Poll of the Day > I flat out don't let stores check my receipt anymore

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Greenfox111
01/05/18 2:49:13 PM
#51:


MannerSaurus posted...
minimum wage worker

you... really seem to have some big issues with minimum wage workers
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ChaoticKnuckles
01/05/18 3:02:10 PM
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I just find it funny how they look like theyre checking the receipt but they give it back in like 3 seconds. And Im standing there like what was even the point? They obviously dont know from that quick glance whether I stole some stuff and dropped it in my cart after I paid for whats on the receipt, yet they check anyway.
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ChaoticKnuckles
01/05/18 3:03:54 PM
#53:


wwinterj25 posted...
It's always amusing when I hear this kind of stuff. Does this happen with every store over there? I've only had a store worker ask to look at my receipt once over here as most the time folk get served and just walk out without any issue. The security alarms will go off if anything is stolen/not scanned anyway.


Places with higher rates of theft are the ones that do it, at least in my experience. Whole Foods? No receipt check. Wal-Mart? You better believe they have someone standing there to check your receipt.
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Renraku_San
01/05/18 3:26:36 PM
#54:


Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though

Inside they can.

no, they kinda super can't


Ah you got me with the use of "super" - "your defendant is super wrong", when I get that in court I immediately lost my case.

Nice job man, how long have you practiced law? Where did you take the BAR?
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Renraku_San
01/05/18 3:28:14 PM
#55:


Mead posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though


Inside they can. Once you step outside they can try, but you aren't required to stop.

I'm a lawyer btw, and I've handled multiple cases like this so don't question me.


I officially question you.

They absolutely can not stop you from leaving unless they have reason to believe you are committing a crime. I also find it very difficult to believe that you are a lawyer given the sheer amount of stupid posts you make on this board.


So because I'm a lawyer, when I visit this site, I must post in a professional manner? On a fucking video game website? The fuck??
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Mead
01/05/18 3:32:42 PM
#56:


Renraku_San posted...
Mead posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though


Inside they can. Once you step outside they can try, but you aren't required to stop.

I'm a lawyer btw, and I've handled multiple cases like this so don't question me.


I officially question you.

They absolutely can not stop you from leaving unless they have reason to believe you are committing a crime. I also find it very difficult to believe that you are a lawyer given the sheer amount of stupid posts you make on this board.


So because I'm a lawyer, when I visit this site, I must post in a professional manner? On a fucking video game website? The fuck??


You express an astounding number of moronic opinions on a regular basis on potd. Ive had you tagged as a reminder for a long time.

The fact that you are laughably incorrect in this topic just reinforces it.
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Krazy_Kirby
01/05/18 3:43:35 PM
#57:


my favorite part of shopping at walmart is when they try to check my receipt. one time the guy even stopped me by placing a hand on my chest, he then tried to grab the receipt from my hand. it was the garden exit, i sent in an email complaining about it and i never saw that exit being used when i went back.

(i didnt even complain the first time something happened with the guy. he said something to me in a different language when i refused to show my receipt and kept walking. by the tone it was clearly an insult, probabaly a swear)
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Krazy_Kirby
01/05/18 3:48:31 PM
#58:


Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though


Inside they can. Once you step outside they can try, but you aren't required to stop.

I'm a lawyer btw, and I've handled multiple cases like this so don't question me.


where did you go to law school? detaining you can mean kidnapping, thats why they dont detain you unless they are sure. trying to force you to show your receipt and bag is an unlawful search. they can only do it when its like costco, and the membership is a contract that gives them permission to stop and check.
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MannerSaurus
01/05/18 4:13:27 PM
#59:


Greenfox111 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
minimum wage worker

you... really seem to have some big issues with minimum wage workers


I apologize, friend. I shouldn't have worded it so rudely, it just annoys me to picture myself when I was a teenager making minimum wage frisking another person as they try to leave the store I was working at after school.

Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though

Inside they can.

no, they kinda super can't


Ah you got me with the use of "super" - "your defendant is super wrong", when I get that in court I immediately lost my case.

Nice job man, how long have you practiced law? Where did you take the BAR?


I'm sorry, but if you are a lawyer, you are a terrible one. I know for undeniable fact it is a felony in the United States of America to detain another human being. That is false imprisonment or kidnapping. I have worked security professionally before, and you cannot go chasing someone if you are not a cop. You can throw someone out of your property, but you CAN NOT, ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES detain someone against their will without being a cop, unless they are a threat to you or someone else's life. If someone BREAKS IN TO YOUR HOUSE WITH A GUN and DROPS THEIR GUN AND RUNS, you aren't allowed to shoot them or chase them. You have to call the cops, because they are no longer a threat.

I don't know what kind of law school you went to, but you absolutely can not hold someone against their will. Not as a bouncer for a bar, not as A.P. for a retail store, not as general mall security, no where.
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Renraku_San
01/05/18 5:27:38 PM
#60:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Nightengale posted...
Renraku_San posted...
When you enter their building, you follow their rules.

They can't legally detain you though


Inside they can. Once you step outside they can try, but you aren't required to stop.

I'm a lawyer btw, and I've handled multiple cases like this so don't question me.


where did you go to law school? detaining you can mean kidnapping, thats why they dont detain you unless they are sure. trying to force you to show your receipt and bag is an unlawful search. they can only do it when its like costco, and the membership is a contract that gives them permission to stop and check.


Oh cool, so when someone breaks into your house and you catch them, make sure you don't "kidnap" them until the cops show up, cuz you'll get arrested.

Fuck outta here.
I'll dig up my bar exam results and the pass confirmation doc, since none of you believe I'm a lawyer.
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Mead
01/05/18 5:30:44 PM
#61:


Tell us more about the several cases youve handled regarding people not wanting their receipt to be checked
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Nightengale
01/05/18 5:31:18 PM
#62:


Hes edededdys lawyer
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Mead
01/05/18 5:32:01 PM
#63:


Nightengale posted...
Hes edededdys lawyer


big if true
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Nightengale
01/05/18 5:32:44 PM
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lmfao hahahahaha
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Renraku_San
01/05/18 5:39:17 PM
#65:


Mead posted...
Tell us more about the several cases youve handled regarding people not wanting their receipt to be checked


That would break client confidentiality laws and I could get disbarred. Wtf man...you don't see me trying to fuck with your career do you?

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/confidentiality_or_attorney.authcheckdam.pdf
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Mead
01/05/18 5:45:45 PM
#66:


Those laws seem very convenient now that youve been called out

Especially since you werent asked about any specific individual, singular case details, or identifying information.

Youre turning out not to be up to muster to be even a pretend lawyer. If you actually do practice law in one form or another, I sympathize with anyone unfortunate enough to be paying for your services.
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MannerSaurus
01/05/18 5:46:06 PM
#67:


Holding someone that is an immediate threat so they don't harm anyone is not the same as holding someone hostage because they are stealing or breaking some kind of other law. Again, I literally did this for a living.
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argonautweakend
01/05/18 5:58:02 PM
#68:


I feel obligated to say this as a WM employee but they do not pay minimum wage. I think starting wage is 9 dollars an hour, which is above the federal minimum.

There are other sectors in retail that are far worse, even if WM isnt the best place itself.
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DiduXD
01/07/18 9:05:42 PM
#69:


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Mead
01/07/18 9:21:45 PM
#70:


What does he have to do with anything
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NightShift
01/07/18 9:52:33 PM
#71:


sure you can check it. its in one of those bags in the cart and im not stopping. slow me down or get in the way and we will have a problem. dont have time for stupid people's fucking pointless bullshit
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Krazy_Kirby
01/07/18 9:56:55 PM
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Renraku_San
01/08/18 10:44:50 AM
#73:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/consumer-law/are-receipt-checks-at-stores-worth-the-hassle.html

http://commons.law.famu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1079&context=famulawreview


That doesn't work - showing websites to the Judge and he'll just laugh you out of the courtroom, it's happened before.

Nice try tho fam.
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Smarkil
01/08/18 10:54:58 AM
#74:


Renraku_San posted...
Mead posted...
Tell us more about the several cases youve handled regarding people not wanting their receipt to be checked


That would break client confidentiality laws and I could get disbarred. Wtf man...you don't see me trying to fuck with your career do you?

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/confidentiality_or_attorney.authcheckdam.pdf


Renraku_San posted...
That doesn't work - showing websites to the Judge and he'll just laugh you out of the courtroom, it's happened before.

Nice try tho fam.


Then I guess your earlier post is useless eh?
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Renraku_San
01/08/18 10:59:27 AM
#75:


Smarkil posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Mead posted...
Tell us more about the several cases youve handled regarding people not wanting their receipt to be checked


That would break client confidentiality laws and I could get disbarred. Wtf man...you don't see me trying to fuck with your career do you?

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/confidentiality_or_attorney.authcheckdam.pdf


Renraku_San posted...
That doesn't work - showing websites to the Judge and he'll just laugh you out of the courtroom, it's happened before.

Nice try tho fam.


Then I guess your earlier post is useless eh?


No because I didn't show it to a Judge.
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MannerSaurus
01/08/18 11:10:30 AM
#76:


Everybody knows Renraku is wrong and doesn't know anything about the law. You can ask someone to remain still or stay, but you CAN. NOT. PHYSICALLY. RESTRAIN SOMEONE. IF. YOU. ARE. NOT. LAW ENFORCEMENT. (Unless they are an immediate threat to others.) You aren't even allowed to chase or shoot someone that broke into your house with a weapon if they drop the weapon and run away from you instead of waiting for police.
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Renraku_San
01/08/18 11:28:50 AM
#77:


I'm literally sitting in court right now and joking with the Judge how some people on gamefaqs think they know the law. He's reading all your posts and laughing his ass off.
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Smarkil
01/08/18 11:32:39 AM
#78:


Renraku_San posted...
Smarkil posted...
Renraku_San posted...
Mead posted...
Tell us more about the several cases youve handled regarding people not wanting their receipt to be checked


That would break client confidentiality laws and I could get disbarred. Wtf man...you don't see me trying to fuck with your career do you?

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/confidentiality_or_attorney.authcheckdam.pdf


Renraku_San posted...
That doesn't work - showing websites to the Judge and he'll just laugh you out of the courtroom, it's happened before.

Nice try tho fam.


Then I guess your earlier post is useless eh?


No because I didn't show it to a Judge.


Are you a judge?
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slacker03150
01/08/18 11:34:32 AM
#79:


Last time I went to sam's club, I used the scan and go app, they didn't even look in my cart, they just scanned the phone and I walked. When I have the receipt they at least stand up and take a cursory glance usually.
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MannerSaurus
01/08/18 11:49:04 AM
#80:


Renraku_San posted...
I'm literally sitting in court right now and joking with the Judge how some people on gamefaqs think they know the law. He's reading all your posts and laughing his ass off.


Except that isn't actually happening. And I have worked security and AP at different locations in my life, and it is absolutely against the law to detain someone that isn't an immediate threat. It doesn't matter what state you're in. I hate being toxic sounding on here, but you are a fucking fraud and you don't know much about American law. You literally get taught this at any security license class, armed or unarmed, and any tactical self defense or concealled carry class. And any employer will tell you the same for fear of legal repercussion, doesn't matter if you're a bouncer or mall night security. I'm sorry, but you are ignorant and a phoney.
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 11:53:12 AM
#81:


So how long till TC gets arrested for shop lifting? Take the two seconds to show your fucking receipt and make their and your life a little bit easier. You can tell who in this topic has never worked retail and had to deal with douche bags like them on a daily basis.
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OhhhJa
01/08/18 11:54:09 AM
#82:


Renraku_San posted...
I'm literally sitting in court right now and joking with the Judge how some people on gamefaqs think they know the law. He's reading all your posts and laughing his ass off.

This happened
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Mead
01/08/18 11:57:03 AM
#83:


How would I possibly get arrested for shoplifting

Ive worked retail before and worked as a shift manager in a video store for a few years, you have no clue what you are talking about
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 12:02:03 PM
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Believe me I do but if you leave the store and they ask for the receipt and you refuse to show it they could easily think you are stealing have you arrested or banned from the store and if you have worked retail you would realise how much of an ass you are being and how annoying people like you are as well as acting like a child about a two second inconvenience.
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OhhhJa
01/08/18 12:05:22 PM
#85:


I worked in retail for 2 and a half years. A lot of people who work retail seem to think they've suffered some great injustice and have a gigantic chip on their shoulder and think that people should bow to them for their great service to the world. News flash... lots of jobs suck outside of retail
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OhhhJa
01/08/18 12:05:58 PM
#86:


spikethedevil posted...
Believe me I do but if you leave the store and they ask for the receipt and you refuse to show it they could easily think you are stealing have you arrested or banned from the store and if you have worked retail you would realise how much of an ass you are being and how annoying people like you are as well as acting like a child about a two second inconvenience.

They can't arrest you without any evidence you've stolen anything
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 12:06:21 PM
#87:


I never said I have suffered some great injustice or that other jobs don't suck but yea put words in my mouth and claim I said something I didn't.
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 12:07:19 PM
#88:


OhhhJa posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Believe me I do but if you leave the store and they ask for the receipt and you refuse to show it they could easily think you are stealing have you arrested or banned from the store and if you have worked retail you would realise how much of an ass you are being and how annoying people like you are as well as acting like a child about a two second inconvenience.

They can't arrest you without any evidence you've stolen anything


Over here in the UK we only check your receipt if we think you are stealing or if you set the alarms off and if you refused to show your receipt chances are you would be arrested or banned from the store.
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Mead
01/08/18 12:10:38 PM
#89:


Wow @spikethedevil must have graduated from the same law school as @Renraku_San
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 12:12:19 PM
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Clearly a better one than you. If you don't show your receipt then what proof do you have that you payed for those items?
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helIy
01/08/18 12:16:10 PM
#92:


renraku is just the dumbest troll

like larry and ededdy are just miles above him
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ZiggiStardust
01/08/18 12:19:14 PM
#93:


a store hasn't asked me for a receipt in... man, i don't know how long, ok?

maybe back when i was a teenager was the last time?
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Jen0125
01/08/18 12:28:00 PM
#94:


spikethedevil posted...
Clearly a better one than you. If you don't show your receipt then what proof do you have that you payed for those items?


so whenever i opt to not have a receipt printed at the self checkout i'm stealing even though i paid for the items?
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 12:41:30 PM
#95:


As I said they only ask to check if they actually think you're stealing or if you set the alarms and we usually ask you which register you payed at if you don't have a receipt so we can ask the cashier but obvious I don't know how things are done in the US.
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Jen0125
01/08/18 12:41:54 PM
#96:


that's not what i asked.
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spikethedevil
01/08/18 12:46:30 PM
#97:


No you're not stealing but there is always someone manning said checkouts over here anyway so they don't need to check your receipt.
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NightShift
01/08/18 12:51:34 PM
#98:


wow. lmao. oh jeez....
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Jen0125
01/08/18 12:59:31 PM
#99:


so your original point is negated because you said you have no proof of purchase with no receipt and it's theft. so if it's not theft to not have a receipt why do they need to check your receipt?
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Far-Queue
01/08/18 1:00:25 PM
#100:


Renraku_San is as much of a lawyer as I am Spider-Man.
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