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It's basically a person who doesn't believe in afterlife which is fine. I kinda am one in this case. And it's not like they frown upon others who do believe in one. I respect others opinions on the subject matter.

So I don't see the point on being negative on atheists.
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Nothing.

I think the "I am euphoric" r/atheism stereotype is why people are negative on the internet if you need a reason.
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There's nothing wrong with it. People just tend to make sweeping generalizations about one another, and the stereotypes for athiests are usually that they're obnoxious, mouth breathers who shit on religion. Though, there are people like this (hence where the stereotypes come from), but they're likely just a vocal minority.
This applies to pretty much every belief.
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DreadedWave posted...

Nothing.

I think the "I am euphoric" r/atheism stereotype is why people are negative on the internet if you need a reason.

That's probably it.
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Kitt posted...

There's nothing wrong with it. People just tend to make sweeping generalizations about one another, and the stereotypes for athiests are usually that they're obnoxious, mouth breathers who shit on religion. Though, there are people like this (hence where the stereotypes come from), but they're likely just a vocal minority.
This applies to pretty much every belief.

I mean when I first heard the word I thought it meant that you actively tried to prove others wrong but fortunately that isn't true.

It's so hard not to offend people on the internet these days.
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Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.
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I feel sorry for them. They basically believe in nothing. How do they feel when their parents die? The only why I've dealt with it is believing that they're in heaven and that I'll see them again someday. If I didn't believe that, there would be no reason for me to go on.
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utarefson posted...

Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.

I kinda have a similar way of looking at it actually.
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Superlinkbro posted...

It's basically a person who doesn't believe in afterlife which is fine. I kinda am one in this case. And it's not like they frown upon others who do believe in one. I respect others opinions on the subject matter.

So I don't see the point on being negative on atheists.

You must be new to the Internet. Welcome welcome.

First off you have the technical definition of Atheist wrong. Being Atheist simply means you don't believe in a God. Which means you can be an Atheist and believe in the afterlife at the same time. Atheist doesn't mean you don't believe in religions, spirits, ghosts, an otherly world, etc etc.

Second off being Atheist on the Internet has become something in the negative term because of how they portray themselves. Many are militant about their beliefs.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Ranmaru-9 posted...

I feel sorry for them. They basically believe in nothing. How do they feel when their parents die? The only why I've dealt with it is believing that they're in heaven and that I'll see them again someday. If I didn't believe that, there would be no reason for me to go on.

I'm not an atheist, but I expect an atheist will feel similar to just about anyone else when their parents die. A loss of people that are not coming back.

Also, I don't think it's healthy to hinge your entire drive for living based on your parents being alive or not.

Yeah I feel bad when anyone dies I just don't believe they are in an "afterlife".

I might not technically be an atheist but more of what utarefson said.
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Ranmaru-9 posted...

I feel sorry for them. They basically believe in nothing. How do they feel when their parents die? The only why I've dealt with it is believing that they're in heaven and that I'll see them again someday. If I didn't believe that, there would be no reason for me to go on.

Whether or not you believe in the afterlife, should not change how you feel towards having a loved one dying. And I think it's rather silly to have any expectations that you will ever see them again. I get that seeing a loved one die is painful, but at some point you need to accept it and continue living your life.
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I am an atheist because it is stupid to believe in something that hasn't been proven. It is comical actually. Atheists have feelings just like any theists does. But me, I tend to have none. I am one of those odd atheists.

I'm still trying to figure out how does neckbeards and fedoras have anything to do with atheism, it's like people had to go out of their way to find something negative to associate atheism too.
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Atheists tend to be liberals anyways.

It's strange to me that people think atheists don't have the emotions, wants and needs as people who believe in god. Maybe that's why there's such a stigma against us- because people think we're missing some essential humanity to us
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utarefson posted...

Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.

What you just described is not what people typically mean when they say "afterlife". They are usually referring to you/your spirit/ whatever being conscious and existing in some...alternate place. THAT's what people normally are rejecting.

I don't think there are very many atheists that would disagree that their energy will still be there in some form or another.
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utarefson posted...

Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.

this, actually.

I don't need to feel like I hold a special place in the heart of a deity. we can do that for each other if we can ever stop the blind, misguided tribalism.
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Twin3Turbo posted...

utarefson posted...

Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.

What you just described is not what people typically mean when they say "afterlife". They are usually referring to you/your spirit/ whatever being conscious and existing in some...alternate place. THAT's what people normally are rejecting.

I don't think there are very many atheists that would disagree that their energy will still be there in some form or another.

Also yeah this

When people say "nothing" is after death, they mean there's no life after death (you don't exist in some sort of reality where you exist as some sort or conscious soul or reborn body and live happily ever after)
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there's nothing inherently wrong with being atheist. I'm not atheist, but I would call myself more of an agnostic theist.

the issue with a lot of atheists is that they were influenced by Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris and their ilk - they believe all religion is evil and use this as an excuse for islamohobia
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utarefson posted...

Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.

This is one of the more similar positions to mine that I have encountered. Sig is on point too :)
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There's no reason to have morals if you're atheist. Do what ever you can for pleasure in your short time on earth.
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Patty_Fleur posted...

There's no reason to have morals if you're atheist. Do what ever you can for pleasure in your short time on earth.

I don't really know any religious people. I also don't really know anyone who feels that way. *shrugs*
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averagejoel posted...

there's nothing inherently wrong with being atheist. I'm not atheist, but I would call myself more of an agnostic theist.

the issue with a lot of atheists is that they were influenced by Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris and their ilk - they believe all religion is evil and use this as an excuse for islamohobia

There's a difference between being an atheist and an anti-theist.
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Nothing.

It's just when they go out of their way to tell people they can't be Christian.

The 10 Commandments being in a public place isn't hurting anyone.

Or those huge ass crosses they want removed from hill or mountain sides.

Unless they are afraid that it could fall over and kill them.
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nah, an atheist is someone that doesn't believe in a higher power/divine kinda being(s).

even though it's rare, there are atheists that believe in an afterlife.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Atheist_Afterlife
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Nothing as long as you're not being forecul about it.
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You're cosmically wrong and depressive to be around.

I pity atheists. But I don't treat them any differently. :/
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Patty_Fleur posted...

There's no reason to have morals if you're atheist. Do what ever you can for pleasure in your short time on earth.

Literally no u

Christians just pray their crimes undone and daddy Jesus makes it so
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I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.
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Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting
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And it's not like they frown upon others who do believe in one.

That is not true usually
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Alkeez posted...

Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting

there was a time where people unanimously thought slavery was okay? where and what time period?
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Not having to get up early on Sundays is just the best.

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Alkeez posted...

Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting

there was a time where people unanimously thought slavery was okay? where and what time period?

Around the time the bible was written. Though to be fair, no one liked being a slave, but it was the social norm around that time to have slavery.
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You know that relative of yours who is always posting really conservative Christian stuff? That's just as annoying when it comes from an atheist.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

And it's not like they frown upon others who do believe in one.

That is not true usually

Most atheists i know dont really care about what others believe. Its more when people use parts of an ancient book in discussions or something that they will be frowned upon.
And maybe when for example Christians will say that you need Jesus in your life to be saved or whatever - i guess also then

But for saying youre a Christian or believing in a God, not really. I havent come across that, at least. Except for that vocal minority on the internet, that was previously mentioned

If youre saying youre a Muslim on the other hand... then i know plenty of people who will judge - both Christians and atheists, though
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Prestoff posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Alkeez posted...

Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting

there was a time where people unanimously thought slavery was okay? where and what time period?

Around the time the bible was written. Though to be fair, no one liked being a slave, but it was the social norm around that time to have slavery.

the social norm wasn't my question, though. I can't think of a time where everybody thought it was okay, lol.

was just a weird statement to make.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Alkeez posted...

Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting

there was a time where people unanimously thought slavery was okay? where and what time period?

You can say that about anything. Going back, slavery has been part of most cultures. I wasnt pointing fingers, neither did i say 100% of some society agreed. I didnt feel i needed to specify this, because it wasnt a part of the point

If enough people in a society want change, change will usually happen. Doesnt matter if its moral or not.
Freeing slavery or throwing the virgin in the volcano

Same the other way around - if enough people doesnt think slavery is immoral, it will probably stay because it works.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Prestoff posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

Alkeez posted...

Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting

there was a time where people unanimously thought slavery was okay? where and what time period?

Around the time the bible was written. Though to be fair, no one liked being a slave, but it was the social norm around that time to have slavery.

the social norm wasn't my question, though. I can't think of a time where everybody thought it was okay, lol.

was just a weird statement to make.

Isnt social norm where you start? Im guessing a hundred years in the future, people will look back on how we do things and have a different standard on how you measure morality. (assuming nothing big happens that knocks out backwards)
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Alkeez posted...

Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

My guess is that morals are linked to the social parts, since it seems to be cultural. For example: Having slaves werent linked to amorality, since it was accepted in that society. And im having difficulties finding examples of sacrifices that werent religious in nature

My guess would be that religion is linked to some survival instinct or something. Keep you hanging on when all other hope is lost, maybe? Or maybe it comes from some sort of pattern recognition. The tribes that didnt see the patterns of the skies died off - leaving mostly the ones who noticed it to try to explain it - leading to this cant be earthly, so it must mean someone else controlling it etc

Uneducated on this subject, but i find it interesting

Based on the development of human civilizations and their religions therein, the biggest thing that religion seems to have provided was a framework by which larger groups of people could unite and form more complex societies. These massive societies then proved far more advantageous to the survival and growth of the species relative to the smaller groups that roamed the Earth prior.
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People can be obnoxious regardless of religious beliefs.

A Christian might be a self-righteous prick. An atheist might be a total cock. A Muslim might be a huge dick. A Mormon might be a complete penis. An agnostic may or may not get erections in public.
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Verdekal posted...

I believe the part of the brain responsible for religion is closely linked to the both the social and moral parts.

There is no part of the brain responsible for religion. It is an external function.
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utarefson posted...

Well I'm agnostic so I believe that something created us, just not a God in a traditional sense. Believing that there is nothing after death, makes very little sense to me. I know for certain that my energy will exist in some form or other...whether it is sentient or not is unknowable....but nothing? No that doesn't happen. There is always something, even if its anti matter or a gaseous cloud.

Will I be aware of anything after death? Probably not but I know this planet will be destroyed and my energy will be here when that happens, it will be flung out into the cosmos and perhaps be used to create a star or another planet.

I'm similar...
I believe something created us, but has since moved on and doesn't watch over us or give a damn about us anymore.

Prayers go un-answered because whatever created has no further interest in what we do with our life.

As far as death, once you're dead, you're dead. I certainly don't believe there is a conscious afterlife where everything is amazing 24/7.
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Ghost_Of_Donkey posted...

I am an atheist because it is stupid to believe in something that hasn't been proven. It is comical actually. Atheists have feelings just like any theists does. But me, I tend to have none. I am one of those odd atheists.

So why aren't you agnostic?

There's no proof against an afterlife / superior being either.
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Ranmaru-9 posted...

I feel sorry for them. They basically believe in nothing. How do they feel when their parents die? The only why I've dealt with it is believing that they're in heaven and that I'll see them again someday. If I didn't believe that, there would be no reason for me to go on.

Yeah, as an atheist, its a pretty lame thinking about what being dead is like. I kind of wish I believed in an afterlife, it would make the thought of death less depressing.

Patty_Fleur posted...

There's no reason to have morals if you're atheist. Do what ever you can for pleasure in your short time on earth.

You don't need religion to have morals.

I think the pressure of the afterlife sounds pretty bad as well. Like everyone you met in life wouldn't be in Heaven. So how can you feel settled in Heaven knowing you have people you love or admire burning away in Hell? Doesn't really make sense to me.

Death is hard for everyone to deal with. But people live on after death in peoples memories and the values/influence they pass to others. I take some comfort in that.
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Of all the afterlife myths, I think I would prefer reincarnation if I were to believe any of them.

Either that or the idea that I would exist as a disembodied "soul" that can still experience the cosmos.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Ghost_Of_Donkey posted...

I am an atheist because it is stupid to believe in something that hasn't been proven. It is comical actually. Atheists have feelings just like any theists does. But me, I tend to have none. I am one of those odd atheists.

So why aren't you agnostic?

There's no proof against an afterlife / superior being either.

Most atheist fall into the category "agnostic atheist" because it makes more sense.

Then again claims like the supernatural and the after life are dumb to make from the beginning because they're all unfalsifiable, which brings up the illogical fallacy of "well you can't prove it doesn't exist either!"
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