Poll of the Day > BTS lost the Grammy to a Lady Gaga/Ariana Grande collab

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Jen0125
03/15/21 10:49:18 AM
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It's an absolute joke

Meanwhile their personal live stream had almost as many viewers alone as the Grammys

https://www.newsweek.com/grammys-ratings-nearly-eclipsed-bts-live-video-1576153

I read on Twitter when the winner was announced and it wasn't BTS the viewers on the official Grammys pre-show livestream went from 1.1m to 500k immediately.


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Johnny Eagle
03/15/21 10:55:54 AM
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I like both songs, so I have no problem with that result

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Jen0125
03/15/21 10:56:43 AM
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Johnny Eagle posted...
I like both songs, so I have no problem with that result

I'm sure their song is fine but BTS is on a completely elevated level right now from Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande and they're completely reshaping an entire genre of music. It's just a poor decision.

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Blighboy
03/15/21 11:02:38 AM
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Who votes on the Grammy's?

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Final Fantasy2389
03/15/21 11:09:02 AM
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Wasn't really a grammy worthy song anyways.

BTS' last truly great music was back in 2015 imo. But I know I'm the minority with that opinion.

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Entity13
03/15/21 11:13:40 AM
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Blighboy posted...
Who votes on the Grammy's?

Corporate members of the music industry. You know, the folks who make money off making or promoting music.

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Blighboy
03/15/21 11:17:44 AM
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Entity13 posted...
Corporate members of the music industry. You know, the folks who make money off making or promoting music.
Well obviously this explains a lot

They're not going to promote competition if they can avoid it

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Jen0125
03/15/21 11:22:18 AM
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Blighboy posted...
Who votes on the Grammy's?

It's just a bunch of people in the industry that vote. That's why it's ripe for lobbying.

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Jen0125
03/15/21 11:23:02 AM
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Final Fantasy2389 posted...
Wasn't really a grammy worthy song anyways.

BTS' last truly great music was back in 2015 imo. But I know I'm the minority with that opinion.

Dynamite is not my favorite song, I agree. They've also been performing it non-stop.


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argonautweakend
03/15/21 11:26:01 AM
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the grammy awards have always been a joke though I feel like they have gotten better recently. But part of their joke-ness is just how music works. There are thousands of record labels, big and small, in just the US alone, producing tens of thousands of albums every single year. No committee could listen to them all and actually come up with nominees that make sense.

This has kind of always been the case for some genres, like Metal. Body Count winning a Grammy in 2021....
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papercup
03/15/21 11:33:38 AM
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What's a BTS?

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Jen0125
03/15/21 11:45:10 AM
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papercup posted...
What's a BTS?

A wonderful source of joy and eye candy

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Johnny Eagle
03/15/21 11:49:13 AM
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papercup posted...
What's a BTS?

In this case, it's a Korean boy band. This is the song referred to in the topic title: https://youtu.be/gdZLi9oWNZg

And for comparison, here's the song that TC is complaining it lost the Grammy to: https://youtu.be/AoAm4om0wTs

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Jen0125
03/15/21 11:54:56 AM
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https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1371456552289382400?s=19

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Jen0125
03/15/21 11:55:38 AM
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It's absolutely undeniable that BTS dominated the global charts in 2020.

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Blighboy
03/15/21 11:56:37 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
It's absolutely undeniable that BTS dominated the global charts in 2020.
But the words weren't in normal so it doesnt count

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CoorsLight
03/15/21 11:58:17 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
It's absolutely undeniable that BTS dominated the global charts in 2020.

Why have the awards at all if they should just go to the highest seller? I mean, that's basically what the Grammys are but at least they choose from five extremely mainstream artists or however many it is
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Jen0125
03/15/21 11:59:03 AM
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Blighboy posted...
But the words weren't in normal so it doesnt count

Except this time they were

The thing with Dynamite too is that BTS didn't write or produce it like they normally have a hand in for all their songs. They just selected it and recorded it pre-written and produced. It's not super indicative of their style but fits into their discography just fine.

And to clarify, I'm not "complaining" perse I just think BTS well deserved the win because they had their best year yet last year. No artist can touch what they did in 2020.

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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:00:07 PM
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CoorsLight posted...
Why have the awards at all if they should just go to the highest seller? I mean, that's basically what the Grammys are but at least they choose from five extremely mainstream artists or however many it is

It's not about being the "highest seller." It's more the show they had a huge impact on the music industry this year in many ways and they didn't even get recognition for it in the US. They have been winning awards non-stop in other countries but the US just won't let them fully breakthrough.

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03/15/21 12:00:13 PM
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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:01:16 PM
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And I don't hold stock in things like Grammys it's just disappointing for the guys because they have been dreaming of this forever. Hopefully this year they can have their final breakthrough in the Western market.

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streamofthesky
03/15/21 12:06:46 PM
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I don't think a single musician I listen to has ever won a Grammy.
It's like the most worthless award out of all the arts, winners are basically all politically chosen much like people complain about other awards such as for movies, but ramped up to 11.
You shouldn't sweat the snub, nor should BTS. Certain genres will simply never win it, and it's no real loss.
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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:08:49 PM
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I felt bad because they posted a video clip of them reacting to the announcement and the first thing RM said was "ah I told you." Like they were fully expecting to not win.

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TheOkHornedRat
03/15/21 12:12:36 PM
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Well, if they want it next year maybe they should try buying it like everyone else.

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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:12:54 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
Well, if they want it next year maybe they should try buying it like everyone else.

Lmao tru

It was their first year, they'll learn

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streamofthesky
03/15/21 12:13:56 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I felt bad because they posted a video clip of them reacting to the announcement and the first thing RM said was "ah I told you." Like they were fully expecting to not win.
Well yeah, exactly what I was saying.
They never even had a chance to begin with.
Eventually the illusion of the glitz and prestige of that worthless award will wear off from their eyes and they'll stop caring about it at all.
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papercup
03/15/21 12:14:12 PM
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Gotta say after listening to both songs I did like the Lady Gaga song more. So idk.

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Blighboy
03/15/21 12:19:54 PM
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papercup posted...
Gotta say after listening to both songs I did like the Lady Gaga song more. So idk.
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jkdarlow
03/15/21 12:20:16 PM
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Having listened to both i feel i could listen to the BTS song alot more than the other before getting tired of it, so i guess i prefer dynamite.
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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:25:45 PM
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papercup posted...
Gotta say after listening to both songs I did like the Lady Gaga song more. So idk.

There's nothing wrong with the song but is it special? Is it the symbol of a huge wave of success for an emerging international phenomenon? No. That's my only gripe. It's just more of the same like usual.

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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:27:36 PM
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Korean media is really pushing through this past couple years. Menari just got nominated for a ton of Oscars. So BTS was the first Korean group nominated for a Grammy and Steven Yeun is the first Korean nominated for Best Lead Actor.

I know these awards can be a joke due to selection (Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar) but they do mean a lot to the artists.

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OhhhJa
03/15/21 12:37:16 PM
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People still care about the grammy's?
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Blighboy
03/15/21 12:39:13 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Korean media is really pushing through this past couple years. Menari just got nominated for a ton of Oscars. So BTS was the first Korean group nominated for a Grammy and Steven Yeun is the first Korean nominated for Best Lead Actor.

I know these awards can be a joke due to selection (Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar) but they do mean a lot to the artists.
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TheOkHornedRat
03/15/21 12:41:24 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
People still care about the grammy's?

Same with Emmy's, Oscar's and Tony's. They arent awards, they are purchases.

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Jen0125
03/15/21 12:47:48 PM
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Blighboy posted...
https://i.imgur.com/Surm81t.gif

Lmao there's more to personal fulfillment than money

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TheOkHornedRat
03/15/21 12:56:43 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Lmao there's more to personal fulfillment than money

But in this instance, the award literally has a price tag.

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Blighboy
03/15/21 1:00:54 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Lmao there's more to personal fulfillment than money
I wouldn't know, I'm sucking on pennies for nutrients

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BlackScythe0
03/15/21 1:20:50 PM
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The Grammys are a fucking joke. I saw The Weeknd was boycotting them because he didn't get a single nomination, how the fuck did he not get a single nomination? Blinding Lights was the biggest song of the year.
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Cacciato
03/15/21 1:23:37 PM
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Blighboy posted...
I wouldn't know, I'm sucking on pennies for nutrients
Dont knock it. It cured my anemia.
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03/15/21 1:29:46 PM
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ArvTheGreat
03/15/21 1:29:59 PM
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Jen is Arvs winner

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party_animal07
03/15/21 1:32:44 PM
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*Remembers when Kendrick lost Best Rap Album of the Year to Macklemore*

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Jen0125
03/15/21 1:34:14 PM
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party_animal07 posted...
*Remembers when Kendrick lost Best Rap Album of the Year to Macklemore*

Yes! Lmao I mentioned that too. Even Macklemore was put off by winning.

DirtBasedSoap posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cringetopia/comments/m5hlyq/bts_fan_group_reacting_to_not_winning_anything_at

Jen is this you?

No, but I did feel disappointed I won't lie at all

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BADoglick
03/15/21 2:29:12 PM
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The grammys are a promotional jerkle, I wouldn't think much of it

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papercup
03/15/21 2:56:00 PM
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Blighboy posted...
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JigsawTDC
03/15/21 3:19:50 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Korean media is really pushing through this past couple years. Menari just got nominated for a ton of Oscars.

Minari is a U.S. production about U.S. citizens who are of Korean decent. So that's not really an example of Korean media breaking through, but Korean-Americans finally getting a spotlight in our own media. Another example of this is the book Crying in H Mart which comes out next month and that's been on my radar and I'm particularly stoked for it!
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Lokarin
03/15/21 3:25:17 PM
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BTS too young to win a Granny

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Jen0125
03/15/21 3:31:50 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
Minari is a U.S. production about U.S. citizens who are of Korean decent. So that's not really an example of Korean media breaking through, but Korean-Americans finally getting a spotlight in our own media. Another example of this is the book Crying in H Mart which comes out next month and that's been on my radar and I'm particularly stoked for it!

It's a US made film by Koreans and Korean Americans. It's heavily about Korean culture. The fact that Steven Yeun is nominated for an Oscar is massive.

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JigsawTDC
03/15/21 3:39:18 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
It's a US made film by Koreans and Korean Americans. It's heavily about Korean culture. The fact that Steven Yeun is nominated for an Oscar is massive.

Oh yeah, I'm not denying its importance in our media landscape. I was just being pendantic about Korean media breaking through vs. U.S. media with strong Korean representation.
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deoxxys
03/15/21 3:42:36 PM
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Never cared about the grammys, its just a big competition for a bunch of mostly garbage top 40s party music.

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