Current Events > One question about GotG 2. Did they overuse Baby Groot and ruin the movie?

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I haven't seen it yet but when I saw the trailers I almost gagged of disgust when I saw Baby Groot getting the idea that they'll overuse him for cute shit that makes women and kids go crazy.

Was I correct?
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Yeah
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Vin diesel says "i am groot" a total of 13 times in the movie.

take that as you will
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the intro scene is focused on him (you can choose to follow the stuff happening in the background though), but after that he really only has a couple "major scene"

Drax should be the one you should be concerned about, I felt they overused him and his gags
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No they don't.
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No, only the intro scene was ruined because of him
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There was only one scene involving Baby Groot that went on too long, imo. He was fine the rest of the movie. And so damn adorable wtf.

You'll probably think three of his scenes go on for too long
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prince_leo posted...

the intro scene is focused on him (you can choose to follow the stuff happening in the background though), but after that he really only has a couple "major scene"

Drax should be the one you should be concerned about, I felt they overused him and his gags

Yeah, Drax seemed like he was only there for a few cheap comedic gags.

They may have overused him a bit, but it by no means ruins the movie.
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I am usually the first to complain when a character gets overused (especially "cute" or "stupid" characters in movies), but I will say Groot was used modestly for the most part. I'd say he had the least screen time of all the Guardians (though I felt Gamora also had relatively little screentime compared to the others).

But I agree with what the other person said about Drax. He was pretty much used almost exclusively as a gag machine (except for one really powerful scene that pulled the heart strings). I enjoyed his portrayal, though.
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No. He is only really focused on in the beginning and then again in the middle.
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No. He is barely in the movie much honestly. He is comic relief for a few parts of thes tory. He only says I am groot like 15x
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No. He's the focus of the intro, which is a gag, and has an actual important part in the final battle.

Other than that he's just adorable and doesn't do much.
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To add to my earlier post, TC, keep in mind that recent marketing initiatives purposely overrepresent "funny", "cute", and "stupid" characters to attract kids to see the movie, when the movie itself doesn't feature them as much as you'd think. Think the "Afro Circus" gag with Madagascar 3. With how much they pushed that stupid song, you'd think it was half the movie. That whole gag was a total of 2 scenes that lasted less than 30 seconds total.

Or the movie Sing, with that annoying Pig stealing every scene in the commercials, when in reality he had the least amount of screentime of any character in the movie. Other examples where the trailers misled certain characters/gags in a movie include Spider Pig in the Simpsons movie, Minions in Despicable Me, that chicken in Moana, and famously, Olaf in Frozen.

And for a non-kids movie example, Fat Amy in Pitch Perfect. I had originally thought Rebel Wilson was the lead in the movie based on how every preview was about her. Her actual screentime was minimal in the movie compared to the other characters (that changed in Pitch Perfect 2 but you get my point).
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Zanzenburger posted...

To add to my earlier post, TC, keep in mind that recent marketing initiatives purposely overrepresent "funny", "cute", and "stupid" characters to attract kids to see the movie, when the movie itself doesn't feature them as much as you'd think. Think the "Afro Circus" gag with Madagascar 3. With how much they pushed that stupid song, you'd think it was half the movie. That whole gag was a total of 2 scenes that lasted less than 30 seconds total.

Yeah, but in this case baby groot has 3 huge extended scenes and 2 smaller ones that still take up significant focus.

I don't actually think the scenes were bad (although the opening scene I thought went on for a long time it was essentially just an opening credits reel and not a true scene), but someone intentionally trying to avoid that stuff, he was in a very significant part of the movie.

As he should be since he's one of the main characters. It's not really comparable to the madagascar thing at all. He has more presence in this movie than Joker has in Suicide Squad.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Yeah, but in this case baby groot has 3 huge extended scenes and 2 smaller ones that still take up significant focus.

I don't actually think the scenes were bad (although the opening scene I thought went on for a long time it was essentially just an opening credits reel and not a true scene), but someone intentionally trying to avoid that stuff, he was in a very significant part of the movie.

As he should be since he's one of the main characters. It's not really comparable to the madagascar thing at all. He has more presence in this movie than Joker has in Suicide Squad.

You're right, but as you said, he's a main character. There was only so much they could do with him plot-wise because of his limitations, so it's reasonable I think what they did with him.

btw what 3 major scenes are you referring to? I can only immediately think of opening credits and the jail scene with the severed thumb. What else was there? Unless you're counting that one scene with the detonator as a major scene, though I'd say that one was evenly shared across all the characters.
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Zanzenburger posted...

btw what 3 major scenes are you referring to? I can only immediately think of

Those are the three I was personally thinking of. With #2 going on a bit too long.
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Mernardi posted...

No they don't.

Zanzenburger posted...

Unless you're counting that one scene

I am, and while other characters were prominently featured in it, Groot unquestionably had the most important role in that scene.
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Personally I thought the over did it with adorable baby Groot, but it didn't ruin the movie by any means.
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No, he's in it and he has a lot of small, adorable scenes, but only two and a half are really major for him. The opening credits reel, a part midway through the film, and an important part of a colaberative effort near the end.

Drax does get used for a lot of comedic relief.

This movie had a lot of comedic moments. And I loved the whole movie throughout. There's only one bit that I thought went on a little long.
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3-4 scenes across a two hour movie isn't much at all. I thought he was used just enough. He'll never be in another movie as well too.
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