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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 5:35:00 PM
#1:


It's that time again, folks!

Rules:

--You must fill out a complete top 25 in order for your vote to be counted.

--You must fill out your own top 25. If you simply copy/paste someone else's list, I will discount it.

--Remember, this is meant to be an objective list of what you think are the top 25 strongest games in the contest, not what your personal favorite games are. Keep that in mind when voting.

--Voting will last for 24 hours.

--If you're not going to put some thought into your vote to the point that you say it's okay for me to discount your vote, then don't bother.

This week’s top 25 in action:

1. Chrono Trigger (9-0) – W, 36-8 vs. World of Goo
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (8-1) – W, 31-22 vs. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (9-0) – W, 34-8 vs. Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (9-0) – W, 46-9 vs. Gears of War
5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (9-0) – W, 32-9 vs. Star Ocean: The Second Story
6. Resident Evil 4 (9-0) – W, 35-16 vs. The World Ends With You
7. Super Mario 64 (8-1) – W, 41-13 vs. Gunstar Heroes
8. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (8-1) – W, 37-9 vs. Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee (7-2) – W, 31-10 vs. Brave Fencer Musashi
10. Super Mario World (8-1) – W, 29-16 vs. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
11. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (9-0) – W, 23-22 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
12. Paper Mario (9-0) – W, 30-19 vs. Xenogears
13. Metal Gear Solid (8-1) – W, 28-20 vs. Bioshock
14. Final Fantasy X (8-1) – W, 25-22 vs. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
15. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (8-1) – W, 30-15 vs. Mega Man 9
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (7-2) – W, 31-17 vs. Tales of Vesperia
17. Metroid Prime (8-1) – W, 36-16 vs. WWF No Mercy
18. Super Metroid (8-1) – W, 28-22 vs. Starcraft
19. Super Mario Galaxy (9-0) – W, 31-22 vs. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
20. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (8-1) – W, 31-24 vs. Super Smash Bros.
21. Final Fantasy VI (7-2) – W, 30-15 vs. F-Zero GX
22. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (8-1) – W, 23-20 vs. Super Street Fighter IV
23. Portal (8-1) – W, 42-11 vs. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
24. Final Fantasy IX (8-1) – W, 30-14 vs. Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
25. Mega Man 2 (9-0) – W, 23-18 vs. Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening

Also receiving votes:

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (8-1) – L, 22-25 vs. #14 Final Fantasy X
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (8-1) – W, 29-19 vs. Psychonauts
Final Fantasy VII (7-2) – W, 32-14 vs. Elite Beat Agents
Batman: Arkham Asylum (8-1) – W, 34-19 vs. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Star Fox 64 (7-2) – W, 31-13 vs. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (8-1) – L, 16-29 vs. #10 Super Mario World
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (6-3) – L, 22-31 vs. #19 Super Mario Galaxy
Bioshock (7-2) – L, 20-28 vs. #13 Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (6-3) – L, 22-23 vs. #11 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (7-2) – W, 23-22 vs. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Tales of Symphonia (7-2) – W, 30-15 vs. Mortal Kombat II
Assassin's Creed II (7-2) – L, 20-21 vs. Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes

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Janus5000
07/14/11 5:47:00 PM
#2:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Link to the Past
3. Super Mario Bros. 3
4. Resident Evil 4
5. Pokemon R/B/Y
6. Super Mario 64
7. Super Mario World
8. Metal Gear Solid 3
9. Ocarina of Time
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee
11. Metal Gear Solid
12. Final Fantasy X
13. Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations
14. Super Mario Galaxy 2
15. Paper Mario
16. Super Mario Galaxy
17. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
18. Super Metroid
19. Metroid Prime
20. Portal
21. Final Fantasy VI
22. Batman: Arkham Asylum
23. Super Mario World 2
24. Metal Gear Solid 2
25. Star Fox 64

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TheKnightOfNee
07/14/11 6:01:00 PM
#3:


Not much changing this week.

1. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Super Mario Bros 3
4. Metal Gear Solid 3
5. Super Mario 64
6. Resident Evil 4
7. Super Mario World
8. The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
9. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
10. Super Smash Bros Melee
11. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
12. Final Fantasy
13. Paper Mario
14. Super Metroid
15. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
16. Final Fantasy IX
17. Super Smash Bros Brawl
18. Metal Gear Solid
19. Final Fantasy VII
20. Metroid Prime
21. Mega Man 2
22. Super Mario Galaxy 2
23. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
24. Portal
25. Batman: Arkham Asylum

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vcharon
07/14/11 6:08:00 PM
#4:


1. Chrono Trigger (9-0)
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (9-0)
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (9-0)
4. Resident Evil 4 (9-0)
5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (9-0)
6. Super Mario Bros. 3 (8-1)
7. Super Mario 64 (8-1)
8. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (8-1)
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee (7-2)
10. Final Fantasy X (8-1)
11. Super Mario World (8-1)
12. Metal Gear Solid (8-1)
13. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (9-0)
14. Paper Mario (9-0)
15. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (8-1)
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (7-2)
17. Metroid Prime (8-1)
18. Super Metroid (8-1)
19. Super Mario Galaxy (9-0)
20. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (8-1)
21. Final Fantasy VI (7-2)
22. Portal (8-1)
23. Final Fantasy IX (8-1)
24. Batman: Arkham Asylum (8-1)
25. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (8-1)

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KCF0107
07/14/11 6:11:00 PM
#5:


NCAA Games II week by week schedules (including past results):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdEtadTB0dEhmX3JxZkZfdzdhTHF6WGc&hl=en#gid=0

NCAA Games II Conference Breakdowns (including a quicker, faster look at individual games' opponents, wins, and losses):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdDhfenhraVlvNlk3VkUzb0tFalMtYUE&hl=en#gid=0

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KCF0107
07/14/11 6:11:00 PM
#6:


Am I the only one who uses those to compile their ballot?

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paulg235
07/14/11 6:12:00 PM
#7:


1. Chrono Trigger (9-0) – W, 36-8 vs. World of Goo
2. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (9-0) – W, 46-9 vs. Gears of War
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (9-0) – W, 34-8 vs. Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood
4. Super Mario World (8-1) – W, 29-16 vs. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (9-0) – W, 32-9 vs. Star Ocean: The Second Story
6. Super Mario Bros. 3 (8-1) – W, 31-22 vs. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (8-1) – W, 37-9 vs. Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
8. Resident Evil 4 (9-0) – W, 35-16 vs. The World Ends With You
9. Super Mario 64 (8-1) – W, 41-13 vs. Gunstar Heroes
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee (7-2) – W, 31-10 vs. Brave Fencer Musashi
11. Metal Gear Solid (8-1) – W, 28-20 vs. Bioshock
12. Final Fantasy X (8-1) – W, 25-22 vs. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
13. Final Fantasy IX (8-1) – W, 30-14 vs. Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
14. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (8-1) – W, 30-15 vs. Mega Man 9
15. Portal (8-1) – W, 42-11 vs. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
16. Mega Man 2 (9-0) – W, 23-18 vs. Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening
17. Metroid Prime (8-1) – W, 36-16 vs. WWF No Mercy
18. Final Fantasy VI (7-2) – W, 30-15 vs. F-Zero GX
19. Paper Mario (9-0) – W, 30-19 vs. Xenogears
20. Batman: Arkham Asylum (8-1) – W, 34-19 vs. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
21. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (9-0) – W, 23-22 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
22. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (7-2) – W, 31-17 vs. Tales of Vesperia
23. Super Mario Galaxy (9-0) – W, 31-22 vs. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
24. Super Metroid (8-1) – W, 28-22 vs. Starcraft
25. Star Fox 64 (7-2) – W, 31-13 vs. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

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Janus5000
07/14/11 6:13:00 PM
#8:


I used it!

Though only to check how stupid ranking MGS2 would be.

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 6:13:00 PM
#9:


I don't think anyone else uses it just to make sure they have everything arranged by overall record.

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red sox 777
07/14/11 6:14:00 PM
#10:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Super Mario Bros. 3
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
5. Super Smash Bros. Melee
6. Resident Evil 4
7. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
8. Super Mario 64
9. Super Mario World
10. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
13. Paper Mario
14. Final Fantasy X
15. Metal Gear Solid
16. Metroid Prime
17. Super Mario Galaxy 2
18. Super Mario Galaxy
19. Super Metroid
20. Final Fantasy VI
21. Portal
22. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
23. Final Fantasy IX
24. Final Fantasy VII
25. Star Fox 64

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PrinceKaro
07/14/11 6:16:00 PM
#11:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Super Mario Bros. 3
5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
6. Super Mario 64
7. Super Mario World
8. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
9. Resident Evil 4
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee
11. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
12. Super Mario Galaxy 2
13. Final Fantasy IX
14. Final Fantasy X
15. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
16. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
17. Super Metroid
18. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
19. Final Fantasy VII
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
21. Paper Mario
22. Super Mario Galaxy
23. Metal Gear Solid
24. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
25. Star Fox 64

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PrinceKaro
07/14/11 6:18:00 PM
#12:


Btw, the first post incorrectly lists Super Mario Galaxy as being undefeated when it is supposed to have one loss.

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 6:19:00 PM
#13:


Bleh, fixed.

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swirIdude
07/14/11 6:53:00 PM
#14:


RPI Vote

1. Chrono Trigger
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
4. Super Mario Bros. 3
5. Super Mario Galaxy 2
6. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
7. Resident Evil 4
8. Super Mario Galaxy
9. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
10. Super Mario 64
11. Metal Gear Solid
12. Final Fantasy X
13. Super Metroid
14. Paper Mario
15. Final Fantasy IX
16. Mega Man 2
17. Final Fantasy VI
18. Portal
19. Super Mario World
20. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
21. Batman: Arkham Asylum
22. Metroid Prime
23. Super Smash Bros. Melee
24. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
25. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest

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TsunamiXXVIII
07/14/11 7:01:00 PM
#15:


Batman's really close...but I can't put it ahead of Mario Kart 64 due to head-to-head, and I can't move Mario Kart 64 into the top 25 on the back of its big win (even though SCII would've easily gotten my vote if it had won that one) because SCII's first loss was to S3&K, the game that Majora's Mask just beat. But I expect both MK64 and Arkham Asylum will be on my ballot next week.

(But with Chrono Trigger beating up on yet another cupcake while SMB3 picks up a quality win over Symphony of the Night, I have to leave CT in the #3 spot. It's kind of like if UNC picked up a loss in one of those early-season tournaments to, I don't know, Butler or something, but then they're still there with just the 1 loss halfway through the season. They're probably still going to be ranked ahead of Butler even if the Bulldogs are undefeated, because they're f***ing North Carolina and they're playing all of the best teams.)

1. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow (1)
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (2)
3. Chrono Trigger (3)
4. Super Smash Bros. Melee (4)
5. Super Mario World (8)
6. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (5)
7. Super Mario 64 (6)
8. Final Fantasy X (12)
9. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (9)
10. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (7)
11. Resident Evil 4 (11)
12. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (10)
13. Paper Mario (13)
14. Final Fantasy IX (14)
15. Star Fox 64 (16)
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (22)
17. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (17)
18. Metal Gear Solid (19)
19. Final Fantasy VI (20)
20. Portal (21)
21. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (15)
22. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (18)
23. Super Mario Galaxy (NR)
24. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (NR)
25. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (NR)

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 7:04:00 PM
#16:


Comparing CT to Butler and Mario 3 to UNC is a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible analogy and you know it.

If you're going to use that comparison, CT is Duke, and if Duke beats UNC, there's no way Duke gets de-throned from #1 until it loses.

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swirIdude
07/14/11 7:05:00 PM
#17:


t's kind of like if UNC picked up a loss in one of those early-season tournaments to, I don't know, Butler or something, but then they're still there with just the 1 loss halfway through the season. They're probably still going to be ranked ahead of Butler even if the Bulldogs are undefeated, because they're f***ing North Carolina and they're playing all of the best teams.

Except, in this example, CT is an undefeated Duke to SMB3's one loss North Carolina, that one loss acquired when Duke beat North Carolina head-to-head. Thus, your logic is flawed. Now if the #1 game was something out of left field without a huge pedigree, like Portal, then it would work as a Butler swap.

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Janus5000
07/14/11 7:16:00 PM
#18:


Quality win?

SMB3 failed to break 60% on SOTN. That's just as bad as losing.

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Evillordexdeath
07/14/11 7:26:00 PM
#19:


1. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
5. Resident Evil 4
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
8. Super Sash Bros. Melee
9. Super Mario 64
10. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations
11. Super Mario World
12. Metal Gear Solid
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2
14. Final Fantasy X
15. Paper Mario
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
17. Super Metroid
18. Super Mario Galaxy
19. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
20. Metroid Prime
21. Portal
22. Final Fantasy VI
23. Final Fantasy IX
24. Mega Man 2
25. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

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TsunamiXXVIII
07/14/11 7:36:00 PM
#20:


KnightOfNee--your 12th place pick is currently identified only as "Final Fantasy", which is not one of the games in this competition.

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Orochimaru_Fan
07/14/11 7:38:00 PM
#21:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
4. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
5. Resident Evil 4
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
8. Super Mario 64
9. Super Mario World
10. Super Smash Bros. Melee
11. Paper Mario
12. Metal Gear Solid
13. Super Mario Galaxy
14. Batman: Arkham Asylum
15. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
16. Portal
17. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
18. Metroid Prime
19. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
20. Super Metroid
21. Final Fantasy VI
22. Star Fox 64
23. Tales of Symphonia
24. Super Mario Galaxy 2
25. Final Fantasy X
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th3l3fty
07/14/11 7:39:00 PM
#22:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Super Mario World
7. Resident Evil 4
8. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
9. Paper Mario
10. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
11. Metal Gear Solid
12. Metroid Prime
13. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14. Super Mario Galaxy
15. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
16. Mega Man 2
17. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
18. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
19. Final Fantasy X
20. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
21. Portal
22. Final Fantasy VII
23. Final Fantasy VI
24. Batman: Arkham Asylum
25. Super Mario Galaxy 2

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TsunamiXXVIII
07/14/11 7:39:00 PM
#23:


LeonhartFour posted...
Comparing CT to Butler and Mario 3 to UNC is a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible analogy and you know it.

If you're going to use that comparison, CT is Duke, and if Duke beats UNC, there's no way Duke gets de-throned from #1 until it loses.


I used Butler because I didn't really know what else to do. To be honest, CT is more like Boise State--everyone knows that they're probably good enough to win the national championship, but their conference won't allow them to do so. But that no longer works as a comparison because Boise State started last season somewhere around the top 5 and at no point were they ranked below a one-loss team.

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 7:39:00 PM
#24:


I would assume the unlabeled FF in Nee's list is FFX since he already has IX and VII on there.

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Orochimaru_Fan
07/14/11 7:41:00 PM
#25:


I knew I made an error. I can't edit right now, so I'll just say right now that 19 should be DKC2, not MGS2.
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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 7:42:00 PM
#26:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #023
To be honest, CT is more like Boise State


No, it's not.

Chrono Trigger is, was, and always will be an extremely popular powerhouse game on this board, and it's silly to try to argue otherwise.

Oh, and if Boise State beat competition the quality of CT's competition in college football and went undefeated this past season, I guarantee you they would've finished in the top 2 and gone to the national championship game last year.

I don't know why you insist on saying "Oh look Mario 3 got a quality win over SOTN let's rank it ahead of CT still even though CT already beat Mario 3, oh, and it already beat SOTN just as badly, too."

I'm not sure why you're giving Mario 3 credit over CT for something CT has already done.

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 7:47:00 PM
#27:


From: TsunamiXXVIII | #027
Also, Orochimaru_Fan has MGS2 on his ballot twice.


From: Orochimaru_Fan | #026
I knew I made an error. I can't edit right now, so I'll just say right now that 19 should be DKC2, not MGS2.



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TsunamiXXVIII
07/14/11 7:47:00 PM
#28:


LeonhartFour posted...
I would assume the unlabeled FF in Nee's list is FFX since he already has IX and VII on there.

I would, too, but it could also be VI.

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TheKnightOfNee
07/14/11 7:54:00 PM
#29:


#12 should be FFX.

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TsunamiXXVIII
07/14/11 7:58:00 PM
#30:


LeonhartFour posted...
From: TsunamiXXVIII | #027
Also, Orochimaru_Fan has MGS2 on his ballot twice.
From: Orochimaru_Fan | #026
I knew I made an error. I can't edit right now, so I'll just say right now that 19 should be DKC2, not MGS2.


Yeah. Hadn't seen that yet when I posted; I edited it out.

Anyway, I think there's a lesson to be learned from the past two weeks: I should just shut up and vote, because I rank a one-loss game one spot above the undefeated game that beat it and get a ton of crap for it due to my need to explain myself, allowing other people to put a two-loss game eight spots higher than the undefeated game that dealt it its second loss without anyone else commenting on it.

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KCF0107
07/14/11 8:52:00 PM
#31:


LeonhartFour posted...
I don't think anyone else uses it just to make sure they have everything arranged by overall record.

I think that you may have misinterpreted how I vote when I explained it some time ago

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LinkMarioSamus
07/14/11 9:18:00 PM
#32:


1) Chrono Trigger
2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3) Resident Evil 4
4) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
5) Final Fantasy VI
6) Super Mario Galaxy 2
7) Super Smash Bros. Melee
8) Metal Gear Solid
9) Super Mario World
10) Super Mario Galaxy
11) Super Mario 64
12) Super Mario Bros. 3
13) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
14) Metroid Prime
15) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
16) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
17) Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
18) Star Fox 64
19) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
20) Portal
21) Okami
22) Tales of Symphonia
23) Half-Life 2
24) Super Metroid
25) Final Fantasy X

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swirIdude
07/14/11 9:41:00 PM
#33:


KCF0107 posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
I don't think anyone else uses it just to make sure they have everything arranged by overall record.

I think that you may have misinterpreted how I vote when I explained it some time ago


So, wait, you DON'T arrange your ballot by overall record?

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KCF0107
07/14/11 9:44:00 PM
#34:


Other than undefeated games being at the top, no. I look for the 25 most deserving games

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swirIdude
07/14/11 9:46:00 PM
#35:


KCF0107 posted...
Other than undefeated games being at the top, no. I look for the 25 most deserving games

Well, now that FE:PoR has lost, maybe that will be true from now on!

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VeryInsane
07/14/11 9:55:00 PM
#36:


Ok let's do this.

By the way, IMO votes should be weighted, the system is errored IMO by the fact that a game that has one vote in the top 10 can get in over a bunch of votes for a game that is at the number 25 spot.

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
3. Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
4. Resident Evil 4
5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee
9. Super Mario 64
10. Super Mario World
11. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations
12. Paper Mario
13. Final Fantasy X
14. Metal Gear Solid
15. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
16. Metroid Prime
17. Super Metroid
18. Final Fantasy VII
19. Super Mario Galaxy 2
20. Portal
21. Mega Man 2
22. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
23. Final Fantasy IX
24. Super Mario Galaxy
25. Batman: Arkham Asylum

Honorable Mention: DKC2

Stuff just gets tougher!

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07/14/11 9:56:00 PM
#37:


Anyway, I think there's a lesson to be learned from the past two weeks: I should just shut up and vote, because I rank a one-loss game one spot above the undefeated game that beat it and get a ton of crap for it due to my need to explain myself, allowing other people to put a two-loss game eight spots higher than the undefeated game that dealt it its second loss without anyone else commenting on it.

R/B/Y hasn't looked that great for a few weeks (eh wins over TWEWY and B/W, nearly losing to SF64) - ranking it below Melee, which had a huge win a couple weeks ago, isn't a huge stretch.

...Not that I agree with putting it as low as 10 (or 17), but still.

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07/14/11 10:42:00 PM
#38:


1. Chrono Trigger
2. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Pokemon R/B/Y
4. Resident Evil 4
5. Metal Gear Solid 3
6. Paper Mario
7. Mega Man 2
8. Phoenix Wright: Trials & Tribulations
9. Super Mario World
10. Super Mario Bros. 3
11. Final Fantasy X
12. Metal Gear Solid
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2
14. Super Mario Galaxy
15. Batman: Arkham Asylum
16. Metroid Prime
17. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
18. Star Fox 64
19. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
20. Half-Life 2
21. Super Metroid
22. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
23. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
24. Final Fantasy IX
25. Grim Fandango
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WarThaNemesis2
07/14/11 10:44:00 PM
#39:


Missed a week, lol. Let's see what upset I inevitably forgot to factor in.

1. Chrono Trigger (2)
2. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (4)
3. Super Mario Bros. 3 (7)
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (2)
5. Super Mario World (6)
6. Metal Gear Solid 3 (8)
7. Resident Evil 4 (9)
8. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (5)
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee (12)
10. Super Mario 64 (1)
11. Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations (13)
12. Paper Mario (14)
13. Final Fantasy X (15)
14. Metal Gear Solid (16)
15. Metroid Prime (17)
16. Final Fantasy VI (18)
17. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (19)
18. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (24)
19. Super Mario Galaxy (21)
20. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (25)
21. Metal Gear Solid 2 (NR)
22. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (NR)
23. Final Fantasy VII (22)
24. Final Fantasy IX (23)
25. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (NR)

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Janus5000
07/14/11 10:45:00 PM
#40:


Grim Fandango really

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KCF0107
07/14/11 10:48:00 PM
#41:


Is it really that atrocious to you?

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Janus5000
07/14/11 10:53:00 PM
#42:


Atrocious wouldn't be the word I'd use, but... how do you figure it's had a better season than every game with its record aside from Half-Life 2? >_>

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WarThaNemesis2
07/14/11 10:54:00 PM
#43:


It's ok, KCF, you're not the only one who stands alone for justice!

What is the Top 25? A miserable pile of Nintendo!

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KCF0107
07/14/11 10:56:00 PM
#44:


Star Fox 64 has the same record as it I believe and I put that higher than it

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KCF0107
07/14/11 10:57:00 PM
#45:


If you really want to know, MGS2 or Portal were probably my next two choices

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 10:59:00 PM
#46:


From: KCF0107 | #034
Other than undefeated games being at the top, no. I look for the 25 most deserving games


From: KCF0107 | #038
25. Grim Fandango


I mean, are you doing this on purpose? This, and Assassin's Creed II at #25 last week. Do you just treat the 25th place vote as a throwaway, a joke, or something?

27-14 vs. Cave Story
22-19 vs. Valkyria Chronicles
15-32 vs. Tales of Symphonia
23-16 vs. Ghost Trick
18-15 vs. Jet Force Gemini
17-32 vs. Super Mario Galaxy 2
30-12 vs. Gears of War
22-8 vs. flower
24-19 vs. Secret of Mana

You claim to actually pay attention to these things before you vote, and then you vote Grim Fandango 25th. Which one of those performances is top 25 worthy? Not a single one, unless you count bullying two of the weakest games in the contest (and you shouldn't). Grim Fandango has faced two games worth anything this contest, and surprise surprise, it got slaughtered both times. I mean, unless there are only 25 total games with 2 losses or fewer, I can't see any reason for you to put it here whatsoever.

From: TsunamiXXVIII | #030
I should just shut up and vote, because I rank a one-loss game one spot above the undefeated game that beat it and get a ton of crap for it due to my need to explain myself, allowing other people to put a two-loss game eight spots higher than the undefeated game that dealt it its second loss without anyone else commenting on it.


I'm just saying your reasoning is weak. I appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself, but I still see zero reason to vote Mario 3 over CT. If CT was struggling against games it should be beating handily, fine. But it's not.

And I'd comment on some of the other dumb rankings, but I doubt most people check back in here after voting.

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WarThaNemesis2
07/14/11 11:00:00 PM
#47:


Ooh! Ooh! Comment on my dumb rankings!

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 11:01:00 PM
#48:


From: KCF0107 | #045
If you really want to know, MGS2 or Portal were probably my next two choices


Really.

You think Grim Fandango is more top 25 worthy than either of those two games.

You really need to rethink your criteria for voting if that's what you think. There should be no standard for voting in which you go, "You know, I think Grim Fandango should be on the top 25 ahead of Portal. Yeah, let's rank the game that got killed by Symphonia ahead of the game that beat it and whose only loss is to MGS1."

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07/14/11 11:02:00 PM
#49:


Ooh! Ooh! Comment on my dumb rankings!

No Super Metroid? What a loser.

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LeonhartFour
07/14/11 11:03:00 PM
#50:


From: WarThaNemesis2 | #047
Ooh! Ooh! Comment on my dumb rankings!


Actually, your list is fairly solid aside from ranking SOTN on the top 25 for no reason other than "It doesn't beat anything good but it doesn't get killed by it either."

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