Poll of the Day > People who are at fault in accidents that back up the freeway

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DrYuya 09/26/18 10:31:55 AM #1:	...They seriously need to be arrested or executed. Yeah yeah I know there's going to be the whiney virtue signalers here who say otherwise and talk about the importance of life and all that dumb crap...but these people are literally making thousands late for work and costing everyone hours of thier life, just so they can be inept worthless drivers. They dont deserve human rights. --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:909475543] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>...They seriously need to be arrested or executed. Yeah yeah I know there's going to be the whiney virtue signalers here who say otherwise and talk about the importance of life and all that dumb crap...but these people are literally making thousands late for work and costing everyone hours of thier life, just so they can be inept worthless drivers. They dont deserve human rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/26/18 10:34:36 AM #2:	DrYuya posted... ...They seriously need to be arrested or executed. Yeah yeah I know there's going to be the whiney virtue signalers here who say otherwise and talk about the importance of life and all that dumb crap...but these people are literally making thousands late for work and costing everyone hours of thier life, just so they can be inept worthless drivers. They dont deserve human rights. What a topic this will be --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909475670] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>...They seriously need to be arrested or executed. Yeah yeah I know there's going to be the whiney virtue signalers here who say otherwise and talk about the importance of life and all that dumb crap...but these people are literally making thousands late for work and costing everyone hours of thier life, just so they can be inept worthless drivers. They dont deserve human rights.</quote> What a topic this will be </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrYuya 09/26/18 10:35:34 AM #3:	I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:909475718] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/26/18 10:37:05 AM #4:	DrYuya posted... I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order Thats why you posted the thing you said --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909475796] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order</quote> Thats why you posted the thing you said</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJ StErOiDs 09/26/18 10:40:24 AM #5:	Being caught up in those aren't my favorite situations, either. But I just imagine them as being incredibly embarrassed - that's good enough for me. --- A plethora of DKC-related fanart to numb your mind: http://kjsteroids.deviantart.com <cite>KJ StErOiDs posted [p:909475962] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>Being caught up in those aren't my favorite situations, either. But I just imagine them as being incredibly embarrassed - that's good enough for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrYuya 09/26/18 10:46:06 AM #6:	KJ StErOiDs posted... Being caught up in those aren't my favorite situations, either. But I just imagine them as being incredibly embarrassed - that's good enough for me. I doubt they are...they probably are justifying it all as unavoidable as worthless idiots often do. And even if they are...its not enough. I usually do honk and throw trash at them though when I finally am able to pass...not that it really fixes the problem but it's the least I can do. --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:909476236] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>KJ StErOiDs posted...</cite> <quote>Being caught up in those aren't my favorite situations, either. But I just imagine them as being incredibly embarrassed - that's good enough for me.</quote> I doubt they are...they probably are justifying it all as unavoidable as worthless idiots often do. And even if they are...its not enough. I usually do honk and throw trash at them though when I finally am able to pass...not that it really fixes the problem but it's the least I can do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 09/26/18 10:53:51 AM #7:	Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. --- https://imgur.com/NkZUeFd <cite>kind9 posted [p:909476641] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 10:55:36 AM #8:	kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909476729] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kind9 09/26/18 10:57:56 AM #10:	Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. --- https://imgur.com/NkZUeFd <cite>kind9 posted [p:909476860] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 11:01:34 AM #11:	kind9 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. Perhaps the OP didn't need to. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909477053] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't need to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 11:02:02 AM #12:	kind9 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909477072] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 11:09:55 AM #13:	kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. aside from natural disasters or an unexpected health emergency, every "accident" youve ever seen can easily be chalked up to human error --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909477438] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> aside from natural disasters or an unexpected health emergency, every "accident" youve ever seen can easily be chalked up to human error</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 11:10:58 AM #14:	OhhhJa posted... kind9 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909477502] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine</quote> from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrYuya 09/26/18 11:15:09 AM #15:	Worked in insurance for about year...enough to see that theres almost never an accident that couldn't have been avoided if the person wasnt negligent... unless it's done to a parked vehicle (and sometimes even not those) so yeah I dont see the point of giving anyone a pass just because what they did is technically called an accident. Cheaters call hooking up with someone who's not thier significant other and repeatedly and purposefully ramming private parts together and accident as well...dont you know? If everyone else is out in the same rainstorm not having that same accident what makes the person who fucked up special...besides thier own unique negligence and/or carelessness? So we're back to what needs to happen to these special fuck ups...and I'm still sitting at jail time or execution depending on severity over here. --- It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of ass but still have plenty of bubblegum to chew at my leisure. <cite>DrYuya posted [p:909477727] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>Worked in insurance for about year...enough to see that theres almost never an accident that couldn't have been avoided if the person wasnt negligent... unless it's done to a parked vehicle (and sometimes even not those) so yeah I dont see the point of giving anyone a pass just because what they did is technically called an accident. Cheaters call hooking up with someone who's not thier significant other and repeatedly and purposefully ramming private parts together and accident as well...dont you know? If everyone else is out in the same rainstorm not having that same accident what makes the person who fucked up special...besides thier own unique negligence and/or carelessness? So we're back to what needs to happen to these special fuck ups...and I'm still sitting at jail time or execution depending on severity over here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 11:15:39 AM #16:	Troll_Police_ posted... OhhhJa posted... kind9 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew One of the problems is that driving tests are way too easy to pass. There are a lot of people out there who should never have gotten theirs <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909477754] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine</quote> from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> One of the problems is that driving tests are way too easy to pass. There are a lot of people out there who should never have gotten theirs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 11:16:43 AM #17:	DrYuya posted... theres almost never an accident that couldn't have been avoided if the person wasnt negligent while the rest of what you are saying is a massive overreaction, this is very accurate --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909477795] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>theres almost never an accident that couldn't have been avoided if the person wasnt negligent</quote> while the rest of what you are saying is a massive overreaction, this is very accurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 11:17:22 AM #18:	OhhhJa posted... Troll_Police_ posted... OhhhJa posted... kind9 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew One of the problems is that driving tests are way too easy to pass. There are a lot of people out there who should never have gotten theirs that is factual as well. 5 year tests, and actually make the tests you know... tests --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909477821] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine</quote> from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> One of the problems is that driving tests are way too easy to pass. There are a lot of people out there who should never have gotten theirs</quote> that is factual as well. 5 year tests, and actually make the tests you know... tests</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler X 09/26/18 11:43:36 AM #20:	DrYuya posted... I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order Yet all of civilized society has moved away from capital punishment. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:909479209] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order</quote> Yet all of civilized society has moved away from capital punishment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 12:02:53 PM #21:	Nichtcrawler X posted... DrYuya posted... I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order Yet all of civilized society has moved away from capital punishment. Yet we're the ones with SJWs. Seriously though, what needs doing is harsher penalties for distracted/impaired driving and advanced driving licenses that offer a guaranteed benefit like an insurance discount/cap or greater driver freedom (relative to a basic license). --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909480219] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order</quote> Yet all of civilized society has moved away from capital punishment.</quote> Yet we're the ones with SJWs. Seriously though, what needs doing is harsher penalties for distracted/impaired driving and advanced driving licenses that offer a guaranteed benefit like an insurance discount/cap or greater driver freedom (relative to a basic license).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 12:05:47 PM #22:	Troll_Police_ posted... OhhhJa posted... Troll_Police_ posted... OhhhJa posted... kind9 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means. Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent. The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew One of the problems is that driving tests are way too easy to pass. There are a lot of people out there who should never have gotten theirs that is factual as well. 5 year tests, and actually make the tests you know... tests Yeah mine was basically just, "can you turn the car on and drive around the block without killing anyone?" Truthfully, I probably shouldn't have passed it at the time but I think most 16 year olds arent really ready to drive <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909480402] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> Perhaps you don't know what the word negligent means.</quote> Perhaps the OP didn't say negligent.</quote> The overwhelming majority of accidents are cause by negligence though. Anyway, I dont think they should be arrested but they should definitely lose their license for a while or at least receive a massive fine</quote> from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> One of the problems is that driving tests are way too easy to pass. There are a lot of people out there who should never have gotten theirs</quote> that is factual as well. 5 year tests, and actually make the tests you know... tests</quote> Yeah mine was basically just, "can you turn the car on and drive around the block without killing anyone?" Truthfully, I probably shouldn't have passed it at the time but I think most 16 year olds arent really ready to drive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 12:07:13 PM #23:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Nichtcrawler X posted... DrYuya posted... I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order Yet all of civilized society has moved away from capital punishment. Yet we're the ones with SJWs. Seriously though, what needs doing is harsher penalties for distracted/impaired driving and advanced driving licenses that offer a guaranteed benefit like an insurance discount/cap or greater driver freedom (relative to a basic license). I've been driving 13 years with zero accidents and still pay out the ass for insurance. They definitely arent ready to give out any more discounts <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909480491] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order</quote> Yet all of civilized society has moved away from capital punishment.</quote> Yet we're the ones with SJWs. Seriously though, what needs doing is harsher penalties for distracted/impaired driving and advanced driving licenses that offer a guaranteed benefit like an insurance discount/cap or greater driver freedom (relative to a basic license).</quote> I've been driving 13 years with zero accidents and still pay out the ass for insurance. They definitely arent ready to give out any more discounts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 12:13:05 PM #24:	OhhhJa posted... I've been driving 13 years with zero accidents and still pay out the ass for insurance. They definitely arent ready to give out any more discounts That's why it should be a government enforcement, i.e. If you pass your advanced driver's license then insurance can't charge over X amount and cannot refuse to insure them for that reason. If an insurer refuses to insure then the driver could request an investigation checking if the company has insured an equivalent driver previously, which would lead to some kind of harsh penalty. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909480837] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>I've been driving 13 years with zero accidents and still pay out the ass for insurance. They definitely arent ready to give out any more discounts</quote> That's why it should be a government enforcement, i.e. If you pass your advanced driver's license then insurance can't charge over X amount and cannot refuse to insure them for that reason. If an insurer refuses to insure then the driver could request an investigation checking if the company has insured an equivalent driver previously, which would lead to some kind of harsh penalty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/26/18 12:29:17 PM #25:	Troll_Police_ posted... from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew The thing is, that "stupidity" is usually more carelessness/apathy than actual stupidity. Everyone knows you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road. Knowing that doesn't stop people from driving on the wrong side of the road if they feel entitled to take that risk. Retesting would only catch genuine incompetence, not people who competently choose to ignore the rules when nobody important is watching. That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:909481787] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> The thing is, that "stupidity" is usually more carelessness/apathy than actual stupidity. Everyone knows you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road. Knowing that doesn't stop people from driving on the wrong side of the road if they feel entitled to take that risk. Retesting would only catch genuine incompetence, not people who competently choose to ignore the rules when nobody important is watching. That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 12:35:07 PM #26:	adjl posted... That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909482153] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 12:37:44 PM #27:	Kyuubi4269 posted... adjl posted... That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement. as you should at every fucking age it makes it a lot easier to impose stricter penalties when we can show that less than 5 years ago you understood the rules. --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909482316] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement.</quote> as you should at every fucking age it makes it a lot easier to impose stricter penalties when we can show that less than 5 years ago you understood the rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 12:38:20 PM #28:	adjl posted... Troll_Police_ posted... from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew The thing is, that "stupidity" is usually more carelessness/apathy than actual stupidity. Everyone knows you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road. Knowing that doesn't stop people from driving on the wrong side of the road if they feel entitled to take that risk. Retesting would only catch genuine incompetence, not people who competently choose to ignore the rules when nobody important is watching. That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. There is definitely quite a bit of genuine stupidity on the roads. It's probably mostly apathy but there are a ton of drivers who really dont know a lot of basic rules <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909482347] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> The thing is, that "stupidity" is usually more carelessness/apathy than actual stupidity. Everyone knows you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road. Knowing that doesn't stop people from driving on the wrong side of the road if they feel entitled to take that risk. Retesting would only catch genuine incompetence, not people who competently choose to ignore the rules when nobody important is watching. That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> There is definitely quite a bit of genuine stupidity on the roads. It's probably mostly apathy but there are a ton of drivers who really dont know a lot of basic rules</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 12:45:59 PM #29:	OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... Troll_Police_ posted... from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew The thing is, that "stupidity" is usually more carelessness/apathy than actual stupidity. Everyone knows you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road. Knowing that doesn't stop people from driving on the wrong side of the road if they feel entitled to take that risk. Retesting would only catch genuine incompetence, not people who competently choose to ignore the rules when nobody important is watching. That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. There is definitely quite a bit of genuine stupidity on the roads. It's probably mostly apathy but there are a ton of drivers who really dont know a lot of basic rules exactly. when talking levels of human ignorance and stupidity, you can always err on the side of people being fucking morons who dont know anything. --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909482806] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>from the level of stupidity ive seen on the road, im in favor of 5 year drivers licenses that require you to retest in order to renew</quote> The thing is, that "stupidity" is usually more carelessness/apathy than actual stupidity. Everyone knows you're supposed to drive on the right side of the road. Knowing that doesn't stop people from driving on the wrong side of the road if they feel entitled to take that risk. Retesting would only catch genuine incompetence, not people who competently choose to ignore the rules when nobody important is watching. That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> There is definitely quite a bit of genuine stupidity on the roads. It's probably mostly apathy but there are a ton of drivers who really dont know a lot of basic rules</quote> exactly. when talking levels of human ignorance and stupidity, you can always err on the side of people being fucking morons who dont know anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 12:52:31 PM #30:	Troll_Police_ posted... it makes it a lot easier to impose stricter penalties when we can show that less than 5 years ago you understood the rules. I'm not okay with living under an authoritarian regime just because the general populus is handicapped. If we could cull the slow, we wouldn't need so many laws. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909483193] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>it makes it a lot easier to impose stricter penalties when we can show that less than 5 years ago you understood the rules.</quote> I'm not okay with living under an authoritarian regime just because the general populus is handicapped. If we could cull the slow, we wouldn't need so many laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/26/18 12:55:41 PM #31:	Kyuubi4269 posted... adjl posted... That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement. That's sensible and would cut down on a lot of the old age-related collisions. Good luck getting such legislation passed with all of the baby boomers in their 60's now, though. Even more so where boomers grew up with the "you must have a car to be independent!" propaganda, so having their licenses threatened would be considered a personal insult (to say nothing of how vital car ownership has become in many North American areas). Troll_Police_ posted... it makes it a lot easier to impose stricter penalties when we can show that less than 5 years ago you understood the rules. Eh, I don't know about that. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for violating it, especially when you're driving around with a signed contract stating you understand and will follow the rules of the road. It should be perfectly possible to impose stricter penalties without needing such proof, since they are themselves claiming to understand the rules every time they get behind the wheel. OhhhJa posted... There is definitely quite a bit of genuine stupidity on the roads. It's probably mostly apathy but there are a ton of drivers who really dont know a lot of basic rules I really don't know about that. Even the ones who say they didn't know the rules when they're caught violating them could very well be lying to save face. Some of the more nuanced rules like proper merging and implied minimum speed limits for fast lanes (which should really be explicitly posted), maybe, but accidents aren't typically caused by people not knowing nuanced rules, they're caused by people speeding or running stop signs or not checking blind spots. Everyone knows those rules, they just ignore them. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:909483379] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement.</quote> That's sensible and would cut down on a lot of the old age-related collisions. Good luck getting such legislation passed with all of the baby boomers in their 60's now, though. Even more so where boomers grew up with the "you must have a car to be independent!" propaganda, so having their licenses threatened would be considered a personal insult (to say nothing of how vital car ownership has become in many North American areas). <cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>it makes it a lot easier to impose stricter penalties when we can show that less than 5 years ago you understood the rules.</quote> Eh, I don't know about that. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse for violating it, especially when you're driving around with a signed contract stating you understand and will follow the rules of the road. It should be perfectly possible to impose stricter penalties without needing such proof, since they are themselves claiming to understand the rules every time they get behind the wheel. <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>There is definitely quite a bit of genuine stupidity on the roads. It's probably mostly apathy but there are a ton of drivers who really dont know a lot of basic rules</quote> I really don't know about that. Even the ones who say they didn't know the rules when they're caught violating them could very well be lying to save face. Some of the more nuanced rules like proper merging and implied minimum speed limits for fast lanes (which should really be explicitly posted), maybe, but accidents aren't typically caused by people not knowing nuanced rules, they're caused by people speeding or running stop signs or not checking blind spots. Everyone knows those rules, they just ignore them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 09/26/18 1:00:30 PM #32:	Troll_Police_ posted... kind9 posted... Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means. aside from natural disasters or an unexpected health emergency, every "accident" youve ever seen can easily be chalked up to human error Even most natural disasters can be chalked up to things like "WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU LIVE IN TORNADO ALLEY?!?!?!" --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:909483683] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kind9 posted...</cite> <quote>Perhaps you don't know what the word accident means.</quote> aside from natural disasters or an unexpected health emergency, every "accident" youve ever seen can easily be chalked up to human error</quote> Even most natural disasters can be chalked up to things like "WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU LIVE IN TORNADO ALLEY?!?!?!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 1:07:24 PM #33:	adjl posted... I really don't know about that I do. There are plenty of accidents caused by people that dont know the laws involving merging and yielding <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909484132] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>I really don't know about that</quote> I do. There are plenty of accidents caused by people that dont know the laws involving merging and yielding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/26/18 1:10:22 PM #34:	DrYuya posted... I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order It's usually not the same people. Plus why wouldn't you just take their driver's license...? wtf? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:909484336] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrYuya posted...</cite> <quote>I say executed because if they were there'd be less of them around to pull thier crap again in short order</quote> It's usually not the same people. Plus why wouldn't you just take their driver's license...? wtf?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/26/18 1:33:37 PM #35:	OhhhJa posted... adjl posted... I really don't know about that I do. There are plenty of accidents caused by people that dont know the laws involving merging and yielding Not knowing, or not caring? Or, for that matter, not noticing yield signs that would otherwise tell them who has right of way. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:909485715] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>I really don't know about that</quote> I do. There are plenty of accidents caused by people that dont know the laws involving merging and yielding</quote> Not knowing, or not caring? Or, for that matter, not noticing yield signs that would otherwise tell them who has right of way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/26/18 1:36:01 PM #36:	Gestapo in this topic. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:909485844] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>Gestapo in this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 2:26:33 PM #37:	SunWuKung420 posted... Gestapo in this topic. Yeah we should have zero regulations for driving! How about we let 7 year olds drive! We wouldnt want to be nazis after all! adjl posted... Not knowing, or not caring? Not knowing definitely. There are definitely tons of people who don't understand basic shit like that <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909488868] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Gestapo in this topic.</quote> Yeah we should have zero regulations for driving! How about we let 7 year olds drive! We wouldnt want to be nazis after all! <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Not knowing, or not caring?</quote> Not knowing definitely. There are definitely tons of people who don't understand basic shit like that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/26/18 2:31:39 PM #38:	OhhhJa posted... Yeah we should have zero regulations for driving! How about we let 7 year olds drive! We wouldnt want to be nazis after all! Executing people who get into car accidents is a far cry from allowing children to drive. That's quite an illogical leap to make. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:909489136] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah we should have zero regulations for driving! How about we let 7 year olds drive! We wouldnt want to be nazis after all!</quote> Executing people who get into car accidents is a far cry from allowing children to drive. That's quite an illogical leap to make.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/26/18 2:42:01 PM #39:	SunWuKung420 posted... OhhhJa posted... Yeah we should have zero regulations for driving! How about we let 7 year olds drive! We wouldnt want to be nazis after all! Executing people who get into car accidents is a far cry from allowing children to drive. That's quite an illogical leap to make. I'm not the TC. I didnt say that. Do you ever think before posting? <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909489749] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah we should have zero regulations for driving! How about we let 7 year olds drive! We wouldnt want to be nazis after all!</quote> Executing people who get into car accidents is a far cry from allowing children to drive. That's quite an illogical leap to make.</quote> I'm not the TC. I didnt say that. Do you ever think before posting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 2:45:06 PM #40:	sunny seems to have missed the part where nobody agrees that capital punishment is in anyway a reasonable sentence for vehicular collision. literally nobody aside from TC has agreed to that. most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909489960] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>sunny seems to have missed the part where nobody agrees that capital punishment is in anyway a reasonable sentence for vehicular collision. literally nobody aside from TC has agreed to that. most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/26/18 2:50:57 PM #41:	Troll_Police_ posted... most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:909490337] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote> most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving</quote> Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 09/26/18 2:55:38 PM #42:	SunWuKung420 posted... Troll_Police_ posted... most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits. They already do that. Ford has a limiter on the computer that prevents their cars from traveling more than 80MPH. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:909490607] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote> most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving</quote> Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits.</quote> They already do that. Ford has a limiter on the computer that prevents their cars from traveling more than 80MPH.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 2:56:10 PM #43:	SunWuKung420 posted... Troll_Police_ posted... most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits. i honestly cant tell if youre serious at this point. --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909490650] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote> most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving</quote> Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits.</quote> i honestly cant tell if youre serious at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 3:10:24 PM #44:	SunWuKung420 posted... Troll_Police_ posted... most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits. Cars are geared so you can run a low rpm on the motorway so inherently they can significantly exceed the speed limit. Also, speed isn't inherently dangerous, misuse and negligence is, so stopping speeding doesn't stop accidents. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909491474] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote> most of us are just discussing what we think would be REASONABLE regulation in order to promote safe driving</quote> Stop making cars that go 30-60 mph faster than most speed limits.</quote> Cars are geared so you can run a low rpm on the motorway so inherently they can significantly exceed the speed limit. Also, speed isn't inherently dangerous, misuse and negligence is, so stopping speeding doesn't stop accidents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/26/18 3:43:29 PM #45:	Speeding is the #2 cause of accidents while distracted driving is #1. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:909493364] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote>Speeding is the #2 cause of accidents while distracted driving is #1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/26/18 3:47:30 PM #46:	SunWuKung420 posted... Speeding is the #2 cause of accidents while distracted driving is #1. Oh I forgot cars explode when they pass the fucking speed limit. No, people go faster than is appropriate for the situation because they're are negligent, people crash at speed because they were already a liability. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:909493604] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Speeding is the #2 cause of accidents while distracted driving is #1.</quote> Oh I forgot cars explode when they pass the fucking speed limit. No, people go faster than is appropriate for the situation because they're are negligent, people crash at speed because they were already a liability.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancer62 09/26/18 3:53:21 PM #47:	Zeus posted... Plus why wouldn't you just take their driver's license...? wtf? The high crime city where I live, checkpoints found over 10% of cars stopped with no driver's license or suspended/revoked license. Solution? The police stopped doing random checkpoints. So, does taking the license accomplish anything? adjl posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... adjl posted... That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though. In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement. That's sensible and would cut down on a lot of the old age-related collisions. Good luck getting such legislation passed with all of the baby boomers in their 60's now, though. Check the statistics: age-related risk of accidents, highest risk 16-45. accident rates start dropping after age 45 with the lowest risk of accidents: 65 and older. --- If ballet was easy, it would be pointe-less <cite>dancer62 posted [p:909493944] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> Plus why wouldn't you just take their driver's license...? wtf?</quote> The high crime city where I live, checkpoints found over 10% of cars stopped with no driver's license or suspended/revoked license. Solution? The police stopped doing random checkpoints. So, does taking the license accomplish anything? <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>That said, there is a lot of merit in the idea of requiring mandatory retesting after, say, age 60. That's a specific subset of bad drivers, though.</quote> In the UK you need to renew regularly and get eye tests when you reach retirement.</quote> That's sensible and would cut down on a lot of the old age-related collisions. Good luck getting such legislation passed with all of the baby boomers in their 60's now, though.</quote> Check the statistics: age-related risk of accidents, highest risk 16-45. accident rates start dropping after age 45 with the lowest risk of accidents: 65 and older.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 09/26/18 4:05:51 PM #48:	SunWuKung420 posted... Speeding is the #2 cause of accidents while distracted driving is #1. human error is the cause of just about every accident youve ever seen. we've already established this. catch the fuck up sunny. read the goddamn topic before you come in here spouting your bullshit --- Give him what he wants then take what you want. Nobody is more vulnerable than in their moment of victory when you know whatever you do he will never let you go <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:909494720] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>Speeding is the #2 cause of accidents while distracted driving is #1.</quote> human error is the cause of just about every accident youve ever seen. we've already established this. catch the fuck up sunny. read the goddamn topic before you come in here spouting your bullshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/26/18 4:27:15 PM #49:	Troll_Police_ posted... you come in here spouting your bullshit https://seriousaccidents.com/legal-advice/top-causes-of-car-accidents/ Distracted, speeding, drunk. https://www.after-car-accidents.com/car-accident-causes.html Speeding, drunk, distractions. Speeding is being negligent. Clearly, many people can't control themselves from treating the roadways like a NASCAR race, so stop making cars that can speed. Oh wait, less accidents and less speeding tickets means less profits. --- "Men have to restrain themselves around other men to avoid an outright punch out"- Kyuubi4269 9/17/18 PSN - SunWuKung420 <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:909495974] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>you come in here spouting your bullshit</quote> https://seriousaccidents.com/legal-advice/top-causes-of-car-accidents/ Distracted, speeding, drunk. https://www.after-car-accidents.com/car-accident-causes.html Speeding, drunk, distractions. Speeding is being negligent. Clearly, many people can't control themselves from treating the roadways like a NASCAR race, so stop making cars that can speed. Oh wait, less accidents and less speeding tickets means less profits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/26/18 5:00:13 PM #50:	Kyuubi4269 posted... stopping speeding doesn't stop accidents. It does, however, make them less likely and less severe when they do happen. Kyuubi4269 posted... Cars are geared so you can run a low rpm on the motorway so inherently they can significantly exceed the speed limit. So limit their speed some other way. Every new car on the road has a computer in it, and that computer can very easily do that. Heck, with GPS, you could even have the speed limit change on the fly, so people aren't able to do highway speeds in cities (though that would probably be more trouble than it's worth, given how dodgy GPS speed limit detection can be). Troll_Police_ posted... human error is the cause of just about every accident youve ever seen. we've already established this. While true, that's a pretty useless statement. If you want to decrease accidents, you need more specifically-targeted measures than "you should all stop making mistakes," and that means identifying specific risk factors. Speeding is one of the varieties of human error that contributes to accident rates. Designing cars to be unable to exceed local speed limits is one way to address that, thereby reducing accident rates. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:909497886] in People who... [t:77041754]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>stopping speeding doesn't stop accidents.</quote> It does, however, make them less likely and less severe when they do happen. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Cars are geared so you can run a low rpm on the motorway so inherently they can significantly exceed the speed limit.</quote> So limit their speed some other way. Every new car on the road has a computer in it, and that computer can very easily do that. Heck, with GPS, you could even have the speed limit change on the fly, so people aren't able to do highway speeds in cities (though that would probably be more trouble than it's worth, given how dodgy GPS speed limit detection can be). <cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote>human error is the cause of just about every accident youve ever seen. we've already established this.</quote> While true, that's a pretty useless statement. If you want to decrease accidents, you need more specifically-targeted measures than "you should all stop making mistakes," and that means identifying specific risk factors. Speeding is one of the varieties of human error that contributes to accident rates. Designing cars to be unable to exceed local speed limits is one way to address that, thereby reducing accident rates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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