Poll of the Day > Wow, people will ask for anything on Gofundme nowadays, huh?

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lihlih
10/30/21 10:01:36 AM
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I don't know if I can link it because I don't know if it'll count as harassment. So I'll just post the gist of it.(since if I copy and paste what they said you can Google it and find it easily)

So this girl is going to go on a trip with her bestie in like a year to Disney World, but she doesn't have enough saved up. So she's needing 3k to boost her savings to be able to fund her trip and pay her bills while she's on this bestie vacation.

Is this kind of thing common nowadays? Like WTF, why would you even plan a trip if you can't afford it? I know people need time off and she wants to spend time with her bestie, but why can't she just plan a cheaper trip instead of asking for handouts? I'd be pretty embarrassed to ask for something like this.

Shit like this is why the boomers think millennials are entitled and all that bullshit.
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Sarcasthma
10/30/21 10:21:38 AM
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This isn't a new trend:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zackdangerbrown/potato-salad

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lihlih
10/30/21 10:34:15 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
This isn't a new trend:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zackdangerbrown/potato-salad


That's a different thing though. That was clearly a joke Kickstarter that blew up because stupid people wanted to part with their money. This person is serious about wanting to take peoples' money to go on a vacation. What gives me hope for humanity is that it has no backers yet, and I hope it stays that way.
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Sarcasthma
10/30/21 10:36:32 AM
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lihlih posted...
That was clearly a joke Kickstarter
I wouldn't be so sure, and I bet there were plenty of copycats.

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rexcrk
10/30/21 2:52:19 PM
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Maybe she should work some overtime.

I dont even (completely) mean that in like a snarky way.

If I had a trip I wanted to go on and knew I had a year to get the funds together, Id put in some crunch time at work and also do some scrimping until I had the money.

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Lokarin
10/30/21 3:10:21 PM
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Weirdly, this is the kinda inane stuff that gofundme is genuinely good for - when you just wanna do something but can't afford it

I mean, there's no harm in asking

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ComradeSeraphim
10/30/21 3:22:46 PM
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Why are you ripping on people for wanting a good life and a decent standard of living? Look, if employers arent going to pay a living wage, then naturally people are going to have to turn to alternate revenue sources in order to supplement their income and raise it to the levels that real living requires. Back when Ron Paul was running for President, he said that Libertarians and Conservatives didnt want to abolish warfare or charity, they just wanted it to be handled by the private sector rather than the public sector. I guess we can thank assholes like you for proving him wrong and demonstrating that abolishing welfare and charity entirely was in fact your real aim all along, and the claim that you only opposed public funding by taxation was in fact a lie. It wasnt really taxes you opposed. It was charity itself, both public and private.

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Mead
10/30/21 3:23:39 PM
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Why does this bother you is a question to consider

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ComradeSeraphim
10/30/21 3:25:29 PM
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rexcrk posted...
Maybe she should work some overtime.

I dont even (completely) mean that in like a snarky way.

If I had a trip I wanted to go on and knew I had a year to get the funds together, Id put in some crunch time at work and also do some scrimping until I had the money.
Many employers dont offer that kind of time off, even with a year of preparation.

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Fam_Fam
10/30/21 3:28:48 PM
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if people want to help others, what's the problem?
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ComradeSeraphim
10/30/21 3:31:50 PM
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In the Soviet Union, workers were given yearly vacations paid for with state subsidies. But I guess that would be too tyrannical for freedom loving Americans, right?

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ComradeSeraphim
10/30/21 3:36:08 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
if people want to help others, what's the problem?
Havent you heard? Libertarianism and Conservatism is all about selfishness and contempt for the poor. Thats why they advocate market-based solutions for everything. The market gives power to people with money. Read Ayn Rand.

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MetalGarurumon
10/30/21 4:00:02 PM
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i'm going to find this and donate to it
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lihlih
10/30/21 4:07:11 PM
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ComradeSeraphim posted...

Havent you heard? Libertarianism and Conservatism is all about selfishness and contempt for the poor. Thats why they advocate market-based solutions for everything. The market gives power to people with money. Read Ayn Rand.


WTF? Do you have any reading comprehension at all? I never said I was against charity, and this isn't charity, anyway. The definition of charity is:
1. an organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need.

2. the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need.

She's not in need, she's in want. She's trying to live above her means, which is stupid in itself, but trying to get other people to pay for her stupidity is just selfish. No idea why you think someone has to be a Libertarian or Conservative to think that living above your means is stupid, since I'm one of the biggest Bernbros on this site.
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Mead
10/30/21 4:14:10 PM
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lihlih posted...
WTF? Do you have any reading comprehension at all? I never said I was against charity, and this isn't charity, anyway. The definition of charity is:
1. an organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need.

2. the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need.

She's not in need, she's in want. She's trying to live above her means, which is stupid in itself, but trying to get other people to pay for her stupidity is just selfish. No idea why you think someone has to be a Libertarian or Conservative to think that living above your means is stupid, since I'm one of the biggest Bernbros on this site.

who twisted your mind this way? Did you do it on your own?

youre mad that a poor girl wants to have a vacation and do a fun thing, grow up

hell why dont you take some of your ten trillion dollars that you made from driving a cement truck and help her do something fun instead of pissing and crying about it here you could actually do something kind for a stranger instead of resorting to lazy pissed off asshole behavior

do you sneer when you see a childrens birthday party that you werent invited to? Cause you give off those vibes

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ComradeSeraphim
10/30/21 4:50:38 PM
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lihlih posted...
She's trying to live above her means, which is stupid in itself
Not if the society in which she lives artificially suppresses her means.

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lihlih
10/30/21 5:07:01 PM
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ComradeSeraphim posted...

Not if the society in which she lives artificially suppresses her means.


It's still economically stupid. Yeah, our society sucks because the government gets paid off by the corporations to fuck the little people over, but that doesn't mean she should be making economically stupid decisions.
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Mead
10/30/21 5:36:25 PM
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lihlih posted...
It's still economically stupid. Yeah, our society sucks because the government gets paid off by the corporations to fuck the little people over, but that doesn't mean she should be making economically stupid decisions.

how is she making stupid decisions, she is asking others to do something nice for her if they want to. No one has to

why are you so fixated and judgemental regarding the fiscal situation of a stranger that you dont know

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Ohioguy1980
10/30/21 6:34:59 PM
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GoFundMe is filled with tons of lazy beggars and scam postings. To top it off, you have complete morons donating to obvious bs postings which only makes things worse.

I have only posted on there twice and never received even one cent.

Once was to help a dying friends family pay some medical bills.

The other was to help a special needs coworker after he got robbed and scammed.

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lihlih
10/30/21 6:41:47 PM
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Ohioguy1980 posted...
GoFundMe is filled with tons of lazy beggars and scam postings. To top it off, you have complete morons donating to obvious bs postings which only makes things worse.

I have only posted on there twice and never received even one cent.

Once was to help a dying friends family pay some medical bills.

The other was to help a special needs coworker after he got robbed and scammed.



Did you share it on your social media?
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 6:54:51 PM
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i cant really find it in myself to get mad about someone asking for money when theyre being honest about what theyre using it for

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Kanatteru
10/30/21 6:56:19 PM
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lihlih posted...
She's trying to live above her means,

oh ok so this is just a "poors shouldn't have nice things" topic nvm then

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:03:53 PM
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Kanatteru posted...


oh ok so this is just a "poors shouldn't have nice things" topic nvm then


No, it's just basic economics. If you have to beg people to get something, then it's obviously too expensive for you. Plus, poor people aren't the only people that live above their means and fuck themselves over. I actually had an uncle that made shitloads of money but had to file bankruptcy because he was living above his means. Do you think that was a smart economic move on his part?
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:06:38 PM
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no, it's just [exactly what i described] [further arguing for exactly what i just described]

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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:08:56 PM
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it's not begging lol. it's a gofundme that's being transparent. if you don't want to donate then don't. what does your uncle have to do with anything whatsoever

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LinkPizza
10/30/21 7:10:23 PM
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I feel like lihlih doesnt understand humans that well
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lihlih
10/30/21 7:11:52 PM
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Kanatteru posted...
it's not begging lol. it's a gofundme that's being transparent. if you don't want to donate then don't. what does your uncle have to do with anything whatsoever


Because you said that when I said people shouldn't live above their means, that means poor people shouldn't have nice things. I even explained this in the post, so why don't you get some reading comprehension before trying to argue with someone?
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Mead
10/30/21 7:15:00 PM
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lihlih posted...
Because you said that when I said people shouldn't live above their means, that means poor people shouldn't have nice things. I even explained this in the post, so why don't you get some reading comprehension before trying to argue with someone?

I wonder if I can submit a screenshot of this post to some educational group looking to publish text on cognitive dissonance

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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:15:46 PM
#29:


if people are willing to donate to it then that's not above their means. so yeah you are taking issue with someone wanting to have something nice when they normally couldn't afford it and it doesn't affect you in the slightest. don't post if you don't want people to criticize it

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Mead
10/30/21 7:20:12 PM
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Dude just dont like your uncle if you dont like him. Or let it go and like him anyways. Dont be all weird about random strangers because of it. Its just money

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:20:51 PM
#31:


Kanatteru posted...
if people are willing to donate to it then that's not above their means. so yeah you are taking issue with someone wanting to have something nice when they normally couldn't afford it and it doesn't affect you in the slightest. don't post if you don't want people to criticize it


I mean, it's not my fault you know nothing about economics. If you have to ask money to get something, then that's above your means. If you can't even get this simple fact through your head, then you obviously shouldn't be trying to argue with people.
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Fam_Fam
10/30/21 7:22:27 PM
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lihlih posted...
I mean, it's not my fault you know nothing about economics. If you have to ask money to get something, then that's above your means. If you can't even get this simple fact through your head, then you obviously shouldn't be trying to argue with people.

getting things from others is part of your means. what you're saying is akin to saying that a stay at home parent should have literally nothing because they are not making money. anything they own personally is living beyond their means (and a negative thing?) since they aren't earning it themselves? Is that what you think?

also, what you're suggesting is that no one should take out loans for ANYTHING, because they need to ask for money in order to get what they want. This is both unrealistic in our society, and is also kind of ridiculous and idiotic.
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LinkPizza
10/30/21 7:23:18 PM
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lihlih posted...
If you can't even get this simple fact through your head, then you obviously shouldn't be trying to argue with people.

Ok there, pot
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:32:44 PM
#34:


lihlih posted...
If you have to ask money to get something, then that's above your means.

stop moving the goalposts. you keep calling this "begging" and "asking for money" when it's a voluntary, transparent donation that nobody is forced to contribute to. nobody is under any illusion where their money is going if they donate to it. this has nothing to do with economics, which i've probably studied more than you. you don't want a poor person to have a vacation, there is no way around that and every post you make only doubles down on it

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:35:31 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...


getting things from others is part of your means. what you're saying is akin to saying that a stay at home parent should have literally nothing because they are not making money. anything they own personally is living beyond their means (and a negative thing?) since they aren't earning it themselves? Is that what you think?

also, what you're suggesting is that no one should take out loans for ANYTHING, because they need to ask for money in order to get what they want. This is both unrealistic in our society, and is also kind of ridiculous and idiotic.


A stay at home parent usually has their SO make money for them, so I don't know what point you're trying to make here. As for loans, going into debt is incredibly stupid except for a home(even then, you have to make sure you're not house poor), and maybe vehicles(you really should be saving to buy them outright, but I know most people can't).
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:36:59 PM
#36:


lihlih posted...
A stay at home parent usually has their SO make money for them

so it's not above their means if their SO makes the money... but it is if friends and people online do... okay

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:37:02 PM
#37:


Kanatteru posted...


stop moving the goalposts. you keep calling this "begging" and "asking for money" when it's a voluntary, transparent donation that nobody is forced to contribute to. nobody is under any illusion where their money is going if they donate to it. this has nothing to do with economics, which i've probably studied more than you. you don't want a poor person to have a vacation, there is no way around that and every post you make only doubles down on it


Like seriously? If you create a page specifically to ask for money, then you're begging and asking for money. Like is your reading comprehension and logic this bad?
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:37:59 PM
#38:


why were you even looking for the page? were they asking you personally? or were you just looking for things to be offended about?

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Mead
10/30/21 7:39:08 PM
#39:


lihlih posted...
Like seriously? If you create a page specifically to ask for money, then you're begging and asking for money.

so what

why does it bother you

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:41:28 PM
#40:


Kanatteru posted...
why were you even looking for the page? were they asking you personally? or were you just looking for things to be offended about?


A FB friend shared the Gofundme page, asking to help this girl out. The weird part is, there's still no donations. So he's asking people to donate for a cause that even he doesn't believe in.
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:42:52 PM
#41:


lihlih posted...
A FB friend shared the Gofundme page, asking to help this girl out.

ok so you were not asked personally, you just chose to get upset about it. got it

lihlih posted...
The weird part is, there's still no donations. So he's asking people to donate for a cause that even he doesn't believe in.

or maybe he can't donate and is increasing visibility so that other people who may be able to will see it? you create the most bizarre narratives

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:47:21 PM
#42:


Kanatteru posted...


ok so you were not asked personally, you just chose to get upset about it. got it

or maybe he can't donate and is increasing visibility so that other people who may be able to will see it? you create the most bizarre narratives


It's pretty fucking ridiculous, so I decided to share it. I'm not upset over it, I just think this is just ridiculous as fuck.
I know he can donate, he's not rich, but he's definitely not in a tight situation with money or anything. I also know the dude and he would've at least thrown a fiver if he actually believed in the cause. You talk about creating the most bizarre narratives, but you're the one spouting nonsense while not knowing shit about the situation.
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:47:59 PM
#43:


lihlih posted...
I know he can donate

no you don't, you have no idea what his situation is

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MetalGarurumon
10/30/21 7:48:23 PM
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i bet the situation has good cinematogprahy
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Mead
10/30/21 7:48:55 PM
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Things TC wants us to understand

He is a special cement truck driver. It is special. It requires special information. You couldnt learn how to do it. You could try but you would quit or give up. You couldnt understand it the way he can.

He is paid incredibly generous amounts of money for his expertise ranging from over thirty thousand dollars up to well over $100,000 per year depending.

He doesnt hate his job so much that learning about some random stranger just asking for people to do a nice thing for them so they can have a nice memory that it just drives him wild with envious rage that someone might just get something and it being as simple as that.

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:52:38 PM
#46:


Kanatteru posted...


no you don't, you have no idea what his situation is


I know the dude, you don't. Like seriously, why are you such a hypocrite when you're the one coming up with these ridiculously stupid narratives?
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:54:30 PM
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it doesn't matter that i don't know him because i'm not making assumptions that he definitely can donate

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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:55:28 PM
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i'm pretty sure you weren't planning on donating either (despite being fairly well-off apparently) so why are you acting like you're above him lmao

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lihlih
10/30/21 7:57:41 PM
#49:


Kanatteru posted...
i'm pretty sure you weren't planning on donating either (despite being fairly well-off apparently) so why are you acting like you're above him lmao


Because I don't believe in the cause. Like seriously, you really need to go back to primary school and relearn reading comprehension skills and pick up some logic as well.
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Kanatteru
10/30/21 7:58:38 PM
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lol this guy thinks he's the only one in the world who can do his job as a cement truck driver lmfao

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