3:24:41 PM
#274:


DystopiaMan posted...
"Full stop" lmao

VirtuousWrath posted...
"Full stop" is one of the CE buzzwords/phrases you see a lot.
Please continue reading the topic to have your "points" addressed, I'm not dancing this dance again.

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VirtuousWrath
03/12/24 3:51:31 PM
#275:


DrizztLink posted...
Please continue reading the topic to have your "points" addressed, I'm not dancing this dance again.
So you're saying that you... came to a full stop?

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GrandConjuraton
03/12/24 3:53:13 PM
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PballDepot posted...
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Rika_Furude
03/12/24 4:23:43 PM
#278:


Glob posted...
Then youre just arguing in bad faith.

Im sorry if you had a bad experience of school. I also wont deny that there are instances out there of schools absolutely failing the students when it comes to bullying.

However, assuming thats the case with absolutely no evidence to support it is not a tenable position.
Its the most reasonable position since its the most likely truth. Arguing otherwise is whats actually bad faith.
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VirtuousWrath
03/12/24 4:34:17 PM
#279:


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I don't care what he said. I just chimed in that "full stop" is one of those CE-isms.

Full. Stop, chud bud.

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Glob
03/12/24 7:13:07 PM
#281:


Rika_Furude posted...
Its the most reasonable position since its the most likely truth. Arguing otherwise is whats actually bad faith.

Its absolutely not. You just want it to be because it suits your narrative.

Its just as likely that the school has been told and has used appropriate sanctions, or that the victim hasnt told the school because it implicates him in situations where his behaviour wasnt great, or any number of other scenarios.

I work in schools. I know how they operate. You seem to be basing your entire position off of a bad experience youve had.
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DrizztLink
03/12/24 7:36:15 PM
#282:


Nemu posted...
Doctor approved laxatives are probably the best choice.
That one absolutely would be considered poisoning.

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supermichael11
03/12/24 7:52:18 PM
#283:


Glob posted...
Its absolutely not. You just want it to be because it suits your narrative.

Its just as likely that the school has been told and has used appropriate sanctions, or that the victim hasnt told the school because it implicates him in situations where his behaviour wasnt great, or any number of other scenarios.

I work in schools. I know how they operate. You seem to be basing your entire position off of a bad experience youve had.

I am aware that every school is different, but from what I have seen the teacher cares more about clothes than bullies.
If a person uses a clothes that isn't school related, then they are not allowed to go to school. They will get sent home.

If a student goes through a corridor that is one way, they can get into trouble and even detention for going the wrong way.
A teacher can go any direction without any problem.

A student bullying others they only get told off and nothing else. Telling the teacher over and over nothing happens.

Basically bullying for the teacher is considered low priority, while wearing the right clothes and going the right way through corridor is top priority.

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Antiyonder
03/12/24 7:54:57 PM
#284:


supermichael11 posted...
Basically bullying for the teacher is considered low priority, while wearing the right clothes and going the right way through corridor is top priority.

And even then they show concern if the bully gets a taste of their own medicine.

Edit: Meant to say show instead of should.

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supermichael11
03/12/24 7:57:37 PM
#285:


Antiyonder posted...
And even then they should concern if the bully gets a taste of their own medicine.

Once the victim takes action, then the teacher target the victim instead of the bully.
Stealing I can't comment on that, I don't recall anyone stealing.

My point is the victim shouldn't feel the need to take action if the teacher does their job.

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Antiyonder
03/12/24 8:02:21 PM
#286:


supermichael11 posted...
Once the victim takes action, then the teacher target the victim instead of the bully.
Stealing I can't comment on that, I don't recall anyone stealing.

I just meant in general, not just the noted incident.

Yeah it's hard for me not to think these people are or probably have been bullies themselves.

Especially cause people who don't take issue seem to think it's more of a character building ritual than signs of problematic behavior.


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GrungeLink
03/12/24 8:06:28 PM
#287:


I feel like it would've been easy for the mom to not have gotten in trouble. Like why didn't the bullied kid just tell the school that he made the concoction and didn't think anyone would drink it. Like did he just tell on his mom?

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Baha05
03/12/24 8:09:02 PM
#288:


GrungeLink posted...
I feel like it would've been easy for the mom to not have gotten in trouble. Like why didn't the bullied kid just tell the school that he made the concoction and didn't think anyone would drink it. Like did he just tell on his mom?
Pretty much. Though arguably the biggest issue would be proving things.

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Glob
03/12/24 8:12:51 PM
#289:


supermichael11 posted...
I am aware that every school is different, but from what I have seen the teacher cares more about clothes than bullies.
If a person uses a clothes that isn't school related, then they are not allowed to go to school. They will get sent home.

If a student goes through a corridor that is one way, they can get into trouble and even detention for going the wrong way.
A teacher can go any direction without any problem.

A student bullying others they only get told off and nothing else. Telling the teacher over and over nothing happens.

Basically bullying for the teacher is considered low priority, while wearing the right clothes and going the right way through corridor is top priority.

Im sorry that youve had that experience, but it is not reflective of all schools and teachers.

supermichael11 posted...
Once the victim takes action, then the teacher target the victim instead of the bully.
Stealing I can't comment on that, I don't recall anyone stealing.

My point is the victim shouldn't feel the need to take action if the teacher does their job.

Ive heard lots of people claim this on this board and it doesnt really make sense. Do they care or not?

The victim still needs to report things. Also, tackling bullying is not always a simple matter.
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LeadPipeCinche
03/12/24 10:18:54 PM
#290:


VirtuousWrath posted...
It's not tampering because the kid didn't offer it to the bully. The bully willingly chose to drink something they knew wasn't theirs. Tampering implies the kid offered it.


Doesn't matter.
She tampered with it with intent.
She knew the bully would take it, so she spiked the drink with whatever.

Itd no different than if you make lunch and take it to work. You made a sandwich with literal shit on bread because you know someone else is stealing your lunch. Bam tampering with intent.

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1337toothbrush
03/12/24 10:50:42 PM
#291:


LeadPipeCinche posted...
Doesn't matter.
She tampered with it with intent.
She knew the bully would take it, so she spiked the drink with whatever.

Itd no different than if you make lunch and take it to work. You made a sandwich with literal shit on bread because you know someone else is stealing your lunch. Bam tampering with intent.
This is lemon juice, salt, and vinegar. Nothing was "spiked", it's not "literal shit". You keep saying "with intent" but to what? Certainly not to harm because no one was harmed.

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uwnim
03/12/24 10:56:38 PM
#292:


The mom did literally nothing wrong.

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spriga
03/12/24 10:59:06 PM
#293:


Bully is a malfoy.

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mystic_belmont
03/12/24 11:22:49 PM
#294:


Bully stole drink, and it had salad dressing in it.

The bully will likely not steal anyone elses drink.

Mission accomplished.

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NhojAnec
03/12/24 11:50:06 PM
#295:


LeadPipeCinche posted...
Doesn't matter.
She tampered with it with intent.
She knew the bully would take it, so she spiked the drink with whatever.

Itd no different than if you make lunch and take it to work. You made a sandwich with literal shit on bread because you know someone else is stealing your lunch. Bam tampering with intent.

Yeah, no. That's not the same thing.

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Rika_Furude
03/12/24 11:51:02 PM
#296:


Glob posted...
Its absolutely not. You just want it to be because it suits your narrative.

Its just as likely that the school has been told and has used appropriate sanctions, or that the victim hasnt told the school because it implicates him in situations where his behaviour wasnt great, or any number of other scenarios.

I work in schools. I know how they operate. You seem to be basing your entire position off of a bad experience youve had.
Youre going to need to provide some evidence here. Its been well known that this is the general state of schools for a long time
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mystic_belmont
03/12/24 11:51:06 PM
#297:


LeadPipeCinche posted...
Itd no different than if you make lunch and take it to work. You made a sandwich with literal shit on bread because you know someone else is stealing your lunch. Bam tampering with intent.

If you steal my lunch, and later in the week I add a ton of spicy peppers, will I get in trouble?

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Glob
03/13/24 12:08:15 AM
#298:


Rika_Furude posted...
Youre going to need to provide some evidence here. Its been well known that this is the general state of schools for a long time

As somebody who works in schools, I refute your claim which youve provided no evidence for while asking me for evidence, despite me clearly having more extensive experience than you.

Theres no way you dont see the hypocrisy there. I thought you were just jaded from a bad experience but I can see now that youre just trolling for a reaction, so were done.
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Rika_Furude
03/13/24 12:10:53 AM
#299:


Glob posted...
As somebody who works in schools, I refute your claim which youve provided no evidence for while asking me for evidence, despite me clearly having more extensive experience than you.

Theres no way you dont see the hypocrisy there. I thought you were just jaded from a bad experience but I can see now that youre just trolling for a reaction, so were done.
??? I dont care what reaction you have. I stated my opinion on the topic and you disagreed. I know that Im right and Ive seen nothing to convince me otherwise. My opinion is based on decades of news articles of similar shit to this, its the same everywhere. Youre only looking for an argument, I never told you to do that.
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Baha05
03/13/24 1:00:10 AM
#300:


mystic_belmont posted...
If you steal my lunch, and later in the week I add a ton of spicy peppers, will I get in trouble?
If they get a tummy ache apparently so.

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