Current Events > Joker audiences around the world WALK OUT after its glorification of INCELS!!

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mrduckbear
10/05/19 9:54:34 PM
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Does this film represent Incels? - Results (5 votes)
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Joker is continuing to start controversy on its opening weekend as fans STORMED OUT of theatres around the world stating the movie is too disturbing and "triggering" for INCELS despite the film smashing records as the R rated film is expected to earn 92 million weekend smashing Venom's record last year.

Not everyone is embracing the dark, ultra violent film that sees Joaquin Phoenix portray Arthur Fleck as the embattled clown transforms into Batman's most iconic nemesis

One fan wrote "literally just walked out of a screening of Joker. Way too terrifying to be there with all this going on the way the movie glamorizes gun violence and mental health issues"

There have been no reports of violence at screenings as police across the nation went on high alert and beefed up security at theatres with the exception of some disruptions at screenings.

In Huntington Beach, one theatre cancelled two screenings after a credible threat was made

In NYC police were notified after one male audience member sparked fears by SPITTING on others and CLAPPED LOUDLY when the Joker killed someone.

One witness said "S*** was scary"

Both Phoenix and direct Todd Phillips defended the film as Phoenix trusts the audience to know the difference between "right and wrong"

Phoenix portrays the character as a bullied man whoafter living on the outs of society snaps and takes rvenge on those who wronged him

Joker received a B+ cinemascore which was heralded by 25 and under audiences but received mixed responses from older audiences.

Is this film a representation of Incels?

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cjsdowg
10/05/19 10:00:14 PM
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This movie was not that gory what the hell are people so uptight about .
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008Zulu
10/05/19 10:01:52 PM
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Glamorizing mental health issues?

Isn't that kinda the point, to bring it to attention, and force people to confront it?
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10/05/19 10:06:58 PM
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so basically you're using alts to bypass the topic posting limit per day? fascinating
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SaccharineSmile
10/05/19 10:08:06 PM
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Are people so ingrain with PG13 rated Disney marvel comic book movies that when theres a R-Rated grounded comic book movie these same people are too shocked and confused of what they are watching?

I dont get it
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ThePrinceFish
10/05/19 10:09:12 PM
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SaccharineSmile posted...
Are people so ingrain with PG13 rated Disney marvel comic book movies that when theres a R-Rated grounded comic book movie these same people are too shocked and confused of what they are watching?

I dont get it

It's literally all media manufactured fear mongering.
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Lorenzo_2003
10/05/19 10:12:56 PM
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Joker and the people who who were rioting at the end, are the movie version of Antifa. Seriously, look at whats on their signs, listen to their complaints and observe how they use masks while committing violence. Even Joker, who claims he isnt political, embraces what he has become and the chaotic destruction he influenced, by the end of the movie. I dont think he is an incel, though.
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tremain07
10/05/19 10:14:45 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
In NYC police were notified after one male audience member sparked fears by SPITTING on others and CLAPPED LOUDLY when the Joker killed someone.

This guy is either in a cell or in the hospital,right?
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tamagucci
10/05/19 10:16:00 PM
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Starting to think this is all clever marketing.
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Kensaimage
10/05/19 10:16:42 PM
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Anybody who walked out is a straight up bitch
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Sega95
10/05/19 10:19:29 PM
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The mainstream media will make a fluff out of anything that can be sold to the majority, it just hypes up the movie that much more and the $$$ rolls in.

Anyway, those who have seen it, and don't have the mentality of a 5 year old, know that much much much worse has been released in theaters without the bat of an eye.
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Crepes
10/05/19 10:23:06 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Glamorizing mental health issues?

Isn't that kinda the point, to bring it to attention, and force people to confront it?


Seems a lot of people aren't comfortable doing this. Hopefully they are in the minority.
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Feline_Heart
10/05/19 10:24:26 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Glamorizing mental health issues?

Isn't that kinda the point, to bring it to attention, and force people to confront it?

Whats the point of confronting it if we all know nobody is going to do anything about it?
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Crepes
10/05/19 10:29:09 PM
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Sega95 posted...
The mainstream media will make a fluff out of anything that can be sold to the majority, it just hypes up the movie that much more and the $$$ rolls in.

Anyway, those who have seen it, and don't have the mentality of a 5 year old, know that much much much worse has been released in theaters without the bat of an eye.


Yeah. Strange how this film glamorizing gun violence is a step too far but films like John Wick get a free pass. Maybe the issue is that it asks questions of the audience... that question being "does our society somehow contribute to gun violence?" The answer to that is almost certainly yes and some people are uncomfortable with this.

It's a lot easier to say "oh he's a nut" or "he's evil" and not have to deal with the uncomfortable fact he might just be a normal person that's had a bad run.
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Vyrulisse
10/05/19 10:30:51 PM
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Wut? The point is you're not supposed to root for him...
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amzpeng
10/05/19 10:31:07 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
this is what happens when dudebros and woo girls expecting to go see the latest mindless capeshit action flick end up at a psychological thriller instead

lol
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Feline_Heart
10/05/19 10:34:47 PM
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Crepes posted...
Sega95 posted...
The mainstream media will make a fluff out of anything that can be sold to the majority, it just hypes up the movie that much more and the $$$ rolls in.

Anyway, those who have seen it, and don't have the mentality of a 5 year old, know that much much much worse has been released in theaters without the bat of an eye.


Yeah. Strange how this film glamorizing gun violence is a step too far but films like John Wick get a free pass. Maybe the issue is that it asks questions of the audience... that question being "does our society somehow contribute to gun violence?" The answer to that is almost certainly yes and some people are uncomfortable with this.

It's a lot easier to say "oh he's a nut" or "he's evil" and not have to deal with the uncomfortable fact he might just be a normal person that's had a bad run.

The John Wick series started because he wanted to avenge something he cared about. The joker is a mentally ill person who has reached his breaking point and is taking out his frustration on society. Its silly to just say they both have guns in them so either hate both of them or neither! The intent behind the violence and the implications are different
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cjsdowg
10/05/19 10:42:57 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
The John Wick series started because he wanted to avenge something he cared about. The joker is a mentally ill person who has reached his breaking point and is taking out his frustration on society. Its silly to just say they both have guns in them so either hate both of them or neither! The intent behind the violence and the implications are different


Objectively Vick is a lot worse. While the death of his dog was bad, he goes on killing spree killing people who had nothing to with that .
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Crepes
10/05/19 10:45:52 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
Crepes posted...
Sega95 posted...
The mainstream media will make a fluff out of anything that can be sold to the majority, it just hypes up the movie that much more and the $$$ rolls in.

Anyway, those who have seen it, and don't have the mentality of a 5 year old, know that much much much worse has been released in theaters without the bat of an eye.


Yeah. Strange how this film glamorizing gun violence is a step too far but films like John Wick get a free pass. Maybe the issue is that it asks questions of the audience... that question being "does our society somehow contribute to gun violence?" The answer to that is almost certainly yes and some people are uncomfortable with this.

It's a lot easier to say "oh he's a nut" or "he's evil" and not have to deal with the uncomfortable fact he might just be a normal person that's had a bad run.

The John Wick series started because he wanted to avenge something he cared about. The joker is a mentally ill person who has reached his breaking point and is taking out his frustration on society. Its silly to just say they both have guns in them so either hate both of them or neither! The intent behind the violence and the implications are different


I don't disagree with your post. I'm more arguing about how simplistic the tweets are. As you've pointed out the truth is often a lot more nuanced than 140 characters allows someone to convey. I'd still argue that John Wick glamorizes gun violence more than this film does but you are right the motives are different between the characters.
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Goats
10/05/19 10:46:12 PM
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tamagucci posted...
Starting to think this is all clever marketing.


For sure. Seems that way.
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Feline_Heart
10/05/19 10:48:04 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Feline_Heart posted...
The John Wick series started because he wanted to avenge something he cared about. The joker is a mentally ill person who has reached his breaking point and is taking out his frustration on society. Its silly to just say they both have guns in them so either hate both of them or neither! The intent behind the violence and the implications are different


Objectively Vick is a lot worse. While the death of his dog was bad, he goes on killing spree killing people who had nothing to with that .

Its not about who is a worse person. Its about which character has the most potential to have a negative impact on people. I doubt that people relate to John Wick lol. But there are lots of bozos out there who are angry and discontent with their status in life and wish that they could make other feel like them. Thats the reason why the media was freaking out over the Joker movie. Its actually a compliment to Joaquin Phoenix because it shows how compelling and authentic his performance was
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Sega95
10/05/19 10:51:26 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
Its not about who is a worse person. Its about which character has the most potential to have a negative impact on people.


Tony Montana and Dirk Diggler make Joker look like a 21 year old vegan in some pathetic street protest.
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Banjo2553
10/05/19 10:51:36 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
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Wut? The point is you're not supposed to root for him...

Yeah. Hope some people pointed that out for her. Like...congrats, you figured out the point of the movie.
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008Zulu
10/05/19 11:05:16 PM
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Feline_Heart posted...
008Zulu posted...
Glamorizing mental health issues?

Isn't that kinda the point, to bring it to attention, and force people to confront it?

Whats the point of confronting it if we all know nobody is going to do anything about it?

You'd be surprised what happens when enough people bitch about it.
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BlueBoy675
10/05/19 11:06:24 PM
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Its a goddamn comic book movie

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evil_zombie11
10/05/19 11:09:00 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
this is what happens when dudebros and woo girls expecting to go see the latest mindless capeshit action flick end up at a psychological thriller instead


It is honestly people SO USED to the marvel bs formula that they go into this comic book movie and their brains seriously can't handle what's going on.
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BlueBoy675
10/05/19 11:11:15 PM
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God forbid fiction challenges you. Then again, a lot of the best works of literature were considered controversial when they were first published.

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Garioshi
10/05/19 11:13:11 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Joker and the people who who were rioting at the end, are the movie version of Antifa. Seriously, look at whats on their signs, listen to their complaints and observe how they use masks while committing violence. Even Joker, who claims he isnt political, embraces what he has become and the chaotic destruction he influenced, by the end of the movie. I dont think he is an incel, though.

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EvenSpoonier
10/05/19 11:15:15 PM
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The film is a representation of what incels think they are. The truth would be more pathetic if it weren't so much creepier.
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tremain07
10/05/19 11:18:24 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
God forbid fiction challenges you. Then again, a lot of the best works of literature were considered controversial when they were first published.

Kinda reminds me of WANTED, the book at least, on the last page the main character just breaks the fourth wall and starts trash talking the reader for judging them when they're the ones enjoying his horrific actions
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Proofpyros
10/05/19 11:20:37 PM
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People are too fucking weak now
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Garioshi
10/05/19 11:38:28 PM
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Future_Trunks posted...
Garioshi posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Joker and the people who who were rioting at the end, are the movie version of Antifa. Seriously, look at whats on their signs, listen to their complaints and observe how they use masks while committing violence. Even Joker, who claims he isnt political, embraces what he has become and the chaotic destruction he influenced, by the end of the movie. I dont think he is an incel, though.

rkbDuZU


the YOU should be "missing" the point, not the other way around

From the point's frame of reference, "you" is missing the point
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Cocytus
10/05/19 11:47:22 PM
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I liked Todd Philips documentary about GG Allin.
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bobbysjoby2
10/05/19 11:51:36 PM
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*lives life far too invested in politics*
*reads reviews about movie glorifying incels*
*gets triggered*
*spends money on movie while still triggered*
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konokonohamaru
10/06/19 12:05:06 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
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Wut? The point is you're not supposed to root for him...


Actually the point is you're supposed to root for him until the shit gets too real... So, everything she's feeling is exactly what the movie intended

Except for one thing. Grown ups will ponder what it means that they could root for maniacal killer. Snowflakes will walk out of the theater
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