Poll of the Day > I flat out don't let stores check my receipt anymore

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Mead
01/05/18 9:09:28 AM
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Out of annoyance more than anything else. Dumb hill to die on but it is strangely insulting to me when they act like I have to let them see my receipt. Thats my receipt they can get their own if they like looking at them so bad

Its my stuff, I already paid for it. You cant keep me from leaving your store with my stuff. Im not gonna wait in a line to leave behind other shoppers so you can make some poor old veteran evaluate receipts.

If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.
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Nightengale
01/05/18 10:05:21 AM
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They can't legally stop you from leaving but they can get your face on the cameras in case you come back in

I don't really think that would happen often but I'm sure it could
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adjl
01/05/18 10:06:58 AM
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Mead posted...
If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.


And in places with self-serve checkouts?
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Nightengale
01/05/18 10:07:35 AM
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adjl posted...
Mead posted...
If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.

And in places with self-serve checkouts?

Usually have attendants watching the transactions take place on their own screen
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InfestedAdam
01/05/18 10:15:37 AM
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Mead posted...
Thats my receipt they can get their own if they like looking at them so bad

You very much prefer said attendant at each door go about obtaining a copy for each individual receipt prior to letting you go? That's going to add more time than the few seconds it takes for them to glance at your receipt.

Mead posted...
Its my stuff, I already paid for it

Yes but how do they know you didn't sneak in some other item along with the items listed on the receipt? Much like anything that adds another step to what we gotta deal with, I blame those who take advantage of the system. In these cases, probably sneaking in expensive items along with the products they bought.

Checking the receipt isn't 100% fool proof but it might catch the occasional dumb thief who have $100+ worth of items in the bag/cart but less than $20 or too few items shown on the receipt.

Nightengale posted...
Usually have attendants watching the transactions take place on their own screen

Depending on the store, some of those self-checkout areas have 8-10 machines and only one attendant. Large stores like Wal-Mart would probably have to have a second or maybe even third attendant and I doubt they'll do that.
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Blighboy
01/05/18 10:16:37 AM
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Does shoplifting not exist where you live
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BADoglick
01/05/18 10:35:06 AM
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You remind me of the customers who call into the bank I work at and refuse to verify your identity out of some stupid ass principle, completely oblivious to the fact that fraud and theft happen on a daily basis.
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Mead
01/05/18 10:46:41 AM
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BADoglick posted...
You remind me of the customers who call into the bank I work at and refuse to verify your identity out of some stupid ass principle, completely oblivious to the fact that fraud and theft happen on a daily basis.


What does that have to do with this situation at all

I dont shoplift but if a store suspected it then asking for my receipt would be a different story, I could still refuse and they could call the police if they wanted.

Blighboy posted...
Does shoplifting not exist where you live


Sure and it is the stores job to manage that issue, not paying customers

InfestedAdam posted...
You very much prefer said attendant at each door go about obtaining a copy for each individual receipt prior to letting you go? That's going to add more time than the few seconds it takes for them to glance at your receipt.


. . .wot?
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InfestedAdam
01/05/18 10:54:08 AM
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Mead posted...
Sure and it is the stores job to manage that issue, not paying customers

They are managing said issue by ensuring to some degree the items in the bag/cart makes some sense with the items/price listed on the receipt. Our only contribution to this is to wait a few seconds while someone take a glance at our receipt and bag/cart to keep us honest. I care not what losses a store might incur from theft but I wouldn't want such behaviors/action to be rewarded either.

Mead posted...
. . .wot?

Unless I misunderstood what you meant when you said,

Mead posted...
Thats my receipt they can get their own if they like looking at them so bad


what option is that going to leave them then? Just let you walk out the door without being checked? That may not be an option on their end regardless of your grievous with it so if you are so adamant about them not looking at your receipt, do you prefer them obtaining a copy first before checking your bag/cart?
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MannerSaurus
01/05/18 10:55:36 AM
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Mead, this topic is inspirational.
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GeoMaggs
01/05/18 10:56:39 AM
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My main issue with it is that they don't really look at everything you bought, either. They just quickly scan the receipt and do a cursory glance into the cart. What's the fucking point. Plus, there's nothing to steal after you leave the checkout lanes anyway, and there's usually someone else checking the cart while you put items up to scan.

Oh, and if the receipt isn't marked by the checker, are you gonna have problems returning an item?
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Solid Sonic
01/05/18 10:57:55 AM
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Mead posted...
What does that have to do with this situation at all

The word we're looking for is you're being "obstinate".
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BADoglick
01/05/18 11:00:00 AM
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Mead posted...
BADoglick posted...
You remind me of the customers who call into the bank I work at and refuse to verify your identity out of some stupid ass principle, completely oblivious to the fact that fraud and theft happen on a daily basis.


What does that have to do with this situation at all

I dont shoplift but if a store suspected it then asking for my receipt would be a different story, I could still refuse and they could call the police if they wanted.


Because in both circumstances, you think you're above the rules, and that the employees should just assume that you're not a thief. In actuality, your behavior could be deemed suspicious, which makes people go out of their way to make sure that you aren't stealing. You make things ten times harder for everyone because you won't spend ten seconds following simple and understandable procedure. It's obnoxious.
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BADoglick
01/05/18 11:01:54 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Mead posted...
What does that have to do with this situation at all

The word we're looking for is you're being "obstinate".


Thank you. Exactly.
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InfestedAdam
01/05/18 11:07:27 AM
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GeoMaggs posted...
They just quickly scan the receipt and do a cursory glance into the cart. What's the f***ing point.

My guess is to catch the dumb thieves who make it too obvious. For example, having too many items in the bag/cart compared to what is listed on the receipt or obviously having $100+ worth of items but less than $20 shown on the receipt. No way will they have time to one-by-one check-off each item.

GeoMaggs posted...
Plus, there's nothing to steal after you leave the checkout lanes anyway, and there's usually someone else checking the cart while you put items up to scan.

I think it is more so for folks who use the self-checkout machines and attempting to sneak in some items with the ones they're paying for or not scanning all the items properly. I have read of stories of people re-scanning the same cheap item so the number of items scan matches the number of items in the bag despite there being a difference in cost.
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Mead
01/05/18 11:08:14 AM
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InfestedAdam posted...
Just let you walk out the door without being checked?


That is literally what they have to do unless they actually have reason to think Im stealing.

Honestly if it isnt busy Ill let them look at the stupid receipt. No real harm. But as is often the case if there are a couple people in front of me on the way out I am not stopping for that nonsense. Sometimes they say something and I just say no thanks and casually walk out.

I know it just seems obnoxious to some of you but from my perspective you have to personally draw a line somewhere. Otherwise theyre gonna be patting you down before they let you leave their store.
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MannerSaurus
01/05/18 11:13:50 AM
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Mead posted...
InfestedAdam posted...
Just let you walk out the door without being checked?


That is literally what they have to do unless they actually have reason to think Im stealing.

Honestly if it isnt busy Ill let them look at the stupid receipt. No real harm. But as is often the case if there are a couple people in front of me on the way out I am not stopping for that nonsense. Sometimes they say something and I just say no thanks and casually walk out.

I know it just seems obnoxious to some of you but from my perspective you have to personally draw a line somewhere. Otherwise theyre gonna be patting you down before they let you leave their store.


If someone that isn't law enforcement tries to pat me down, I will unhinge their jaw. That shit isn't going to fly. Not to mention, I carry a pistol 24/7. Some minimum wage worker touching a loaded gun attached to my body is ALSO not going to be happening.
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InfestedAdam
01/05/18 11:20:39 AM
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Mead posted...
That is literally what they have to do unless they actually have reason to think Im stealing.

As BADoglick suggest, being so bothered by something so trivial is not a cause for them to think you're a thief but at the same time it personally would make it me wonder, "What has that person got to hide that they can't spend several seconds for me to just take a glance?". Some nuisances are simply too minor to bother wasting my breath to complain about.

Not directly related but If I don't have the time or patience to spend several seconds for said attendant to do his/her job, I have other issues to deal with. It's like me having to spend another minute at a stop light because the car in front of me took too long to move. Is it annoying, yes. Is that one minute wasted going to ruin my day, of course not. I'll be a liar if I say I perfectly use every minute of my day and can't spare that minute.

Mead posted...
from my perspective you have to personally draw a line somewhere. Otherwise theyre gonna be patting you down before they let you leave their store.

I blame the thieves whose actions may have resulted in these checks being done. The store has every right to limit loss of profit from the actions of these individuals. I wouldn't even consider this "invasion of privacy".

MannerSaurus posted...
If someone that isn't law enforcement tries to pat me down, I will unhinge their jaw. That s*** isn't going to fly. Not to mention, I carry a pistol 24/7. Some minimum wage worker touching a loaded gun attached to my body is ALSO not going to be happening.

I doubt it'll ever happen but what if by some bizarre chance it becomes a nationwide store policy and must be done in order to shop there? It is a private business so they have the right to refuse us if we don't oblige. On another note, a few stores in my area do have security guards checking the receipts and bags/cart. Would you be opposed to them doing a pat down?
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wwinterj25
01/05/18 11:21:02 AM
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It's always amusing when I hear this kind of stuff. Does this happen with every store over there? I've only had a store worker ask to look at my receipt once over here as most the time folk get served and just walk out without any issue. The security alarms will go off if anything is stolen/not scanned anyway.
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01/05/18 11:21:35 AM
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Mead
01/05/18 11:26:37 AM
#21:


InfestedAdam posted...
I'll be a liar if I say I perfectly use every minute of my day and can't spare that minute.


Some of us need to hurry up and get back home so we can pet dogs and eat a whole thing of Pringles ok
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Smarkil
01/05/18 11:32:17 AM
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It annoys me a bit too. I hate walking through those damn scanners every time expecting them to go off. Makes me feel like a criminal.

I remember that happening the first time I bought condoms with my girlfriend at the time. Super awkward.
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dancer62
01/05/18 11:55:15 AM
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Mead posted...
Out of annoyance more than anything else. Dumb hill to die on but it is strangely insulting to me when they act like I have to let them see my receipt. Thats my receipt they can get their own if they like looking at them so bad

Its my stuff, I already paid for it. You cant keep me from leaving your store with my stuff. Im not gonna wait in a line to leave behind other shoppers so you can make some poor old veteran evaluate receipts.

If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.

Christmas shopping 5 years ago at Walmart, incredibly crowded, long checkout lines, lackadaisical cashiers, finally checked out, got to the door 20 feet away, jerkwood door man wants my receipt: who knows where the receipt is, might be in one of the sacks, might be in my purse, might be in a parka pocket, wherever I stuffed it when I finally got checked out. When I found my receipt, I took it to the long line at the service desk and got a refund... wasted a lot of time, but why reward stores for behavior like that? Went to Target to finish my shopping.

I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've been to Walmart since. My business isn't going to make or break a store, but I definitely vote with my dollars.
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Zeus
01/05/18 12:14:55 PM
#24:


Usually aren't they just checking to make sure that you have a receipt and not going through your shit to see if it matches up?

In general, I can't think of many places where it's common practice for an employee to check a receipt. Maybe just Wal-Mart which, as everybody knows, has *massive* problems with theft.

http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-theft-threatens-profits-and-police-2016-6

And they've tried creative ways to deal with it:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wal-mart-changes-how-it-punishes-shoplifters-1513864840
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old_school227
01/05/18 12:30:03 PM
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I think they do this more so people take their receipt with them rather than try and catch people at the door. It's really common for people to grab receipts out of the trash then grab items that are on the receipt off the shelf, and then "return" them for a refund.
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Solid Snake07
01/05/18 12:49:58 PM
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I've literally never had this happen to me
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Renraku_San
01/05/18 12:50:42 PM
#27:


Mead posted...
Out of annoyance more than anything else. Dumb hill to die on but it is strangely insulting to me when they act like I have to let them see my receipt. Thats my receipt they can get their own if they like looking at them so bad

Its my stuff, I already paid for it. You cant keep me from leaving your store with my stuff. Im not gonna wait in a line to leave behind other shoppers so you can make some poor old veteran evaluate receipts.

If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.


It's their store - it's not your right to be on their private property. When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

Child.
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Nightengale
01/05/18 1:00:30 PM
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Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though
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Golden Road
01/05/18 1:00:58 PM
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Where the hell are these "long receipt lines"? Like I've been to a few places where they check receipts (or glance, anyway), but it's more like a couple seconds, not a thorough check by any means, not really long enough to form a real line of customers eagerly waiting to have their receipts glanced upon.
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Renraku_San
01/05/18 1:02:08 PM
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Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though


Inside they can. Once you step outside they can try, but you aren't required to stop.

I'm a lawyer btw, and I've handled multiple cases like this so don't question me.
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SoiledSnake
01/05/18 1:02:14 PM
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so what tc? they lose a lot to shoplifting, unless you don't believe that. It only takes like 10 secs. I've seen people who get mad when they check, it's a stupid thing to get mad about, if they check imo
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likehelly
01/05/18 1:31:18 PM
#32:


BADoglick posted...
You remind me of the customers who call into the bank I work at and refuse to verify your identity out of some stupid ass principle, completely oblivious to the fact that fraud and theft happen on a daily basis.

"yeah can you guys check my account and tell me how much is there?"

"sure, what's your name or account number?"

"why do you need that"
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likehelly
01/05/18 1:32:33 PM
#33:


SoiledSnake posted...
so what tc? they lose a lot to shoplifting, unless you don't believe that. It only takes like 10 secs. I've seen people who get mad when they check, it's a stupid thing to get mad about, if they check imo

those people get mad because they think the store is targeting them and are implying that the store thinks they stole something, when random harry was able to just walk out the store without being accosted

well random harry only had one fucking item, there's no need to check his bag.
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argonautweakend
01/05/18 1:35:35 PM
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look if the line is 50 people deep and it doesnt look like theyre being super dilligent about it i wont stop. if a guy comes up and asks me ill show it. i paid for it, but obviously he doesnt know that.
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RedPixel
01/05/18 1:37:10 PM
#35:


You guys are giving Mead exactly what he wants.

Attention.
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adjl
01/05/18 1:37:38 PM
#36:


Nightengale posted...
adjl posted...
Mead posted...
If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.

And in places with self-serve checkouts?

Usually have attendants watching the transactions take place on their own screen


Watching half a dozen registers' worth of transactions on a separate screen isn't going to help them make sure everything gets scanned.
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argonautweakend
01/05/18 1:38:07 PM
#37:


Nightengale posted...
adjl posted...
Mead posted...
If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.

And in places with self-serve checkouts?

Usually have attendants watching the transactions take place on their own screen


Had somebody ask me to do a price check on the one register while their companion on the one diagonal ran out with a cart full of stuff.

Funny thing is I didnt even do the price check. for two whole dollars I figure i'd give it to him. turn around when im done(one minute tops), companion still has a transaction on the other screen but no items in sight. i walk outside and I see a truck gate being slammed shut and it hauling ass.

i mean that is a weird outlier but i just wanted to tell a story,
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Mead
01/05/18 1:39:33 PM
#38:


Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though


Inside they can. Once you step outside they can try, but you aren't required to stop.

I'm a lawyer btw, and I've handled multiple cases like this so don't question me.


I officially question you.

They absolutely can not stop you from leaving unless they have reason to believe you are committing a crime. I also find it very difficult to believe that you are a lawyer given the sheer amount of stupid posts you make on this board.
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likehelly
01/05/18 1:39:43 PM
#39:


adjl posted...
Nightengale posted...
adjl posted...
Mead posted...
If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.

And in places with self-serve checkouts?

Usually have attendants watching the transactions take place on their own screen


Watching half a dozen registers' worth of transactions on a separate screen isn't going to help them make sure everything gets scanned.

no, but they are going to be able to notice if you didn't scan your case of soda, or some other similar big item. these machines also have scales in them, and there is a rough estimation of what an item should weigh in the system. it's why some machines freak out when go to scan, say, a gallon of milk and the machine goes UNEXPECTED ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA because you rested it on the bagging area before scanning it
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Mead
01/05/18 1:40:21 PM
#40:


RedPixel posted...
You guys are giving Mead exactly what he wants.

Attention.


Its not really a secret even
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adjl
01/05/18 1:42:20 PM
#41:


likehelly posted...
adjl posted...
Nightengale posted...
adjl posted...
Mead posted...
If they really want to make sure everything gets scanned, train the cashiers to do so.

And in places with self-serve checkouts?

Usually have attendants watching the transactions take place on their own screen


Watching half a dozen registers' worth of transactions on a separate screen isn't going to help them make sure everything gets scanned.

no, but they are going to be able to notice if you didn't scan your case of soda, or some other similar big item. these machines also have scales in them, and there is a rough estimation of what an item should weigh in the system. it's why some machines freak out when go to scan, say, a gallon of milk and the machine goes UNEXPECTED ITEM IN THE BAGGING AREA because you rested it on the bagging area before scanning it


Smaller items, however, are going to be notably harder to notice. Regardless of whether or not there's an attendant on the self-serve area, that attendant isn't going to have the same view of the cart that an attendant at a normal register would have.
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argonautweakend
01/05/18 1:43:41 PM
#42:


"and there is a rough estimation of what an item should weigh in the system."

they took these out of my self checkouts, and its both good and bad:

good: machines much easier to use. doesnt annoy customers to bag their stuff, doesnt go into a tizzy because an item was moved slightly on the scale.

bad: makes it way, way easier to steal. I can come up and ask to open tote containers or coolers or w/e to see if they're empty whereas before it would know the weight and any extra would throw it off. but if my back is turned for a second somebody can easily throw two items in a bag while paying for one. Also, people scan items twice now way more frequently. this isnt that big of an issue, but I always predicted this would happen without the bag/weigh item step, because making you do something means you dont hold the item next to the scanner longer. Despite somebody on here saying "why would somebody scan their item twice?!?!?" once when i brought that up in the past

so yeah, im overall glad its gone as its less hassle on my end, but it does make it much, much easier to steal.
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Mead
01/05/18 1:45:00 PM
#43:


Couldnt they just do a receipt check when people leave the self checkout area then
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Smarkil
01/05/18 1:45:31 PM
#44:


Mead posted...

I officially question you.

They absolutely can not stop you from leaving unless they have reason to believe you are committing a crime. I also find it very difficult to believe that you are a lawyer given the sheer amount of stupid posts you make on this board.


As I understand it, it's a weird grey area. I think their LP's or approved personnel have to witness you select, conceal, and attempt to walk out with an item before they can detain you. But because this is very much a grey area that opens up a whole body of civil suits, most companies won't bother.
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adjl
01/05/18 1:46:34 PM
#45:


Mead posted...
Couldnt they just do a receipt check when people leave the self checkout area then


They do. At the door. There really isn't any reason not to lump that check in with a quick double-check of the stuff from manned registers.
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Mead
01/05/18 1:47:26 PM
#46:


adjl posted...
Mead posted...
Couldnt they just do a receipt check when people leave the self checkout area then


They do. At the door. There really isn't any reason not to lump that check in with a quick double-check of the stuff from manned registers.


Well belligerent types like me arent gonna have it
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Red_Frog
01/05/18 2:03:48 PM
#47:


I think this thread is missing the really obvious answer. Mead has a doppelganger that enjoys walks in Walmart at sunset, and also petty larceny.
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Nightengale
01/05/18 2:43:13 PM
#48:


Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though

Inside they can.

no, they kinda super can't
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SoiledSnake
01/05/18 2:44:54 PM
#49:


Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though

Inside they can.

no, they kinda super can't

would this matter to someone if they aren't up to shady shit?
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Mead
01/05/18 2:46:12 PM
#50:


SoiledSnake posted...
would this matter to someone if they aren't up to shady shit?


Yeah I just wanna buy my Pringles and Metamucil in peace
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