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Monolith1676 03/12/24 11:10:03 PM #1: |
https://www.kcra.com/article/california-bullet-train-project-funding-san-francisco-los-angeles/60181448
They need to cancel it and put the money into something else. 15 years and not one mile of track built. To think they said it would only cost millions when it was first pitched. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yawn_Master2 03/12/24 11:13:29 PM #2: |
The federal government should just step in and pay it, and get a small portion of the profits until it is paid off.
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Monolith1676 03/12/24 11:14:35 PM #3: |
Yawn_Master2 posted...
The federal government should just step in and pay it, and get a small portion of the profits until it is paid off. It would probably take a thousand years to pay off. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 03/12/24 11:18:13 PM #4: |
Guessing a large part of that is red tape that's expensive to get through.
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Umbreon 03/12/24 11:18:48 PM #5: |
Tax the rich to help pay for it.
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Touch 03/12/24 11:25:19 PM #6: |
As a Californian, I'll throw in tree fiddy
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mystic_belmont 03/12/24 11:27:30 PM #8: |
Monolith1676 posted...
It would probably take a thousand years to pay off. It's better for everyone to do it. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Monolith1676 03/12/24 11:31:00 PM #9: |
mystic_belmont posted...
It's better for everyone to do it. But only a small insignificant fraction of the state would use it. Ticket prices would have to be $100+ for each ticket. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dudebusters 03/12/24 11:31:01 PM #10: |
AlBundy33 posted...
Hmm since people from that shithole always boast about being the most well off state, and the US would fall apart without them(lmao) they should pay for it themselves Haven't had your nap and now you can't control yourself, I see. --- I beat Call of Duty 4. In one day. WHAT UP! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cornmuffins 03/12/24 11:44:50 PM #11: |
Where would you suggest the money goes? Prop 1?
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Mistere_Man 03/12/24 11:48:13 PM #12: |
If they do this they could get an Urban Outfitters!
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SomeLikeItHoth 03/12/24 11:48:55 PM #13: |
What will release first: The train to no where or Winds of Winter?
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BuzzKilljoy 03/12/24 11:49:25 PM #14: |
Rail projects are failing all over in dense urban areas because the costs keep rising exponentially over the costs that local bonds and whatnot are passed. Everybody wants it except the displaced property owners so you gotta have the money ready up front to get it done
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Northlane 03/12/24 11:57:42 PM #15: |
It's like less than 400 miles from SF to LA. $100 billion to complete so $250 million per mile? Spain built a high speed rail network for like 10 million Euros per kilometer
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Dakimakura 03/12/24 11:58:39 PM #16: |
I've already seen this episode of the Simpsons.
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SomeLikeItHoth 03/13/24 12:11:37 AM #17: |
Northlane posted...
It's like less than 400 miles from SF to LA.My co worker drove from San Jose to LA two weeks ago when his kids were out of school for the week and it took him less than 4 hours to get there. --- FAM FOREVER | https://iili.io/HSJO4Uv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RadDude9000 03/13/24 12:18:37 AM #18: |
We had a 100 bil-*gets shot*
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BunkerBoy 03/13/24 12:20:23 AM #19: |
TC living up to the tag as usual https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4f9037bf.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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runewalshPSiv 03/13/24 12:27:30 AM #20: |
Yawn_Master2 posted...
The federal government should just step in and pay it, and get a small portion of the profits until it is paid off. How about no. Umbreon posted... Tax the rich to help pay for it. Yes. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 03/13/24 12:27:57 AM #21: |
This has been the latest episode of "monolith tries to slam on california", please tune in next time for more self-righteous indignation!
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GranQroppoop 03/13/24 12:29:31 AM #22: |
Mistere_Man posted...
If they do this they could get an Urban Outfitters!Doodle-loo-loo-loo-loo-loo https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/92e89597.jpg --- Any last one-liners before I go ape on you? - Hoss Delgado Mmm, toast some marshmallows for me too Mailman.- Chris Paul ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 03/13/24 12:35:05 AM #23: |
BuzzKilljoy posted...
Rail projects are failing all over in dense urban areas because the costs keep rising exponentially over the costs that local bonds and whatnot are passed. Everybody wants it except the displaced property owners so you gotta have the money ready up front to get it doneNeed to eminent domain these projects. Just fucking build it. If it was an highway, it'd be built in an instant but we have so much red tape for rail --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RISEofCHRISTIAN 03/13/24 12:37:34 AM #24: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
My co worker drove from San Jose to LA two weeks ago when his kids were out of school for the week and it took him less than 4 hours to get there. Was he driving 150mph the entire time? --- I acknowledge my Tribal Chief! I love my Tribal Chief! https://i.imgur.com/bZaibn4.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlephZero 03/13/24 12:41:17 AM #25: |
Elon Musk could pay for the entire thing with just 1% of his wealth.
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BuzzKilljoy 03/13/24 12:43:34 AM #26: |
emblem-man posted...
Need to eminent domain these projects. Just fucking build it. --- Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 03/13/24 1:05:01 AM #27: |
Monolith1676 posted...
https://www.kcra.com/article/california-bullet-train-project-funding-san-francisco-los-angeles/60181448So a few things:
SomeLikeItHoth posted... My co worker drove from San Jose to LA two weeks ago when his kids were out of school for the week and it took him less than 4 hours to get there.Going the speed limit, that drive takes like 5.5 hours. To make that in under 4 hours, he had to have been going 85+ the whole way. If your co-worker has kids, then shouldn't be putting his life at risk by speeding like that. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 03/13/24 2:36:58 AM #28: |
$100 billion over 10 years. California's GDP over that same time will be like $40 trillion. We'll be fine here in California. Hell, tax me an extra $10 a year if you must, California. I'll gladly pay it to get HSR built.
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Zwijn 03/13/24 2:40:41 AM #29: |
Could someone explain to me why many people say rail is not a fitting type of transport for the US? Is it because it is a union of states with their own regulations? Thats a thing in Europe as well and rail is one of our main forms of public transport. The US has a lot of non-urbanized areas but even then there is a lot of urban area as well and rail doesnt seem to be liked that much there either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 03/13/24 6:18:12 AM #30: |
Northlane posted...
It's like less than 400 miles from SF to LA. $100 billion to complete so $250 million per mile? Spain built a high speed rail network for like 10 million Euros per kilometerIt can be extremely difficult to get things built. Like CEQA adds massive amounts of time and cost to projects. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 03/13/24 6:23:07 AM #31: |
Monolith1676 posted...
But only a small insignificant fraction of the state would use it. Ticket prices would have to be $100+ for each ticket.So you're 100% against the entire idea. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 03/13/24 6:24:28 AM #32: |
Zwijn posted...
Could someone explain to me why many people say rail is not a fitting type of transport for the US? Is it because it is a union of states with their own regulations? Thats a thing in Europe as well and rail is one of our main forms of public transport. The US has a lot of non-urbanized areas but even then there is a lot of urban area as well and rail doesnt seem to be liked that much there either.Car centric infrastructure makes it hard to pull off rail. Train stations are more likely to be surrounded by parking instead of by businesses and housing, which decreases the value of the train. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Northlane 03/13/24 5:13:07 PM #33: |
Zwijn posted...
Could someone explain to me why many people say rail is not a fitting type of transport for the US? Is it because it is a union of states with their own regulations? Thats a thing in Europe as well and rail is one of our main forms of public transport. The US has a lot of non-urbanized areas but even then there is a lot of urban area as well and rail doesnt seem to be liked that much there either.The general populace want HSR for medium distance travel but it's tough when you got billionaires who try to kill public transit projects wherever there are whispers. Shades of the 1950s where the automotive industry successfully lobbied cities to remove street cars and trolleys so they can sell more cars. ex: Hyperloop and Elon's "will be faster and built for a fraction of the cost" claim was literally fabricated to sabotage California's HSR project --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 03/13/24 5:37:05 PM #34: |
Northlane posted...
The general populace want HSR for medium distance travel but it's tough when you got billionaires who try to kill public transit projects wherever there are whispers. Shades of the 1950s where the automotive industry successfully lobbied cities to remove street cars and trolleys so they can sell more cars.I'll note that it's not just billionaires who kill these projects. Many regular people do it by abusing zoning laws and environmental regulations to slow down building --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 03/13/24 5:41:19 PM #35: |
Northlane posted... It's like less than 400 miles from SF to LA. $100 billion to complete so $250 million per mile? Spain built a high speed rail network for like 10 million Euros per kilometer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 03/13/24 5:45:21 PM #36: |
emblem-man posted...
I'll note that it's not just billionaires who kill these projects. Many regular people do it by abusing zoning laws and environmental regulations to slow down buildingElon literally killed the one in California. His reasons were 'People really shouldn't be on trains with other people" --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 03/13/24 5:47:09 PM #37: |
ClayGuida posted...
Elon literally killed the one in California. His reasons were 'People really shouldn't be on trains with other people"Not denying that about Elon. Just mentioning that like in housing, people abusing zoning and regulations to stop or slow down building things happens as well. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MyMainAccount 03/13/24 5:49:42 PM #38: |
Monolith1676 posted...
But only a small insignificant fraction of the state would use it. Ticket prices would have to be $100+ for each ticket.Is your source for that "I made it up"? --- My Real Blog https://veryrealwow.wixsite.com/website Send a PM with questions and I will reply on my blog. If desired, request a pseudonym. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lillymon 03/13/24 5:55:55 PM #39: |
BunkerBoy posted...
TC living up to the tag as usualYoink. --- "Bothering people when they're shopping or going to work or whatever because you find them attractive makes you scum of the earth." MegatokyoEd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 03/13/24 5:57:54 PM #40: |
Monolith being dishonest and ill informed about something he's whining about? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TendoDRM 03/13/24 6:35:10 PM #41: |
Anyone who's had to drive I5 from SF to LA should be a big proponent for the HSR being completed and expanded.
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kelemvor 03/13/24 7:07:16 PM #42: |
So Florida has the only high speed rail in the country, right? I hear they are expanding Brightline to Tampa in the coming years. I'm flying into Ft. Lauderdale to save a $100 over flying into MIA and I'm going to take a Brightline down the rest of the way in a few weeks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 03/13/24 10:42:08 PM #44: |
kelemvor posted...
So Florida has the only high speed rail in the country, right? I hear they are expanding Brightline to Tampa in the coming years.I want to be such an ass >_> ...also, the guy before me just deleted his post so now it looks like I bumped this boo --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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