Board 8 > Scarlet Rates and Ranks User-Nominated Characters

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:16:02 PM
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Not only are we rating this time, but we're RANKING this time! In an example of pure procrastination, I will take on all nominations, from any medium. If you're unsure if I'm familiar with the character, please provide a link to a picture. Otherwise I will likely just give the character a 1/100 and move on. The only rule, really, is to nominate one character at a time until I've given your character due consideration.

Will there be prizes? Maybe. Probably not. I may decide on a criteria halfway through for a winner of this topic and then switch it up at the last minute. Who knows? I'm unpredictable.

The Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w1SHWek_P3Wkv2tvfz_6uotlTlAxuOGFae7jFTQagrk/edit?usp=sharing

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Snake5555555555
09/03/20 5:22:50 PM
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Ava (Ex Machina)

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LiquidOshawott
09/03/20 5:24:14 PM
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Sure

Ozymandias (Watchmen)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:27:07 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Ava (Ex Machina)
Rating: 75/100

The anchor of a fascinating movie, Ava is actually rather simplistic in her motivations and she never really feels like much more than a put-on. Is there depth to a budding serial killer? Probably. But without verbalizing her motivations and instead letting her play mind games, you ultimately are never given a chance to understand the reality of Ava. You're just handed smoke and mirrors and asked to sympathize. That doesn't make the movie any less amazing, but it does make Ava less of a character study and more of a moving piece in a tableau carefully crafted by a writer and director.

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MetalmindStats
09/03/20 5:27:25 PM
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Madeline (Celeste)

Just in case: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/celestegame/images/4/4a/Madeline.png/revision/latest?cb=20180516071349

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NBIceman
09/03/20 5:28:17 PM
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Saint Walker (DC Comics)

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Snake5555555555
09/03/20 5:28:49 PM
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Shotaro Kaneda (Akira)

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Hbthebattle
09/03/20 5:30:39 PM
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??? (Majora's Mask)
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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:31:12 PM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Sure

Ozymandias (Watchmen)
Rating: 86/100

Whether you're reading the words channeled through Moore's pen, or you're watching Matthew Goode and Jeremy Irons exemplify the character, there is a certain perfection to Ozymandias. The ultimate exemplar of the Columbia Pictures villain, Ozymandias' plan is rooted in a brilliant humanistic ideal twisted in the way Lex Luthor's noble goals are twisted by immorality. However, Ozymandias suffers not from immortality but amorality. The desires of Adrian Veidt are so tightly focused, like a laser, that any extraneous concerns simply mean nothing. In the cosmic scale, much like Doctor Manhattan, the affairs of a few are completely outweighed by the many. Ozymandias lacks a human component - different from the one Manhattan is missing, but somehow still quite similar.

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NFUN
09/03/20 5:31:50 PM
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Kaladin Stormblessed (The Stormlight Archive)


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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:36:18 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Madeline (Celeste)

Just in case: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/celestegame/images/4/4a/Madeline.png/revision/latest?cb=20180516071349
Rating: 52/100

Madeline is really just a totem, a vehicle with which one can explore the absolute doldrums of depression. I've never found that sort of presentation particularly illuminating. There is an artistic way to depict these sort of emotional hurdles, and it generally doesn't cater to or resonate with me at all. I can appreciate that it does for others, but I'm someone who really finds emotional vehicles to be nowhere near as satisfying and thought-consuming as other people think. An emotion is just a flavor of a single moment. I'd rather dig into a subject with some real divisiveness. Celeste is a fantastic game and I totally respect what it represents for some people, but it's a rather empty plate, and certainly not a very filling story. I'd rather focus on the art and the gameplay than the flimsy character.

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Eddv
09/03/20 5:37:25 PM
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Margo Hanson (The Magicians)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:38:42 PM
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NBIceman posted...
Saint Walker (DC Comics)
Rating: 76/100

Much like his Twi'lek counterparts, Saint Walker is an aesthetically unusual design that really captures the eye. As a representation of hope, I always liked the flimsiness of the blue ring, and its reliance on other Lanterns to really be of service. Ultimately, something that exists to serve others becomes easily manipulated or crushed by those who see the power of cooperation to simply be a hurdle. Saint Walker, I think, represents the naivety of hope, that convert blindness in faith, a born again incapable of seeing that to be reborn, one most relearn the world, and grow to a new adulthood. It's sort of sad, in the end.

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:40:44 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Shotaro Kaneda (Akira)
Rating: 67/100

I've found that a lot of the starring characters in anime films are really propped up by the narrative, and, on their own, are a little bit bland. It's the story that captures me in Akira, not the characters. Still, you can't make a narrative engrossing without at least competently crafted cast members, so I respect Shotaro for what he is.

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BetrayedTangy
09/03/20 5:42:39 PM
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Hal Jordan

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:42:44 PM
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Hbthebattle posted...
??? (Majora's Mask)
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Rating: 43/100

As a general rule, I hate toilet humor. Fecally-tangential puns, anything involving farts by and large, the entire concept of forcing someone to touch human excrement as a prank. So ??? really falls flat for me. And yet, there is some weird charm to the idea of the character and his part in the Bombers trading game. Majora's Mask is just a surreal dream of a game, and ??? fits into it perfectly.

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Steiner
09/03/20 5:42:48 PM
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"the fiend" bray wyatt

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:44:28 PM
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NFUN posted...
Kaladin Stormblessed (The Stormlight Archive)
Rating: 61/100

Having never read the series (I haven't picked up near as much fantasy as I should. I find myself reading, of course, tons of comics and when I'm not, I've been trending towards nonfiction history books more and more). However, this design is pretty slamming. It has that airy, devil-may-care blue mage style.

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NBIceman
09/03/20 5:45:30 PM
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Steiner posted...
"the fiend" bray wyatt
damn it steiner these are two different characters don't you pay any attention to the lore at all

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:46:14 PM
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Eddv posted...
Margo Hanson (The Magicians)
Rating: 40/100

I've never watched The Magicians. It's on SyFy, which is a pretty bad sign! Judging by her character design, she seems like she's sort of a bitchy Riverdale-style power queen? Something between the CW and Lana Padilla?

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LiquidOshawott
09/03/20 5:47:15 PM
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Edward Kenway (Black Flag, voice acted by the impenetrable Matt Ryan)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:48:58 PM
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BetrayedTangy posted...
Hal Jordan
Rating: 85/100

God, I'm all over the place with dear old Hal. In my tabletop RPG I'm hosting, I really found a stride with the character, and his run up until Rebirth plays out as this grand, decades-long Shakespearean tragedy. When you leave him as the Spectre and dive into the logistics of sharing a body with the avenging angel of Aztar, the story is just too juicy. The complications and complexities of that duality are fascinating, and the idea of Hal seeking redemption really resonates with me. Once Geoff Johns brings him back, however, he regains that Silver Age cleft-chin, chip-off-the-old-block cowboy diplomacy attitude again, and it keeps him from the upper echelons of comics. But, for a period of time, he was one of the craziest things going.

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Snake5555555555
09/03/20 5:49:01 PM
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Deadman (DC Comics)

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Fastbreak
09/03/20 5:49:25 PM
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Saul Goodman, Better Call Saul/ Breaking Bad

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Johnbobb
09/03/20 5:51:35 PM
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Half tempted to nominate Obrov but I'll refrain

Crazy Jane (Doom Patrol)

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Shonen_Bat
09/03/20 5:52:20 PM
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Monika (Doki Doki Literature Club)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:53:00 PM
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Steiner posted...
"the fiend" bray wyatt
Rating: 15/100

As you may be aware, The Fiend is a prime example of schlock that, when left to its own devices, festers into a swampy mire of befuddled storytelling. What drives the Fiend? Whatever is convenient that week. Does the Fiend have any emotional attachments? Not really. Not anymore. The complexities of the character were beaten out of him with nonsense promos and sweeping changes to the character that made him less and less interesting as time went on. Now a generic player whose only saving grace is lighting, there's nothing left about the character that is recognizable from his debut except a rather ugly, cheap-looking mask. At times, there were signs that someone might reach out and grasp at some character introspection and provide a little depth to the leather-deep facade of the Fiend, but ultimately that attempt was curtailed in favor of more and more gimmicked matches that focused less on resonating emotionally and more on capitalizing on something that was innovative 3 years ago.

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trdl23
09/03/20 5:53:58 PM
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Figaro (Barber of Seville / Marriage of Figaro)

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Jesse_Custer
09/03/20 5:54:14 PM
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Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls)
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Steiner
09/03/20 5:56:39 PM
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road runner

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:56:52 PM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Edward Kenway (Black Flag, voice acted by the impenetrable Matt Ryan)
Rating: 94/100

Is Edward Kenway a great character? There are a lot of very subjective criteria we can use to determine if he is. First, is he voiced by the incomparable Matt Ryan? If you answered yes, then we can safely move him into Box #2. Here the question becomes, "Is it enough that Matt Ryan has portrayed this character to make him great?" and we, naturally, say yes. It is. So we move to Box #4 and ask, "Could any extraneous piece of information about Edward Kenway diminish the fact that he is voiced by Matt Ryan?" The answer is, of course, no. It would take something truly horrendous to put a tarnish on the sheen of Matt Ryan. And so we lift Kenway into the upper echelons of video game characters, alongside icons such as the giant soda pop from Saints Row and Q*Bert.

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 5:59:04 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Deadman (DC Comics)
Rating: 80/100

Hey, I've been fortunate enough to play Deadman in my campaign over the last year, and I really enjoy the loose, acrobatic personality and the unfiltered mouth that seems to fear no consequences or retribution socially. Here's a guy who is slowly losing grasp of his social niceties thanks to his inability to experience the human repercussions of life. It's liberating in a lot of ways to have a character be both nonsense and no-nonsense at the same time. And the image of Boston Brand looping around his friends and enemies through the air, still holding onto a piece of his past, is strangely melancholy.

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:01:29 PM
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Fastbreak posted...
Saul Goodman, Better Call Saul/ Breaking Bad
Rating: 95/100

And this probably plays into the point that Better Call Saul is superior to Breaking Bad in every way. Saul is a guy I can root for, even in the mistakes he makes because there's still an ounce of intelligence in operation there. He's always the underdog. Saul's scrappy, dogged determination makes him the protagonist I need in the bleak sands of New Mexico, and his quick wit makes him a champion of the smiling con artist, a roguish character we all secretly want to see succeed. Of course, there is a tragedy at play in the life of our boy Jimmy, and that only further serves to make me root for him.

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Snake5555555555
09/03/20 6:03:00 PM
#35:


Interesting perspective on Deadman!

David Addison (Moonlighting)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:03:53 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
Half tempted to nominate Obrov but I'll refrain

Crazy Jane (Doom Patrol)
Rating: 93/100

A longtime Doom Patrol fan would watch the new television series and expect the intricate narrative of Crazy Jane to be painted with the broad strokes of a CW show. The fact of the matter is that Jane is carefully crafted in every aspect. The exploration of MPD through the filter of a superhero allows her individual personalities to shine through clearly, and then, once they are established in the minds of the audience through visual vibrant action sequences and bursts of dark comic brilliance, we can begin to dissect Jane and everything about her twisted life. It's awesome.

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:04:36 PM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
Monika (Doki Doki Literature Club)
I've never played it, but I'll give her design a 38/100 because I'm not big on that anime-influence presentation.

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:07:41 PM
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trdl23 posted...
Figaro (Barber of Seville / Marriage of Figaro)
Rating: 64/100

A prototypical clever liar of a character, there's a certain comedic genius in the creation of Figaro, the sort of character that stems back to the plays of ancient Rome and Greece and enraptures his audience with a quick wit. The real downside for me in Figaro is in the presentation. My experience with the character, of course, is operatic, and I think emotion is often lost for me in the medium. It might just be the generational gap that makes opera fall flat for me in general, and therefore I have a difficult time really relating to the characters trapped within.

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Eddv
09/03/20 6:08:10 PM
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Harold Godwinson (History)

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Drakeryn
09/03/20 6:08:18 PM
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I always like your takes but I feel we don't have enough fiction in common

gonna nom crime lord Kaz Brekker (Six of Crows) anyway



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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:09:58 PM
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Jesse_Custer posted...
Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls)
Rating: 29/100

Admittedly, I watched only two episodes of Gravity Falls and found its art style to be disturbingly ugly, like someone drew balloon animals to life and splashed one of 16 colors onto every body part. Still, I do recall this Illuminati Mr. Peanut being popping in and out of the scenery for purposes I assume that are made clear at some point other than the episodes I watched. I'm not a big cartoon guy, sorry. That's not my jam. You know what is my jam? Strawberry jam.

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Inviso
09/03/20 6:11:24 PM
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Juror #11 (12 Angry Men)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:13:46 PM
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Steiner posted...
road runner
Rating: 6/100

Yo fuck the fucking Road Runner, that little twiggy bitch-ass, punk-ass clearly unemployed dope who seems to have nothing better to do with his time than needle the mental instabilities of a coyote with obsessive-compulsive disorder. He's the Biff Tannen of the cartoon world - a bully, slow and stupid, and yet he overcomes Biff in all the wrong ways. Every Road Runner cartoon forces us to watch the villain succeed without flinching as the desperate Sisyphean struggle of Wile E. Coyote is turned into a joke. Hey - mental illness isn't funny. Someone should help rehabilitate the coyote. He needs someone to love him, to support him, to teach him alternative ways to express himself. What he doesn't need is this bird-brained dickface to constantly mock him and mistreat him and force him further and further into the spiraling rabbit hole of mental illness.

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Jesse_Custer
09/03/20 6:13:59 PM
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Yeah, I figured that wasnt your kind of character, but I was curious to see what you had to say anyway.

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:15:34 PM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Interesting perspective on Deadman!

David Addison (Moonlighting)
Rating: 53/100

You get to a point where, aside from Die Hard, it feels like everything Bruce Willis has ever done is phoned in. In fact, Moonlighting in particular seems to be where Willis developed the habit of thinking he's too cool for the material. Maybe that's why Willis never was handed a good script outside of Die Hard. After all, if you can't appreciate the work you're given, why should a good director with a good story risk ruining it with a guy who can't even show up to work? What I'm saying here, as politely as I can, is "Fuck Bruce Willis."

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Mega Mana
09/03/20 6:16:36 PM
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Johnny Lawrence (The Karate Kid; Cobra Kai)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:17:47 PM
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Eddv posted...
Harold Godwinson (History)
Rating: 36/100

Hey get a stronger claim to the throne, asshole. Maybe if you actually tried, we wouldn't be circling 1066 in our calendars as the day you fucked it up the absolute hardest of anyone in your family. Ever.

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NFUN
09/03/20 6:19:28 PM
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Miriam Godwinson (Alpha Centauri)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:19:38 PM
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Drakeryn posted...
I always like your takes but I feel we don't have enough fiction in common

gonna nom crime lord Kaz Brekker (Six of Crows) anyway

Rating: 68/100

Great design, but I have no knowledge of what Six of Crows even is! He looks like a Twilight-inspired version of the Shade, though, so I'll throw him so points.

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Great_Paul
09/03/20 6:19:56 PM
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Johnny (The Room)

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scarletspeed7
09/03/20 6:21:51 PM
#51:


Inviso posted...
Juror #11 (12 Angry Men)
Rating: 53/100

Hey, I would never speak ill of the great cast of actors in the original 12 Angry Men, but let's be honest - this guy is one of the most absolutely forgettable pieces of that story. And it's mainly for the fact that he's won over so quickly and therefore becomes the squire to our knight in shining armor, Juror #8. Otherwise, it's all about slaying the progressively larger, more racist dragons that charge into the discussion as the deliberations progress.

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