Current Events > Is 30fps in a video game acceptable to you?

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I'll be honest, I cannot tell the difference. I don't fault anyone who can, but I personally just don't.

Not really. I mean I'll endure it if I absolutely have to, but it's 60fps minimum.

I honestly cant even tell the difference between 30 and 60.

I'll accept it for old games. On anything made in the PS4 era onwards its beyond pathetic though

The exception is very specifically games like South Park Stick of Truth which pick that FPS on purpose to achieve a particular art style.

Anyone that can't tell the difference needs to try using a TV or monitor made in the past 2 decades

Depends on the game.

These days not really. Console gamers dealt with it from the PS1, saturn and N64's 3D games up until the PS4, xbox one, wii u.......and the switch because thats just how things were, but the PS5 and xbox series x finally gave us the option to prefer performance in the system settings. Let each person decide if they want to lower resolution, reduce npcs walking around etc. and cut off shadows for better performance. Final fantasy 7 rebirth's "fuzzy" perfomance mode is fine to me since my really good TV helps deal with the picture....I would have been annoyed forced into 30fps with that one.

Also for crying out loud stop forcing ray-tracing on us....Gotham knights, final fantasy 16 (which i believe they eventually patched it to where you can cut it off thankfully), and that plague tale game weren't no better for it.

Rika_Furude posted...

The exception is very specifically games like South Park Stick of Truth which pick that FPS on purpose to achieve a particular art style.

Ah yeah I do agree with this though.

Nope. 60 is barely acceptable. After playing games at 80-120 anything less looks kind of shit.

I enjoyed PS5 Dragon's Dogma 2.

l just replayed StarWing on Snes, 13-15 fps!

People who say they cant tell a diff have to be trolling right?

Boot up any game, set settings to 60+ fps and play for an hour or two, set it down to 30fps and try playing again. You dont see a difference? No fucking shot

Mew posted...

People who say they cant tell a diff have to be trolling right?

Boot up any game, set settings to 60+ fps and play for an hour or two, set it down to 30fps and try playing again. You dont see a difference? No fucking shot

There's a difference when you compare them 1:1 after the other, but once you get used to 30, it doesn't really make the game feel much different. 60 looks smoother, but 30 is perfectly fine.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

There's a difference when you compare them 1:1 after the other, but once you get used to 30, it doesn't really make the game feel much different. 60 looks smoother, but 30 is perfectly fine.

I'm not saying which one is fine and which one isn't. I'm saying people who can't tell the difference? No way

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

60 is better but 30 is fine.

I think I'm a rarity, being able to tell the difference but not considering it the only thing in the universe that matters.

agree. Console user here. For most genres I don't care. But for things like racing, FPS, and fighting games, I'd prefer a stable 60.

Mew posted...

People who say they cant tell a diff have to be trolling right?

Boot up any game, set settings to 60+ fps and play for an hour or two, set it down to 30fps and try playing again. You dont see a difference? No fucking shot

Not trolling. Maybe if I watched a side by side comparison I could tell, but if Im playing a random game I wouldnt be able to tell you if its 30 or 60.

Not everyones eyes are the same:
https://qz.com/eyes-visual-temporal-resolution-research-suggests-1851382617

60fps in live action has a weird uncanny valley thing going on and I can usually tell

60fps in games I have a harder time with

I prefer 60fps but it's wild to me how people disbelieve that other people can't really tell the difference.

Some people can't. End of.

Im not sure I ever really notice. If you gave me two versions of the same game at 30 and 60, it would probably be noticeable, but its not something I really think about going fresh into a game if the frame rate is stable.

Nemu posted...

Im not sure I ever really notice. If you gave me two versions of the same game at 30 and 60, it would probably be noticeable, but its not something I really think about going fresh into a game if the frame rate is stable.

Yeah, if you handed me a controller and said "This one is 30" then handed me another and said "This on is 60" I could probably tell the difference. But I would never pass the FPS Pepsi Challenge.

Only on console. If a game is on PC then no, 60fps is the MINIMUM standard, but the expectation should be 120hz or 144hz

The difference is spotted as sort of a motion blur effect for me. Maybe if someone has a smaller or crappy TV/monitor they really can't tell much difference. Playing on a larger OLED I can spot differences in almost every setting.

I've put up with it for so long it doesn't really bother me too much now. But there's a big difference between that and 60+ and I much prefer the latter. However I usually bust the graphics to max and if it plays comfortably under 60 I'll roll with it.

Depends on the game, I'm not going to bitch over old games having this limitation. I'd say though, modern games need to be released with 60 as a baseline. One would think that 60+ would have become the standard by now yet here we are.

no way. the only exceptions are older games that literally can't run faster, like TMNT on NES is a 30fps game that i like.

depends entirely on the game. if its a jrpg i dont care, if its something like a shooter or an action game then no i need 60

i only put up with it when i have to. which is p much just bloodborne

its jarring at this point. i can get used to it but its distracting

If it's a constant 30, I can adapt. I usually play games around 60-80 these days, though.

Humans can't actually see 60fps. The people that argue in favour of it are clowns.

There are those who can tell the difference, those who can't, and those who claim they can but really can't.

Same goes with resolution. I worked at Best Buy in the early 2010's, and the number of dudes who came to buy TV's who just HAD to have 1080p to watch football was hilarious (because the NFL was broadcasting in 720p exclusively for years).

No, it feels terrible. The difference is like night and day.

If you really can't tell the difference just rotate the camera in 30fps mode vs 60fps. It's night and day.

I enjoy the blissful ignorance that comes with not being able to tell the difference between 30 or 60 fps or 720 or 1080 or 4K

for one, it saves me a bunch of money

DuuuDe14 posted...

No, it feels terrible. The difference is like night and day.

If you really can't tell the difference just rotate the camera in 30fps mode vs 60fps. It's night and day.

Yeah, I really noticed in Rebirth when I opened the menu and the camera pan across the characters felt fast af

I assume most of the games I play are in the 30 fps range because I still notice when a game is 60 fps. It's not something that bothers me and frankly I'm glad that I'm still able to enjoy games at 30 fps. It would suck if that was a deal-breaker for me

i feel like people who cant tell the difference between 30 and 60 dont play fast paced games. im not even a snob about it or anything, but you can absolutely tell when theres a lot of twitch gameplay that requires fast precise movement or aiming

Murphiroth posted...

I prefer 60fps but it's wild to me how people disbelieve that other people can't really tell the difference.

Some people can't. End of.

fair enough. Indeed.

ROB45 posted...

Humans can't actually see 60fps.

https://imgur.com/XUXEg66

HentaiMan posted...

https://imgur.com/XUXEg66

Is that a 60fps gif?

ROB45 posted...

Humans can't actually see 60fps. The people that argue in favour of it are clowns.

I remember when this was the standard argument for old gen consoles

Hejiru posted...

Is that a 60fps gif?

no it was just a reaction. distorted HMMM face : )

Mew posted...

I remember when this was the standard argument for old gen consoles

Makes it even funnier when most Nes and Snes games were 60 fps.

Well classic consoles were also running less demanding games and low res.

Peoples whose main problem with a game is the FPS just seem goofy to me. I see them as those monocle wearing stereotypes of rich snobs but in regards to video games.

Obviously inconsistent frame rate and frame drops is a HUGE issue but that isnt what we are talking about here.

Not really. There's no excuse to not be 60 minimum

Dakimakura posted...

People whose main problem with a game is the FPS just seem goofy to me. I see them as those monocle wearing stereotypes of rich snobs but in regards to video games.

Obviously inconsistent frame rate and frame drops is a HUGE issue but that isnt what we are talking about here.

FPS affects the quality of a game. If the first feeling you get when you see the animation in a game is Jesus Christ this looks jank obviously its going to taint whatever enjoyment the game otherwise might have had, in the same way bad controls would. Its a constant feel of this is terrible that doesnt go away.

I understand what youre trying to say about inconsistent FPS, but no, Id rather an inconsistent 40+ fps than a consistent 30fps

Dakimakura posted...

People whose main problem with a game is the FPS just seem goofy to me. I see them as those monocle wearing stereotypes of rich snobs but in regards to video games.

Obviously inconsistent frame rate and frame drops is a HUGE issue but that isnt what we are talking about here.

Is it that goofy to complain about poor performance?

Rika_Furude posted...

FPS affects the quality of a game. If the first feeling you get when you see the animation in a game is Jesus Christ this looks jank obviously its going to taint whatever enjoyment the game otherwise might have had, in the same way bad controls would. Its a constant feel of this is terrible that doesnt go away.

I understand what youre trying to say about inconsistent FPS, but no, Id rather an inconsistent 40+ fps than a consistent 30fps

reincarnator07 posted...

Is it that goofy to complain about poor performance?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/513f9830.png

Can someone answer a question for me?

my 3070 is getting up there in age way sooner than I wouldve expected (mainly due to 8gigs of VRAM not cutting it on brand new titles on high settings), so I cant just expect everything to run at 144 fps

should I just try to aim for as high as possible or should I do a multiple of 12, or 30, or whatever? Would a locked framerate at some random number like 97 feel worse to play than 72fps or 90, for example?

It is only okay for older games

It's fine, and I'm someone who can easily tell the difference. It will always be around in games because choosing 30fps or 60fps is a matter of the devs making the choice to aim for those framerates, not a matter of hardware.

I do feel bad for the people in here that apparently can't play >99.99% of games ever released, though, since the only locked 60fps games on consoles I can cite off the top of my head are Super Mario 3D World and F-Zero GX.
PraetorXyn posted...

It baffles me how so many people think frame rate is a matter of sight. Its a matter of feel. Low frame rates feel choppy, like you move and theres lag between when you press buttons or move the mouse and it actually happens.

It's also a matter of sight (movement is smoother). Some games just control like shit in the mud regardless, like Soulsborne games.