Current Events > Pelosi Asks Gaza Campus Protesters to Target Both Israel and Hamas

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NoMeLx22x
04/28/24 7:31:16 PM
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This is the second time you've mentioned SJP as well. There's thousands and thousands of SJP chapters, and if there's some that are going too far, then they should be condemned and taught where that line is. But that doesnt mean that they're cause or goals should be undermined.

You completely ignored the part where you keep finding yourself going into these topics solely to harp on the protests and never saying anything about the counter protesters. You are always on the side criticizing the protests.

There's thousands and thousands of people protesting, and sure, you're going to have assholes that think too extreme in any protest. That doesn't make the protest invalid, and it doesn't mean that mindset is what the majority of people within the protests think, no matter how hard you're trying to paint it that way. The organizers talk about trying to reel the extreme protesters in, and see how unhelpful it is to their cause.

That's not even accounting for the amount of infiltrators that go into these protests and agitate from within to create the perception that there's a large amount of antisemitism.

There's plenty of stories about how Jewish activists feel completely safe in these protests as they have their passover meals and people come up to them super respectful and curious about their customs. It seems like you're either seeking out or only reading the information that corresponds to your bias.

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Shadow_Don
04/28/24 7:36:21 PM
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NoMeLx22x posted...
There's thousands and thousands of SJP chapters

Look up day of resistance toolkit. Thats what the literal national chapter put out.

The only thing that doesn't have me fully doomer pilled on them is I just kind of assume undergrads join because its the largest pro Palestinian group in universities and aren't really paying attention to the messages they put out

NoMeLx22x posted...
That doesn't make the protest invalid,

The protests are totally valid and appropriate and the police response has been terrible.

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hak145
04/28/24 7:43:32 PM
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lets be honest this fight is no longer about the genocide that is going and is now a battle against israel and to get their influence out of our higher institutions like it should be. Isnt it funny how you get axed everytime you go against israel and how no one is allowed to question israel or hold them accountable? The more israel fires people and attacks innocent people for doing nothing wrong the more enemies israel makes. Peope finally see how corrupt Israel is and how much disproportionate influence they have over the us.

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CervusCanadensi
04/28/24 7:44:45 PM
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Fuck HAMAS and fuck acts of cruelty
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emblem-man
04/28/24 7:49:20 PM
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hak145 posted...
lets be honest this fight is no longer about the genocide that is going

We should probably keep it focused on the war

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Necronmon
04/28/24 7:57:29 PM
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We should probably keep it focused on the war

If it keeps going its starting to think like pepole take the Protocols of Zion seriously...
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hak145
04/28/24 7:58:07 PM
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emblem-man posted...
We should probably keep it focused on the war
yes. anti genocide, anti hamas, and anti israel.

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Axiom
04/28/24 7:59:50 PM
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I mean sure but only one group is getting blacklisted for their views
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Necronmon
04/28/24 8:02:23 PM
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Another problem is that the very value of Palestine life is becoming a partisan value. Many republicans, not all, but most who vote for Trump seem to think that Gaza being wiped out " is what they deserve for 9 11" and want Israel to purge them all.

Its becoming a clash between those who want no one to die and those who want everyone not them to suffer and die...if Trump is in power its a safe bet he would help kill as many as possible.
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Humble_Novice
04/28/24 8:03:47 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Another problem is that the very value of Palestine life is becoming a partisan value. Many republicans, not all, but most who vote for Trump seem to think that Gaza being wiped out " is what they deserve for 9 11" and want Israel to purge them all.

Its becoming a clash between those who want no one to die and those who want everyone not them to suffer and die...if Trump is in power its a safe bet he would help kill as many as possible.
And this is something not many Palestine supporters stop to realize. Things can and will get worse under a Trump presidency.

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bfslick50
04/28/24 8:13:32 PM
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Necronmon posted...
Another problem is that the very value of Palestine life is becoming a partisan value. Many republicans, not all, but most who vote for Trump seem to think that Gaza being wiped out " is what they deserve for 9 11" and want Israel to purge them all.

Its becoming a clash between those who want no one to die and those who want everyone not them to suffer and die...if Trump is in power its a safe bet he would help kill as many as possible and make it America policy to bomb Palestine till they submit to living in a reservation or die.

Humble_Novice posted...
And this is something not many Palestine supporters stop to realize. Things can and will get worse under a Trump presidency.

So much worse

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Humble_Novice
04/28/24 8:15:14 PM
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bfslick50 posted...
So much worse
And the worst part is that these people will continue to blame Democrats for it even though their votes could have stopped Trump.

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famfam
04/28/24 8:18:51 PM
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one can dislike both hamas and dislike israel's war crimes. it shouldn't be that hard to understand
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Humble_Novice
04/28/24 8:19:30 PM
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famfam posted...
one can dislike both hamas and dislike israel's war crimes. it shouldn't be that hard to understand
I wholeheartedly agree.

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ItsChristian
04/28/24 8:23:02 PM
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Shadow_Don
04/30/24 12:23:36 AM
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Kradek posted...


@Kradek
day of resistance toolkit

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Kradek
04/30/24 6:40:04 PM
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Shadow_Don posted...
I dont have an issue with literally every word they say, I probably agree with a lot of it.

If you're still curious after work look up "day of resistance toolkit" which is a document the national chapter put out for all chapters to follow.

The chapter at my university outright said that oct 7 wasn't terrorism and that they supported resistance in all its forms.

Shadow_Don posted...
@Kradek
day of resistance toolkit

Thanks. So yeah that first paragraph comes off as rather deranged and pro-Hamas and the other terrorist groups who participated that day.

Shame, because I agree with pretty much all of their bullet points further down on the document.

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