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CADE_FOSTER
04/09/24 5:07:46 PM
#51:


bet we still wont pack the courts with a huge win in 2024 dems need to be united but they always have that one or two clowns that are def republicans
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Error1355
04/09/24 5:23:48 PM
#52:


Fuck the GOP. Fuck fascism.

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mystic_belmont
04/09/24 5:28:11 PM
#53:


Kradek posted...
It is rather amusing that Kari Lake freaked out over this, saying she disagreed and it needs to be overturned, after agreeing with Trump yesterday on whatever his position of the day was for abortion.

She's on the record with wanting the old law.

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DrizztLink
04/09/24 5:29:32 PM
#54:


mystic_belmont posted...
She's on the record with wanting the old law.
It doesn't matter what her record is, she's not acting from a position of logic.

Just whatever she's told to think.

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DarkAssassin89
04/09/24 5:31:21 PM
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Good. The government of today has no business telling us how to live our lives. The government of 150 years ago has already done that.

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Xenogears15
04/09/24 5:32:40 PM
#56:


Gritty posted...
When republicans lose the presidency and congress this year they only have themselves to blame

The Senate is likely lost, due simply to the math involved. No Democrat is getting elected in WV again, and Texas will not likely elect a Dem senator. One of those two will have to give AND Dems will have to successfully defend every other seat in order to retain control of the Senate.

To 2026, then.

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Shadow_Don
04/09/24 5:33:59 PM
#57:


SilvosForever posted...
The GOP vision for the country people.

But please. Continue to say both sides are the same.

Biden is president while this happened therefore both sides

Obviously /s

But some "progressives" actually make that argument dead serious

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Kradek
04/09/24 5:41:37 PM
#58:


DrizztLink posted...
It doesn't matter what her record is, she's not acting from a position of logic.

Just whatever she's told to think.

Exactly. She's fearful because she says how the issue has hurt Republicans in even red states. Blake Masters also deleted everything about abortion on his page after the Dobbs decision, as if people would just forget lol.

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Takuya_Lee
04/09/24 5:46:08 PM
#59:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Doesn't matter. "Why I left the left" is always an easy grift to get money out of chuds.

Not for her due to how she identifies.

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CanardElastique
04/09/24 6:00:03 PM
#60:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/951c276c.jpg
More like

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/eb869d8e.jpg

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Harpie
04/09/24 6:26:38 PM
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Last year I was living in a state with a total abortion ban, and it had some pretty serious consequences for me.

I wasnt preggo or seeking an abortion- all I needed was someone to treat a UTI. Which is a simple problem that can be treated with antibiotics that Id usually get at a quick visit with Planned Parenthood.

But since the state I was in banned abortions, they also shut down/burned down the Planned Parenthood clinics. So I deferred treatment hoping itd get better, since I didnt have health insurance and couldnt afford an UC or ER. So I just hoped itd work itself out..

It didnt work itself out. Fast forward a week and the UTI worsened to the point where it was turning into sepsis. Went to UC, spent 5 hours there to be told they couldnt do anything and to drink cranberry juice. Next day I had to literally be carried into the ER because I couldnt stand; I stayed overnight because I was very close to going into septic shock.

Hospital bill was over $2500. The antibiotics from Planned Parenthood wouldve been under $50.

Abortion bans affect womens health care in ways many wouldnt expect.

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DrizztLink
04/09/24 6:28:04 PM
#62:


Harpie posted...
Abortion bans affect womens health care in ways many wouldnt expect.
Oh, they expect them.

The cruelty is the entire point.

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wackyteen
04/09/24 6:31:06 PM
#63:


Harpie posted...


Abortion bans affect womens health care in ways many wouldnt expect.
"Your suffering is just a small price to pay to stop aborted babies!" - some knuckle dragger

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Heineken14
04/09/24 6:32:13 PM
#64:


wackyteen posted...
"Your suffering is just a small price to pay to stop aborted babies!" - some knuckle dragger

Nah, they do that shit where they pretend to super duper totes care and say that they believe in exceptions to... stuff and junk... but then they spit in your face and keep voting for the absolute worst people in humanity that keep doing shit like this.

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streamofthesky
04/09/24 6:33:13 PM
#65:


Xenogears15 posted...
The Senate is likely lost, due simply to the math involved. No Democrat is getting elected in WV again, and Texas will not likely elect a Dem senator. One of those two will have to give AND Dems will have to successfully defend every other seat in order to retain control of the Senate.

To 2026, then.
Medicare fraud Rick Scott is up for re-election in FL along w/ abortion and weed.
There's a chance we reclaim that Senate seat. Hopefully FL Dems get someone decent this time.
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Anteaterking
04/09/24 6:38:22 PM
#66:


Takuya_Lee posted...
I can't either. The Arizona Supreme Court learned nothing from the overturning of Roe .

What should they have learned? The Supreme Court overturned it and it is still just as overturned today.

That was a decades long process, they're okay losing a few elections here and there in exchange.

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Unsuprised_Pika
04/09/24 6:47:44 PM
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They just boosted Biden's chances of keeping Arizona in 2024.


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TheOtherMike
04/09/24 6:48:34 PM
#68:


The Republican Party is literally a terrorist organization.

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Harpie
04/09/24 7:01:07 PM
#69:


DrizztLink posted...
Oh, they expect them.

The cruelty is the entire point.
It seems like such a strange hill to die on, considering the vast majority of Americans are against total abortion bans

wackyteen posted...
"Your suffering is just a small price to pay to stop aborted babies!" - some knuckle dragger
My suffering is an understatement lol, at one point I was genuinely worried that I was gonna die. I was bouncing between burning hot to being so cold that my back was seizing up from shivering, my kidney felt like someone was slicing into it with a hot knife, vomiting, shaking, sweating etc. Everytime I tried to stand I collapsed to the ground because of the pain and because I felt so weak.
Luckily my bf at the time was with me and carried me to the car, and into the ER because I definitely could not have gone there myself

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Humble_Novice
04/09/24 7:12:24 PM
#70:


Unsuprised_Pika posted...
They just boosted Biden's chances of keeping Arizona in 2024.
This.

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ThePieReborn
04/09/24 7:34:23 PM
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Something I found morbidly funny is that this law predates women's suffrage.

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pikakaeru
04/09/24 7:35:09 PM
#72:


Jail and disbar all of them.

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darkace77450
04/09/24 7:39:09 PM
#73:


ThePieReborn posted...
Something I found morbidly funny is that this law predates women's suffrage.

Women in Arizona are restricted in the healthcare they can receive by a law that was written by men working under candlelight because the light bulb wouldn't be invented for another 15 years.
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ScazarMeltex
04/09/24 8:05:47 PM
#74:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Not for her due to how she identifies.
Caitlyn Jenner exists. It's always possible to grift chuds especially when they can hold you up as "one of the good ones".

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CyborgSage00x0
04/09/24 8:56:10 PM
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lol at the courts agreeing with a law that predates emancipation, women being able to vote, and AZ even being a fucking state. No, really, laws before a state was even a state should be null and void outright. Abortion was literally psuedo-medicine when this law was may that had a high chance of killing or injuring the woman.

The Chief Justice and the Vice Chief Justice dissented, interestingly enough. Or not, when you recall AZ recently expanded and packed their SC with Right-wing stooges.

The Right is the enemy of the people and needs to be treated as such. The silver lining here is this basically makes AZ a hold to stay Blue.

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metralo
04/09/24 8:57:18 PM
#76:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Whats going on over in Arizona. Is it something in the water?


conservatism and their hatred for women and non white men

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mystic_belmont
04/09/24 11:17:29 PM
#77:


metralo posted...
conservatism and their hatred for women and non white men

They think white people are being replaced, so they want to restrict access to birth control, not realizing that:

A) This can and will result in more babies being born, regardless of ethnicity

and:

B) Women nearly dying from sepsis will result in infertility, thus defeating the entire point of all of this.

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SpawnShadow
04/09/24 11:25:40 PM
#78:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Caitlyn Jenner exists. It's always possible to grift chuds especially when they can hold you up as "one of the good ones".
At least, it's possible for as long as the chuds still have a use for you. Once they no longer need "one of the good ones" around, Jenner will be shipped off to the gas chambers just like all the other LGBTQ+ people in Project 2025's vision of America. I bet dollars to donuts she'll have the gall to act surprised, thinking that her fascist pals somehow wouldn't betray her the same way she betrayed the LGBTQ+ community in siding with Team Fash.
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Zaltera
04/10/24 12:02:46 AM
#79:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Whats going on over in Arizona. Is it something in the water?

https://twitter.com/JeanneCasteen/status/1777462284396437816

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Revelation34
04/10/24 12:41:09 AM
#80:


Sir_Will posted...

That's the kind of attitude that led to this in the first place.


Is it possible to skip voting for a president on the ballot?

Harpie posted...
Last year I was living in a state with a total abortion ban, and it had some pretty serious consequences for me.

I wasnt preggo or seeking an abortion- all I needed was someone to treat a UTI. Which is a simple problem that can be treated with antibiotics that Id usually get at a quick visit with Planned Parenthood.

But since the state I was in banned abortions, they also shut down/burned down the Planned Parenthood clinics. So I deferred treatment hoping itd get better, since I didnt have health insurance and couldnt afford an UC or ER. So I just hoped itd work itself out..

It didnt work itself out. Fast forward a week and the UTI worsened to the point where it was turning into sepsis. Went to UC, spent 5 hours there to be told they couldnt do anything and to drink cranberry juice. Next day I had to literally be carried into the ER because I couldnt stand; I stayed overnight because I was very close to going into septic shock.

Hospital bill was over $2500. The antibiotics from Planned Parenthood wouldve been under $50.

Abortion bans affect womens health care in ways many wouldnt expect.


It's especially moronic since people never understood that Planned Parenthood's abortions were privately funded while everything else that had nothing to do with abortion was federally funded.

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Doom_Art
04/10/24 7:29:23 AM
#81:


Revelation34 posted...
Is it possible to skip voting for a president on the ballot?
You can leave that part of the ballot blank but fill out everything else iirc

But you may as well just vote for a candidate at the top of the ticket while you're there

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ScazarMeltex
04/10/24 7:34:30 AM
#82:


SpawnShadow posted...
At least, it's possible for as long as the chuds still have a use for you. Once they no longer need "one of the good ones" around, Jenner will be shipped off to the gas chambers just like all the other LGBTQ+ people in Project 2025's vision of America. I bet dollars to donuts she'll have the gall to act surprised, thinking that her fascist pals somehow wouldn't betray her the same way she betrayed the LGBTQ+ community in siding with Team Fash.
Oh absolutely. They always do.

Same thing will happen to Ben Shapiro, motherfucker is Jewish and has been carrying water for the Nazis for years. Candace Owens, anyone who doesn't meet the criteria will be toast once they no longer need them to help mainstream their bullshit.

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Block_that_Kick
04/10/24 9:05:56 AM
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Well, now that the GOP has gifted Arizona on a silver platter for the Democrats, Im feeling much much more comfortable about Bidens chances in November.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8cb87845.jpg

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Compsognathus
04/10/24 9:18:47 AM
#84:


Tyranthraxus posted...
She couldn't get the donors or she couldn't get enough donors to match the money she'll get from her job as an enlightened centrist grifter.
I also think the Border/Ukraine bill just completely broke her. She was one of the main architects of the Senate's bipartisan bill. It got through the Senate just to ne murdered in the crib by the GOP House for pure election politics reasons. I caught an interview of hers with NPR during the whole saga and she just sounded fundamentally defeated.

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Takuya_Lee
04/10/24 9:26:12 AM
#85:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Well, now that the GOP has gifted Arizona on a silver platter for the Democrats, Im feeling much much more comfortable about Bidens chances in November.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8cb87845.jpg

Put Nevada blue. We don't like 45 here

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Doom_Art
04/10/24 11:57:21 AM
#86:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Put Nevada blue. We don't like 45 here
The Reid Machine lives on

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Block_that_Kick
04/10/24 12:34:00 PM
#87:


Yeah, we know. Theyre called Republicans.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b7b82701.jpg

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CyborgSage00x0
04/10/24 1:30:43 PM
#88:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Well, now that the GOP has gifted Arizona on a silver platter for the Democrats, Im feeling much much more comfortable about Bidens chances in November.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8cb87845.jpg
Still no reason NV and WI should be Red there.

GA is also an interesting case. Has there been any reliable indication which way it will blow?

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ReiRei89
04/10/24 1:32:14 PM
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I do think it's weird how people swear NV is going red. Polls in NV are notoriously bad and I swear every damn election cycle we have people claim NV is flipping to the GOP only to surprise Pikachu face when it stays blue.

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hockeybabe89
04/10/24 1:32:18 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Yeah, we know. Theyre called Republicans.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b7b82701.jpg
"I would be extremely frustrated if I had less rights! But I'll still vote for you!"

What the fuck

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streamofthesky
04/10/24 1:35:46 PM
#91:


hockeybabe89 posted...
"I would be extremely frustrated if I had less rights! But I'll still vote for you!"

What the fuck
You could say that they're "very concerned", even
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Kradek
04/10/24 1:38:32 PM
#92:


mystic_belmont posted...
She's on the record with wanting the old law.

You know that doesn't matter for Republicans. So was Blake Masters on abortion and after Dobbs passed he scrubbed his page as if we'd all forget.

They will say whatever they need to say in the moment and by and large the electorate will accept whatever they're currently saying at face value, as will our feckless corporate media.

ThePieReborn posted...
Something I found morbidly funny is that this law predates women's suffrage.

For me it's that this law predates their statehood.

As Cyborg said, any laws made prior to statehood should be automatically thrown out and never again open for discussion.

Compsognathus posted...
I also think the Border/Ukraine bill just completely broke her. She was one of the main architects of the Senate's bipartisan bill. It got through the Senate just to ne murdered in the crib by the GOP House for pure election politics reasons. I caught an interview of hers with NPR during the whole saga and she just sounded fundamentally defeated.

Oh my, did she perhaps actually learn that her former Dem party weren't just a bunch of haters who refused to work with the GOP and came to discover just how vile and vindictive that party actually is?

Though I guess that would imply she was capable of learning lessons and I didn't see that during her time as a Senator.

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GranAures
04/10/24 1:39:56 PM
#93:


hockeybabe89 posted...
"I would be extremely frustrated if I had less rights! But I'll still vote for you!"

What the fuck
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CyborgSage00x0
04/10/24 1:40:05 PM
#94:


ReiRei89 posted...
I do think it's weird how people swear NV is going red. Polls in NV are notoriously bad and I swear every damn election cycle we have people claim NV is flipping to the GOP only to surprise Pikachu face when it stays blue.
No clue. Obama did win it both times by about 100k and then 70k, only for HRC take take it only by like 27k. But Biden rebounded somewhat and won by 33k.

So, the Trump infection did indeed hit, but no reason at all to think it would flip.

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Daniel_Berkhart
04/10/24 1:46:36 PM
#95:


1864 is almost 2 Joe Biden's ago.
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Doom_Art
04/10/24 1:51:58 PM
#96:


Daniel_Berkhart posted...
1864 is almost 2 Joe Biden's ago.
weird that that's your reaction lol

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mystic_belmont
04/10/24 1:54:15 PM
#97:


Daniel_Berkhart posted...
1864 is almost 2 Joe Biden's ago.

It's also almost 2 Trump's ago.

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Takuya_Lee
04/10/24 1:59:36 PM
#98:


CyborgSage00x0 posted...
No clue. Obama did win it both times by about 100k and then 70k, only for HRC take take it only by like 27k. But Biden rebounded somewhat and won by 33k.

So, the Trump infection did indeed hit, but no reason at all to think it would flip.

Agreed. Even though the governorship did go red, it was mostly due to the Covid response backlash.

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Daniel_Berkhart
04/10/24 2:09:01 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
It's also almost 2 Trump's ago.

Exactly. They say Trump and Biden are too old to be president but want women to follow a law that's double them? No thanks.
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andel
04/10/24 2:23:48 PM
#100:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Well, now that the GOP has gifted Arizona on a silver platter for the Democrats, Im feeling much much more comfortable about Bidens chances in November.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8cb87845.jpg

republicans are not winning wisconsin either

edit: trump specifically is not winning wisconsin. they have gotten repeatedly ratfucked by a gop supreme court and other blatantly gop gerrymandered shenanigans recently as well

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