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voldothegr8
09/01/17 1:18:50 PM
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Should we pay criminals for following the law?



http://fox40.com/2017/08/29/sacramento-city-council-approves-advance-peace-program/

Sacramento City Council Approves ‘Advance Peace’ Program

After a violent weekend of suspected gang-related shootings, Tuesday the Sacramento City Council took action to reduce the bloodshed.

It approved a controversial program called Advance Peace, which offers cash stipends to gang members who remain peaceful.


Where's my stipend for being a law abiding citizen?
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Horus_Leftfield
09/01/17 1:21:00 PM
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They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money

Naturally people like you are gonna get fucking triggered over it though
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MagusKingOfZeal
09/01/17 1:21:55 PM
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Nanny state being awful, news at 11
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OpheliaAdenade
09/01/17 1:21:55 PM
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couldn't we just kill all the gang members? :u
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eggcorn
09/01/17 1:24:27 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money

Naturally people like you are gonna get fucking triggered over it though

haha
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Balrog0
09/01/17 1:25:34 PM
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pretty smart if it works
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boxington
09/01/17 1:25:46 PM
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
couldn't we just kill all the gang members? :u

uh, no.

not all gang members break the law, or are violent criminals.
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Questionmarktarius
09/01/17 1:26:25 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money

That's the entire working theory of a welfare state, really: placate the proletariat with bread and circuses, so they don't riot quite so much.
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A_Good_Boy
09/01/17 1:26:47 PM
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If the program has been proven to be effective then nothing wrong with using it elsewhere.
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CartmanMustDie
09/03/17 11:12:30 PM
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This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.
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DonaldClinton
09/03/17 11:13:07 PM
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CartmanMustDie posted...
This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.
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GiftedACIII
09/03/17 11:19:40 PM
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DonaldClinton posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.

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AlternativeFAQS
09/03/17 11:21:01 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
DonaldClinton posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.


so come do it. what's stopping you?

oh wait, you're full of shit
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Bok_Choi
09/03/17 11:22:16 PM
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ITT: people acting like they giving away mansions and lambos to thugs on the street corner
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CartmanMustDie
09/03/17 11:34:54 PM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
DonaldClinton posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.


so come do it. what's stopping you?

oh wait, you're full of shit

My current job would pay way more than that and I live on the other side of the world for starters. Plus it's California. Rest assured though, if this is still intact decades later and I have nothing to lose I might go to california, increase the state's mortality rate and get paid for it.
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A_Good_Boy
09/03/17 11:37:16 PM
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CartmanMustDie posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
DonaldClinton posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.


so come do it. what's stopping you?

oh wait, you're full of shit

My current job would pay way more than that and I live on the other side of the world for starters. Plus it's California. Rest assured though, if this is still intact decades later and I have nothing to lose I might go to california, increase the state's mortality rate and get paid for it.

One of the stipulations is you don't commit crime.
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Cornmuffins
09/03/17 11:37:17 PM
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Making cali great again
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GymTanSoccer
09/03/17 11:37:45 PM
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what are the qualifications?
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CartmanMustDie
09/03/17 11:38:21 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
DonaldClinton posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
This is genius. I should move to California and become a gang member.


so come do it. what's stopping you?

oh wait, you're full of shit

My current job would pay way more than that and I live on the other side of the world for starters. Plus it's California. Rest assured though, if this is still intact decades later and I have nothing to lose I might go to california, increase the state's mortality rate and get paid for it.

One of the stipulations is you don't commit crime.

Yeah, I meant on my breaks. Being a gang member is pretty profitable by itself.
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Jesus_Toast
09/03/17 11:47:27 PM
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Wow paying people not to break the law lol.
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NeoShadowhen
09/03/17 11:53:26 PM
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How do they know these gang members didn't break the law? Are we just paying them for not getting caught? How does this work?
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Vicious_Dios
09/03/17 11:55:33 PM
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So, just to be clear.

We're rewarding the 'problem-people' of society for doing what should have already been the common sense thing to do, like not breaking the law?

Fuck outta here.
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AlternativeFAQS
09/03/17 11:58:29 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
So, just to be clear.

We're rewarding the 'problem-people' of society for doing what should have already been the common sense thing to do, like not breaking the law?

Fuck outta here.


it costs the state less than dealing with them after they break the law.
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CircleOfManias
09/03/17 11:59:29 PM
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So let's see, it works, it costs less than the alternative, and the only argument against it is that it doesn't satisfy the right's bloodlust?
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FreedomEtrtment
09/06/17 12:20:14 AM
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AlternativeFAQS posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
So, just to be clear.

We're rewarding the 'problem-people' of society for doing what should have already been the common sense thing to do, like not breaking the law?

Fuck outta here.


it costs the state less than dealing with them after they break the law.

So does illegal porn
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darkjedilink
09/06/17 2:50:17 AM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money

Naturally people like you are gonna get fucking triggered over it though

I'm assuming you have some actual data to suggest this single program caused a reduction in crime AND actually saves money.

And then I'm sure you'll explain why gangbangers deserve my money more than I do just for not breaking the law.
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creativeme
09/06/17 3:22:02 AM
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so what's stopping me from saying i'm in a gang? i can be a one man gang for the extra money.
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WesternMedia
09/07/17 8:13:22 PM
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creativeme posted...
so what's stopping me from saying i'm in a gang? i can be a one man gang for the extra money.

Nothing, in theory. This decision wasn't very well thought out
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UncleBourbon33
09/07/17 8:15:18 PM
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Of course libs would defend this.
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The Admiral
09/07/17 8:15:26 PM
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No wonder California is a liberal utopia. Rewarding the dregs of society just for being violent fuck ups.
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BB mofo
09/07/17 8:29:32 PM
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Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money


Hollywood Park Casino did this in Inglewood. They paid off the gangs in the area to not start any shit which might scare off their white and Asian patrons. If any gangs from out of the area showed up, or a member starts shit, the local gangs chased them off, turned them into the cops, or just straight up murdered them and dumped the body outside the city.
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J E S U S
09/08/17 9:49:36 AM
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BB mofo posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money


Hollywood Park Casino did this in Inglewood. They paid off the gangs in the area to not start any shit which might scare off their white and Asian patrons. If any gangs from out of the area showed up, or a member starts shit, the local gangs chased them off, turned them into the cops, or just straight up murdered them and dumped the body outside the city.

so you're saying its a government sponsored protection racket
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Xelltrix
09/08/17 9:57:11 AM
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This sounds basically like mobsters and protection money...


Edit: So I went and looked up what was going on because literally handing over money to gangs sounded absolutely insane and not at all something people would literally do.



They're handing out stipends to children suspects of gang violence after going through reform programs and getting them into jobs and stuff. That's radically different from what it sounded like from the title. I still think the stipends is pretty dumb, but I agree with everything else.
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The Admiral
09/08/17 2:19:28 PM
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BB mofo posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money


Hollywood Park Casino did this in Inglewood. They paid off the gangs in the area to not start any shit which might scare off their white and Asian patrons. If any gangs from out of the area showed up, or a member starts shit, the local gangs chased them off, turned them into the cops, or just straight up murdered them and dumped the body outside the city.


Same thing the government does with the cartels in Mexico. So glad CA is modeling its government off the world's finest examples.
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ThePrinceFish
09/08/17 2:21:44 PM
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BB mofo posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
They been doing this for years and it actually does work, reduce crime and save the city money


Hollywood Park Casino did this in Inglewood. They paid off the gangs in the area to not start any shit which might scare off their white and Asian patrons. If any gangs from out of the area showed up, or a member starts shit, the local gangs chased them off, turned them into the cops, or just straight up murdered them and dumped the body outside the city.

Nothing like paying protection money to organized crime to prevent trouble.
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Forlorn_Ass
09/08/17 2:24:42 PM
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How much of an SJW do you have to be to vote yes.
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Medz1206
09/08/17 2:25:44 PM
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Offer the money as bait. If they have a warrant lock them up
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Thrillwell
09/08/17 2:31:48 PM
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next, police offer hookers rides to their tricks for safe passage
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That_Happened
09/08/17 2:34:19 PM
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Xelltrix posted...
This sounds basically like mobsters and protection money...


Edit: So I went and looked up what was going on because literally handing over money to gangs sounded absolutely insane and not at all something people would literally do.



They're handing out stipends to children suspects of gang violence after going through reform programs and getting them into jobs and stuff. That's radically different from what it sounded like from the title. I still think the stipends is pretty dumb, but I agree with everything else.


If a conservative posts something, just assume it's a lie. 99% of the time, you'll be right.
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