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voldothegr8 01/18/18 8:50:09 AM #1:	https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2018/01/17/californian-income-inequality-tops-mexico/ Californians love sermonizing on the plight of Americas poor and disenfranchisedif only penny-pinching republicans would shell out for a bigger welfare state then all our problems would be solved. Why not build more homes for the homeless, or invest in better education for our kids? The state can solve the problem of poverty, they argue. And to be fair, theyve put their money where their mouth is: over the last few decades California has built one of Americas most lavish welfare states. Theres just one problem: its not working. The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding. As bad as that sounds, perhaps the more embarrassing statistic is that income inequality in California is at an all time high. This should be obvious to anyone whos actually been to California, and seen the proliferation of tent cities and urban slums: Inequality can be encapsulated in a number called the Gini Coefficient (GC): 0 is perfect equality, where everyone earns the same income, while 1 is perfect inequality, where one individual earns everything (leaving none for anyone else). Importantly, a higher GC means more inequality. In California the GC is 0.488. This is the second highest of all Americas major states, behind only New York, and it is also far higher than the national average of 0.479which itself is inflated by absurdly high GCs from large liberal states like California and New York. But its only when looking at the global context do you really get a sense of how bad it is. If California were an independent country, it would be the 17th most unequal country on earth, according to data from the World Bank. It would rest comfortably just behind the Honduras (at 0.511), and ahead of Guatemala (0.487) and Mexico (0.482). Now compare this to the other social democracies that California is wont to compare itself with: Canada sits at spot number 111, while Norway is way down the list at number 153 (out of 176 countries). In terms of inequality, California has more in common with banana republics than the social democracies it emulates. Perhaps they should get their own house in order before lecturing the rest of us on the benefits of socialism. There's a quote I've always loved. "When you bring there over here, here becomes there" --- Oda break tracker 2018- 0 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:894289354] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><quote>https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2018/01/17/californian-income-inequality-tops-mexico/ Californians love sermonizing on the plight of Americas poor and disenfranchisedif only penny-pinching republicans would shell out for a bigger welfare state then all our problems would be solved. Why not build more homes for the homeless, or invest in better education for our kids? The state can solve the problem of poverty, they argue. And to be fair, theyve put their money where their mouth is: over the last few decades California has built one of Americas most lavish welfare states. Theres just one problem: its not working. The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding. As bad as that sounds, perhaps the more embarrassing statistic is that income inequality in California is at an all time high. This should be obvious to anyone whos actually been to California, and seen the proliferation of tent cities and urban slums: Inequality can be encapsulated in a number called the Gini Coefficient (GC): 0 is perfect equality, where everyone earns the same income, while 1 is perfect inequality, where one individual earns everything (leaving none for anyone else). Importantly, a higher GC means more inequality. In California the GC is 0.488. This is the second highest of all Americas major states, behind only New York, and it is also far higher than the national average of 0.479which itself is inflated by absurdly high GCs from large liberal states like California and New York. But its only when looking at the global context do you really get a sense of how bad it is. If California were an independent country, it would be the 17th most unequal country on earth, according to data from the World Bank. It would rest comfortably just behind the Honduras (at 0.511), and ahead of Guatemala (0.487) and Mexico (0.482). Now compare this to the other social democracies that California is wont to compare itself with: Canada sits at spot number 111, while Norway is way down the list at number 153 (out of 176 countries). In terms of inequality, California has more in common with banana republics than the social democracies it emulates. Perhaps they should get their own house in order before lecturing the rest of us on the benefits of socialism.</quote> There's a quote I've always loved. "When you bring there over here, here becomes there"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 01/18/18 8:51:47 AM #2:	https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting <cite>treewojima posted [p:894289404] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/18/18 8:52:20 AM #3:	treewojima posted... https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 0 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:894289418] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting</quote> <quote>The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 01/18/18 8:52:39 AM #4:	voldothegr8 posted... Californians love sermonizing on the plight of Americas poor and disenfranchised I'm sure this is a credible news source of repute --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:894289426] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Californians love sermonizing on the plight of Americas poor and disenfranchised</quote> I'm sure this is a credible news source of repute</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 01/18/18 8:54:05 AM #5:	voldothegr8 posted... treewojima posted... https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding. if i'm in the mood for corn, i don't go searching for it in a shitty toilet <cite>treewojima posted [p:894289478] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting</quote> <quote>The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding.</quote></quote> if i'm in the mood for corn, i don't go searching for it in a shitty toilet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 01/18/18 8:56:06 AM #6:	I always knew California sucked. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:894289554] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>I always knew California sucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JBaLLEN66 01/18/18 9:01:46 AM #8:	Lmao that site is so badd --- Him being greedy is a good thing. That means he'll want to spend less and help us get out of this debt. Gamefreak36 <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:894289764] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>Lmao that site is so badd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 01/18/18 9:02:20 AM #9:	voldothegr8 posted... Perhaps they should get their own house in order before lecturing the rest of us on the benefits of socialism. Oh look, another person that has no idea what socialism is. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:894289785] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps they should get their own house in order before lecturing the rest of us on the benefits of socialism.</quote> Oh look, another person that has no idea what socialism is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Polycosm 01/18/18 9:03:56 AM #10:	I've been seeing this story a lot this past week. It's kind of weird how coordinated the timing is, considering how the data isn't exactly fresh off the press. I'm adamantly against California's welfare state policies, btw, but the line of attack that articles like this one takes is wholly unconvincing and unimpressive. --- BKSheikah owned me so thoroughly in the 2017 guru contest, I'd swear he used the Lens of Truth to pick his bracket. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:894289841] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>I've been seeing this story a lot this past week. It's kind of weird how coordinated the timing is, considering how the data isn't exactly fresh off the press. I'm adamantly against California's welfare state policies, btw, but the line of attack that articles like this one takes is wholly unconvincing and unimpressive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 01/18/18 9:04:08 AM #11:	voldothegr8 posted... treewojima posted... https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate California actually seems to be pretty much in the middle Oh, and also: All data are from the United States Census Bureau. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:894289857] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting</quote> <quote>The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding.</quote></quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate California actually seems to be pretty much in the middle Oh, and also: <quote>All data are from the United States Census Bureau.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/18/18 9:04:18 AM #12:	Pretty well known, though because it is driven by the cost of living rather than low wages, poor Californians aren't that bad off.... If they move to Texas --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:894289860] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>Pretty well known, though because it is driven by the cost of living rather than low wages, poor Californians aren't that bad off.... If they move to Texas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/18/18 9:04:58 AM #13:	It's called the supplemental poverty measure iirc --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:894289882] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>It's called the supplemental poverty measure iirc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 01/18/18 9:06:41 AM #14:	In California the GC is 0.488. This is the second highest of all Americas major states, behind only New York, and it is also far higher than the national average of 0.479which itself is inflated by absurdly high GCs from large liberal states like California and New York. Now this is the first time I've ever heard of the GC, but .488 doesn't sound "far higher" than .479. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:894289939] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><quote>In California the GC is 0.488. This is the second highest of all Americas major states, behind only New York, and it is also far higher than the national average of 0.479which itself is inflated by absurdly high GCs from large liberal states like California and New York.</quote> Now this is the first time I've ever heard of the GC, but .488 doesn't sound "far higher" than .479.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/18/18 9:10:06 AM #15:	DevsBro posted... In California the GC is 0.488. This is the second highest of all Americas major states, behind only New York, and it is also far higher than the national average of 0.479which itself is inflated by absurdly high GCs from large liberal states like California and New York. Now this is the first time I've ever heard of the GC, but .488 doesn't sound "far higher" than .479. When it's a 0-1 scale that's massive. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 0 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:894290048] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><quote>In California the GC is 0.488. This is the second highest of all Americas major states, behind only New York, and it is also far higher than the national average of 0.479which itself is inflated by absurdly high GCs from large liberal states like California and New York.</quote> Now this is the first time I've ever heard of the GC, but .488 doesn't sound "far higher" than .479.</quote> When it's a 0-1 scale that's massive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 01/18/18 9:12:45 AM #16:	When it's a 0-1 scale that's massive. Doesn't really sound like it. We're talking 1 on a scale from 0 to 10, 9 on a scale from 0 to 100, etc. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:894290160] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><quote>When it's a 0-1 scale that's massive.</quote> Doesn't really sound like it. We're talking 1 on a scale from 0 to 10, 9 on a scale from 0 to 100, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 01/18/18 9:17:26 AM #17:	Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:894290349] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 9:36:49 AM #18:	DarkChozoGhost posted... Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level. So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894291152] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level.</quote> So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 9:41:14 AM #19:	frozenshock posted... voldothegr8 posted... treewojima posted... https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate California actually seems to be pretty much in the middle Oh, and also: All data are from the United States Census Bureau. The statistic is measured by Supplemental Poverty Rate. Your own link, when sorted in that column, puts California at the top, at 23.8%. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894291323] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>treewojima posted...</cite> <quote>https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com well, this will certainly be a fair and balanced piece of reporting</quote> <quote>The sad truth of the matter is that Californias poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if youre a skeptical progressive then dont worry, even Politifact confirms this finding.</quote></quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate California actually seems to be pretty much in the middle Oh, and also: <quote>All data are from the United States Census Bureau.</quote></quote> The statistic is measured by Supplemental Poverty Rate. Your own link, when sorted in that column, puts California at the top, at 23.8%.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/18/18 9:50:01 AM #20:	many other valid points brought up against the article so far. one more: it conflates social democracy with socialism --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:894291677] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>many other valid points brought up against the article so far. one more: it conflates social democracy with socialism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/18/18 9:51:52 AM #21:	naw california is garbage for income inequality and poverty, but that has a lot to do with urban policy rather than their taxation and spending --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:894291758] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>naw california is garbage for income inequality and poverty, but that has a lot to do with urban policy rather than their taxation and spending</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 01/18/18 9:52:31 AM #22:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate This data isn't agreeing At least not if we're going by "per capita" I mean I generally think liberal economic ideas suck, but don't just make shit up --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:894291792] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate This data isn't agreeing At least not if we're going by "per capita" I mean I generally think liberal economic ideas suck, but don't just make shit up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 01/18/18 9:56:29 AM #23:	the figure being used in the OP is the supplemental poverty measure, although why it doesn't use the term is weird to me --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:894291966] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>the figure being used in the OP is the supplemental poverty measure, although why it doesn't use the term is weird to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 01/18/18 10:00:42 AM #24:	Great state --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:894292178] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>Great state</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 01/18/18 10:01:32 AM #25:	Fair, next --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:894292222] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 01/18/18 10:04:49 AM #26:	take THAT liberals! --- Playing: Dishonored: Death of the Outsider (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:894292368] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>take THAT liberals!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 01/18/18 10:06:59 AM #28:	Giant_Aspirin posted... take THAT liberals! Liberals literally caused this. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 0 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:894292459] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>take THAT liberals!</quote> Liberals literally caused this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Renault 01/18/18 10:09:33 AM #29:	that's what they get for not supporting saint trump hopefully all of them end up on the streets --- whats cat up to <cite>Renault posted [p:894292565] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>that's what they get for not supporting saint trump hopefully all of them end up on the streets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/18/18 10:10:08 AM #30:	I'm not surprised honestly. They talk big but really they are no better then the people they disagree with. Sad really. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894292595] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>I'm not surprised honestly. They talk big but really they are no better then the people they disagree with. Sad really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/18/18 10:27:29 AM #31:	The entire state (but especially the southern half) is a giant homeless magnet, alongside ludicrous rents and property values. No surprises here. It really is essentially a Central American banana republic, on the verge of a massive wealth flight. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:894293332] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>The entire state (but especially the southern half) is a giant homeless magnet, alongside ludicrous rents and property values. No surprises here. It really is essentially a Central American banana republic, on the verge of a massive wealth flight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 01/18/18 12:47:55 PM #32:	voldothegr8 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... take THAT liberals! Liberals literally caused this. Yes they did. Honestly this shows that both sides have their problems. A balance is best. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:894301324] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>take THAT liberals!</quote> Liberals literally caused this.</quote> Yes they did. Honestly this shows that both sides have their problems. A balance is best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackHorse6969 01/18/18 12:48:42 PM #33:	I wonder if this has anything to do with all the Mexican immigrants coming into the US...HMMMMM --- http://i.imgur.com/dMnyy10.jpg <cite>BlackHorse6969 posted [p:894301373] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if this has anything to do with all the Mexican immigrants coming into the US...HMMMMM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 1:11:31 PM #34:	Vindris_SNH posted... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate This data isn't agreeing At least not if we're going by "per capita" I mean I generally think liberal economic ideas suck, but don't just make shit up As I've already stated, sort the last column in that link, worst to best. That's the figure used in the OP, and California is at the top. It's per-capita poverty rate, adjusted for cost of living. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894302771] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vindris_SNH posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_poverty_rate This data isn't agreeing At least not if we're going by "per capita" I mean I generally think liberal economic ideas suck, but don't just make shit up</quote> As I've already stated, sort the last column in that link, worst to best. That's the figure used in the OP, and California is at the top. It's per-capita poverty rate, adjusted for cost of living.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 01/18/18 1:25:53 PM #36:	shockthemonkey posted... Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless. nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year) --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:894303646] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless.</quote> nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 01/18/18 5:22:12 PM #38:	darkjedilink posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level. So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living? Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:894318877] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level.</quote> So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living?</quote> Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 01/18/18 5:29:59 PM #39:	voldothegr8 posted... Californians love sermonizing on the plight of Americas poor and disenfranchisedif only penny-pinching republicans would shell out for a bigger welfare state then all our problems would be solved Jesus Christ the bias is comical... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:894319343] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote> Californians love sermonizing on the plight of Americas poor and disenfranchisedif only penny-pinching republicans would shell out for a bigger welfare state then all our problems would be solved</quote> Jesus Christ the bias is comical...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/18/18 5:33:40 PM #40:	shockthemonkey posted... Balrog0 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless. nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year) Ive read a few slice of life articles about homeless people who made the trip because benign homeless is a hot city was better than in a cold, wet rural area. Nothing statistically proving that a lot of people do it though. I don't remember if it's LA or SF, but there's literally a major city in California that has robots to chase away homeless people away from parking lots --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:894319571] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless.</quote> nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year)</quote> Ive read a few slice of life articles about homeless people who made the trip because benign homeless is a hot city was better than in a cold, wet rural area. Nothing statistically proving that a lot of people do it though. </quote> I don't remember if it's LA or SF, but there's literally a major city in California that has robots to chase away homeless people away from parking lots</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 01/18/18 5:40:06 PM #41:	Balrog0 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless. nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year) "The climate is hospitable" "Nah, it's not hospitable, except for the climate" wut? --- https://i.imgur.com/qUAL3fG.gifv <cite>Mizznox posted [p:894319959] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless.</quote> nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year)</quote> "The climate is hospitable" "Nah, it's not hospitable, except for the climate" wut?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/18/18 5:42:56 PM #42:	DarkChozoGhost posted... darkjedilink posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level. So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living? Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia. Bullshit, I'd take a trailer over a tent community all day long. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 0 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:894320102] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level.</quote> So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living?</quote> Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia.</quote> Bullshit, I'd take a trailer over a tent community all day long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 5:47:49 PM #43:	Mizznox posted... Balrog0 posted... shockthemonkey posted... Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless. nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year) "The climate is hospitable" "Nah, it's not hospitable, except for the climate" wut? "The climate is hospitable" in this context isn't talking about the weather, instead referring to day-to-day living as a homeless person. The counterpoint says that the only thing hospitable about being homeless in California is the weather, claiming that the day-to-day living as a homeless person in California is just plain shit. And it is - food is way more expensive, clean water is damned-near astronomical (so much so that Silicon Valley people are stealing raw water and selling it for $45 a gallon), shelter is scarce and damned-near inhospitable. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894320375] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mizznox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless.</quote> nah I don't think that's really plausible tbh California isn't even that hospitable to the homeless (except climate wise, it is nice most of the year)</quote> "The climate is hospitable" "Nah, it's not hospitable, except for the climate" wut?</quote> "The climate is hospitable" in this context isn't talking about the weather, instead referring to day-to-day living as a homeless person. The counterpoint says that the only thing hospitable about being homeless in California is the weather, claiming that the day-to-day living as a homeless person in California is just plain shit. And it is - food is way more expensive, clean water is damned-near astronomical (so much so that Silicon Valley people are stealing raw water and selling it for $45 a gallon), shelter is scarce and damned-near inhospitable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 01/18/18 5:54:31 PM #44:	darkjedilink posted... "The climate is hospitable" in this context isn't talking about the weather, instead referring to day-to-day living as a homeless person. I recognized that possibility, but I took it to be specifically talking about the weather. Guess he'd have to clarify. --- https://i.imgur.com/qUAL3fG.gifv <cite>Mizznox posted [p:894320738] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>"The climate is hospitable" in this context isn't talking about the weather, instead referring to day-to-day living as a homeless person.</quote> I recognized that possibility, but I took it to be specifically talking about the weather. Guess he'd have to clarify.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 01/18/18 6:02:31 PM #45:	voldothegr8 posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... darkjedilink posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level. So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living? Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia. Bullshit, I'd take a trailer over a tent community all day long. I'd take a Katrina FEMA trailer over an LA tent community in a fucking heartbeat. Hell, between my Alero and the tent, I'm taking the Alero. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894321192] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level.</quote> So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living?</quote> Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia.</quote> Bullshit, I'd take a trailer over a tent community all day long.</quote> I'd take a Katrina FEMA trailer over an LA tent community in a fucking heartbeat. Hell, between my Alero and the tent, I'm taking the Alero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 01/18/18 6:37:04 PM #46:	voldothegr8 posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... darkjedilink posted... DarkChozoGhost posted... Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level. So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living? Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia. Bullshit, I'd take a trailer over a tent community all day long. You ever been to LA? You ever been to a rural trailer park? --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:894323143] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkChozoGhost posted...</cite> <quote>Well no shit. Any homeless people that can get there will go there. And CA has many of the largest businesses in the country, and income disparity is a huge problem on a national level.</quote> So your arugment is that people too poor to afford a place to live are voluntarily moving to the state with the highest cost of living?</quote> Of course they do. Homeless people in LA have a higher quality of life than those renting in a trailer park in West Virginia or Georgia.</quote> Bullshit, I'd take a trailer over a tent community all day long.</quote> You ever been to LA? You ever been to a rural trailer park?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreedomEtrtment 01/20/18 3:54:55 AM #47:	@stallion_prime <cite>FreedomEtrtment posted [p:894416047] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote>@stallion_prime</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarlGrimes 01/20/18 4:23:45 AM #48:	shockthemonkey posted... Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless. Like in San Francisco where places were hosing down homeless people to keep them away, during a drought. --- You'll get a funeral if you don't wise up and call me....Carl Poppa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aM9Ch97U8 <cite>CarlGrimes posted [p:894416640] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Yes due to a climate that is hospitable to the homeless.</quote> Like in San Francisco where places were hosing down homeless people to keep them away, during a drought.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 01/20/18 4:52:14 AM #50:	Wariodorf posted... https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-economics-editorial/ And? Their data and conclusions are absolutely correct in this case. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:894417225] in California... [t:76214953]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wariodorf posted...</cite> <quote>https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-economics-editorial/</quote> And? Their data and conclusions are absolutely correct in this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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